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IRC log for #padre, 2011-10-19

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02:40 Hyppolit svn: r17075 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17075
02:40 Hyppolit Changing {style} to {theme} to match the move in class
02:40 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/
02:42 Hyppolit svn: r17076 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17076
02:42 Hyppolit ->style to ->theme to match the previous commit
02:42 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/
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04:58 Hyppolit svn: r17077 | dolmen++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17077
04:58 Hyppolit Fix english
04:58 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Dialog/
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05:05 Hyppolit svn: r17078 | dolmen++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17078
05:05 Hyppolit Fix POD
05:05 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Dialog/
05:05 Alias_ :)
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05:25 Hyppolit svn: r17079 | dolmen++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17079
05:25 Hyppolit Update french translation.
05:25 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/share/locale/
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06:28 Hyppolit svn: r17080 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17080
06:28 Hyppolit Fix 04_config.t configuration parameter number typo. azawawi--
06:28 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/t/
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06:46 Hyppolit svn: r17081 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17081
06:46 Hyppolit Convert file to UNIX EOL
06:46 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/
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06:54 azawawi Alias: ping
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07:13 Hyppolit svn: r17082 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17082
07:13 Hyppolit Update the messages.pot file
07:13 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/share/locale/
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07:38 azawawi any idea what's a faster solution for LWP requests for HTTPS?
07:38 azawawi s/LWP/HTTP/
07:40 gyles19 eh?
07:40 azawawi LWP::UserAgent + HTTPS is slow per GET transaction
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07:44 gyles19 Well, it would be, with the encryption and all.  Persistent connection, perhaps?
07:44 gyles19 Set it up once and hang on to the connection instead of rebuilding it for each GET.
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07:47 azawawi https://metacpan.org/search/autocomplete?q=$query
07:49 gyles19 http://httpd.apache.org/docs​/2.2/mod/core.html#keepalive
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07:58 gyles19 I haven't had to think about this in years.  LWP::UserAgent does mention support for keep_alive as a very optional option on the new() method.  That might suffice to reduce the SSL overhead if you're doing multiple GET calls.  I doubt it would help if you're only going to be doing one.
07:59 azawawi autocomplete style http gets
08:00 gyles19 Haven't used that before.
08:00 azawawi one thing i dont understand why metacpan.org choose HTTPS by default
08:01 azawawi i know it is more secure and everything but  why... :)
08:04 gyles19 Well, it looks like metacpan is being hosted on the same hardware ad github.  Perhaps they're using SSL/HTTPS just as an additional layer of "yes, we are who you think we are"
08:05 azawawi reduces performance period.
08:05 azawawi no real added benefit
08:06 azawawi aha caught it
08:06 azawawi metacpan LWP::UserAgent SSL are so on win32
08:06 azawawi dead slow
08:06 gyles19 Looks like, from the sources, they're using it for authentication.
08:10 Hyppolit svn: r17083 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17083
08:10 Hyppolit Added LWP::Protocol::https requires to Padre. LWP::Request needs that to make HTTPS requests. It seems to be installed by default on Strawberry but is slow by the way and on other platforms you need to install it.
08:10 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/
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08:11 bowtie gm
08:11 Hyppolit svn: r17084 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17084
08:11 Hyppolit CPAN2 panel is dwell based now
08:11 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/
08:11 azawawi bowtie: gm
08:12 bowtie azawawi, hi, is CPAN2 ready for testing yet?
08:12 azawawi yup
08:12 azawawi cpan .
08:12 azawawi feature_cpan_explorer
08:14 gyles19 Well, it's already on my system.  Dunno if it was there from the ubuntu package to begin with... I've polluted my server with a ton cpan stuff.
08:14 azawawi perlbrew
08:15 azawawi my guess it is pure perl implemented on win32 and linked to an ssl lib on linux
08:15 gyles19 Heh.  I'm root, when I want to be.
08:15 azawawi the speed difference is big
08:20 gyles19 My ubuntu seems to have perl wrappers around OpenSSL.    Net::SSLeay
08:24 gyles19 So, if you don't like the speed penalty required by the https in use at metacpan.org, why not revert back to vanilla cpan?  Are you relying upon the api at metacpan?
08:24 bowtie azawawi, cpan explorer is displaying cpan package names, what else is it supposed to do?
08:25 gyles19 Oddly, Net::SSLeay doesn't do HTTP/1.1, so using it with keep_alive would not work. Phoo.
08:26 azawawi later it will install stuff
08:26 azawawi and insert SYNOPSIS
08:26 azawawi im working on it :)
08:27 azawawi basically search for package name, read its synopsis and insert it into your current editor  :)
08:27 gyles19 Ack. bedtime.
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08:28 azawawi bowtie: do you find it useful?
