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IRC log for #padre, 2011-11-03

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01:33 Hyppolit svn: r17269 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17269
01:33 Hyppolit Replace and Replace in Files hide the Fast Find panel as well.
01:33 Hyppolit
01:33 Hyppolit When Fast Find is open at the time you show the Replace dialog, prepopulate the search term with the find fast term
01:33 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Dialog/
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02:09 azawawi early-bird good morning #padre :)
02:09 azawawi Alias: ping!
02:39 Alias yo
02:39 Alias Thanks for the releases
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04:00 Hyppolit svn: r17270 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17270
04:00 Hyppolit Find in Files and Replace in Files now also capture the search term from the fast find, if it is open
04:00 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Dialog/
04:02 Alias Hrm, Replace is not a FBP yet, oddly
04:02 Alias Oops
04:05 Alias According to wikipedia the industry is already moving to consolidation and specialisation
04:05 Alias Bad
04:10 Hyppolit svn: r17271 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17271
04:10 Hyppolit Whitespace
04:10 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Dialog/
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04:24 Hyppolit svn: r17272 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17272
04:24 Hyppolit Delay loading of the main Wx::Scintilla package by using the constant package directly.
04:24 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/
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07:18 azawawi i dont understand one thing
07:18 azawawi on vista, tools/tidy_project.pl tidies a bit differently than on win7
07:18 azawawi i checked Perl::Tidy and there are both the same, strange... :)
07:23 Hyppolit svn: r17273 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17273
07:23 Hyppolit Added q{Happy Birthday, MetaCPAN!} blog post by Olaf Alders that mentions Padre's CPAN explorer
07:23 Hyppolit trunk/template.padre.perlide.org/data/
07:46 Hyppolit wiki page http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/wiki/PadreCPANExplorer changed by azawawi
07:48 azawawi tada ... http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/wiki/PadreCPANExplorer :)
07:48 Hyppolit wiki page http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/wiki/PadreCPANExplorer changed by azawawi
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08:19 Hyppolit svn: r17274 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17274
08:19 Hyppolit Fixed bold font bug reported by Kevin Dawson bowtie++ and bumped version to 0.35_02
08:19 Hyppolit trunk/Wx-Scintilla/ trunk/Wx-Scintilla/lib/Wx/ trunk/Wx-Scintilla/lib/Wx/Scintilla/ trunk/Wx-Scintilla/wx-scintilla/include/ trunk/Wx-Scintilla/wx-scintilla/src/
08:21 * azawawi prepares to upload 0.35_02
08:26 * azawawi POSTing upload for Wx-Scintilla-0.35_02.tar.gz
08:30 azawawi cpanm http://cpan.metacpan.org/authors/id/A/​AZ/AZAWAWI/Wx-Scintilla-0.35_02.tar.gz
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08:39 mishin CPANExplorer very interesting, when will be ready?
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08:43 mishin 2azawawi: how use it? i see cpan explorer in padre, but nothing happened when i enter something in search window
08:44 mishin and why Padre crash, when i click right button of mouse? (dev version from svn)
08:46 mishin I have to do without the right mouse button
08:55 Hyppolit svn: r17275 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17275
08:55 Hyppolit Added "metacpan.org one year old" blog post which mentioned Padre CPAN explorer :)
08:55 Hyppolit trunk/template.padre.perlide.org/data/
08:56 azawawi mishin: cpanm Wx::Scintilla
08:59 azawawi -> to dot feature in Perl lol http://perl5.git.perl.org/perl.git/commit/0c1fbeee
09:00 El_Che azawawi: if they are copying java why not use + for concatenation? :)
09:00 El_Che what other languages use ~ ?
09:08 Hyppolit svn: r17276 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17276
09:08 Hyppolit add link to the perl-begin web site of rindolf
09:08 Hyppolit trunk/template.padre.perlide.org/tt/pages/
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09:11 bowtie gm
09:12 azawawi El_Che: Perl 6? :)
09:15 Hyppolit svn: r17277 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17277
09:15 Hyppolit no interpolatin in translated string
09:15 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Task/
09:15 Hyppolit svn: r17278 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17278
09:15 Hyppolit Update the messages.pot file
09:15 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/share/locale/
09:15 azawawi bowtie: say q{gm}; # :)
09:16 bowtie lol
09:20 bowtie azawawi, have you put the crayons away?
09:21 El_Che azawawi: Perl 6? Mmm. It rings a bell. It that the new functional language on .Net? :)
09:21 El_Che hi bowtie
09:21 bowtie El_Che, hi
09:26 mishin azawawi: i install Wx::Scintilla already - Wx::Scintilla is up to date (0.34).
