Camelia, the Perl 6 bug

IRC log for #padre, 2011-10-15

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08:16 El_Che szabgab: at the belgian perl workshop now
08:16 El_Che szabgab: I send a lightning talk yesterday at midnight to do your fosdem selling :)
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09:52 bowtie gm
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10:17 Hyppolit svn: r17000 | bowtie++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17000
10:17 Hyppolit remove yaml option, and refactor
10:17 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-Debug/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-Debug/lib/Padre/Plugin/Debug/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-Debug/l​ib/Padre/Plugin/Debug/FBP/
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15:21 Hyppolit svn: r17001 | bowtie++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17001
15:21 Hyppolit changed breakpoint margin marker to ... so as to co-exist with diff margin markers, and avoid information contamination due to colour washout of previous SMALLRECT.
15:21 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/
15:28 Hyppolit svn: r17002 | bowtie++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17002
15:28 Hyppolit POD and re-factoring
15:28 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-Debug/lib/Padre/Plugin/Debug/
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16:10 zenog hi #padre
16:10 zenog hope everyone has a nice weekend ...
16:12 El_Che belgian perl workshop here
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16:15 zenog_ ...
16:16 bowtie hi
16:18 zenog_ Ctrl-Tab crashes padre. Anyone can reproduce this?
16:18 zenog_ I mean Padre trunk
16:21 Hyppolit # 820 :  autocompletion triggered on ctrl+tab (assigned defect) by zenogantner  [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/820#comment:5 ]
16:21 bowtie zenog what should I expect Ctrl-Tab to do
16:21 zenog bowtie: Nothing. In particular not crashing Padre ;-)
16:22 bowtie zenog, I get nothing
16:22 zenog We maybe should let Ctrl-Tab do the same as Ctrl-PageDown - this is what Chrome does, and I like it.
16:23 zenog bowtie: OK, so it may be my current setup.
16:23 bowtie zenog, which is
16:25 zenog bowtie: Did you try with the latest Padre?
16:25 zenog I get Can't call method "menu_event" on an undefined value at /mnt/data/src/padre/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Main.pm line 6684.
16:25 bowtie zenog, yes 17002 and nothing happened
16:27 zenog hm
16:27 zenog I thought it may be a manually configured keyboard shortcut on my system, but it is not.
16:29 El_Che zenog: building Padre on ubuntu 11.10 x64 now
16:29 El_Che a lot of dependencies :)
16:29 El_Che cpanm is working as hell :)
16:30 El_Che like I was telling Leon Timmermans, they are internal, Adam maintains half of those :)
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16:34 zenog El_Che: still it is better to have most of them outside of Padre s.t. other people can use those functions as well, right?
16:34 El_Che here someone wants an IDE on the web :)
16:35 El_Che he's working with perl 6 grammars
16:35 El_Che "Wx is the past" :)
16:35 zenog El_Che: There are IDEs on the web.
16:35 El_Che not as nice as padre
16:35 zenog El_Che: http://rstudio.org/
16:36 zenog Not for Perl, but the nicest R "IDE" that I know of.
16:36 El_Che "Download RStudio"?
16:36 zenog El_Che: They have both classical versions and a JavaScript one.
16:37 zenog El_Che: Look at the screenshots.
16:38 El_Che zenog: crashes indeed
16:38 El_Che autch
16:38 El_Che 06:38:01 PM: Error: Image file is not of type 1.
16:39 zenog El_Che: Of course I do not want my IDE on the web. Local applications are very often _way_ superior.
16:39 zenog El_Che: Padre?
16:39 El_Che yes
16:42 zenog Ctrl-Tab?
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19:13 Hyppolit svn: r17003 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17003
19:13 Hyppolit Update the messages.pot file
19:13 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/share/locale/
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20:10 szabgab El_Che: so how was it at the BPW?
20:11 El_Che goed, people from linkfluence (paris) are making FOSDEM their team building activity
20:11 El_Che so they will be there with 10 persons
20:11 El_Che perl poeple
20:11 El_Che (I smell a business/teaching opportunity for you there :)  )
20:12 szabgab indeed
20:12 El_Che paris is only 1,5h from brussels by train
20:15 El_Che the core crew from last year will be there like wendy, lies, eric, dirk, etc
20:15 El_Che so it looks good
20:17 szabgab that's nice
20:17 szabgab someone needs to do the leading and the paperwork
20:18 El_Che I fear it may end up being me (with the limited time i have :( )
20:18 El_Che is it a lot?
20:18 szabgab not really
20:18 szabgab I already have the text from last year
20:18 zenog FOSDEM was great last year. I hope to make it there again, but I do not know yet whether it will be possible ...