08:29 bowtie azawawi, is this to assist Padre with missing CPAN modules, or to help find a CPAN module, if so how will you seed the good from the bad?
08:31 azawawi bowtie: aha
08:31 azawawi bowtie: metacpan +1
08:32 azawawi bowtie: they have a working favorite system
08:32 bowtie azawawi, or just which are current and worth looking at, or which have reached v1.0 status and thus have a stable api?
08:32 bowtie azawawi, sorry, but some one had to ask :)
08:33 azawawi interesting
08:33 azawawi keep going
08:33 bowtie azawawi, is that the authors favourite,
08:34 azawawi https://github.com/CPAN-API/​cpan-api/wiki/Beta-API-docs
08:35 bowtie I don't use metacpan as you can not copy and past sample code with out entity issues, so if you display there pages are you going to clean them up?
08:36 azawawi aha
08:36 bowtie I appreciate that metacpan will be the future, but is it now
08:36 azawawi that's what i created cpan explorer for...
08:36 azawawi basically search for module, install and get the synopsis
08:37 azawawi since that's usually the usecase
08:37 azawawi of trying whether a module works for you or not
08:38 azawawi aha
08:38 azawawi https://github.com/CPAN-API/cpan-api/issues/97
08:39 bowtie don't forget that we also need to delete the module and it's unwanted dependencies if the module dose not work for you before you try another
08:40 azawawi App::pmuninstall
08:40 azawawi first things first...
08:40 azawawi find out why code folding is ****** :)
08:43 bowtie azawawi, while you are looking at code folding, can you consider, having code folding margin and debug together, with diff and syntax together
08:45 bowtie hence margin 1, line numbers; 2 fold & debug; 3 diff & syntax; that leaves 4 and 5, suggest that at least on is assigned to plugins
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08:51 azawawi code folding theming
08:51 azawawi also
08:54 bowtie azawawi, code folding will make a lot of people happy
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09:24 Hyppolit svn: r17085 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17085
09:24 Hyppolit Fix code folding when a new document is created. Basically you enable folding after any setLexer
09:24 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/
09:31 bowtie azawawi++
09:31 Hyppolit svn: r17086 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17086
09:31 Hyppolit Code folding now works again! :)
09:31 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/
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09:33 bowtie azawawi, O, my last comment about margins was based on my memory, that code folding did not have vertical lines
09:35 azawawi code folding style now
09:35 * azawawi debugs scintilla margin drawing code!
09:41 azawawi basically refactoring stuff around in Padre::Wx::Editor is a very bad idea
09:41 azawawi since some stuff really depend on the previous method call result
09:41 azawawi Alias will eventually standardize it :)
09:46 Hyppolit # 1291 :  Code folding icons missing (closed defect) by azawawi  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1291#comment:5 ]
09:46 Hyppolit svn: r17087 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17087
09:46 Hyppolit Updated Changes
09:46 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/
09:53 submersible_toaster Skip strikes again
09:54 azawawi hehe
09:54 azawawi we should write a test for it
09:55 azawawi fixing code folding does not style now...
10:08 azawawi eureka!
10:08 azawawi $editor->SetFoldMarginColour(1, Wx::Colour->new(0x93,0xa1,0xa1));     $editor->SetFoldMarginHiColour(1, Wx::Colour->new(0x93,0xa1,0xa1));
10:08 waxhead we have the code folding icons back?
10:08 azawawi yup
10:08 azawawi promised you an awesome release :)
10:09 waxhead azawawi++
10:09 azawawi submersible_toaster: ping
10:09 waxhead yeah, this one is going to be the most impressive one visually and capability wise in a long time!
10:09 azawawi we have also *experimental* metacpan explorer :)
10:09 waxhead I have to say, I'm not enjoying the new ubuntu at all...
10:09 azawawi but that's for another day :)
10:10 waxhead too much is broken... networking for a start
10:10 azawawi i think i'll move to mint
10:10 waxhead azawawi, yeah I caught something about that in a back log
10:10 waxhead I should write a blog about what's been going on to get interest up.....
10:10 waxhead :)
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10:28 submersible_toaster azawawi: pong
10:28 azawawi submersible_toaster: SCI_STYLEGETBACK is not implemented in Wx::Scintilla...
10:29 submersible_toaster where is that used?
10:29 azawawi submersible_toaster: SetFoldMarginColour in your-theme.txt
10:29 azawawi http://www.scintilla.org/Scintill​aDoc.html#SCI_SETFOLDMARGINCOLOUR
10:29 azawawi i was thinking after applying styles i could drop # Colour those margins using the current theme! my $style_default_bkg = $self->StyleGetBackground(Wx​::Scintilla::STYLE_DEFAULT); $self->SetFoldMarginColour( 1, $style_default_bkg ); $self->SetFoldMarginHiColour( 1, $style_default_bkg );
10:30 azawawi sorry for the noise :)
10:30 azawawi and StyleGetBackground is not implemented!