09:27 mishin i couldn't get the same picture as in http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/wiki/PadreCPANExplorer
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09:33 Foxcool When 0.92 will be upload to CPAN? (:
09:34 szabgab as I can  see the release starts on Monday.au
09:35 Foxcool ok (:
09:35 szabgab I just saw it on the mailing list
09:38 Hyppolit svn: r17279 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17279
09:38 Hyppolit Sorting is now done correctly on each list tab. Ideally ... we need a Padre::Wx::ListCtrl which handles that state information. Hint Hint... Alias++ :)
09:38 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/FBP/
09:39 azawawi El_Che: hehe
09:55 bowtie szabgab, ping
09:55 Hyppolit svn: r17280 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17280
09:55 Hyppolit List sorting is initially disabled until the user {aka programmer :)} clicks on the list column
09:55 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/
09:56 azawawi bowtie: indicators are blown on Scintilla 3.0 or so it seems :)
09:56 bowtie azawawi, what indicators?
09:56 azawawi diff indicators
09:56 bowtie where?
09:57 azawawi when you use Wx::Scintilla (development)
09:57 bowtie O you mean the margin markers, eg dotdotdot
09:57 azawawi margin markers yup
09:58 bowtie azawawi, so whats the 3.0 way
09:58 szabgab bowtie: pong but quickly please
09:58 sugar hi guys
09:58 bowtie or do we have to do as Swarm
09:58 sugar any helping with testing colorchemes is needed?
09:59 bowtie szabgab, I have got a CPAN testers report, how do I read and decode errors in to code
09:59 szabgab what?
09:59 Hyppolit what is that link you send me?
09:59 bowtie ie Non-zero exit status: 54
10:00 szabgab I don't know
10:01 bowtie szabgab, ok, which members do cpan smoketesting?
10:07 Hyppolit svn: r17281 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17281
10:07 Hyppolit Refactored POD colors in CPAN explorer
10:07 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/
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10:49 Hyppolit svn: r17282 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17282
10:49 Hyppolit Install button now installs the correct download URL of a MetaCPAN Recent module release. So basically for "Search" and "Favorite" tab we invoke cpanm Package::Name and for recent cpanm package-name-version.tar.gz. Enjoy
10:49 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Task/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/
11:14 Hyppolit svn: r17283 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17283
11:14 Hyppolit Update the messages.pot file
11:14 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/share/locale/
11:16 * azawawi is bored
11:16 szabgab azawawi: may I suggest to write a blog entry then ?
11:17 azawawi MetaCPAN! :)
11:17 azawawi then i will work on the diff tool :)
11:17 azawawi diff window that is
11:17 azawawi which reminds me
11:18 azawawi why are we not using wxWidgets 2.9.x ?
11:18 azawawi :)
11:18 szabgab azawawi: could you fix / implement the split window editing?
11:18 szabgab it used to work 2 years ago :)
11:18 bowtie azawawi, what do you think will be the solution to margin markers
11:18 azawawi szabgab: screenshot to prove it :)
11:18 szabgab nah
11:19 szabgab there are 2 things
11:19 szabgab one of them worked
11:19 bowtie azawawi, what about you looking at P-P-Debug
11:19 szabgab it was tha you could have two tabs opened to the same file
11:19 szabgab and if you updated in one window it updated in the other as well
11:19 szabgab it still was not real split window as in vim
11:20 azawawi splitwindow is so.... in wxWidgets
11:20 szabgab but you can then go back and forth between the two buffers and see different parts of the same file
11:20 azawawi i tried on wxformbuilder and it seems not to be supported
11:20 azawawi s/tried/tried it/
11:20 azawawi eventually our needs will outgrow wxformbuilder
11:21 azawawi that may be my secret project over the Eid holiday :)
11:21 szabgab my blog posts were  posted on ycombinator and on reddit and now my server can hardly handle it :)
11:21 szabgab I should fix my code so it won't be so slow
11:21 azawawi go to the cloud :)
11:21 azawawi cloud-based solution XYZ
11:21 azawawi lol
11:22 szabgab I am planning t split up my sites to several machines so at least  I'll know which site is casuing the problems
11:22 szabgab right now I have no idea if szabgab.com cpanforum.com or any of the 10-20 others is the problem
11:24 El_Che szabgab: no monitoring?
11:24 szabgab El_Che: monitoring what?
11:25 El_Che your sites, server and co
11:25 El_Che so pinpoint the problems
11:25 daxim icinga for the win :[
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11:28 azawawi szabgab: eventually we will have a bottom POD viewer that can be expanded
11:28 azawawi szabgab: and then all POD handling is moved to that view... dummy view
11:28 azawawi szabgab: Insert SYNOPSIS, Display Changes,...
