Camelia, the Perl 6 bug

IRC log for #padre, 2012-02-10

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00:07 Hyppolit svn: r18221 | bowtie++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18221
00:07 Hyppolit Start of revamp of Spell Checker Plugin
00:07 Hyppolit version bumped to 1.22
00:07 Hyppolit preferences now from Plug-in Manager, cool, alias++
00:07 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-SpellCheck/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-SpellCheck/lib/Padre/Plugin/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-SpellCheck​/lib/Padre/Plugin/SpellCheck/
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10:33 bowtie gm
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11:28 szabgab bowtie: hi
11:28 szabgab 2 days ago finally I used the debugger
11:28 szabgab it is awesome!
11:28 bowtie szabgab, hi, how are you
11:28 bowtie szabgab, thanks, 0.94 or 0.95
11:29 szabgab you mean Padre?
11:29 szabgab 0.94
11:29 szabgab the DWIM Perl pacakeg
11:29 szabgab I used it in class
11:30 bowtie try 0.95, you can click on variables in list and it displays in corresponding colour in d-ouput
11:30 szabgab It was a bit strange to see the letters on the buddons
11:30 szabgab I think we should change that
11:30 szabgab bowtie: I will try it
11:31 szabgab I am not building DWIM Perl for Windows on 5.14.2
11:31 bowtie I based it on perl5db, look at wiki page ,
11:32 szabgab you mean the letter?
11:32 szabgab s
11:32 bowtie debug menu last item
11:32 szabgab yeah I got that but I think the primary users of this thing will not know what those mean
11:33 szabgab so we better have there names that are meaningful for them
11:33 szabgab and then teach them the letters
11:37 bowtie screen real-estate is the issue, hence the wiki page say it get more interesting as you go down the actions and to the right, and assumes that the perl debugger is the key reference here, so that's why tool-tips are used
11:39 szabgab bowtie: just think about the average user
11:39 szabgab and/or check how does it work in Eclipse :)
11:41 bowtie eclipse, you do not have the actions, only a subset, this is the only debugger interface that let's you use RAW and do what ever you can on the command line
11:41 bowtie you can not set watch points with eclipse
11:42 bowtie and as sone as you go to words instead of letters, what will happen to screen display, after translation?
11:44 bowtie hence the 6 icons at top, and check boxes
11:45 bowtie we could gray out the bottom two rows if in beginner mode, but I am not sure what beginner mode is or dose
11:49 szabgab bowtie: I'll try to make a screencast
11:49 szabgab that will help me think about it
11:49 szabgab and try to explain it
11:51 bowtie szabgab, suggest you do Chapter 04 from Pro Perl Debugging, then users will have a reference they can follow, and see how ease it is to do in Padre
11:53 bowtie szabgab, Debug-Client 0.17_06 works with perl 5.15.x, see cpan testers, note 0.17_04 failures due to p5p changes
11:55 bowtie As soon as the test counts for 0.17_06 are in, I will push to 0.18, and add tweak to Debugger for perl 5.16 compatibility
12:05 bowtie szabgab, if you want to see what perl5db is doing, use 'H' -> RAW, also you might want to unlock user interface so you can max D-out panel sometimes :)
12:06 szabgab ok
12:06 * daxim compiles padre from cpan on a debug-thread perl
12:07 bowtie szabgab, the wiki is full of info
12:07 bowtie szabgab, back in an hour :)
12:23 daxim padre pops up xterm for the debugger, can't that happen in an invisible pty instead?
12:32 szabgab daxim: isn't that the regular output windows?
12:33 szabgab in other words, if you run the same thing, isn't that xterm there too?
12:33 daxim no
12:33 szabgab strange then
12:37 daxim I can't figure out how to move the debugger panel from the right to the bottom.  it doesn't have a context menu anywhere, and dragging does nothing.   ui locking is disabled in the menu
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12:39 user_6099 hey there
12:41 * daxim facepalm
12:41 daxim yeah, xterm is hardcoded
12:41 daxim lib/Padre/Wx/Main.pm +2980
12:43 user_6099 Hey I need help here
12:44 user_6099 please
12:44 user_6099 I would like to open my script in a web browser just for test how can I do that?
12:44 user_6099 simple scripts as print"Hello world";
12:45 daxim padre doesn't have a built-in cgi environment.  you need to run and use an external one, e.g. a web server such as apache httpd with mod_cgi enabled
12:46 user_6099 is there a tutorial on the website?
12:46 daxim I haven't looked, probably not
12:47 user_6099 Ok, thanks for the tip
13:08 Hyppolit # 1396 :  xterm is hardcoded (new defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/1396 ]
13:14 Hyppolit # 1397 :  unable to figure out what the status says (new defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/1397 ]
13:15 Hyppolit # 1397 :  unable to figure out what the status says (new defect) new attachment [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/1397 ]
