Camelia, the Perl 6 bug

IRC log for #padre, 2012-02-06

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00:43 awm hello everyone
01:02 Hyppolit svn: r18197 | burak++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18197
01:02 Hyppolit Update Turkish translation (Fosdem edition)
01:02 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/share/locale/
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06:48 gnosti How do I indent a block of code?
06:52 sewi_work Hi gnosti
06:52 sewi_work select it and press "tab"
06:56 gnosti Thanks, sewi_work, I see, and shift-tab is outdent.
06:56 sewi_work is is
07:02 * gnosti tweaks Preferences several times attempting to get 4-space indent.
07:04 gnosti Does anyone here use indents other than 8 spaces? Select-tab and select-shift-tab don't appear to respect Preferences settings.
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07:07 sewi_work gnosti: AFAIR preferences is a default value, the actual value used by a file is taken from the file itself.
07:10 szabgab oh, I was mentioned on the intertent ! :)
07:10 szabgab sewi_work: are you using linux now?
07:11 szabgab I have this strange thing that I press Ctrl-c on some text
07:11 szabgab then I search
07:11 szabgab then I cannot paste any more
07:11 szabgab very annoying
07:12 szabgab and I wonder if it's me only, linux or a general issue
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07:21 gnosti szabgab: I can verify this on linux (debian). I would check the version, but the menu bar has foreshortened itself (latest svn).
07:23 sewi_work szabgab: yes, I do.
07:24 sewi_work There has been a copy/paste bug for some time loosing the buffer's content quite often :(
07:24 szabgab I wonder if this happens on windows as well
07:24 szabgab btw thanks gnosti and sewi_work for confirming
07:24 sewi_work I think Alias wasn't able to reproduce
07:25 szabgab at least I am not totally crazy
07:25 szabgab :)
07:25 szabgab so if Alias does not see it on windows then it does not exist
07:25 szabgab this thing used to work on Linux :)
07:25 sewi_work yes, as very long time ago
07:26 sewi_work Bug exists for some 5 month or so
07:26 szabgab yeah, I saw it many times
07:26 sewi_work #1312
07:26 Hyppolit # 1312 :  Mouse (Ubuntu) Copy Paste X-Clipboard (new defect) by bowtie  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1312#comment:14 ]
07:26 szabgab I was just hoping people more active will fix it :)
07:27 sewi_work I confirmed that it came in at r15630 but didn't find the reason within this rev
07:27 Hyppolit Changeset #15630 http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/15630
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07:48 Timbus padre has had this copy-paste bug forever
07:48 Timbus for me
07:50 Timbus i fixed middle click behavior by ripping out any code that handles it and letting wxwidgets deal with it. for the other clipboard, the ctrl-c+v clipboard. i fixed the bug by installing 'parcellite', a gtk clipboard manager
07:50 Timbus i installed it to debug padre and it magically fixed the bug
07:50 Timbus so. yeah.
07:51 Timbus clearly a deep wx bug
07:54 Timbus or a scintilla bug
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08:50 azawawi ok im back :)
08:50 azawawi enough gaming...
08:50 azawawi :)
08:53 * azawawi restarting... &
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09:53 szabgab any windows user who has a few minutes to help?
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09:55 El_Che windows users --with the exeception of Alias-- mostly NEED help :)
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09:56 szabgab hah El_Che
09:56 szabgab I thought you were on the run already :)
09:56 bowtie gm
09:56 szabgab I am about to release http://dwimperl.com/
09:56 szabgab and I wanted to ask someone to check it before I publish the blog
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10:52 azawawi szabgab: ping
10:52 azawawi szabgab: win32 user here lol
10:53 azawawi im a win32 user how can i help?
10:53 azawawi why is padre.bat not working on my machine? why? why? :)
10:53 bowtie azawawi, hi
10:53 azawawi hey
10:54 bowtie azawawi, I trust you and No1 are well
10:54 azawawi great
10:55 bowtie got time for a problem?
10:58 Hyppolit svn: r18198 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18198
10:58 Hyppolit Added lexers for TCC batch scripts & AviSynth (Part of the upgrade to Scintilla 3.0.3)
10:58 Hyppolit trunk/Wx-Scintilla/wx-scintilla/src/scintilla/src/
10:59 Hyppolit svn: r18199 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18199
10:59 Hyppolit Upgrade to Scintilla 3.0.3
10:59 Hyppolit trunk/Wx-Scintilla/wx-scintilla/src/scintilla/src/
10:59 bowtie azawawi, can you check the BASH addition to wx-scintilla, default.txt please
11:00 Hyppolit svn: r18200 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18200
11:00 Hyppolit Upgrade to Scintilla 3.0.3 (Headers)
11:00 Hyppolit trunk/Wx-Scintilla/wx-scint​illa/src/scintilla/include/
11:00 azawawi bowtie: where?