11:28 azawawi szabgab: think of it as the POD Output
11:29 azawawi szabgab: hmmm, POD output
11:29 azawawi Output tab with POD ... interesting
11:29 azawawi Output with history of runs ... more interesting
11:33 Hyppolit svn: r17284 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17284
11:33 Hyppolit Dropping feature_diff_window configuration parameter (initially OFF) to work on the differences window that compares two buffers graphically
11:33 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/ trunk/Padre/t/
11:45 Hyppolit svn: r17285 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17285
11:45 Hyppolit Added differences window that shows side by side Scintilla editors. Nothing yet but it is a start. This is ofcourse hidden under feature_diff_window
11:45 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Menu/
11:55 szabgab sorry I was on the phone
11:55 szabgab El_Che: I am not sure wha could I monitor
11:56 szabgab I see apache with lots of load
11:56 szabgab but how can I know which web site is creating the big load?
12:01 Hyppolit svn: r17286 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17286
12:01 Hyppolit Show left and right editor in the differences window with line number. It is currently using sample data until I can verify it works 100%.
12:01 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/
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12:09 Hyppolit svn: r17287 | bowtie++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17287
12:09 Hyppolit Upgrade to 0.13_02
12:09 Hyppolit added more tests, more todo
12:09 Hyppolit trunk/Debug-Client/ trunk/Debug-Client/lib/Debug/ trunk/Debug-Client/t/
12:14 Hyppolit svn: r17288 | bowtie++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17288
12:14 Hyppolit update requirement to Debug::Client 0.13_02
12:14 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-Debug/lib/Padre/Plugin/
12:15 bowtie azawawi, ping
12:16 azawawi bowtie: pong
12:16 Hyppolit svn: r17289 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17289
12:16 Hyppolit Close work now and a lot of the UI has been enhanced
12:16 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/FBP/
12:17 bowtie azawawi, cpan recent needs auto sizing, name is being clipped
12:18 azawawi increase it a bit do not put auto resizing...
12:18 azawawi please
12:18 bowtie oops distribution = name, are you sure you have the corect header names
12:18 azawawi i may have changed stuff a bit
12:19 bowtie azawawi, no, I am not going to change any thing, just feedback
12:21 azawawi thanks
12:22 bowtie azawawi, with your vast knowledge where can I find a page/wiki about reading cpan test reports, and converting them to English
12:28 azawawi vast = exaggeration :)
12:29 bowtie azawawi, all right then, can you give me a kick in right direction then please
12:30 bowtie can I simulate cpan testers report locally?
12:31 daxim like what
12:32 bowtie daxim, hi I am after a guide as to how to read report, and where do I lookup error numbers, so I can fix, thanks
12:32 daxim you can set up a smoking/testing system and then deliver the reports into a text file instead of HTTP
12:32 daxim which error numbers?
12:32 azawawi daxim++
12:33 bowtie Non-zero exit status: 54
12:34 daxim since the numbers is < 128, it is a regular exit code from the script.  look into the test for calls to exit()
12:35 daxim the semantics of exit codes are specified in posix, perldoc -f system gives an overview
12:35 bowtie ok, but when I run make test or prove -lv I don't see these errors?
12:38 daxim then take the report and ask in #cpantesters-discuss
12:39 bowtie daxim, thanks
12:42 Hyppolit svn: r17290 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17290
12:42 Hyppolit Diff window initial coloring. Basically Padre can display a real diff window. Next/Previous is next :)
12:42 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/
12:43 bowtie azawawi, you still have not told me the solution to margin markers?
12:46 azawawi margin markers solution?
12:49 bowtie yes when they disappear in Wx::Scintilla 3.0
12:50 azawawi no idea... needs investigation
12:50 azawawi i will not promote Scintilla to stable unless we go through a couple of iterations
12:51 azawawi s/Scintilla/Scintilla 3/
12:56 bowtie azawawi, ho do I see your new diff thingie?
12:59 azawawi feature_diff_window => 1
12:59 azawawi and then tools/show diff window!
13:00 Hyppolit svn: r17291 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17291
13:00 Hyppolit Better left/right highlighting
13:00 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/
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13:06 Hyppolit svn: r17292 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17292
13:06 Hyppolit Current caret => 1 for left and right sides
13:06 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/
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13:14 zenog hi #padre
13:14 azawawi hi zenog :)
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14:03 bowtie azawawi, I can see the light, red and green
14:12 bowtie azawawi, have you looked at P-P-Debug yet?
