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IRC log for #padre, 2011-11-29

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00:54 Art Just installed Padre - how can I see a list of my installed modules?
00:57 Alias Installed plugins?
00:57 Alias Or modules in general
00:57 Art Mods in general
00:58 Alias hrm, I don't think we have a gui for that
00:58 Alias ... yet
01:00 Art OK - Tools / Module Tools / Install CPAN Module closes Padre - am I doing something wrong?
01:01 Alias crap, that would appear to be a bug
01:01 Alias We're still working polishing some stuff to get to 1.0
01:01 Alias Right now, installing modules through Padre direct is probably a bad idea
01:02 Alias There's a "CPAN Explorer" feature going in which will probably replace all that existing stuff
01:02 Art OK - I am brand new at this - Thanks and good night from Portland, Oregon.  Art
01:03 Alias I would use the command line cpan client for now
01:13 Hyppolit wiki page http://padre.perlide.org/trac​/wiki/Features/Perl5Debugger changed by bowtie
01:14 bowtie Alias, hi
01:20 Alias hi
01:22 bowtie Alias, I had another look at refreshing the toolbar icons, but I keep hitting my head and it's starting to hurt now, any ideas besides a guillotine :)
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02:39 Hyppolit svn: r17545 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17545
02:39 Hyppolit - Force upgrades to DBD::SQLite 1.35 and ORLite 1.51 for major performance
02:39 Hyppolit improvements which should make Padre block less (ADAMK)
02:39 Hyppolit - In addition to VACUUM on shutdown, also ANALYZE for a further small
02:39 Hyppolit performance improvement (ADAMK)
02:39 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/
02:43 Hyppolit svn: r17546 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17546
02:43 Hyppolit Remove the old syntax_highlight table and do a precautionary reindex to pick up speed improvements from 3.7.8
02:43 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/DB/
02:44 Hyppolit svn: r17547 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17547
02:44 Hyppolit Keep it in schema 13 till we are sure it is right
02:44 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/DB/
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07:37 Hyppolit svn: r17548 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17548
07:37 Hyppolit Force an upgrade to latest versions of DBD::SQLite and ORLite in Makefile.PL
07:37 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/
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08:10 azawawi szabgab: ping
08:10 azawawi hi #padre
08:11 szabgab hi azawawi
08:11 azawawi who is the cold weather? :)
08:11 azawawi s/who/how/ :)
08:12 * azawawi is still sleepy
08:12 szabgab its better now but yesterday I was freezing in my room :)
08:12 azawawi yeah it is cold
08:12 azawawi Perl Maven
08:12 szabgab but they are warming it up in the north :(
08:13 azawawi "...The word maven comes from Hebrew, via Yiddish, and means one who understands, based on an accumulation of knowledge..."
08:13 azawawi hmmm
08:13 szabgab yeah, I liked that part too :0
08:14 szabgab but I first heard the English version of the word a few month ago in some american blog
08:14 szabgab "Mevin" in Hebrew
08:14 szabgab מבין
08:14 azawawi I assume that you're not going to be active in Padre? :)
08:15 szabgab I don't think I'll have a lot of time for it in the near future
08:15 szabgab and as we talked last time, I am a bit disappointed
08:15 szabgab or set back
08:15 szabgab or I don't know how to call it
08:15 szabgab that does not help either
08:16 azawawi hmm
08:16 szabgab but it seems you guys are having fun
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08:16 azawawi yeah a bit
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08:16 azawawi im trying to move the community around it
08:16 azawawi by doing a lots of changes
08:16 azawawi but so far i dont see momentum since Padre 0.92
08:17 szabgab Once I made some progress with my video courses I'll turn my attention to creating distributions again
08:17 mib_pr3cro hi there. tried to install padre on windows but i only got the old Version 842
08:17 azawawi mib_pr3cro: strawberry perl?
