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00:20 Hyppolit wiki page http://padre.perlide.org/trac​/wiki/Features/Perl5Debugger changed by bowtie
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07:47 azawawi good morning #padre
07:53 sugar morning
07:59 azawawi sugar: gm
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08:08 Hyppolit svn: r17360 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17360
08:08 Hyppolit Fix SurfaceImpl::Polygon drawing bug that caused some markers to not be drawn at all. This was introduced in 0.35_01. bowtie++
08:08 Hyppolit trunk/Wx-Scintilla/ trunk/Wx-Scintilla/lib/Wx/ trunk/Wx-Scintilla/lib/Wx/Scintilla/ trunk/Wx-Scintilla/wx-scintilla/src/
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08:27 * azawawi preparing Wx::Scintilla 0.35_04
08:36 azawawi cpanm http://cpan.metacpan.org/authors/id/A/​AZ/AZAWAWI/Wx-Scintilla-0.35_04.tar.gz
08:37 azawawi # fixes margin markers issue that happened when we upgraded to Scintilla 3.0.0
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08:51 Hyppolit # 1310 :  unable to compile with strawberry perl  5.12.3 (new defect) by azawawi  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1310#comment:8 ]
08:52 Hyppolit # 1327 :  Padre trunk crashes on Ubuntu 10.04 (new defect) by azawawi  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1327#comment:13 ]
08:52 Hyppolit # 1338 :  Opening a File not in Project kills Padre (new defect) by azawawi  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1338#comment:3 ]
09:29 Hyppolit svn: r17361 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17361
09:29 Hyppolit Properly fix xt/badcode.t for Padre::Wx::Dialog::Replace. waxhead++ for reporting it
09:29 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Dialog/
09:33 sugar when will 0.92 be on CPAN?
09:34 El_Che sugar: once it's released (soon), sure
09:35 Hyppolit svn: r17362 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17362
09:35 Hyppolit Fix xt/pragmas.t failure under RELEASE_TESTING=1 by generating it again. Alias are you using a newer version of FormBuilder?
09:35 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/FBP/
09:46 waxhead Man alive!  I wonder why the version change don't pick up the Wx/Dialog folder...
09:48 azawawi get r17361 and r17362 plz
09:48 Hyppolit Changeset #17361 http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17361
09:48 azawawi these fix a couple of RELEASE_TESTING=1 tests
09:49 Hyppolit svn: r17363 | waxhead++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17363
09:49 Hyppolit setting version 0.92, for some reason it was read only so it hasnt been updated... ???
09:49 Hyppolit branches/Padre-0.92/lib/Padre/Wx/Dialog/
09:51 azawawi Padre::Wx::Dialog::Replace needs a change of version to 0.92
09:51 waxhead wow.. we need to get back to regular releases... I've forgotten so many things!  :)
09:52 waxhead could be a long night ahead....
09:52 azawawi +1 regular monthly releases
09:52 azawawi or 2 weeks depending on volume
09:52 azawawi no more big refactors plz :)
09:53 El_Che azawawi: weren't you migrating the code to Moose :P
09:53 El_Che :)
09:53 azawawi lol
09:53 azawawi im conservative when it comes to refactoring btw
09:53 waxhead azawawi, Alias is planning to make the lead up to 1.0 as the big code effort... after 1.0 we can go back to more frequent releases.. which is a bit odd given the view of stable software.. :)
09:54 * El_Che off to work (3rd try to get the train today :(  )
09:54 waxhead El_Che, alias does the big breaky refactorings
09:54 waxhead El_Che, have fun!
09:54 El_Che alias is not a moose man
09:54 El_Che is more the tiny man :)
09:54 waxhead no he isn't...
09:54 waxhead yeah.. :)
09:54 El_Che bbl
09:54 azawawi ::Tiny
09:54 El_Che Padre::Tiny
09:54 El_Che lol
09:55 waxhead Given the size of Padre though, surely the startup overhead wouldn't be that bad would it?
09:55 azawawi it is really funny
09:55 azawawi when it comes to Modern Perl
09:55 waxhead mind you I haven't done any moose, apart from some tutorial stuff for catalyst...
09:55 azawawi we should be using Moose :)
09:55 azawawi this minimalist approach to things is good and bad
09:56 azawawi good in that it means less deps to worry about
09:57 azawawi and bad in that you're actually repeating the 5.8->5.10 perl scenario
09:57 azawawi we wont upgrade syntax because of compatibility
09:57 waxhead OK, I have a tarball here.... just need to test it installs OK...
