Camelia, the Perl 6 bug

IRC log for #padre, 2011-12-21

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01:46 Hyppolit svn: r17740 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17740
01:46 Hyppolit Don't save search on every keystroke
01:46 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Dialog/
01:54 Hyppolit svn: r17741 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17741
01:54 Hyppolit Hide the syntax check icon when disabling the entire view
01:54 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/
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03:58 noidea hey I'm new to perl. I was wondering if its possible to move the function column to the left of the text box
04:00 PerlJam noidea: I don't think so.
04:00 PerlJam the layout of the windows seems fixed for now.
04:01 noidea :(
04:01 noidea Thanks for the reply
04:02 PerlJam But I haven't explored it in depth.
04:02 noidea I've just been used to having the function list on the left for years with different editors, etc. Mainly Simba a pascalscript interpreter editor thing.
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04:09 PerlJam supposedly you can go under View and uncheck "Lock User Interface" and move stuff around, then lock it again.  I never have gotten that to work right for me.
04:10 PerlJam (but again, I haven't tried very hard)
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04:17 Hyppolit svn: r17742 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17742
04:17 Hyppolit Update the messages.pot file
04:17 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/share/locale/
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04:45 Alias noidea: It's fixed for now
04:45 Alias noidea: Changing it would require a fairly large refactoring of the way that we do panels
04:54 noidea mmm I see
04:55 Alias No a completely massive one, necesarily
04:55 Alias Not
04:55 Alias But we're in the final clean up run for 1.0 now, and this isn't the right time
04:56 noidea Oke
04:56 Alias In particular, dragging it is a nightmare
04:56 Alias Some platforms crash and burn
04:56 Alias GTK in particular I think
04:56 Alias However...
04:57 Alias As a one-time fix specifically for you
04:58 Alias Find the installed file Main.pm which contains the package Padre::Wx::Main
04:58 Alias Then look down a couple of thousand lines for "sub _show_functions {"
04:58 Alias And change the two instances of the word "right" to "left"
04:58 Alias And that should change it for you
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09:22 Hyppolit svn: r17743 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17743
09:22 Hyppolit Remove strange svn properties in 98_debug_debugger.t and fix unix eol warnings
09:22 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/t/
09:23 Hyppolit svn: r17744 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17744
09:23 Hyppolit Fix errors from xt/copyright.t and xt/eol.t under RELEASE_TESTING=1
09:23 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/ComboBox/
09:31 Hyppolit svn: r17745 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17745
09:31 Hyppolit Added svn:eol-style=LF on all of t/ and removed mimetype
09:31 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/t/
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11:46 Hyppolit svn: r17746 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17746
11:46 Hyppolit Adding SVN test
11:46 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/t/
11:49 bowtie azawawi, why have you removed "Property svn:mime-type set to text/x-perl" for a test files, now all test files show up as black on white in trac browser code rather than in colour as per user choice?
11:50 bowtie azawawi, see: http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wiki/SvnMimeTypes
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12:10 Hyppolit svn: r17747 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17747
12:10 Hyppolit Released 0.35_05 as stable 0.36 (Scintilla 3.0.2 is here!)
12:10 Hyppolit trunk/Wx-Scintilla/ trunk/Wx-Scintilla/lib/Wx/ trunk/Wx-Scintilla/lib/Wx/Scintilla/
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12:11 azawawi bowtie: hi :)
12:11 azawawi my 6th sense told me you want to talk to me :)
12:12 bowtie azawawi, hi, I am getting over a cold and my brain is starting to work again, besides that how are you :)
12:13 azawawi still in hibernation mode
12:13 bowtie azawawi, so how cold is it there now :)
12:18 azawawi normal
12:18 azawawi 14 c nothing...
12:20 * azawawi test Wx::Scintilla 0.36
12:22 bowtie azawawi, have you released  Wx::Scintilla 0.36 to cpan?
12:22 azawawi testing it for actual release
12:23 azawawi ./Build test running :)
12:23 bowtie azawawi, in trunk,
12:24 azawawi ok sent to CPAN
12:25 azawawi padre -> CPAN explorer -> Recent -> install Wx::Scintilla :)
12:26 azawawi no more typing of stupid stuff
12:26 azawawi ofcourse remember to close padre
12:26 azawawi on win32 to do the actual install
12:27 azawawi cpanm http://cpan.metacpan.org/authors/id/A​/AZ/AZAWAWI/Wx-Scintilla-0.36.tar.gz
12:27 bowtie azawawi, when we install using this method, should we not have -v set when in beginner mode
12:27 bowtie padre -> CPAN explorer -> Recent -> install Wx::Scintilla :)
12:27 azawawi re "why have you removed "Property svn:mime-type set to text/x-perl"
12:28 azawawi i want to make eol => UNIX
12:28 azawawi since native makes problems when commiting on win32
12:28 azawawi e.g.
