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user_5355 |
Hi I'm a Padre newbie - on Windows. And I love Padre,,,, Does anyone know how I can route the perl script output to the output pane (instead of seeing it in a cmd window)? TIA! |
| 08:24 |
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user_5355 |
The output pane is always empty... |
| 08:24 |
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szabgab |
there is aan option for that |
| 08:24 |
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user_5355 |
hmm didn't find it. Will look... |
| 08:24 |
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szabgab |
but then you won't be able to get input via <STDIN> |
| 08:24 |
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user_5355 |
ok |
| 08:24 |
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szabgab |
I don't remember the location of it |
| 08:24 |
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szabgab |
somewher in the preferences :) |
| 08:28 |
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user_5355 |
I cannot find it. |
| 08:28 |
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user_5355 |
I'm in the advanced prefs and don't see something appropriate |
| 08:29 |
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szabgab |
Tools -> Preferences -> Language Perl 5 |
| 08:29 |
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szabgab |
search for external |
| 08:29 |
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szabgab |
in the advanced pref |
| 08:29 |
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user_5355 |
Great, works! I searched for "output" etc...! Thanks very much! |
| 08:30 |
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szabgab |
you are welcome |
| 08:30 |
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user_5355 |
ok, i'm off, thanks again and have a good day. |
| 08:30 |
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szabgab |
you too |
| 08:31 |
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azawawi |
hi |
| 08:32 |
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azawawi |
szabgab: caught you :) |
| 08:32 |
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szabgab |
hah |
| 08:34 |
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azawawi |
cpanm Padre::Plugin::Moose # and then type q{cfor\t} => "cfor"<tab> |
| 08:39 |
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azawawi |
szabgab: re "Building a really good web applications needs a lot of high-level knowledge"... |
| 08:40 |
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szabgab |
wait, what? |
| 08:40 |
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azawawi |
szabgab: add... and lot of string escaping... :) |
| 08:40 |
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azawawi |
szabgab: especially when transferring data over JSON |
| 08:41 |
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* szabgab |
is insalling the plugin now |
| 08:42 |
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azawawi |
http://oylenshpeegul.typepad.c[…]wrong-with-v.html # interesting |
| 08:43 |
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szabgab |
*** glibc detected *** /usr/bin/perl: invalid fastbin entry (free): 0x00000000012cce20 *** |
| 08:43 |
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szabgab |
what the ... is this? |
| 08:50 |
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El_Che |
it's pretty sad we have a trillion of ways to specify versions |
| 08:51 |
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El_Che |
the 5.14 way looks good |
| 08:51 |
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azawawi |
yeah it is absurd |
| 08:52 |
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El_Che |
I love the TIMTOWTDI mantra, but that's silly |
| 08:52 |
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azawawi |
szabgab: it is a new error tailored only to Padre |
| 08:52 |
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azawawi |
El_Che: agree |
| 08:52 |
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azawawi |
El_Che: it confuses everyone |
| 08:52 |
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szabgab |
azawawi: I have the Moose plugin enabled |
| 08:52 |
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El_Che |
well, it comes down to the fact that we don't dare to make versions obsolete |
| 08:52 |
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szabgab |
and a .pl file open |
| 08:53 |
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szabgab |
azawawi: what shall I do now |
| 08:53 |
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szabgab |
? |
| 08:53 |
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El_Che |
our Python brothers made everyone angry in the community, but they cleaned up their language making incompatible changes in 3.0 |
| 08:53 |
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azawawi |
szabgab: enable Moose plugin? |
| 08:53 |
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azawawi |
szabgab: type: cfor and then tab |
| 08:53 |
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szabgab |
I have that |
| 08:54 |
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szabgab |
in the perl code or in the Moose Assistant? |
| 08:54 |
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azawawi |
szabgab: nah, in your current editor |
