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IRC log for #padre, 2011-10-24

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03:13 Hyppolit svn: r17142 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17142
03:13 Hyppolit Update the messages.pot file
03:13 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/share/locale/
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05:56 gyles19 Sigh.  Once again, I manage to make Padre dump core within 5 minutes of starting work on a project.  This is getting really, really old.
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06:07 Alias_ How
06:08 gyles19 Something in autocompleate segfaulted.
06:08 gyles19 I got so irked I didn't rtry to debug it, I just went back to vim.
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07:17 Hyppolit svn: r17143 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17143
07:17 Hyppolit Some layout changes to the About dialog
07:17 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/
07:18 Alias_ If someone sees azawawi tell him to do the constants
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07:33 Hyppolit svn: r17144 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17144
07:33 Hyppolit Started working on Wx::Scintilla::Manual::Constants
07:33 Hyppolit trunk/Wx-Scintilla/lib/Wx/Scintilla/ trunk/Wx-Scintilla/lib/Wx/Scintilla/Manual/ trunk/Wx-Scintilla/share/
07:35 azawawi good morning #padre
07:35 * azawawi is still feeling sick :(
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08:01 waxhead hmm... I"m not liking this release of ubuntu at all
08:01 Alias azawawi, ahem
08:01 Alias Wx::Scintilla :)
08:01 azawawi Alias: me sick
08:01 azawawi Alias: :)
08:01 Alias I heard
08:01 waxhead so, are we holding the release off until the Scintilla work is done?
08:01 azawawi yup
08:02 azawawi let us do it on wednesday
08:02 azawawi since im writing stuff really slow with this documentation effort
08:02 waxhead the release?
08:02 azawawi yup
08:02 waxhead OK...
08:02 azawawi Wed or Thu
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08:03 azawawi mishin: ping
08:03 azawawi mishin: about your error
08:03 azawawi mishin: you ran 'cpan .' inside padre trunk and not in padre_trunk/Padre
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08:04 * azawawi reads http://blogs.perl.org/users/jeffrey_ke​gler/2011/10/marpaxs-is-now-beta.html
08:04 azawawi i wonder if marpa can be useful in outline views for different languages
08:04 azawawi that's what i would like to see Perl do
08:04 azawawi grammars
08:05 azawawi More formal grammars for different languages
08:05 azawawi 'reusable' grammars
08:07 azawawi waxhead: did you try 'CPAN explorer' ?
08:08 waxhead azawawi, no, not yet...
08:08 waxhead suffering hay fever and struggling to get things done.. :(
08:08 azawawi Alias: that's what im hoping Help Search to become
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08:35 bowtie gm
08:36 azawawi gm
08:37 bowtie azawawi, so it's hot lemon and honey then :)
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08:43 szabgab gm
08:43 szabgab azawawi, and everyone, could you please check for typos? http://perlweekly.com/archive/13.html
08:45 bowtie Is there a new trend, improving About dialog in Padre.fbp but not generating the FBP, I am all for improving About Dialog, but don't you think you should generate the FBP/About.pm so we can experience your efforts :(
08:49 bowtie this has happened twice now, different authors, though
08:50 azawawi s/Listing of all (?) the blogs posts about YAPC::Asia Tokyo 2011 /One More Record? from YAPC::Asia Tokyo 2011
08:50 szabgab bowtie: lashes
08:50 szabgab azawawi: I know, I changed the title there
08:51 szabgab if that's what you are pointing out
08:51 azawawi yup
08:51 szabgab I should change more titles to make them more relvant or interesting
08:51 bowtie szabgab, we don't do that here any more, shame though, nice idea :)
08:51 szabgab according to my view :)
08:51 szabgab bowtie: then withhold karma
08:52 azawawi szabgab: busy these days?
08:52 szabgab azawawi: trying to do something else :)
08:52 bowtie szabgab, it's good you are here, today :)
08:53 szabgab I am always here I just avoid getting involved :)
08:53 szabgab things seem to work better without me
08:54 Hyppolit svn: r17145 | bowtie++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17145
08:54 Hyppolit start to tweak the ugly stuff
08:54 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-Debug/lib/Padre/Plugin/Debug/
08:55 azawawi that's why i asked for developer releases for Padre...