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14:45 Hyppolit svn: r17293 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17293
14:45 Hyppolit Cool we're nearly there. Diff window does color right but we need to skip line numbers on empty left/right sides
14:45 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/
14:51 * azawawi takes a look at P-P-Debug
14:51 azawawi Debugger checkbox crashes Padre
14:59 Hyppolit svn: r17294 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17294
14:59 Hyppolit Lighter red/green colors
14:59 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/
15:08 bowtie azawawi, cool, give me more info, that's the check box in dialog debug simulator?
15:10 azawawi btw, skipping line number is not supported in Scintilla
15:11 azawawi i think we need to define a text margin
15:12 bowtie azawawi, what do you mean by  skipping line number ?
15:13 azawawi left and right side
15:13 azawawi right side => +1 line
15:13 azawawi you need to skip one line on the left side
15:14 azawawi i added four lines on the right side...
15:14 azawawi i need to skip 4 fours on the left side
15:14 Hyppolit svn: r17295 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17295
15:14 Hyppolit Update the messages.pot file
15:14 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/share/locale/
15:14 azawawi or i can simulate it via an empty annotation
15:15 bowtie azawawi, are we on crossed lines here?
15:17 azawawi like http://www.scintilla.org/annotations.png
15:17 Hyppolit svn: r17296 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17296
15:17 Hyppolit Proof of concept empty annotation without any border trick to simulate skipping line numbers
15:17 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/
15:17 azawawi but without the border
15:17 azawawi and is empty
15:18 azawawi to simulate skipping of line numbers
15:19 azawawi we're nearly there
15:19 azawawi realtime diff window! :)
15:19 azawawi at the bottom
15:20 azawawi you type and it is updating all the time...
15:21 bowtie azawawi, is it me or has svn slowed down again?
15:21 azawawi cant judge since the internet will be slow by default now...
15:21 azawawi holiday greetings...
15:22 bowtie azawawi, is that all the feedback I get
15:24 Hyppolit svn: r17297 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17297
15:24 Hyppolit Fix perlcritic valid warning on Padre::Task::CPAN2
15:24 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Task/
15:25 * azawawi runs on last 'RELEASE_TESTING=1 cpan .' to make sure nothing is broken :)
15:28 bowtie azawawi, I need more than just "Debugger checkbox crashes Padre" be fair
15:29 shadowpaste "azawawi" at 217.168.150.38 pasted "Padre::Plugin::Debug Crash" (26 lines) at http://paste.scsys.co.uk/156475
15:29 azawawi :)
15:29 * azawawi prepares to leave for the holiday :)
15:31 azawawi hopefully Padre is better :)
15:32 azawawi thanks for all the tuna :)
15:36 Hyppolit svn: r17298 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17298
15:36 Hyppolit previous commit fixed azawawi-- azawawi--
15:36 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Task/
15:48 bowtie azawawi, thanks :)
15:52 zenog azawawi: enjoy your holiday!
15:52 bowtie zenog
15:57 zenog bowtie
15:59 Hyppolit svn: r17299 | bowtie++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17299
15:59 Hyppolit changed to version 0.13_02 to keep in sync with Debug::Client changes
15:59 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-Debug/lib/Padre/Plugin/
16:02 bowtie zenog, I am in need of another viewer to look at P-P-Debug, please, tome => osx ok, azawawi =>ms not ok ( but looks like out of sync though) can you please download P-P-Debug from trunk and Debug::Client form trunk of CPAN both are version 0.13_02
16:06 zenog bowtie: Sorry, I am very busy today, I cannot fit that into my schedule. I fear you must find someone else for Linux.
16:07 bowtie zenog, I am on linux, ubuntu 10.04 and 11.10 both ok here
16:09 zenog bowtie: same here
16:14 bowtie zenog, you need to add to your todo list as it has new icons and logic about how they are displayed
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17:07 Hyppolit svn: r17300 | bowtie++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17300
17:07 Hyppolit Some tidying and tweaking around
17:07 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-Debug/lib/Padre/Plugin/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-Debug/lib/Padre/Plugin/Debug/
17:10 Hyppolit svn: r17301 | bowtie++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17301
17:10 Hyppolit delete unwanted files
17:10 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-Debug/lib/Padre/Plugin/Debug/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-Debug/l​ib/Padre/Plugin/Debug/FBP/
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18:51 Hyppolit svn: r17302 | bowtie++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17302
18:51 Hyppolit Some POD changes
18:51 Hyppolit trunk/Debug-Client/ trunk/Debug-Client/lib/Debug/
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20:08 waxhead whoops... fetchmail wasn't restarted... :-/
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23:32 Hyppolit svn: r17303 | bowtie++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17303
23:32 Hyppolit Add more tests and POD changes
23:32 Hyppolit trunk/Debug-Client/ trunk/Debug-Client/lib/Debug/ trunk/Debug-Client/t/

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