09:57 azawawi but we break API all the time :)
09:57 waxhead anyone got a VM they want to test with?
09:57 azawawi i have...
09:57 waxhead http://peshel.dnsalias.net/pa​dre-release/Padre-.092.tar.gz
09:57 waxhead http://peshel.dnsalias.net/pa​dre-release/Padre-0.92.tar.gz
09:58 waxhead sorry...
09:58 waxhead No one but testers on systems they don't care about should down load from here...
09:59 azawawi pm-uninstall Padre # to make sure nothing goes wrong first :)
09:59 azawawi waxhead: 0.92 contains the Replace patch or not?
10:01 waxhead azawawi, dunno.. when was it done?
10:03 azawawi RELEASE_TESTING=1 cpan . passes or not on Padre 0.92?
10:03 waxhead azawawi, not.. there's blockers and something else too...
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10:04 waxhead azawawi, for this release, as with others in the past, some failed tests in the xt/ series are mindfully ignored in the name of getting a release out
10:04 waxhead the tests themselves don't appear related to any outstanding issues that I could see...
10:05 azawawi oh well
10:05 waxhead happy to be told otherwise, and I'll merge the branch back and then branch trunk again
10:07 * azawawi tries it on ubuntu and win32
10:07 * waxhead has to install virtualbox again....
10:07 waxhead that's the pain with installing a new distro
10:11 azawawi hmmm a lot of failures strange
10:11 waxhead RELEASE_TESTING=1 ?
10:15 waxhead azawawi, with RELEASE_TESTING being set or not set?
10:18 azawawi hmmm
10:18 azawawi pm-uninstall Padre
10:18 azawawi no Padre on the system
10:19 shadowpaste "azawawi" at 217.168.150.38 pasted "Build failures" (71 lines) at http://paste.scsys.co.uk/159831
10:19 crux hi
10:20 crux is it too late to commit translation in to the 0.92 branch?
10:23 azawawi i dont think so
10:24 azawawi waxhead: ?
10:24 azawawi crux: we're still testing it
10:26 waxhead crux, go for it...
10:27 waxhead azawawi, that is odd... I don't see those errors here!
10:27 waxhead and my VM is broken.. Wx won't install... sighs!
10:27 azawawi brb meeting
10:28 crux ok
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10:45 waxhead azawawi, I get pass OK from svn...
10:46 waxhead I can't get my VM working... so I'll try an install on the vista computer
10:54 Hyppolit wiki page http://padre.perlide.org/trac​/wiki/Features/Perl5Debugger changed by bowtie
10:59 azawawi waxhead: im trying it again
10:59 azawawi waxhead: and making sure i dont have any left-overs on my system
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11:08 azawawi waxhead: ping
11:08 azawawi waxhead: downloading http://peshel.dnsalias.net/pa​dre-release/Padre-.092.tar.gz and dmake test works
11:09 azawawi waxhead: trying now cpanm --verbose ...
11:10 waxhead azawawi, installed just fine on Vista here
11:11 waxhead that URL isn't quite right either
11:12 waxhead azawawi, maybe that's why it failed?  :)
11:12 waxhead http://peshel.dnsalias.net/pa​dre-release/Padre-0.92.tar.gz
11:12 waxhead ^^^ only for testers.. don't install from here!
11:13 waxhead crux, will you get the translation done soon?
11:13 azawawi waxhead: aha caught it!
11:14 waxhead azawawi, local problem or padre problem?
11:14 waxhead translations?
11:14 Hyppolit translations is http://perlide.org/translations/
11:14 waxhead brogramming:
11:15 waxhead http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qi_AAqi0RZM
11:16 azawawi waxhead: AUTOMATED_TESTING and cpanm...
11:16 azawawi take a look at t/14_warnings.t
11:16 azawawi please
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11:18 bowtie gm
11:21 azawawi http://paste.scsys.co.uk/159831 is interesting
11:22 azawawi cpanm seems to need PERL_CPANM_NO_AUTOMATED_TESTING=1
11:22 azawawi lol
11:25 azawawi bowtie: gm
11:26 bowtie azawawi, you inspired me to do a wiki for P-P-Debug, thanks
11:28 azawawi bowtie: btw...http://paste.scsys.co.uk/159831
11:28 azawawi bowtie: see the entry for P-P-P
11:28 azawawi bowtie: Patch... :)
11:28 waxhead azawawi, right.. but what does that mean for installs?  That it's a problem if you use cpanm?
11:29 waxhead i used pip to install from my server to the vista box and it was fine
11:29 azawawi sure
11:29 azawawi if you use cpanm...