08:17 Hyppolit Changeset #3 http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/3
08:18 mib_pr3cro azawawi: yes
08:18 mib_pr3cro after trying an update via command-line "cpan install Padre" the new version has been downlaoded but it is not installed
08:18 azawawi mib_pr3cro: which perl?
08:18 Hyppolit Changeset #3 http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/3
08:18 azawawi mib_pr3cro: perl -v
08:18 Hyppolit Changeset #3 http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/3
08:19 sewi_work Hi mib_pr3cro, you may type "/nick roman" to change your nick :)
08:19 Hyppolit Changeset #3 http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/3
08:19 mib_pr3cro This is perl 5, version 14, subversion 1 (v5.14.1) built for MSWin32-x64-multi-t hread
08:19 azawawi szabgab: what's up with Hyppolit ?
08:19 sewi_work azawawi: Hyppolit is allright, but mibbit issued a nick with "r 3" in it :)
08:20 szabgab now I get a dbd exception when closing padre:
08:20 szabgab DBD::SQLite::db do failed: near "ANAYLZE": syntax error at (eval 1838) line 36 (#1
08:20 Hyppolit # 1 :  Improve load time (closed defect) by szabgab  [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/1#comment:5 ]
08:20 szabgab Hyppolit shut up!
08:21 Roman Here is my cpan-log:
08:21 Roman Could not make: Unknown error Running make test   Can't test without successful make Running make install   Make had returned bad status, install seems impossible Running make for P/PL/PLAVEN/Padre-0.92.tar.gz Warning: Prerequisite 'Alien::wxWidgets => 0.46' for 'PLAVEN/Padre-0.92.tar.gz' failed when processing 'MDOOTSON/Alien-wxWidgets-0.54.tar.gz' with 'mak
08:21 azawawi Roman: cpan Alien::wxWidgets
08:21 azawawi Roman: and then cpan Padre
08:22 azawawi Roman: Alien::wxWidgets downloads wxWidgets from the web... maybe it got dc and processed a wrong archive
08:22 azawawi Roman: other than that im running Padre 0.92 on perl 5.14.2
08:23 Roman Could not make: Unknown error
08:23 Roman ^^
08:23 azawawi Roman: listen
08:23 azawawi Roman: cpan App::cpanminus
08:23 azawawi Roman: and then 'cpanm Padre'
08:25 azawawi Roman: do you have a fast internet connection?
08:25 Roman yes
08:25 azawawi cool
08:25 Roman okay i have installed App::cpanminus and Alien::exWidgets
08:25 azawawi szabgab: how can i update the existing padre?
08:25 azawawi szabgab: the distro part
08:25 szabgab azawawi: what do you mean?
08:26 azawawi szabgab: Padre on strawberry
08:26 szabgab the "Padre on Strawberry" distro?
08:26 azawawi yup
08:26 szabgab I am building a new thing
08:26 szabgab will be called "Dwimper"
08:26 szabgab Dwimperl
08:26 szabgab just to have a separat nam
08:26 szabgab name
08:27 szabgab I was almost ready when I noticed the Strawberry 5.14 is about to be released
08:27 Roman Running make test   Make had some problems, won't test
08:27 szabgab so I postponed
08:27 Roman Running make install   Make had some problems, won't install
08:27 szabgab maybe I should release it this way anyway
08:28 azawawi Roman: could you paste all the log using http://scsys.co.uk:8001
08:28 azawawi szabgab: yeah
08:28 azawawi szabgab: let us stay pragmatic a bit :)
08:28 szabgab which means in this case?
08:28 azawawi build and ship it :)
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08:29 szabgab sure but it is about 2 days work for me :)
08:29 szabgab or maybe more
08:29 azawawi i'll help
08:29 shadowpaste "Roman" at 217.168.150.38 pasted "Padre install on windows" (300 lines) at http://paste.scsys.co.uk/163199
08:29 azawawi please let me know what to do
08:29 szabgab would you want to make a design for the web site
08:29 szabgab ?
