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IRC log for #padre, 2011-12-01

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00:16 Hyppolit wiki page http://padre.perlide.org/trac​/wiki/Features/Perl5Debugger changed by bowtie
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01:14 Hyppolit svn: r17564 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17564
01:14 Hyppolit Spelling
01:14 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/
01:15 Hyppolit svn: r17565 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17565
01:15 Hyppolit Adding $COMPATIBLE to Padre::Unload
01:15 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/
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02:01 Hyppolit svn: r17566 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17566
02:01 Hyppolit Updating to FBP::Perl and partly getting shims working
02:01 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-FormBuilder/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-FormBuilder/lib/Padre/Plugin/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-FormBuilder​/lib/Padre/Plugin/FormBuilder/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-FormBuilder/t/
02:07 Alias well, SORT of working
02:19 Hyppolit svn: r17567 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17567
02:19 Hyppolit Pass the shim value through to the generator
02:19 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-FormBuilder​/lib/Padre/Plugin/FormBuilder/
02:52 Hyppolit svn: r17568 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17568
02:52 Hyppolit Slight code change to make methods detectable
02:52 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Dialog/
02:54 Hyppolit svn: r17569 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17569
02:54 Hyppolit Padre::Wx::Editor now needs an explicit ->Show(1) to prevent layout glitches. Adding it for the one in the Preferences dialog.
02:54 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Dialog/
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04:16 Hyppolit svn: r17570 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17570
04:16 Hyppolit Update the messages.pot file
04:16 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/share/locale/
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04:28 Hyppolit svn: r17571 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17571
04:28 Hyppolit Completed support for generating several files at once into editors.
04:28 Hyppolit
04:28 Hyppolit There is still a remaining bug where files aren't saved because Padre can't handle the idea that a newly generated file could have a future filename allocated to it before it has been saved.
04:28 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-FormBuilder/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-FormBuilder​/lib/Padre/Plugin/FormBuilder/
04:29 Alias Generating entire distributions is starting to get pretty close now :)
04:34 Alias And slowly but surely the internal APIs of Padre are improving so that getting the plugin to manipulate Padre the way I want is relatively straight forward
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06:10 Hyppolit svn: r17572 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17572
06:11 Hyppolit Documented the text_* methods
06:11 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/
06:23 Hyppolit svn: r17573 | Sewi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17573
06:23 Hyppolit Clean up menu a little bit
06:23 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Menu/
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08:02 azawawi hi #padre
08:02 azawawi Alias: ping
08:03 shadowpaste "azawawi" at 217.168.150.38 pasted "Padre.bat failure since schema upgrade" (14 lines) at http://paste.scsys.co.uk/163655
08:16 Hyppolit svn: r17574 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17574
08:16 Hyppolit Update the messages.pot file
08:16 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/share/locale/
08:23 sugar azawawi: hi
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08:32 azawawi sugar: hi
08:43 Hyppolit svn: r17575 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17575
08:43 Hyppolit First attempt at updating Padre::Plugin::Mojolicious to work with Padre 0.92
08:43 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-Mojolicious/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-Mojolicious/lib/Padre/Plugin/
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08:47 Hyppolit svn: r17576 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17576
08:47 Hyppolit Fixed t/00-compile.t to work under no $ENV{DISPLAY}
08:47 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-Mojolicious/t/
08:50 Hyppolit svn: r17577 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17577
08:50 Hyppolit Perl tidy stuff a bit and it now depends on stable Padre 0.92
08:50 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-Mojolicious/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-Mojolicious/lib/Padre/Plugin/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-Mojolicious/t/
08:56 Hyppolit svn: r17578 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17578
08:56 Hyppolit Fix Class::Unload -> Padre::Unload and updated Changes in Mojolicious Plugin
08:56 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-Mojolicious/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-Mojolicious/lib/Padre/Plugin/
09:00 Hyppolit svn: r17579 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17579
09:00 Hyppolit Added the generic t/00-compile.t that was already there in the dzilla days
09:00 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-Mojolicious/t/
09:10 Hyppolit svn: r17580 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17580
09:10 Hyppolit POD and translation messages fixes for Padre's Mojolicious support plugin
09:10 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-Mojolicious/lib/Padre/Plugin/
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09:13 Hyppolit svn: r17581 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17581
09:13 Hyppolit Update Mojolicious online references
09:13 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-Mojolicious/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-Mojolicious/lib/Padre/Plugin/
09:16 Hyppolit svn: r17582 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17582
09:16 Hyppolit Added Mojolicious to the list of Padre Community support IRC Channels
09:16 Hyppolit trunk/template.padre.perlid​e.org/documentroot/static/
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09:29 bowtie gm
09:29 sugar azawawi: any patches for changing fonts? or it needs a ticket?