11:01 szabgab azawawi: ping
11:01 bowtie azawawi, r18190 n r18191
11:01 Hyppolit Changeset #18190 http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18190
11:02 szabgab azawawi: just wanted someone to check the http://dwimperl.com/ distribution
11:02 azawawi szabgab: pong
11:02 szabgab which is replacing the "padre on strawberry" distro
11:02 azawawi Alias++ # Screen Layout in Padre Preferences
11:02 szabgab and it has 0.94 in it
11:04 bowtie szabgab, perl 5.14.2?
11:07 Hyppolit svn: r18201 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18201
11:07 Hyppolit Bumped version to 0.37_02 and fixed a few typos
11:07 Hyppolit trunk/Wx-Scintilla/ trunk/Wx-Scintilla/lib/Wx/ trunk/Wx-Scintilla/lib/Wx/Scintilla/
11:07 szabgab bowtie: 5.12.0
11:07 bowtie szabgab, why?
11:07 szabgab the latest official strawberry
11:08 szabgab actually 5.12.3
11:09 bowtie szabgab, have they not released a 5.12.4?
11:09 szabgab not officially
11:09 szabgab there is a beta AFAIK
11:09 * azawawi downloads DWIM Perl
11:11 Hyppolit svn: r18202 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18202
11:11 Hyppolit Updated lib/Wx/Scintilla/Constant.pm by runnings tools/gen_scintilla_constants.pl
11:11 Hyppolit trunk/Wx-Scintilla/lib/Wx/Scintilla/
11:11 bowtie szabgab, I found and old win box(coppermine 384m), put strawberry 5.14.2 and Padre on it, works but V slow
11:14 szabgab it is quite nice to see the Perl Weekly generates more than 2000 clicks in 24 hours :)
11:14 szabgab to lots of perl-related posts
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11:16 Hyppolit svn: r18203 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18203
11:16 Hyppolit Bumped version to 0.37_03
11:16 Hyppolit trunk/Wx-Scintilla/lib/Wx/ trunk/Wx-Scintilla/lib/Wx/Scintilla/
11:16 Hyppolit svn: r18204 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18204
11:16 Hyppolit Updated Changes for released 0.37_03
11:16 Hyppolit trunk/Wx-Scintilla/
11:17 azawawi bowtie: looks fine to me
11:18 * azawawi installs DWIMPerl
11:24 azawawi cpanm http://cpan.metacpan.org/authors/id/A/​AZ/AZAWAWI/Wx-Scintilla-0.37_03.tar.gz
11:24 azawawi # Scintilla 3.0.3
11:25 szabgab azawawi: are you talking to me?
11:25 azawawi szabgab: i'll dump my strawberry installation and try dwimperl after lunch :)
11:25 szabgab ok
11:26 szabgab just let me know if it is reasonable
11:26 azawawi szabgab: is it FDIC insured? :)
11:26 szabgab FDIC?
11:26 szabgab who is FDIC?
11:26 szabgab aha
11:26 azawawi lol
11:27 * azawawi installs Wx-Scintilla 0.37_03
11:27 * azawawi lunch &
11:29 szabgab on getclick I see a Jordanian flag :)
11:29 szabgab listing the visitors of dwimperl.com
11:29 szabgab a rare view
11:55 bowtie azawawi, thanks, just thought I would get it checked, as it's your area :)
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12:00 user_9810 Does anyone know if/how Padre can handle editing remote files via ssh?
12:03 bowtie user_9810, hi see link at bottom of page -> http://padre.perlide.org/trac​/wiki/Features/RemoteEditing
12:04 user_9810 bowtie: Thanks, I did find that but the part about ssh says "(Need to check)"
12:05 user_9810 not sure what that means and I can't get it to work!
12:05 bowtie user_9810,  Padre::Plugin::ReDevel - remote development through SSH
12:06 user_9810 eh - oopps. Sorry, didn't see that! Thanks...
12:06 bowtie user_9810, you can also ask mj41 when around
12:07 bowtie mj41, ping
12:10 shadowpaste "bowtie" at 217.168.150.38 pasted "azawawi, cpanm -v Wx-Scintilla-0.37_03.tar.gz" (426 lines) at http://paste.scsys.co.uk/180755
12:14 bowtie user_9810, can you use a nickname please, rather than auto-generated name, thanks
12:15 bowtie brb
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12:59 szabgab azawawi: are you eating that much? :)
13:10 azawawi szabgab: nah...
13:11 azawawi szabgab: been working at an excel sheet containing unstructured data from a client...
13:11 azawawi szabgab: s/at/on/
13:11 azawawi szabgab: one word: chaotic...
13:13 * azawawi uninstalls old strawberry
13:28 azawawi szabgab: Padre-Plugin-PerlTidy incompatible with Padre 0.94
13:29 szabgab crap
13:29 azawawi szabgab: Please upgrade Padre::Plugin::PerlTidy from 0.16 to 0.21
13:30 szabgab in dwimperl you mean
13:30 azawawi yup
13:30 azawawi im using it right now instead of strawberry
13:31 szabgab ok
13:31 szabgab that will go in the next version
13:32 szabgab any other major issue?