08:29 azawawi no :)
08:30 azawawi im interested in getting padre 0.92 on strawberry
08:30 szabgab can you help kicking the 5.14 out the door?
08:30 szabgab then we can start building this one
08:30 azawawi Roman: 64-bit?
08:30 Roman yes
08:31 szabgab I basically take a Strawberry and cpan install everything one by one (!)
08:31 szabgab and after each install I commit to git
08:31 szabgab azawawi: https://github.com/dwimperl
08:31 azawawi strawberry basic
08:31 azawawi + padre
08:31 azawawi keep it simple :)
08:31 szabgab + Moose
08:32 azawawi Roman: my guess is to install the 32-bit binaries even on 64-bit
08:32 Roman okay i will give it a try
08:33 azawawi cool
08:35 Roman you got a tip for me which perl i should install?
08:36 azawawi http://strawberry-perl.googlecode.com/f​iles/strawberry-perl-5.14.2.0-32bit.msi
08:36 azawawi go for it
08:36 azawawi im using it
08:36 azawawi on windows 7
08:37 szabgab azawawi: if you'd like to build a Dwimperl for Windows with just Padre, be my guest
08:37 azawawi you installed it to C:\Perl64 ?
08:37 azawawi Roman: ?
08:37 szabgab I can create you a repo in that project
08:37 szabgab and add you as a member
08:37 azawawi sure
08:37 azawawi add me
08:37 szabgab but I won't have time for it in the next few days for sure
08:37 szabgab as I would like to make progress with my video classes
08:37 azawawi Roman: i bet the C:\Strawberry -> C:\Perl64 is the culprit to all your problems
08:38 szabgab so I can start to sell them
08:38 * azawawi is learning Haskell
08:40 * azawawi perlbrew install perl-5.15.5
08:41 szabgab github drives me crazy currently
08:42 szabgab how can I add members to an organization?
08:49 Roman okay i am installing strawberry at the moment
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08:51 azawawi szabgab: i should work with kmx on improving Padre on strawberry
08:51 azawawi szabgab: since kmx is now the maintainer of the strawberry perl instead of curtis
08:51 szabgab azawawi: that would be awesome
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08:51 szabgab and make an official release of the 5.14
08:51 azawawi yeah
08:52 szabgab and then I'll build the dwimmer package
08:52 szabgab I just created a repo: https://github.com/dwimperl​/perl-5.14.2.0-32bit-win32
08:53 azawawi szabgab: i see you're using git
08:53 azawawi szabgab: port Padre to git? :)
08:53 sugar git is good =)
08:53 azawawi sugar: how is the version control git... is it useful?
08:54 azawawi sugar: in padre that is
08:55 szabgab azawawi: not now :)
08:55 sugar hmm... i have worked with git for a year, and i am comfortable with it
08:56 sugar azawawi: but i didn't worrked with svn, and do not know what is better to use
08:56 azawawi sugar: padre and svn?
08:57 azawawi sugar: i read a while back that you tried "version control" in Padre
08:57 azawawi sugar: i just needed some feedback
08:58 sugar azawawi: oh, sorry, i didn't understand, i like it, it shows real git status in a file
08:58 Roman after the install my cpan still refers to c:\Perl64
08:58 azawawi Roman: hmm
08:59 azawawi Roman: echo %PATH%
08:59 Roman C:\Program Files (x86)\AMD APP\bin\x86_64;C:\Program Files (x86)\AMD APP\bin\x86 ;C:\Perl64\site\bin;C:\Perl64\bin;C:\Win​dows\system32;C:\Windows;C:\Windows\Syst em32\Wbem;C:\Windows\System32\Wi​ndowsPowerShell\v1.0\;C:\Program Files\ThinkPad\ Bluetooth Software\;C:\Program Files\ThinkPad\Bluetooth Software\syswow64;C:\Pro gram Files (x86)\ATI Technologies\ATI
08:59 Roman missing more than the half
08:59 Roman strawberry is listed
08:59 azawawi Roman: 1. remove C:\Perl64
08:59 Roman C:\Strawberry\perl\site\bin;C:\Strawberry\c\bin
08:59 azawawi Roman: 2. uninstall strawberry
08:59 sugar azawawi: but in some cases it doesn't show all status of editing file, only part of it
08:59 azawawi Roman: 3. Remove C:\Strawberry
09:00 azawawi Roman: 4. install Strawberry :)
09:00 Roman okay - then i have to do it later
09:00 Roman no spare time at the moment
09:00 azawawi Roman: or...