09:32 azawawi ticket :)
09:32 azawawi i have not investigated it yet
09:32 azawawi the problem is that im not 100% free to work on Padre like before
09:33 azawawi Alias: fix those test warnings or... :)
09:35 Hyppolit # 1298 :  Changing font in preferences is not applied to existing editors (new defect) by bowtie  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1298#comment:1 ]
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09:41 bowtie azawawi, ping
09:47 azawawi bowtie: pong
09:50 marcela azawawi: hi, do you have a minute?
09:50 bowtie azawawi, have you time for some questions
09:50 azawawi marcela: sure
09:50 azawawi bowtie: sure :)
09:50 marcela bowtie: was first, I'll wait
09:51 bowtie marcela, I will wait, ask away
09:51 marcela :)
09:51 marcela azawawi: I'm trying package Wx::Scintilla
09:51 marcela azawawi: there will be licensing issues
09:51 azawawi marcela: like?
09:52 marcela azawawi: the directory wx-scintilla is bundled from some other project?
09:52 marcela Fedora has strict rules about not bundling software :(
09:53 azawawi downloading it like Alien::wxWidgets?
09:54 marcela hm and another thing there is file Wx-Scintilla-0.34/wx-scint​illa/include/WxScintilla.h which is licensed under wxWindows license
09:56 azawawi fedora bundling rules plz :)
09:56 marcela and rest is under MIT, which is good, but this one file probably want be good
09:57 marcela azawawi: ok, I'll look on progress of update in other distributions ;-)
09:57 azawawi btw that file was in Alien::wxWidgets
09:57 marcela thanks, I'll look on it
09:57 azawawi downloaded gzipped tar...
09:58 marcela azawawi: I know "bundling" is good for you, when you want sw for Windows/Linux
09:58 marcela azawawi: but not so good for packagers
09:58 azawawi i see
09:59 marcela I'll look at it more, but this is making packaging slower
09:59 azawawi what about http://svn.perlide.org/padre/trunk/Wx-Scint​illa/wx-scintilla/src/scintilla/License.txt ?
09:59 marcela one license for all files will also help
09:59 azawawi i see
09:59 marcela you can't relicense file ;-)
10:00 marcela Sadly, the part in header is more important than License.txt
10:00 azawawi so how can we fix that?
10:00 azawawi recommendations?