13:16 Hyppolit # 1398 :  UI text overlaps UI element (new defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/1398 ]
13:26 Hyppolit # 1399 :  calculation of position of cursor position in status is wrong (new defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/1399 ]
13:32 Hyppolit # 1400 :  code folding icon hides break-point icon (new defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/1400 ]
13:34 bowtie daxim, you can't move the debugger panels around at present
13:38 daxim that's crap, fix it
13:38 Hyppolit # 1401 :  crash: Can't call method "get_h_var" on an undefined value at …/Padre/Wx/Panel/Debugger.pm line 904. (new defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/1401 ]
13:41 Hyppolit # 1401 :  crash: Can't call method "get_h_var" on an undefined value at …/Padre/Wx/Panel/Debugger.pm line 904. (closed defect) by bowtie  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1401#comment:1 ]
13:44 Hyppolit # 1396 :  xterm is hardcoded (assigned defect) by bowtie  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1396#comment:1 ]
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13:46 Hyppolit # 1400 :  code folding icon hides break-point icon (new defect) by bowtie  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1400#comment:1 ]
13:50 Hyppolit # 1400 :  code folding icon hides break-point icon (new defect) by bowtie  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1400#comment:2 ]
13:50 Hyppolit # 1402 :  UI blocks through status menu tooltip repaint (new defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/1402 ]
14:02 Hyppolit # 1389 :  Breakpoints visual indicators aren't restored on Padre restart (closed defect) by bowtie  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1389#comment:8 ]
14:07 Hyppolit # 1235 :  customizable external terminal (closed enhancement) by bowtie  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1235#comment:2 ]
14:10 Hyppolit # 1375 :  User should be able to configure the run-terminal of his choice in Linux (new enhancement) by bowtie  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1375#comment:1 ]
14:11 Hyppolit # 1396 :  xterm is hardcoded (closed defect) by bowtie  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1396#comment:2 ]
14:17 Hyppolit # 1401 :  crash: Can't call method "get_h_var" on an undefined value at …/Padre/Wx/Panel/Debugger.pm line 904. (reopened defect) by bowtie  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1401#comment:2 ]
14:18 Hyppolit # 1401 :  crash: Can't call method "get_h_var" on an undefined value at …/Padre/Wx/Panel/Debugger.pm line 904. (closed defect) by bowtie  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1401#comment:3 ]
14:19 Hyppolit # 1388 :  Using breakpoints toolbar item on un-named file causes crash (closed defect) by bowtie  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1388#comment:4 ]
14:51 Hyppolit # 1084 :  Tooltip expression evaluation (assigned enhancement) by bowtie  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1084#comment:2 ]
14:53 Hyppolit # 882 :  debugging for Wx-scripts doesn't work (assigned defect) by bowtie  [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/882#comment:3 ]
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21:50 brewer Hi, really simple question:
21:50 brewer what window/panel has to have focus for the debugger keyboard shortcuts to function?
21:51 brewer I can step through with the buttons, but can't figure out how to do it with n or s
21:51 brewer (Padre 0.94, Strawberry 5.12.3 on Win 7)
21:58 bowtie brewer, hi
21:59 bowtie please create a ticket for this
22:05 brewer OK, will do.
22:06 bowtie brewer, are you registered?
22:51 brewer bowtie:  no, not registered on trac
22:51 bowtie Hyppolit, trac!
22:51 Hyppolit Trac registration opened for 5 minutes. Please visit http://padre.perlide.org/trac/register to register
22:51 bowtie ok follow link brewer
22:53 brewer Got it, I'm in, thanks.
22:54 bowtie brewer, after registering -> http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wiki/Tickets
22:56 Hyppolit Trac registration closed
23:05 Hyppolit # 1403 :  Debugger key bindings (n,s) do not function (new defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/1403 ]
23:05 brewer OK, ticket created.
23:07 brewer For my edification:  What is the intended behavior for the debugger keyboard shortcuts?  Do they require focus to be on a specific panel?
23:08 bowtie brewer, good question, as far as I am aware there are none, at present
23:08 bowtie just tool-tips
23:12 brewer Ok, so I guess this would be an enhancement request then :)
23:13 bowtie yes, I will update ticket, don't forget to view http://padre.perlide.org/trac​/wiki/Features/Perl5Debugger
23:15 Hyppolit # 1403 :  Debugger key bindings (n,s) do not function (assigned enhancement) by bowtie  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1403#comment:1 ]

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