| 08:54 |
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szabgab |
vim? |
| 08:54 |
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El_Che |
I don't want to bash other IDEs, but this is silly: |
| 08:54 |
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El_Che |
http://www.engadget.com/2012/0[…]using-aide-video/ |
| 08:54 |
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El_Che |
an android IDE for android |
| 08:54 |
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szabgab |
oh |
| 08:54 |
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El_Che |
it runs on android |
| 08:54 |
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szabgab |
cforTAB++ |
| 08:55 |
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azawawi |
ifeTAB |
| 08:55 |
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azawawi |
ifeeTAB |
| 08:55 |
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azawawi |
foreTAB |
| 08:55 |
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szabgab |
azawawi: and why do I need the Moose plugin for this? |
| 08:55 |
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azawawi |
continue tabbing... |
| 08:55 |
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azawawi |
szabgab: because it was a testbed for creating that one :) |
| 08:55 |
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azawawi |
szabgab: will be refactored into ::Snippets |
| 08:55 |
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szabgab |
frightening :) |
| 08:56 |
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azawawi |
the cool thing is this... |
| 08:56 |
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azawawi |
textmate snippets are here and there on the web... |
| 08:56 |
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szabgab |
btw I thought we should unite the code templates we have ana the snippets |
| 08:56 |
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azawawi |
snipMate is also the vim TextMate plugin |
| 08:56 |
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azawawi |
szabgab: this is snippets with variables... |
| 08:56 |
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szabgab |
the "New Perl 5 script" thingy should IMHO be a snippet |
| 08:56 |
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azawawi |
szabgab: try cforTABTAB |
| 08:57 |
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azawawi |
szabgab: and edit the variable... $var |
| 08:57 |
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azawawi |
szabgab: another good example... |
| 08:57 |
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szabgab |
even cforTATTABTAB works :) |
| 08:57 |
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azawawi |
szabgab: is scriptTAB |
| 08:57 |
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azawawi |
you can also shift-tab to go back |
| 08:57 |
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azawawi |
last TAB after final position gets you outside snippet mode |
| 08:57 |
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azawawi |
movement / ESC gets you outside also |
| 08:58 |
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szabgab |
azawawi: very nice |
| 08:58 |
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szabgab |
azawawi++ |
| 08:58 |
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azawawi |
El_Che++ # for suggesting it |
| 08:58 |
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El_Che |
I get flowers without writing code |
| 08:58 |
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szabgab |
El_Che++ |
| 08:58 |
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El_Che |
I am ready for management! |
| 08:58 |
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El_Che |
:) |
| 08:58 |
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azawawi |
El_Che is the invisible hand in Padre |
| 08:58 |
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azawawi |
El_Che: you're http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invisible_hand :) |
| 08:59 |
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szabgab |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teB4f1LZ3fk |
| 08:59 |
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azawawi |
szabgab: snippets is the replacement for everything |
| 09:00 |
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azawawi |
szabgab: forget new script... etc |
| 09:00 |
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azawawi |
szabgab: https://metacpan.org/source/AZ[…]snippets/perl.yml |
| 09:00 |
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El_Che |
szabgab: I don't know what azawawi ate lately but he's on a ROLL |
| 09:00 |
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azawawi |
szabgab: https://metacpan.org/source/AZ[…]nippets/moose.yml |
| 09:01 |
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El_Che |
I almost expect he's porting Padre to Moose while making the startup faster :) |
| 09:01 |
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szabgab |
El_Che: in Perl 6 :) |
| 09:02 |
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azawawi |
i gave up on Perl 6 |
| 09:02 |
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azawawi |
that's why |
| 09:02 |
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azawawi |
Moose is already here. Why not use it? |
| 09:02 |
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El_Che |