10:01 marcela sometimes are the same headers licensed under different licenses, so the easiest is find the same header under good license
10:02 azawawi WxScintilla.h has been modified a lot :)
10:02 azawawi i have no problem implementing it myself
10:03 azawawi since it has really a lot of legacy bad stuff
10:03 marcela so it looks like that wxWindows is some kind of GPLv2, so it's probably good
10:03 azawawi yup
10:04 azawawi marcela: ok let me know what needs to be changed
10:04 azawawi marcela: i need to go for lunch break right now
10:04 azawawi marcela: let us do a discussion on Padre mailing list
10:04 marcela azawawi: it looks like I will need exception for packaging, I'll let you know
10:04 marcela thanks
10:05 azawawi cool
10:05 azawawi thanks and hopefully Padre on Fedora will soon be a reality
10:05 * azawawi lunch &
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11:06 Hyppolit wiki page http://padre.perlide.org/trac​/wiki/Features/Perl5Debugger changed by bowtie
11:12 Hyppolit # 1357 :  "Debugger" menu is shown for non-Perl files (assigned defect) by bowtie  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1357#comment:7 ]
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11:20 Hyppolit # 812 :  Win32::GUI programs require 'external window' option (closed defect) by bowtie  [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/812#comment:2 ]
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11:33 Hyppolit # 1211 :  Hot keys for Debug do not work (new defect) by bowtie  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1211#comment:2 ]
11:37 Hyppolit wiki page http://padre.perlide.org/trac​/wiki/Features/Perl5Debugger changed by bowtie
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11:47 azawawi bowtie: ping
11:47 azawawi bowtie: the question is why does wx application require that on win32?
11:48 * azawawi fixes Mojolicious plugin
11:51 Hyppolit svn: r17583 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17583
11:51 Hyppolit Added Padre-Plugin-Mojolicious.fbp
11:51 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-Mojolicious/
12:00 Hyppolit svn: r17584 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17584
12:00 Hyppolit Added proper FBP design for the ::NewApp dialog
12:00 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-Mojolicious/
12:13 bowtie azawawi, ping
12:13 bowtie azawawi,
12:13 bowtie 1, do you know how I can force Padre to reload toolbar icons, so that the three new Debug2 icons display correctly with out use intervention.
12:13 bowtie 2, how do I change focus on a panel in Output area ie screen bottom, I want the Debug-Output to stay focused, just like when we use an external display
12:13 bowtie 3, I think ticket #1084 is now feasible, due to your Wx::Scintilla work
12:13 Hyppolit # 1084 :  Tooltip expression evaluation (new enhancement) by szabgab  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1084#comment:1 ]
12:21 Hyppolit svn: r17585 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17585
12:21 Hyppolit Migrating to new FBP-based New Application dialog in Mojolicious dialog
12:21 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-Mojolicious/lib/Padre/Plugin/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-Mojolicious​/lib/Padre/Plugin/Mojolicious/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-Mojolicious/l​ib/Padre/Plugin/Mojolicious/FBP/
12:48 Hyppolit svn: r17586 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17586
12:48 Hyppolit Mojolicious plugin now works :)
12:48 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-Mojolicious/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-Mojolicious/lib/Padre/Plugin/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-Mojolicious​/lib/Padre/Plugin/Mojolicious/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-Mojolicious/l​ib/Padre/Plugin/Mojolicious/FBP/
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13:00 azawawi cpanm http://cpan.metacpan.org/authors/id/A/AZ/AZ​AWAWI/Padre-Plugin-Mojolicious-0.06.tar.gz
13:02 Hyppolit svn: r17587 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17587
13:02 Hyppolit Updated Changes
13:02 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-Mojolicious/
13:07 bowtie azawawi, Q your MoJo pluging dose not create a padre.yml file or Makefile hence when you go to view the wonderful creation Project panel dose not reflect this
13:08 azawawi bowtie: im maintaining it :)
13:08 azawawi bowtie: and...
13:08 azawawi bowtie: padre-0.92 is broken due to newly uploaded dependencies
13:09 azawawi bowtie: im investigating what's the problem
13:12 azawawi DBD::SQLite, ORLite::Migrate, ORLite...