13:32 Hyppolit svn: r18205 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18205
13:32 Hyppolit Simpler CPAN description for Wx::Scintilla
13:32 Hyppolit trunk/Wx-Scintilla/
13:41 Hyppolit svn: r18206 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18206
13:41 Hyppolit Guard against undefined projects in project browser
13:41 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Directory/
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13:54 Hyppolit svn: r18207 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18207
13:54 Hyppolit Fixed linking issue with 0.37_03 (bowtie++, azawawi--)
13:54 Hyppolit trunk/Wx-Scintilla/ trunk/Wx-Scintilla/lib/Wx/ trunk/Wx-Scintilla/lib/Wx/Scintilla/
13:56 azawawi szabgab: not that im aware of
13:56 azawawi szabgab: will report if anything serious happens
13:56 azawawi szabgab: or arises...
13:56 azawawi szabgab: or whatever :)
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14:07 szabgab azawawi++
14:07 szabgab thanks
14:08 szabgab I have published the blog
14:20 azawawi http://ahmadzawawi.blogspot.com/2012/​02/dwimperl-for-windows-is-here.html :)
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14:23 Hyppolit svn: r18208 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18208
14:23 Hyppolit Added articles about DWIMPerl
14:23 Hyppolit trunk/template.padre.perlide.org/data/
14:33 szabgab azawawi: thanks
14:34 szabgab thousg if you moved the link from my name to the "Perl training guy" that would give more Google juice :)
14:35 azawawi cool
14:36 azawawi done
14:37 szabgab thanks
14:38 daxim how much is the overlap with Task::Kensho?  draw a diagram
14:39 azawawi daxim: :)
14:39 azawawi daxim: hi
14:39 daxim http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9134​209/padre-under-activeperl-not-working
14:40 azawawi ActivePerl and Padre...
14:40 azawawi hmmm
14:41 azawawi that's Mark's territory... i wont cross :)
14:41 azawawi http://www.wxperl.co.uk/ ppm
14:41 azawawi ActivePerl ppm wont work
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14:47 azawawi daxim: mailed mark dootson about it
14:48 azawawi daxim: this guy is just awesome... he will fix it in a jiffy...
14:49 azawawi daxim: unluckily i cannot replicate that particular one as ActivePerl releases its community version as free and the others under business/enterprise licenses...
14:55 azawawi replied... daxim++
14:56 szabgab daxim: probably all of Task::Kensho should be inside, but it is not yet
14:56 azawawi daxim: Task::Kensho will probably die on installation on win32 :)
14:58 szabgab anything that dies  will be reported :)
14:59 azawawi "...For neither do men live nor die in vain.." :)
14:59 azawawi The War of the Worlds
15:00 azawawi :)
15:01 El_Che da-wimp-perl?
15:01 El_Che the creater must be a MBA :)
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15:01 azawawi da-wimp-perl mon :)
15:06 szabgab nah, El_Che you are always looking for this, right?
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15:07 El_Che no, really, explain me the ethymology
15:07 szabgab DWIMPerl
15:07 szabgab DWIM Perl
15:07 El_Che I see
15:07 szabgab Do What I MEan
15:07 El_Che You could have gone with the batteries included thing aswell
15:07 El_Che fosdem was nice, by the way
15:08 El_Che too bad you weren't there
15:08 azawawi too bad i cannot travel atm
15:08 azawawi damn
15:10 szabgab El_Che: batteries included
15:10 szabgab good
15:10 szabgab yeah too bad I could not come
15:10 szabgab I am looking forward your pictures and blogs
15:10 szabgab and I hope I can move forward my thing enough that I can come next year
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15:41 El_Che http://science.slashdot.org/story/12/02/06/1​48248/perl-data-language-2410-released?utm_s​ource=rss1.0mainlinkanon&utm_medium=feed
15:41 El_Che Perl Data Language
15:41 El_Che Highlights of the new release are automatic multi-thread support, support for data structures larger than 2 GB and POSIX threads support.
15:41 El_Che f*ck, maybe Perl can get a reasonable thread implementation from there :)
15:42 azawawi_1 ...
15:42 azawawi_1 no comment
15:42 azawawi_1 im sick and tired of how easy i can create a thread in java :)
15:43 El_Che yeah, it's painfully easy
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16:19 sewi_work brb
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17:53 awm hi
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19:34 szabgab is kmx on IRC somewehre?
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19:53 kaare Nobody selling Padre? http://blogs.perl.org/users/mr_muskr​at/2012/02/switching-to-notepad.html
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20:11 szabgab kaare: its' your turn :)
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21:30 kaare szabgab: I'm working in Marketing this week :-)
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