08:55 azawawi the change rate...
08:56 szabgab azawawi: go for it :)
08:56 azawawi hehe it is like that blog i read that day in Perl world :)
08:57 bowtie szabgab, sorry but you can't avoid this, when you have a moment, can you take a look at P-P-Debug debugging with breakpoints and auto variables :)
08:58 szabgab bowtie: do you have a PAUSE id ?
08:58 bowtie szabgab, whats a PAUSE id for?
08:59 szabgab pause.perl.org/
08:59 azawawi bowtie: cpan uploads
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08:59 szabgab bowtie: ask for one NOW and tell them you are getting co-maint bit for Debug::Client
09:00 bowtie sorry guys I don't know, I have an account for adding comments to CPAN modules thought, is this same thing, havent used for ages though :)
09:01 szabgab azawawi: please teach him how to upload a new module to CPAN :)
09:06 azawawi no problem
09:07 azawawi bowtie: ping!
09:07 azawawi bowtie: try to login to your PAUSE account in http://pause.perl.org
09:07 azawawi bowtie: it is so easy
09:07 bowtie azawawi, pong, I think I have a bitcard just checking now
09:08 azawawi bowtie: perl Makefile.PL && make manifest && make dist && make && make test
09:08 azawawi bowtie: cpan-upload your-dist-$version
09:08 azawawi bowtie: asks for  your username/password
09:09 azawawi bowtie: cpan-upload --user your-pause-username your-dist-$version
09:09 azawawi bowtie: if you dont have one, http://pause.perl.org/paus​e/query?ACTION=request_id
09:09 azawawi bowtie: https://metacpan.org/author/BOWTIE ?
09:12 bowtie azawawi, sounds like a Padre plugin :)
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09:30 bowtie As directed, Request for PAUSE account made
09:35 azawawi cool
09:35 azawawi bowtie++
09:39 bowtie azawawi, any chance of a colour adjustment with your two tone CPAN panel, for me it's worse than black on white, sorry
09:40 azawawi it is the same as keybindings btw in preferences
09:45 bowtie azawawi, so it is, I had not noticed the similarity, but in panel I don't think it is quite right, anybody else?
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10:35 bowtie azawawi, ping
10:37 bowtie azawawi, have you generated this yet http://irclog.perlgeek.de/​padre/2011-10-24#i_4606905 ps save a copy first
10:42 azawawi bowtie: will do :)
10:43 azawawi bowtie: im doing it slowly since i dont have the concentration like all days to do a million things at once  :)
10:44 bowtie azawawi, I trust No1 is looking after you
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11:44 bowtie azawawi, I think the last revision of About is 16593, what fun it will be reverting Padre.fbp as it contains multiple panels/dialogs, should this be a single file?
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12:38 sugar hi guys
12:38 sugar how can i run script from padre with some args?
12:39 sugar eg: script.pl arg1 arg2 ...
12:39 azawawi Run command?
12:42 sugar hmmm
12:46 sugar i incorrectly said
12:46 azawawi preferences/Perl 5/script arguments?
12:47 sugar i want run script with args, from certain dir, and via debugger
12:47 sugar is it possible?
12:47 azawawi did you try the above?
12:47 azawawi :)
12:49 sugar cant find
12:49 sugar found  preferences/language Perl5/
12:49 sugar sorry
12:50 azawawi cool
12:50 azawawi let me know if it works :)
12:50 sugar it works =)
12:51 azawawi cool
12:51 sugar and how to change current dir to script?
12:53 azawawi chdir inside the script?
12:53 sugar ok it hasn't any sense now
12:53 azawawi cool :)
12:54 sugar yes, this is decision, but i had script from /usr/bin/* and i just copied it =)
12:54 sugar debugger is cool
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13:01 abraxxa is the 100% cpu usage on ubuntu 11.10 a known bug?
13:02 azawawi abraxxa: 100% for what?
13:02 azawawi abraxxa: what panels do you have enabled?
13:02 abraxxa when a tab with a pm file is opened
13:02 abraxxa so no
13:02 abraxxa how can i debug which part takes the cpu?
13:03 azawawi abraxxa: i would use Devel::NYTProf then maybe?