13:15 azawawi bowtie: i installed the new stuff for Padre 0.93
13:15 azawawi bowtie: the new dependencies
13:16 azawawi bowtie: i think we broke padre 0.92 while developing padre 0.93
13:16 azawawi bowtie: if that's the case, then we're in a very bad situation :)
13:17 bowtie azawawi, what action is causing this to happen, I will try to replicate here
13:18 azawawi padre 0.93 cpan . # to install all deps
13:18 azawawi then cpanm Padre
13:18 azawawi bye bye Padre
13:18 shadowpaste "azawawi" at 217.168.150.38 pasted "Schema user_version mismatch in cpanm Padre # 0.92" (24 lines) at http://paste.scsys.co.uk/163675
13:19 bowtie azawawi, is that not the same as "perl Makefile.PL && make "
13:19 azawawi bowtie: yeah install missing dependencies
13:20 azawawi bowtie: after installing new dependencies, cpanm padre # stable padre 0.92 ... fails to install
13:21 azawawi https://metacpan.org/source/PLAVE​N/Padre-0.92/lib/Padre/DB.pm#L25
13:22 azawawi hmmm
13:22 azawawi i think the new Padre 0.93 corrupts old .local/share/.padre
13:23 azawawi hmmm
13:23 azawawi corrupted padre db directory
13:23 bowtie azawawi, so it's nothing to do with removing one of the DB and changes to DB code then
13:25 Hyppolit svn: r17588 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17588
13:25 Hyppolit Added padre.yml to Padre-Plugin-Mojolicious bowtie++
13:25 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-Mojolicious/
13:25 azawawi installing latest deps to make sure
13:31 azawawi bowtie: good then it is a corrupted database ... my bad :)
13:32 bowtie azawawi, it's at moments like this, that we british would say it's time for a cup of tea :)
13:36 azawawi btw i dont drink tea or coffee anymore :)
13:37 azawawi reducing my intake from these drinks
13:38 bowtie azawawi, just fresh spring water now?
13:38 azawawi yup
13:38 azawawi hot+cold
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14:05 shadowpaste "bowtie" at 217.168.150.38 pasted "azawawi, a tweak for you p-p-mojo now loads and unloads in 0.92 and 0.93" (54 lines) at http://paste.scsys.co.uk/163677
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14:25 Hyppolit svn: r17589 | zipf++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17589
14:25 Hyppolit Updated Spanish translation - Untested
14:25 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/share/locale/
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14:49 Hyppolit svn: r17590 | bowtie++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17590
14:49 Hyppolit added focus to debug-output
14:49 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Panel/
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19:58 bowtie Alias++
19:58 bowtie P-P-FormBuilder works, looks great, just one question what is a dialog shim subclass, whats it used for?
20:02 bowtie Alias, I tried the following in Padre::Wx::Main to no avail
20:02 bowtie Padre::Current->config->set( main_toolbar_items => undef ); #I think
20:02 bowtie any further ideas as to how we force a tool-bar reload for icon additions/deletions
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21:49 Hyppolit svn: r17591 | submersible_toaster++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17591
21:49 Hyppolit P-P-OXP factor out some macros
21:49 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-OXP/share/povray/cm/
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22:34 Hyppolit svn: r17592 | submersible_toaster++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17592
22:34 Hyppolit P-P-OXP .. finish of more of the templating.
22:34 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-OXP/share/povray/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-OXP/share/povray/cm/
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22:45 mib_v5tkbj I had a question about problems installing a Padre plugin after having successfully installed Padre under Strawberry Perl.
22:48 mib_v5tkbj I'm a newbie, so there may be a simple reason.  My apologies it I'm missing something simple.
22:49 mib_v5tkbj I tried to install a plugin for Mojolicious, which triggered an update of Padre, which triggered an update of Wx and Wx::Scintilla - best I could tell.
22:50 mib_v5tkbj The install for Wx failed badly and so did the install for Wx::Scintilla as part of the install of dependencies.  I then tried to install those mods separately, but they failed the same way.
22:51 mib_v5tkbj I'm wondering how to determine a next step?
22:51 bowtie mib_v5tkbj, you need to talk to azawawi as he is developing this plugin at present, he will be around in about 8 hours, his time is gmt +3
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22:52 mib_v5tkbj Ok, I'll try again sometime then.  Thanks.
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