11:29 azawawi bomb...
11:30 azawawi oops
11:31 azawawi if ( $svn_client_version = Padre::Util::run_in_directory_two('svn --version --quiet') ) { ... }  # lol
11:33 waxhead ??
11:34 azawawi waxhead: cpanm sets AUTOMATED_TESTING
11:34 azawawi waxhead: hence some tests will break
11:34 azawawi waxhead: http://paste.scsys.co.uk/159831
11:34 azawawi waxhead: for Padre to install using cpanm
11:35 azawawi waxhead: PERL_CPANM_NO_AUTOMATED_TESTING=1 cpanm Padre...
11:36 bowtie azawawi, ok I will look at line 525
11:36 azawawi waxhead: references https://metacpan.org/source/MIYAG​AWA/App-cpanminus-1.5004/Changes
11:37 bowtie azawawi, line 525 is not an error, it might be bad code though :) but not an error
11:40 azawawi it is an easy fix
11:40 azawawi besides you can lexically do it in a better way
11:41 Hyppolit svn: r17364 | thecrux++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17364
11:41 Hyppolit updated russian translation
11:41 Hyppolit branches/Padre-0.92/share/locale/
11:41 crux waxhead: done
11:45 Hyppolit svn: r17365 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17365
11:45 Hyppolit Fix t\14_warnings.t, cpanm sets AUTOMATED_TESTING and these files are bad in the eyes of beginner checks which are based on regex and not real PPI
11:45 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/t/
11:45 azawawi bowtie: done
11:45 azawawi waxhead: that's one
11:48 bowtie azawawi, do you want me to rewrite that line?
11:48 azawawi later :)
11:48 azawawi t/93_padre_filename_win.t    same assumption
11:48 azawawi AUTOMATED_TESTING is turned on by cpanm
11:48 azawawi by default
11:50 waxhead azawawi, oh... that means all the failing xt/ tests will also show up
11:50 waxhead crux, thanks!
11:50 waxhead crux++
11:50 azawawi waxhead: that's RELEASE_TESTING=1
11:51 azawawi waxhead: and no
11:51 waxhead oh.. that's OK then...
11:51 azawawi set AUTOMATED_TESTING=1
11:51 waxhead but should I merge the branch back to trunk and then go again?
11:51 azawawi dmake test inside trunk
11:51 * waxhead tried AUTOMATED_TESTING=1
11:52 waxhead yeah, I see it now...
11:52 waxhead OK, so what's the plan here then?
11:53 waxhead I think the only major change to the branch is the translation that crux just committed...
11:53 waxhead I could merge the branch back  to trunk and re-branch for 0.92
11:53 waxhead xt/ tests do run though
11:55 Hyppolit svn: r17366 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17366
11:55 Hyppolit Fix bad assumption about win32 in 93_padre_filename_win.t
11:55 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/t/
11:57 azawawi that fixes it on my system
11:57 azawawi win7
11:57 azawawi please try it on other windowz
11:57 azawawi brb
11:59 azawawi r17361
11:59 Hyppolit Changeset #17361 http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17361
11:59 azawawi and later should be fine
12:02 Hyppolit svn: r17367 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17367
12:02 Hyppolit Updated Changes for last minute 0.92 changes
12:02 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/
12:05 azawawi waxhead: el-pingo
12:07 waxhead azawawi, pongo
12:07 azawawi waxhead: what's your plan now, master Padre releaser? :)
12:08 azawawi waxhead: shall i commit the last changes into 0.92 and go?
12:08 azawawi waxhead: :)
12:09 azawawi waxhead: cpan . # works because AUTOMATED_TESTING=undef
12:09 azawawi waxhead: cpanm . # fails because AUTOMATED_TESTING=1
12:10 waxhead azawawi, might as well
12:10 waxhead Hmm.. the merge from trunk to branch isn't so good as all the versions are back at 0.93 post the branching...
12:10 azawawi so checkout the 0.92 and commit hot-fixes? :)
12:11 waxhead which isn't a major problem I just have to change the version back to 0.92 before committing the changes...
12:11 waxhead azawawi, do you want to do it?
12:11 azawawi no worries. .. will fix ...
12:11 azawawi i want it out today ... :)
12:11 waxhead I'm just doing a --dry-run now
12:11 waxhead I know.. :)
12:11 waxhead I won't write the release announcement tonight, it's getting really late here..
12:12 waxhead which isn't always good...
12:12 * azawawi svn co padre-0.92
12:15 waxhead azawawi, patience... I'm nearly done merging the changes from trunk....
