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Hyppolit |
svn: r17488 | markd++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17488 |
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Hyppolit |
Allow build with wxWidgets 2.9.x - it all seems to work OK |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Wx-Scintilla/inc/Module/Build/ trunk/Wx-Scintilla/inc/Module/Build/Scintilla/ |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r17489 | markd++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17489 |
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Hyppolit |
OSX dylib name cleanup |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Wx-Scintilla/inc/Module/Build/Scintilla/ |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r17490 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17490 |
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Hyppolit |
Updating design to something more compact |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre-Plugin-FormBuilder/ |
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Alias |
Crap, the new design breaks FBP::Perl |
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Alias |
Which means I've let a major bug slip in |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r17491 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17491 |
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Hyppolit |
Fix class name |
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trunk/Padre/t/ |
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svn: r17492 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17492 |
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Hyppolit |
Adding test script for Padre::MIME, and removing the unknown mime from the registry |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/ trunk/Padre/t/ |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r17493 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17493 |
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Hyppolit |
Not back-compat issue with Padre::MIME |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/ |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r17494 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17494 |
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Hyppolit |
Precalculate the super path for each mime type |
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svn: r17495 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17495 |
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Hyppolit |
More refactoring of Padre::MIME to give it better method names |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Menu/ trunk/Padre/t/ trunk/Padre/xt/ |
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sugar |
hi all |
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sugar |
http://perlide.org/irclogs/ doesn't work |
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* tome |
wishes he could fix that |
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tome |
http://irclog.perlgeek.de/padre/ seems to be working, at least |
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sugar |
tome: thanx, i didnt see second logs in title =) |
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tome |
sure~ where did you get your link from? |
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sugar |
from title of channel |
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sugar |
"Latest Padre is 0.92 - For installation see http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wiki/Download | Log: http://perlide.org/irclogs/ and http://irclog.perlgeek.de/padre/today | Pasting: http://scsys.co.uk:8001". |
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tome |
ah great, as soon as someone with some muscle wakes up they can fix that : ) thanks! |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r17496 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17496 |
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Hyppolit |
Update the messages.pot file |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/share/locale/ |
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sewi_work |
That IRClog-links fail from time to time :-( |
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bowtie |
gm |
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zenog |
hi #padre |
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zenog |
I want to create a CPAN module for (roughly, not exactly) translating C# source code files to Java. How should I call the module? I have not found anything similar, but maybe someone here has a good suggestion for a namespace to use ... |
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zenog |
Java::FromCSharp ? |
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daxim |
Compiler::MonoCS |
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daxim |
→ http://lists.perl.org/list/module-authors.html → #prepan → http://prepan.org |
| 11:43 |
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zenog |
daxim: thx |
| 11:56 |
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zenog |
Alias: The FAQ in Module::Install is outdated: "Module::Install isn't at 1.00 yet, is it safe to use yet?" => it's now at 1.04 |
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El_Che |
zenog: your project works in the correct direction :P |
| 12:05 |
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zenog |
Gtk:ERROR:/build/buildd/gtk+2.0-2.20.1/gtk/gtkfilesystemmodel.c:746:gtk_file_system_model_sort: assertion failed: (r == n_visible_rows) |
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zenog |
El_Che: well, language-wise not. It sucks to go back to Java from C#. For JVM-based stuff, I guess I'll have a look at Scala, which is more expressive; at least I heard so. |
| 12:06 |
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zenog |
El_Che: you may like this: https://github.com/zenogantner/MyMediaLiteJava |
| 12:09 |
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El_Che |
zenog: is c# that much more expressive? |
| 12:10 |
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zenog |
El_Che: yes |
| 12:11 |
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El_Che |
so, what pull you to use java again? |
| 12:11 |
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El_Che |
mono-resistance in de linux world (and irrelevance in the unix world). |
| 12:11 |
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El_Che |
? |
| 12:12 |
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daxim |
I have the same resistance against java |
| 12:12 |
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El_Che |
daxim: not the technical one. The "i don't microsoft"-one |
| 12:12 |
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daxim |
both are risks because they are not open, despite the superficial appearance |
| 12:13 |
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El_Che |
openjdk 7 is there (but true, not the certification suite) |
| 12:13 |
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daxim |
when you don't microsoft, then you certainly don't oracle, |
| 12:13 |
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El_Che |
daxim: but, yes, Oracle is cram (tm) |
| 12:13 |
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El_Che |
crap |
| 12:14 |
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El_Che |
I am opening here some project to migrate some projects to Linux |
| 12:14 |
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daxim |
You see a cram ration here. Picked up a cram ration. Eat what? (q-suxB) The cram ration is bland. |
| 12:14 |