09:00 Roman but i will give it a try later
09:00 Roman thanks for your help
09:00 azawawi Roman: use Padre on strawberry
09:00 Roman have to work now ;)
09:00 azawawi cool... thanks i'll be around
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11:35 azawawi Alias: ping
11:35 azawawi Alias: the new ORLite seems to break Padre 0.92
11:37 azawawi newer installs of Padre will probably fail
11:38 azawawi Schema user_version mismatch (got 13, wanted 12)
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11:39 bowtie gm
11:40 azawawi hi bowtie
11:40 azawawi and gm
11:40 bowtie azawawi, are you well
11:41 azawawi yeah but been very busy at house chores...
11:41 azawawi and last week at work, i worked on a reporting website
11:41 azawawi with 20+ reports
11:42 azawawi hence no time to do anything
11:42 bowtie azawawi, good, looking after No1
11:42 azawawi yeah
11:44 bowtie azawawi, do we control focus of a panel, ie which panel to make visible over others
11:47 bowtie azawawi, oops should have started with how, silly me
13:01 azawawi Alias: DBD::SQLite is not compiled to enable ANALYZE? http://www.sqlite.org/compile.html#enable_stat3
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13:06 charsbar_ ANALYZE should be available, but yes, enable_stat3 flag is not set now
13:13 azawawi Padre does a vacuum analyze
13:17 charsbar_ looking...
13:18 charsbar_ seems working for a test database
13:19 charsbar_ anyway, trunk version has enable_stat3 flag
13:23 azawawi analyze fails with the following message on Padre shutdown "DBD::SQLite::db do failed: near "ANAYLZE": syntax error at (eval 1837) line 36."
13:23 azawawi i remember that Alias wanted me to VACUUM and then ANALYZE Padre's ORLite database
13:24 azawawi to keep things fast
13:30 charsbar_ hmm. tested ORLite (with 2 vacuum analyze cleanups) and passed.
13:31 azawawi padre trunk
13:31 azawawi perl dev
13:32 azawawi repeatable everytime
13:34 charsbar_ wait a bit; installing things
13:56 Hyppolit svn: r17549 | ishigaki++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17549
13:56 Hyppolit fixed analyze typo
13:56 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/
13:57 charsbar_ got it. just a typo.
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19:57 chorny Padre 0.92 sometimes exists when I'm pressing Ctrl-L/R arrow several times. No errors in the console. How can I find out where error is?
19:58 chorny Windows XP
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21:18 Hyppolit svn: r17550 | submersible_toaster++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17550
21:18 Hyppolit updated templates for texturing
21:18 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-OXP/share/povray/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-OXP/share/povray/cm/
21:21 bowtie submersible_toaster, hi
21:21 bowtie submersible_toaster, any ideas as to how to use theme colours in a panel?
21:34 submersible_toaster bowtie:  nope other than theming the base class or subclass in themes/ it looks like a no hoper
21:35 bowtie submersible_toaster, thanks, I will ask Alias
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22:11 Hyppolit wiki page http://padre.perlide.org/trac​/wiki/Features/Perl5Debugger changed by bowtie
22:29 Hyppolit wiki page http://padre.perlide.org/trac​/wiki/Features/Perl5Debugger changed by bowtie
23:07 Hyppolit wiki page http://padre.perlide.org/trac​/wiki/Features/Perl5Debugger changed by bowtie
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