20:19 szabgab to ask for a dev-room and to ask for a desk
20:19 El_Che zenog: the more the jollier, but I understand that it's not obvious for you guys
20:19 szabgab the harder part is to get people to submit talks
20:19 szabgab and to try to get the to submit talks to the other dev rooms as well
20:19 El_Che I thought of kind of group effort on that part on the belgian pm lists
20:19 El_Che I dunno if that is realistic
20:20 El_Che eric doubts if the booth has a lot of effect and was thinking more of concentrating on the dev room
20:20 szabgab they are separate things
20:21 szabgab we can't really measure the effectiveness of the booth but we can sell books as we did last year
20:21 szabgab that's good and I think the opportunity to talk to people is also good
20:22 szabgab there could be a questionary with 34 questions to try to find out what people think
20:22 szabgab and/or to sign them up to a mailing list
20:23 szabgab though people will be afraid to give their e-mail address
20:23 El_Che thing is that not a lot of people are ready to do that more "aggressive" marketing
20:23 El_Che as in not comfortable
20:23 El_Che I am thinking on the volunteers
20:24 El_Che Dirk got talks for today, so fosdem should certainly be possible
20:25 El_Che of course you have more perl contacts than I do
20:28 szabgab first get the room and once you got it then start asking for talks on the near-by pm group lists
20:29 szabgab you don't need to "aggressive" at a booth, that's bad anyway
20:29 El_Che by aggressive I meant more than sitting and be nice
20:29 szabgab but you need to be able to reach out
20:29 El_Che things like questionnaires
20:29 El_Che getting up and talking to unknown people
20:29 szabgab yeah it is frightening
20:29 El_Che you are not afraid of it (nor I), but not an evident thing for a lot of people
20:29 szabgab but when you have something to say or a table to lean on it is easier
20:30 szabgab they get used to it
20:30 szabgab some of them at least
20:30 szabgab and yes, it is not for everyone
20:30 szabgab just as not everyone can create a nice looking web site
20:31 El_Che anyway, can you mail me what you have for the dev room paperwork of last year? (is there a deadline for the booth as well?)
20:31 mike fuuuuuuuuuuuuck, why does padre remove all my blank lines when I save a file? :|
20:31 El_Che if we get that rolling, we have some time for the rest
20:32 szabgab El_Che: looking it up now
20:32 El_Che I'll make some time on monday to complete and send it
20:32 szabgab El_Che: https://www.socialtext.net​/perl5/events_2011_fosdem
20:33 El_Che I think I know someone from the fosdem team (a debian dev) that is perl friendly :)
20:33 szabgab oh that's only the booth request I think
20:37 szabgab El_Che: e-mail sent to you
20:37 El_Che thx
20:37 szabgab and I am sure you have the original call for devrooms mail
20:37 szabgab I sent to the brussels.pm list
20:38 El_Che ok
20:38 zenog mike: which version?
20:38 El_Che I'll start by reserving a room and think about how to do it to make it a team effort
20:38 El_Che good for the pm-s
20:39 El_Che and for the relation between the 2 belgian pm-s
20:39 szabgab yes
20:39 mike zenog: Perl Application Development and Refactoring Environment 0.90
20:39 El_Che I'll stick to one day
20:39 szabgab they could print a flyer together inviting people to their meetings
20:39 szabgab and hand it out at the booth
20:40 El_Che eric is in both pms, so that's good
20:40 zenog mike: It does not do it for me, but I run trunk.
20:40 zenog mike: fresh installation?
20:40 mike No, I'd upgraded
20:40 szabgab I'd recommed to keep the near-by mailing lists updated )including NL.pm)
20:40 szabgab so for example send a mail after you submitted the request for a dev-room
20:41 mike I could install a new perl with threading if you really need me to
20:41 El_Che yes, NL and FR are certainly coming
20:41 El_Che leon was there last year
20:41 szabgab just to let them know and remind them about the event
20:41 El_Che and NL has booking.com
20:41 zenog mike: So you have several blank lines in your file, and they get removed upon saving?
20:41 zenog mike: like, a blank line between two non-blank ones?
20:42 mike Yes.
20:42 szabgab El_Che: but I have to go now, I am on vacation in Budapest and tomorrow we have a long walking tour
20:42 zenog mike: hm
20:43 szabgab El_Che:  btw has anyone sent and invitation to the Perl Weekly to the belgian pm groups? if not yet would you do that?
20:44 El_Che szabgab: I haven't see one yet
20:44 El_Che ok, explain me later what's needed
20:44 El_Che have fun
20:46 zenog mike: Yo you have any plugins activated?
20:47 mike no
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21:40 zenog I do not run Padre 0.90, can anyone else reproduce mike's problem?
21:40 zenog mike, would you write a ticket?
21:41 mike I would honestly rather not, actually
21:44 zenog mike: Why not? Too complicated? Or not so important?
21:45 mike I'm busy at the moment
21:46 zenog OK. I know that, had two deadlines this weekend.
21:46 zenog cu
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