13:08 abraxxa i haven't found out what it triggers
13:09 azawawi again... padre is using 100% cpu or the script?
13:12 abraxxa padre
13:12 abraxxa it might have to do with syntax checking
13:12 azawawi disable syntax checking?
13:12 azawawi and try again?
13:12 abraxxa running under nytprof now, but it hasn't occurred for now
13:12 abraxxa it doesn't happen immediatly
13:13 abraxxa i'll check the nytprof output when it happens again
13:13 abraxxa how do i have to kill the process without damaging the nytprof output file?
13:13 abraxxa i think killing the proc with kill <pid> does that
13:14 azawawi kill -HUP ?
13:15 azawawi abraxxa: http://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepub​s/009695399/basedefs/signal.h.html
13:16 abraxxa C is like Chinese to me
13:16 azawawi :)
13:16 abraxxa that's why i code Perl
13:17 daxim see also `man 2 signal`, `man 3p signal` and `man 7 signal`
13:17 abraxxa what are those numbers?
13:17 daxim manual sections, unsurprisingly
13:17 abraxxa what are man sections?
13:17 daxim sections in the manual
13:18 abraxxa lol
13:18 abraxxa really?
13:18 daxim YA RLY
13:18 abraxxa i don't see any difference between 'man signal' and 'man 2 signal'
13:19 daxim unset MAN_POSIXLY_CORRECT
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14:11 abraxxa Profile data incomplete, inflate error -5 ((null)) at end of input file, perhaps the process didn't exit cleanly or the file has been truncated
14:11 abraxxa the proc crashed before i could do the -HUP
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14:34 nornagest hi
14:43 nornagest Is someone here using Padre with Padre::Plugin::SVN on Windows?
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16:00 Hyppolit svn: r17146 | zenogantner++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17146
16:00 Hyppolit update German translation
16:00 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/share/locale/
16:01 szabgab I keep getting this line on the console (using Ubuntu 11.10)
16:01 szabgab (padre:23233): LIBDBUSMENU-GTK-CRITICAL **: watch_submenu: assertion `GTK_IS_MENU_SHELL(menu)' failed
16:01 szabgab it seems to be harmless but annoying
16:02 szabgab unfortunatelly PAdre also crashed on my a few seconds ago which is unrelated to the above and I don't see any indication on the console to the cause
16:03 szabgab I was pressing the down arrow with or withous shift I think when it happened
16:06 szabgab and autosave did NOT save my work :(
16:11 szabgab oh, I cannot even find the autosave now, wasn't there one?
16:19 Hyppolit # 1355 :  Padre should either remember per-tab search terms, or support search for the last search term (new defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/1355 ]
16:27 Hyppolit # 1356 :  gray out "Open All/Clear Recent Files" if the list is empty (new enhancement) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/1356 ]
16:30 Hyppolit # 1356 :  gray out "Open All/Clear Recent Files" if the list is empty (new enhancement) new attachment [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/1356 ]
16:37 Hyppolit # 1357 :  "Debugger" menu is shown for non-Perl files (new defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/1357 ]
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16:50 Hyppolit # 1358 :  make status bar interactive (new enhancement) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/1358 ]
16:50 Hyppolit # 1358 :  make status bar interactive (new enhancement) new attachment [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/1358 ]
16:51 Hyppolit # 1358 :  make status bar interactive (new enhancement) by zenogantner  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1358#comment:1 ]
16:52 Hyppolit # 1358 :  make status bar interactive (new enhancement) by zenogantner  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1358#comment:2 ]
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17:08 Hyppolit # 1359 :  plugin manager vertical separator should be movable (new enhancement) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/1359 ]
17:20 Hyppolit # 1357 :  "Debugger" menu is shown for non-Perl files (new defect) by bowtie  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1357#comment:1 ]
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17:41 metaperl|2 someone has come up with an easy way to write Wx apps in Perl - https://metacpan.org/module/Decl
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19:27 Hyppolit svn: r17147 | dolmen++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17147
19:27 Hyppolit Fix messages punctuation
19:27 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Dialog/
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23:13 Hyppolit svn: r17148 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17148
23:13 Hyppolit Update the messages.pot file
23:13 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/share/locale/
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23:30 nornagest Good night!
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