10:30 azawawi :)
10:30 submersible_toaster ok - i will try to look tomorrow
10:30 * azawawi hits his head
10:31 fuogo guys is there any way to edit files remote over SSH?
10:49 bowtie sshfs
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11:04 Hyppolit svn: r17088 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17088
11:04 Hyppolit Code folding margin is now somewhat theme-able! :)
11:04 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/ trunk/Padre/share/themes/
11:10 waxhead hmmm... I'm not seeing the icons for the code folding...
11:11 azawawi svn up
11:12 waxhead Oh.. my bad, you get them in a class, not in a script...
11:12 waxhead why is that?
11:13 Hyppolit svn: r17089 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17089
11:13 Hyppolit Update the messages.pot file
11:13 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/share/locale/
11:13 waxhead wow.. i have to say Padre is feeling rather snappy!
11:14 waxhead Padre is looking rather awesome full stop...
11:15 bowtie azawawi, when you change the theme/style in preferences the tail of the theme name is being crouped
11:18 Hyppolit svn: r17090 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17090
11:18 Hyppolit Fix all themes for code folding
11:18 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/share/themes/
11:28 azawawi bowtie: huh? :)
11:29 bowtie azawawi, if you look in pref ant select the theme with longest name, it gets croped in display
11:30 azawawi solarized light?
11:30 azawawi no worries no cropping here in ubuntu 11.04...
11:38 bowtie azawawi, just for you http://padre.perlide.org/trac/attac​hment/wiki/SandBox/editor_style.png
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11:40 daxim http://stackoverflow.com/questions/781213​6/is-there-a-way-to-uniquely-style-items-​in-the-wxchoice-widget-in-wxperl-wxwidge
11:45 azawawi daxim: best thing to ask @ #wxwidgets
11:45 azawawi daxim: if it get wxItemX in any method or constructor, you can probably style it
11:45 azawawi daxim: otherwise i dont think so
12:02 * azawawi is prototyping better code folding margin theme support :)
12:04 daxim I'm not asking the question, just relaying it for more eyes
12:10 Hyppolit svn: r17091 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17091
12:10 Hyppolit Proper code folding marker theming for Solarized dark and light
12:10 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/ trunk/Padre/share/themes/
12:10 azawawi daxim: cool :)
12:10 azawawi bingo! code folding are theme-able :)
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12:20 Hyppolit svn: r17092 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17092
12:20 Hyppolit The rest of the themes code folding fix :)
12:20 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/share/themes/
12:33 Hyppolit svn: r17093 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17093
12:33 Hyppolit Updated Changes
12:33 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/
12:36 azawawi Alias: i found why HTTPS support is slow... There is a nasty command line being executed in the background... and it shows as a  black popup under padre.exe
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13:21 Hyppolit # 808 :  warning in Makefile.PL on perl 5.11.3 (closed defect) by azawawi  [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/808#comment:1 ]
13:28 Hyppolit # 81 :  diffs! (new enhancement) by azawawi  [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/81#comment:4 ]
13:32 Hyppolit # 63 :  Code browser (new enhancement) by azawawi  [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/63#comment:4 ]
13:33 Hyppolit # 506 :  can't run program in 'regular' dos window - VISTA (closed defect) by azawawi  [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/506#comment:3 ]
13:34 Hyppolit # 498 :  Style  wxSTC_PL_DEFAULT affects too many things (new defect) by azawawi  [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/498#comment:1 ]
13:36 Hyppolit # 1047 :  Outline becomes empty after fast file switching (new defect) by azawawi  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1047#comment:4 ]
13:39 Hyppolit # 184 :  GUI for find (reopened enhancement) by azawawi  [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/184#comment:4 ]
13:41 Hyppolit # 309 :  Wx::StaticText does not support style characteristics (closed enhancement) by azawawi  [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/309#comment:1 ]
13:41 Hyppolit svn: r17094 | bowtie++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17094
13:41 Hyppolit we now have panel integration thanks azawawi ++
13:41 Hyppolit see POD for Main about Debug::Client additional method to support v n
13:41 Hyppolit DebugOutput now shows current level values
13:41 Hyppolit another step still a mess though
13:41 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-Debug/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-Debug/lib/Padre/Plugin/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-Debug/lib/Padre/Plugin/Debug/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-Debug/l​ib/Padre/Plugin/Debug/FBP/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-Debug/l​ib/Padre/Plugin/Debug/Wx/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-Debug/scripts/
13:43 Hyppolit # 618 :  Minimalistic syntax highlighter? (closed enhancement) by azawawi  [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/618#comment:2 ]
13:44 bowtie szabgab, ping
13:49 Hyppolit # 312 :  Max one outline job per document at a time (new defect) by azawawi  [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/312#comment:4 ]
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13:58 Hyppolit # 912 :  Makefile.PL must remove obsolete files from previous versions (Win32 launcher) (closed defect) by azawawi  [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/912#comment:2 ]
14:07 Hyppolit # 315 :  Icons on the Outline window to filter types (new enhancement) by azawawi  [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/315#comment:2 ]
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14:08 azawawi sugar: ping
14:08 azawawi submersible_toaster: ping
14:08 azawawi :)
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14:15 sugar azawawi: pong
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14:16 azawawi sugar: please review my latest changes to solarized light and dark (regarding the cold folding margin markers)
14:17 sugar azawawi: ok, i'll do it but in evening (about 9 pm, my timezone is +4)
14:18 azawawi cool
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15:26 Hyppolit svn: r17095 | bowtie++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17095
15:26 Hyppolit relocate icons for left panel
15:26 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-Debug/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-Debug/l​ib/Padre/Plugin/Debug/FBP/
15:27 rindolf Hi all.