it's sad, but good for us :) |
| 09:02 |
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azawawi |
we should github the project soon also |
| 09:02 |
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El_Che |
azawawi: startup, and huge depedencies |
| 09:02 |
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szabgab |
I think if Perl 6 development stops so will perl 5 development |
| 09:02 |
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azawawi |
yup |
| 09:02 |
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azawawi |
scary |
| 09:03 |
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szabgab |
because people will stop feeling the urge to beat it |
| 09:03 |
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El_Che |
azawawi: that's why I hear from someone that came back to perl is is now a huge fan |
| 09:03 |
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El_Che |
my contact at opencsw |
| 09:03 |
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El_Che |
I pointed him to mouse and now he's happy as a child :) |
| 09:03 |
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azawawi |
playing with mice is nice |
| 09:03 |
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azawawi |
watched yesterday "Hugo"... |
| 09:03 |
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azawawi |
not bad |
| 09:03 |
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azawawi |
very nice movie |
| 09:03 |
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El_Che |
he'll get hooked on the moose syntax working with mouse and one day he'll need to do some metaprogramming |
| 09:04 |
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El_Che |
bwahahaha |
| 09:04 |
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El_Che |
and it will to late |
| 09:04 |
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El_Che |
:) |
| 09:04 |
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El_Che |
I guess that's how they sell drugs :) |
| 09:04 |
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szabgab |
you you experiement with mice? |
| 09:04 |
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azawawi |
El_Che: you know what i ate lately? smallpox :) |
| 09:04 |
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szabgab |
and when the drug works you give it to bigger animals |
| 09:05 |
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azawawi |
szabgab: i guess you will know it... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mujaddara :) |
| 09:06 |
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szabgab |
skyhook |
| 09:06 |
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szabgab |
I just read about that :) |
| 09:06 |
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szabgab |
azawawi: sure |
| 09:07 |
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azawawi |
szabgab: snippets are crucial to the wow-factor of any demo |
| 09:08 |
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azawawi |
szabgab: preparing your snippets for a demo is cool |
| 09:09 |
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szabgab |
yeah, material for demo is good |
| 09:09 |
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azawawi |
szabgab: demo01<tab> and then tab in to complete nth placeholder and tab out |
| 09:09 |
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szabgab |
I need it so I can do more videos |
| 09:09 |
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szabgab |
what I'd also like is a way to do "fasttyping" |
| 09:09 |
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azawawi |
fast typing? |
| 09:09 |
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szabgab |
so I have everything prepaerd, typed in already and then I can just press a button and it will seem as if I was typng really fast |
| 09:10 |
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szabgab |
B[B[B http://search.cpan.org/~dconwa[…]#Simulating_input |
| 09:11 |
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El_Che |
azawawi: thanks to the help of rurban getting perl to build on solaris (he did everything), I picked up my C book again and needed an editor, so I launched netbeans again. So I can steal new ideas |
| 09:13 |
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El_Che |
I must the the padre perl support is better than the C support in netbeans |
| 09:13 |
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szabgab |
El_Che: if you can build perl on solaris, will you also try to get padre up there ? |
| 09:17 |
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mj41 |
hi, https://gist.github.com/1999845 |
| 09:22 |
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azawawi |
El_Che: Java has string.split but no array.join ... lol |
| 09:22 |
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azawawi |
szabgab: that's what autoit and autohotkey are for... :) |
| 09:23 |
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* azawawi |
watches q|Ran Eilam: Syntactic sugar (Eng)| |
| 09:23 |
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szabgab |
azawawi: what are those auto* things? |
| 09:26 |
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szabgab |
in Padre? |
| 09:29 |
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El_Che |
szabgab: Other priorities first |
| 09:29 |
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El_Che |