12:15 Hyppolit svn: r17368 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17368
12:15 Hyppolit Update the messages.pot file
12:15 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/share/locale/
12:15 waxhead well, maybe...
12:15 waxhead it's taking a while...
12:16 azawawi what's the http://svn.perlide.org/.../Padre-0.92 url?
12:17 azawawi svn co http://svn.perlide.org/padre/branches/Padre-0.92  # thx :)
12:18 waxhead http://svn.perlide.org/padre/branches/Padre-0.92
12:20 waxhead 17365 should be far enough back ?
12:23 Hyppolit svn: r17369 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17369
12:23 Hyppolit [Padre-0.92] Fixes from trunk:
12:23 Hyppolit Fix bad assumption about win32 in 93_padre_filename_win.t
12:23 Hyppolit Fix t\14_warnings.t, cpanm sets AUTOMATED_TESTING and these files are bad in the eyes of beginner checks which are based on regex and not real PPI
12:23 Hyppolit branches/Padre-0.92/t/
12:24 Hyppolit svn: r17370 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17370
12:24 Hyppolit [Padre-0.92] Updated Changes
12:24 Hyppolit branches/Padre-0.92/
12:24 azawawi the release date is 11.11 ?
12:24 waxhead ARGH!
12:25 waxhead I'm just working through that...
12:25 waxhead yeah, we go by the date the branch is taken...
12:25 azawawi last one...
12:25 waxhead sigh.. now my local copy is in conflct...
12:26 * waxhead wonders how to undo all merges
12:29 waxhead I guess you just rm the directory and check out again...
12:30 Hyppolit svn: r17371 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17371
12:30 Hyppolit Fix xt/pragmas.t failure under RELEASE_TESTING=1 by generating it again. Alias are you using a newer version of FormBuilder?
12:30 Hyppolit Properly fix xt/badcode.t for Padre::Wx::Dialog::Replace. waxhead++ for reporting it
12:30 Hyppolit branches/Padre-0.92/lib/Padre/Wx/Dialog/ branches/Padre-0.92/lib/Padre/Wx/FBP/
12:32 waxhead bowtie, check the comment out here: http://blogs.perl.org/users/peter_lavender/​2011/11/padre-the-upcoming-092-release.html
12:32 waxhead azawawi, done yet?
12:32 bowtie waxhead, will do
12:34 waxhead bowtie, is that your Patch work they are talking about?
12:37 bowtie waxhead, I had not thought of it as "unreal" before, but compared to what existed before it's a step forward :)
12:37 waxhead azawawi, ping
12:38 azawawi pong
12:38 azawawi im testing padre-0.92 on ubuntu  now
12:38 azawawi xt/actiontest.t
12:38 azawawi is worrying me
12:39 azawawi we should not be doing that
12:39 azawawi the AUTOMATED_TESTING assumption is all wrong
12:39 azawawi that's why cpanm Padre is taking so long
12:39 waxhead azawawi, I have ATUOMATED_TESTING=1 here and it passes ok for me
12:40 waxhead I'm sure I spelt it right in the shell
12:40 azawawi but xt/... is RELEASE_TESTING right?
12:42 azawawi $ENV{AUTOMATED_TESTING} or $ENV{RELEASE_TESTING}
12:42 azawawi ...
12:42 azawawi again what's AUTOMATED_TESTING for?
12:43 waxhead I get this:
12:43 waxhead xt/test-plugin.t ........... skipped: Required mechanism that violated encapsulation
12:43 waxhead AUTOMATED_TESTING is for smokers I believe...
12:43 azawawi http://blogs.perl.org/users/bingos/2010/06/l​ate-to-the-party-but-i-brought-bottles.html
12:43 waxhead RELEASE_TESTING is the big test suite before a release...
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12:50 waxhead azawawi, can you give me a few words about Wx::Scintilla ot put into the release announcement?