12:28 azawawi Alias++ usually commits stuff from win32
12:28 azawawi me 2
12:29 azawawi and 'native' does not show anything when you convert from win32 => LF in padre...
12:29 azawawi 'svn status' returns nothing
12:29 azawawi im fine with the x-perl thing
12:29 azawawi it is 'native' that i hate :)
12:29 bowtie azawawi, yes, but you can have line type and a mime-type
12:30 azawawi i just told you what happened to me today :)
12:30 bowtie but the native issue is due to either os or svn app I think
12:30 azawawi i converted stuff committing as win32 ending
12:30 azawawi to unix ending
12:30 azawawi and svn st returned nothing
12:31 bowtie azawawi, ok, so it's the lack of svn st, that you wish to force a response to
12:32 azawawi if i convert something from format A to B
12:32 azawawi svn st should tell me something changed
12:32 azawawi right?
12:32 azawawi and another issue
12:32 azawawi i upgrade to perl-5.15.6 today
12:32 azawawi and Debug::Client croaked on installation
12:33 bowtie azawawi, just for you Wx...
12:33 bowtie Wx 0.9903
12:33 bowtie WxWidgets 2.8.11
12:33 bowtie unicode 1
12:33 bowtie Alien::wxWidgets 0.54
12:33 sugar hi guyes
12:33 azawawi sugar: hi
12:33 sugar what about #1298?
12:33 Hyppolit # 1298 :  Changing font in preferences is not applied to existing editors (new defect) by sugar  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1298#comment:2 ]
12:34 bowtie azawawi, thanks for that, I will set perlbrew going again
12:34 * azawawi runs Debug::Client on perl-5.15.6
12:34 * sugar requests bugfix of #1298
12:34 azawawi sugar: sure
12:35 bowtie azawawi, can you try with debug-client 0.17_02 as api works against 0.16 please, but tests are different
12:35 azawawi bowtie: same
12:35 azawawi bowtie: i tried both ... both croak without forcing them
12:35 sugar if any testings needed - i will be here
12:35 bowtie azawawi, can you nopast test failure please
12:36 azawawi bowtie: trying to uninstall it :)
12:36 azawawi bowtie: cpanm App::pmuninstall fails because YAML fails to install on perl-5.15.6
12:37 bowtie azawawi, just run prove -lv against debug-client in trunk then
12:39 * azawawi runs prove -bv >debug-client-prove-output.txt 2>&1
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12:41 azawawi search.cpan.org seems to have connection problems today
12:42 bowtie azawawi, are you going to past the failure for me please
12:42 azawawi sure
12:44 shadowpaste "azawawi" at 217.168.150.38 pasted "prove -bv >debug-client-prove-output.txt 2>&1" (655 lines) at http://paste.scsys.co.uk/169061
12:44 azawawi Debug::Client: Line is undef. Buffer is  at t/02-sub.t line xxxx
12:45 zenog hey #padre
12:45 azawawi zenog: yo
12:47 bowtie azawawi, thanks for that, 0.16, can you also paste 0.17_02 as I have made various changes to the test system please
12:48 azawawi bowtie: that's trunk btw
12:48 azawawi bowtie: you need 0.16?
12:48 azawawi interesting https://metacpan.org/module/DROLS​KY/perl-5.15.6/pod/perldelta.pod
12:54 bowtie azawawi, thanks for that, I am half way to pushing 0.17_03, but I will wait until I have 5-16-6 running to see these lovely errors, thanks vmuch :)
13:06 Hyppolit svn: r17748 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17748
13:06 Hyppolit Finished basic parser for svn prop files
13:06 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/ trunk/Padre/t/
13:19 mj41 At revision 17748. ... Uncaught exception from user code:
13:19 mj41 Can't call method "SetFocus" on an undefined value at /home/mj/devel/padre-src/Padre/​lib/Padre/Wx/Dialog/Replace.pm line 154.
13:19 mj41 at /home/mj/devel/padre-src/Padre/lib/Padre.pm line 262
13:20 mj41 I did replace and then pres ESC (or CANCEL).
13:28 zenog It is in German, but if some German speaking Padre people are at 28C3: http://events.ccc.de/congress/20​11/Fahrplan/events/4722.de.html
13:31 azawawi bowtie++
13:31 azawawi # debugger 2.0
13:31 azawawi bowtie: we need to move away from perl debug commands though
13:31 azawawi bowtie: make it easier
13:31 azawawi bowtie: why do i need to now padre is doing s expr or something
13:32 azawawi bowtie: the objective is to virtualize and simplify these things
13:36 bowtie azawawi, that may be so, but we need to start some ware, and as this is only the second critique, we need a lot more, plus we would also need more screen real-estate to I think, as per comment on wiki page
13:43 azawawi which wiki are you referring to?