15:52 Hyppolit svn: r17096 | bowtie++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17096
15:52 Hyppolit update ConfigDB to clean DebugBreakpoints
15:52 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-Cookbook/lib/​Padre/Plugin/Cookbook/Recipe04/
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17:49 azawawi hi
17:52 Hyppolit svn: r17097 | bowtie++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17097
17:52 Hyppolit adjust breakpoint column names and order
17:52 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-Debug/lib/Padre/Plugin/Debug/
18:00 rindolf azawawi: hi.
18:01 rindolf azawawi: what's up?
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18:04 azawawi rindolf: great!
18:04 Hyppolit svn: r17098 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17098
18:04 Hyppolit CPAN Explorer is accessible from the window menu now
18:04 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/FBP/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Menu/
18:04 azawawi rindolf: how r u?
18:04 azawawi rindolf: it is getting colder
18:05 rindolf azawawi: well, I worked a little on XML-LibXSLT.
18:05 rindolf azawawi: yes, it is getting colder.
18:05 rindolf azawawi: at least here in Tel Aviv.
18:07 PerlJam I think it's getting colder in most of the northern hemisphere  :)
18:09 Hyppolit svn: r17099 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17099
18:09 Hyppolit View menu shuffling and make sure CPAN explorer action is only created when the feature is enabled
18:09 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Menu/
18:10 azawawi PerlJam: hi there... what's up?
18:11 PerlJam azawawi: nothing much ... at home taking care of a sick kid right now.  Though he's not so sick at the moment (playing Wii sports)
18:12 Hyppolit svn: r17100 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17100
18:12 Hyppolit More Window menu shuffling.. alphabetical order... :)
18:12 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Menu/
18:13 azawawi is that Wii good for the health or not?
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18:25 rindolf Hi all.
18:28 rindolf azawawi: here?
18:28 azawawi yeah
18:36 azawawi waxhead: ping!
18:36 azawawi we need a release soon
18:36 azawawi 0.92 is a very big release for Padre
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18:50 mikiel Hello
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19:13 Hyppolit svn: r17101 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17101
19:13 Hyppolit Update the messages.pot file
19:13 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/share/locale/
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19:32 Hyppolit svn: r17102 | bowtie++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17102
19:32 Hyppolit Add DebugVariables Panel to left and some tweaks and tidy on the way
19:32 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-Debug/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-Debug/lib/Padre/Plugin/Debug/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-Debug/l​ib/Padre/Plugin/Debug/FBP/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-Debug/l​ib/Padre/Plugin/Debug/Wx/
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20:01 azawawi Alias: ping
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21:31 Hyppolit svn: r17103 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17103
21:31 Hyppolit Added a non-background preview html window in CPAN explorer and dummy recent and synopsis buttons. The synopsis button inserts SYNOPSIS section into a new Perl 5 document. Enjoy. The recent will eventually display CPAN recent uploads and will be enabled by default when you start CPAN explorer. Enjoy :)
21:31 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/FBP/
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21:34 Hyppolit svn: r17104 | bowtie++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17104
21:34 Hyppolit Refractor package names and locations, makes more sense
21:34 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-Debug/lib/Padre/Plugin/Debug/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-Debug/li​b/Padre/Plugin/Debug/Panel/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-Debug/l​ib/Padre/Plugin/Debug/Wx/
21:43 Hyppolit svn: r17105 | bowtie++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17105
21:43 Hyppolit opps missed one
21:43 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-Debug/lib/Padre/Plugin/Debug/
21:54 * azawawi good night... thanks & :)
22:06 Alias Did azawawi release Wx::Scintilla?
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22:10 bowtie Alias, current release is 0.32
22:11 bowtie is there a newer version in trunk?
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23:13 Hyppolit svn: r17106 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17106
23:13 Hyppolit Update the messages.pot file
23:13 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/share/locale/
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