szabgab: opencsw need to migrate ALL their perl setup |
| 09:29 |
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El_Che |
szabgab: a zillion of modules |
| 09:30 |
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El_Che |
szabgab: my aim is to make them the solaris reference for an up to date perl |
| 09:30 |
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El_Che |
szabgab: activestate has no downloadable perl releases (you pay for their solaris release, oem one) |
| 09:30 |
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El_Che |
szabgab: sunfreeware are standalone packgaes and no modules |
| 09:31 |
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El_Che |
blastwave has 5.8.* |
| 09:31 |
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szabgab |
El_Che: can we start making a Solaris version of DWIM Perl? |
| 09:31 |
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szabgab |
I'll release a version for Linux |
| 09:31 |
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szabgab |
server side stuff only for now |
| 09:31 |
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El_Che |
szabgab: I think it's better to bet on one horse |
| 09:32 |
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szabgab |
what do you mean? |
| 09:32 |
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El_Che |
as time is limited I can help them to get their Perl architecture in order |
| 09:32 |
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El_Che |
e.g. their apt-get clone is written in perl |
| 09:32 |
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szabgab |
mj41: dn't you have commit bit n padre? |
| 09:32 |
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El_Che |
but no test nor very modernish |
| 09:33 |
|
El_Che |
so helping them in that effort is more prioritaty for me |
| 09:33 |
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* azawawi |
sunfreeware... brings fond memories of my Sun Ultra 10 :) |
| 09:33 |
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El_Che |
there is an standalone sunfreeware perl available |
| 09:33 |
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szabgab |
El_Che: you mean opencsw ? |
| 09:33 |
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El_Che |
what opencsw brings to the table is automatic dependcy install and modules |
| 09:34 |
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El_Che |
so creating a parallel distribution will eat my time resources |
| 09:34 |
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El_Che |
I'll beter use the odd minutes left and right to get an ubuntu package built |
| 09:34 |
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szabgab |
oh if that's what they do then its's great |
| 09:35 |
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azawawi |
szabgab: perl_workshop.il and in english? :) |
| 09:35 |
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El_Che |
they are very positive about perl and it's one of their main projects for their up to date architecture |
| 09:35 |
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szabgab |
azawawi: there were a few guests so some of the speakers switched to English |
| 09:36 |
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El_Che |
szabgab: I got the smoke testing up and running, and now looking at creating a cpan smoke server |
| 09:36 |
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El_Che |
I am working with the pkgutil tool, to modernize the code base so we can test it |
| 09:37 |
|
El_Che |
all while keeping with his demands: one file, runnable from perl 5.6 something |
| 09:37 |
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El_Che |
etc |
| 09:37 |
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szabgab |
El_Che++ |
| 09:37 |
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El_Che |
he was impressed by the runnable module trick |
| 09:39 |
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azawawi |
strangely... a list of stuff that is related to "Perl workshop in Israel" is "Marvel Avengers Assemble (2012) Watch" :) |
| 09:39 |
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azawawi |
hehe |
| 09:40 |
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El_Che |
szabgab: I share something for Perl Weekly on my g+ stream |
| 09:40 |
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azawawi |
El_Che: so what's your first Sun machine? :) |
| 09:40 |
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El_Che |
szabgab: about padre @ solaris |
| 09:41 |
|
El_Che |
I need to find/manipulate a python guy to build wxwidgets |
| 09:41 |
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El_Che |
:) |
| 09:41 |
|
El_Che |
just kidding |
| 09:41 |
|
El_Che |
let me think |
| 09:41 |
|
El_Che |
well |
| 09:41 |
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El_Che |
it depends of first to use of first to be "mine" |
| 09:42 |
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azawawi |
El_Che: first one you 'worked' on |
| 09:43 |
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azawawi |
szabgab: I see only two search results for "Perl Workshop in Israel, 2012" in YouTube... any other? |
| 09:43 |
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El_Che |
it was a unknow 1U machine (2.5) I got access in 1997: that's how I got into unix |
| 09:44 |
|
El_Che |
a shell account to run an irc client |