12:51 azawawi basically Wx::Scintilla is the latest Scintilla editor widgets backported to wxWidgets and is a replacement for Wx::STC
12:51 azawawi s/widgets/widget/
12:57 azawawi waxhead: do a simple announcement and we will then a run a series of feature blogs
13:03 * azawawi work &
13:13 waxhead azawawi... sure.. :)
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13:49 Hyppolit svn: r17372 | waxhead++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17372
13:49 Hyppolit tag Padre-0.92
13:49 Hyppolit tags/
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13:55 Hyppolit wiki page http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wiki/Release_History changed by waxhead
13:57 Hyppolit svn: r17373 | bowtie++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17373
13:57 Hyppolit fix Patch so it will pass test 14
13:57 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Dialog/
13:58 Hyppolit svn: r17374 | bowtie++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17374
13:58 Hyppolit updated to new prefixes
13:58 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/eg/theme/
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14:16 Topic for #padre is now Latest Padre is 0.92 - For installation see http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wiki/Download | Log: http://perlide.org/irclogs/ and http://irclog.perlgeek.de/padre/today | Pasting: http://scsys.co.uk:8001
14:26 Hyppolit svn: r17375 | waxhead++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17375
14:26 Hyppolit bumping to current dev version
14:26 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Dialog/
14:30 Hyppolit svn: r17376 | waxhead++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17376
14:30 Hyppolit merge -r17340:17371 http://svn.perlide.org/padre/branches/Padre-0.92
14:30 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/share/locale/
14:31 waxhead right, that's about it...
14:31 waxhead I think...
14:31 waxhead just a niggling question about that problem with the permissions on pause...
14:34 Hyppolit svn: r17377 | markd++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17377
14:34 Hyppolit Fix pause indexing
14:34 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/
14:35 waxhead really?? it's fixed?
14:36 waxhead right, I have to go bed now...
14:36 waxhead I'm not alias... :)
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15:53 Hyppolit svn: r17378 | bowtie++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17378
15:53 Hyppolit Added tweaks to Padre-Plugin-PerlCritic
15:53 Hyppolit modified ans added some tests
15:53 Hyppolit bumped internals to plugin interface 0.92
15:53 Hyppolit tested locally, 0.13 is now ready for cpan
15:53 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-PerlCritic/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-PerlCritic/lib/Padre/Plugin/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-PerlCritic/t/
15:54 bowtie azawawi Padre-Plugin-PerlCritic 0.13 ready for you to push to CPAN
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16:15 Hyppolit svn: r17379 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17379
16:15 Hyppolit Update the messages.pot file
16:15 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/share/locale/
16:30 Hyppolit svn: r17380 | ishigaki++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17380
16:30 Hyppolit added japanese translation
16:30 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-XS/share/locale/
16:31 Hyppolit svn: r17381 | ishigaki++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17381
16:31 Hyppolit added japanese translation
16:31 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-WxWidgets/share/locale/
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16:42 Hyppolit svn: r17382 | ishigaki++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17382
16:42 Hyppolit updated japanese translation
16:42 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-PerlTidy/share/locale/
16:52 Hyppolit svn: r17383 | ishigaki++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17383
16:52 Hyppolit added japanese translation
16:52 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-NYTProf/share/locale/
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18:18 Hyppolit svn: r17384 | bowtie++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17384
18:18 Hyppolit Added tweaks to Padre-Plugin-PerlTidy
18:18 Hyppolit bumped internals to plugin interface 0.92
18:18 Hyppolit tested locally, 0.18 is now ready for cpan
18:18 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-PerlTidy/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-PerlTidy/lib/Padre/Plugin/
18:18 bowtie azawawi Padre-Plugin-PerlTidy 0.18 ready for you to push to CPAN
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21:09 Hyppolit svn: r17385 | sblandin++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17385
21:09 Hyppolit Updated Padre Italian translation
21:09 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/share/locale/
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23:15 Hyppolit svn: r17386 | bowtie++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17386
23:15 Hyppolit a bit of a re-factoring, to hopefully improve readability
23:15 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-Debug/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-Debug/l​ib/Padre/Plugin/Debug/FBP/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-Debug/li​b/Padre/Plugin/Debug/Panel/
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23:17 mib_2bqi6u Hi
23:17 mib_2bqi6u Thanks for Padre 0.92
23:17 mib_2bqi6u but I can't change color of the current line after upgrading.
23:18 mib_2bqi6u Always, default yellow color :(
23:20 bowtie mib_2bqi6u, would you like to create a ticket for that?
23:22 Alias It's intentional
23:22 Alias Sort of
23:22 bowtie Alias, hi
23:23 Alias Current line colour is part of Style
23:23 Alias We need the style editor really
23:24 bowtie Alias, I am so happy I don't have to sed dialogs any more now I have 0.92 install locally :)
23:27 mib_2bqi6u hmm, I can't see syntax highlighting clearly with yellow current line background color.
23:28 Alias mib_2bqi6u: Which style?
23:29 mib_2bqi6u and it's somewhat dazzling color.
23:29 mib_2bqi6u I'v chage yellow to bright gray in preference menu before.
23:30 mib_2bqi6u but It's impossible now.
23:30 Alias In the short term, you might need to fork the style

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