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El_Che |
First thing Oracle did was to kill opensolaris, rise the prices and kill third party support contracts |
| 12:14 |
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zenog |
El_Che: In C#, you have extension methods, _real_ generics, lambda expressions and first-class functions, nicer compatibility between Collections and arrays, less overhead when defining properties, implicit typing, more elegant type inspection etc. |
| 12:14 |
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El_Che |
an yes, also alternative sparc vendors |
| 12:15 |
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zenog |
El_Che: As a language, it feels a bit more Perlish than Java, if one can say this about a statically typed language ;-) |
| 12:15 |
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El_Che |
zenog: java will probably get most of it. It lost a lot of time when SUN stopped investing on it |
| 12:15 |
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zenog |
But politics may be of course a problem. Even though I doubt it is in reality. |
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El_Che |
zenog: I have to see the first mono-based production setup |
| 12:16 |
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zenog |
If one would believe in software patents etc. as a realistic threat, one should not be in the software business. |
| 12:16 |
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El_Che |
zenog: it's about diminishing the risk related to a company that often has estated it wants to kill you |
| 12:17 |
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zenog |
El_Che: btw, the pull to Java is job related, and because some people like to use Java ;-) |
| 12:17 |
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daxim |
still, syntax/verbosity is teh suck™. look at how you do introspection, to pick up a current topic: http://blog.filipekberg.se/201[…]-local-variables/ |
| 12:17 |
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El_Che |
unrelatedly, I wrote java todoy :) |
| 12:17 |
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El_Che |
it was a long time ago |
| 12:17 |
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El_Che |
it took 10m to update my IDE :) |
| 12:19 |
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zenog |
daxim: In C# it is still easier than last time I tried the same with Java. I mean with generics in Java, the types are *gone* at runtime. |
| 12:19 |
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El_Che |
true |
| 12:19 |
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El_Che |
but does it really matter? |
| 12:20 |
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El_Che |
I found generics for collections ok, but everything further than that pretty complicated |
| 12:21 |
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zenog |
El_Che: Yes, collections are by far the most important application of generics; the other use are crazy hacks, which should appeal to Perl people. |
| 12:22 |
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zenog |
El_Che: Problem with Java collections is that they are not so good if you try to do large-scale high performance computing. |
| 12:23 |
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zenog |
El_Che: You have a 100% memory overhead with integers, and 50% with floating points, if you use the collections shipped with Java. |
| 12:23 |
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El_Che |
due to autoboxing? |
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zenog |
Sort of. The stuff is stored in a Object[] array, which contains references to Integer/Double. This means you store those references, which you should not have to. |
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El_Che |
ic |
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zenog |
Autoboxing itself is another thing that may hurt you even when you use things like fastutil which uses primitive types for internal storage. |
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zenog |
Now, this is something you do not have to worry about except if you really have _lots_ of data (close to not fitting into memory any more). |
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zenog |
Other than that, Java is a nice and fast language, with a huge ecosystem and so on ... |
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zenog |
lunch & |
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zenog |
hm, copy-paste on Ubuntu is still somewhat broken. Is this due to the new Wx:.Scintilla? |
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bowtie |
zenog, see #1312 |
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Hyppolit |
# 1312 : Mouse (Ubuntu) Copy Paste X-Clipboard (new defect) by bowtie [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/[…]t/1312#comment:14 ] |
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sugar |
padre is cooler and cooler |
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bowtie |
sugar, have you seen: http://padre.perlide.org/trac/[…]res/Perl5Debugger |
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sugar |
i saw debugger in 0.90, and i liked it |
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sugar |
new looks better =) |
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wiki page http://padre.perlide.org/trac/[…]res/Perl5Debugger changed by bowtie |
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Topic for #padre is now Latest Padre is 0.92 - For installation see http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wiki/Download | Log: http://perlide.org/irclogs/ and http://irclog.perlgeek.de/padre/today | Pasting: http://scsys.co.uk:8001 |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r17497 | submersible_toaster++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17497 |
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Hyppolit |
P-P-OXP |
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Hyppolit |
add reference sheets for oolite galaxies |
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Hyppolit |
update rendering macros. |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre-Plugin-OXP/share/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-OXP/share/oolite/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-OXP/share/povray/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-OXP/share/povray/cm/ |
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Hyppolit |
wiki page http://padre.perlide.org/trac/[…]res/Perl5Debugger changed by bowtie |
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tome |
Hi, earlier sugar noted the channel topic is pointing people to http://perlide.org/irclogs/ which does not work, any chance a mod can fix the topic (or the logs at that location) |
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Topic for #padre is now Latest Padre is 0.92 - For installation see http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wiki/Download | Log: http://irclog.perlgeek.de/padre/today | Pasting: http://scsys.co.uk:8001 |
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El_Che |
thx tome |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r17498 | bowtie++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17498 |
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Hyppolit |
tweaking around with evaluate expresion |
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Hyppolit |
now shows $ @ % in Debug-Output |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Panel/ |
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