13:45 bowtie http://padre.perlide.org/trac​/wiki/Features/Perl5Debugger
13:46 azawawi svn 1.7 integration seems to be going well
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13:47 azawawi basically the sqlite database in 1.7 is interesting...
13:47 azawawi SELECT * from NODES where checksum = '$sha1$527a903a6a42fb37893766699ce7a72fdb32e957' :)
13:50 sugar perl =)
13:51 sugar sha1 - it's field of NODES?
14:00 azawawi sugar: basically in svn 1.7, you have wc.db
14:00 azawawi sugar: which is a sqlite database and contains metadata about your repository
14:01 azawawi sugar: svn 1.6 and lower contained .svn folder in each directory
14:01 azawawi sugar: we used a trick by submersible_toaster++ to diff against it in version control
14:01 azawawi sugar: and im trying to replicate that trick to 1.7 :)
14:02 azawawi sugar: so we need to know the unmodified file in your subversion repo and diff against it using the current editor buffer
14:03 azawawi sugar: in git, we use git show (i think) for the unmodified file and do the same
14:03 sugar azawawi: oh, very interesting, thanks for explaining =)
14:03 azawawi sugar: that's why it is fast
14:03 azawawi sugar: and does not depend on lib X and Y
14:04 sugar svn 1.7 faster than 1.6&
14:04 sugar ?
14:04 azawawi way faster...
14:04 azawawi single db
14:04 azawawi one .svn folder
14:05 azawawi and svn status is way faster
14:05 sugar of course
14:05 azawawi and works against svn 1.4+ (i think) servers
14:05 sugar current diff to VCS in padre is very usefull
14:05 azawawi so basically you 'svn upgrade' your current repository
14:05 azawawi and you have the new repo
14:06 azawawi one caveat is that 'svn upgrade' does not work all the time
14:06 sugar and it upgrades project files and one .db?
14:06 azawawi yup
14:06 azawawi nothing to do on the server side
14:06 azawawi if svn upgrade fails,
14:06 azawawi use svn checkout... :)
14:06 sugar now i am switching from git to svn, because change the work place
14:07 azawawi try it, it is fast
14:07 sugar ok, thx
14:07 azawawi mind you not as fast as git ofcourse :)
14:07 azawawi but it is way faster than before
14:07 azawawi less IO
14:08 sugar i like git, but svn looks good too
14:08 azawawi svn is user friendly
14:08 azawawi like mercurial
14:08 sugar yeah
14:08 sugar git is so parseable =)
14:10 azawawi i like the idea that i can know the size X files in the new svn file format
14:10 azawawi without touching them
14:10 sugar i can make report about commits among devs with perl one-liner and git-history
14:10 azawawi basically an index
14:11 azawawi svn status... :)
14:11 azawawi svn log :)
14:11 * sugar needs more smoking more mans about svn =)
14:11 azawawi subversion red book...
14:12 sugar thanks, will see it
14:15 sugar azawawi++
14:17 azawawi got it :)
14:17 azawawi select local_relpath, checksum from nodes where local_relpath = 'Padre/Changes'
14:17 azawawi :)
14:18 azawawi sugar: thx
15:27 Hyppolit svn: r17749 | bowtie++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/17749
15:27 Hyppolit more changes to test system,
15:27 Hyppolit up loaded to trunk prior to cpan so as to enable sharing,
15:27 Hyppolit more to do re 5-16-6 failures to look at before release
15:27 Hyppolit updated to version 0.17_03 this is a development version only, you don't need this for Debug2
15:27 Hyppolit trunk/Debug-Client/ trunk/Debug-Client/lib/Debug/ trunk/Debug-Client/t/ trunk/Debug-Client/t/lib/
15:42 azawawi bowtie: ping
15:43 azawawi bowtie: still fails on perl-5.15.6
15:46 shadowpaste "azawawi" at 217.168.150.38 pasted "Read pristine svn file in 1.7 :)" (41 lines) at http://paste.scsys.co.uk/169106
15:47 * azawawi home &
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16:16 dolmen #padre is now listed at http://www.irc.perl.org/channels.html
16:17 sugar good dolmen++
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18:29 user_2263 Hi. How do you install apis into strawberry perl? I tried googling but I only found linux guides and i got confused halfway through reading this: http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2008/09/how-to-insta​ll-perl-modules-manually-and-using-cpan-command/
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20:37 Hyppolit # 1367 :  Debug::Client tests fail against perl-5.15.6 (new defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/1367 ]
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22:07 El_Che szabgab: gabor, can you add the call for speakers for fosdem to the upcoming perl news? http://nxadm.wordpress.com/20​11/12/21/perlfosdem2012-cfs/
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