| 09:44 |
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El_Che |
I was a student working at a ISP |
| 09:44 |
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El_Che |
I knew one command ircII |
| 09:44 |
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El_Che |
:) |
| 09:44 |
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El_Che |
then I got BitchX and I was l33t :) |
| 09:45 |
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azawawi |
El_Che: my first machine was a donated Fujitsu machine that my university did not upgrade its memory... |
| 09:46 |
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azawawi |
what's the most cool Perl workshop in the world? :) |
| 09:46 |
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El_Che |
pp200? |
| 09:46 |
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El_Che |
pp250? |
| 09:46 |
|
azawawi |
dont know |
| 09:46 |
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szabgab |
El_Che: thanks for the link |
| 09:46 |
|
El_Che |
the debian perl guys do an incredible job |
| 09:46 |
|
azawawi |
Debian defines server stability... |
| 09:46 |
|
El_Che |
and freedom |
| 09:47 |
|
El_Che |
and package management |
| 09:47 |
|
El_Che |
and packaging best-practices |
| 09:47 |
|
El_Che |
and community organizing |
| 09:47 |
|
azawawi |
szabgab: ubuntu 8.04 running padre website? |
| 09:47 |
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El_Che |
and flamewars in malinglists :) |
| 09:47 |
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szabgab |
azawawi: what? |
| 09:47 |
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azawawi |
El_Che: and why do you embed other people source code in Wx::Scintilla :) |
| 09:48 |
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szabgab |
azawawi: oh yes |
| 09:48 |
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szabgab |
I am planning to move all that to a new server |
| 09:49 |
|
azawawi |
any plans to move to github? :) |
| 09:49 |
|
azawawi |
or... code.google.com? |
| 09:49 |
|
szabgab |
the server? |
| 09:49 |
|
azawawi |
the repo |
| 09:49 |
|
szabgab |
I don't have any such plans |
| 09:50 |
|
szabgab |
though we could move the PAdre repos to github |
| 09:50 |
|
El_Che |
now that you're talking about infrastructure, fix the bugtracker :) |
| 09:50 |
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szabgab |
as a start |
| 09:50 |
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szabgab |
El_Che: what is the problem with the bugtracker? |
| 09:50 |
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szabgab |
does it have bugs? |
| 09:50 |
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szabgab |
isn't that its purpose? |
| 09:50 |
|
El_Che |
"knock,knock" |
| 09:50 |
|
El_Che |
"sorry guys, I have I problem" |
| 09:51 |
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El_Che |
"but I can nog get into the bugtracker" |
| 09:51 |
|
El_Che |
"wait for szabgab to show up, he'll open the registration" |
| 09:51 |
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szabgab |
and then you type: |
| 09:51 |
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szabgab |
Hyppolit: trac! |
| 09:51 |
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Hyppolit |
Trac registration opened for 5 minutes. Please visit http://padre.perlide.org/trac/register to register |
| 09:51 |
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El_Che |
that's impressive, really |
| 09:51 |
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szabgab |
it has been there for a year now I think ? |
| 09:51 |
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szabgab |
:) |
| 09:52 |
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El_Che |
but less geeky people do not connect to irc to file a bug |
| 09:52 |
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El_Che |
they may consider login in to facebook or gmail, gtalk, msn, but irc? |
| 09:52 |
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El_Che |
::) |
| 09:52 |
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szabgab |
we have been in this discussin several times already |
| 09:52 |
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azawawi |
basically i see code.google.com the most user-friendly to people |
| 09:52 |
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azawawi |
and they support svn/hg/git |
| 09:54 |
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El_Che |
I like the svn setup we have, it's for developers, so they'll manage |
| 09:54 |
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El_Che |
I don't like the looks of trac |
| 09:54 |
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szabgab |
azawawi: and is the bug tracking system on google good? |
| 09:54 |
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szabgab |
El_Che: so what bug tracking system do you suggest? |
| 09:54 |
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azawawi |
basically... no need to register... gmail account only... |
| 09:54 |
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szabgab |
shall we switch to bugzilla? |
| 09:54 |
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azawawi |
the problem with bug tracking is the creation of accounts |
| 09:55 |
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azawawi |
not the bug tracking itself |
| 09:55 |
|
azawawi |
in my opinion |
| 09:55 |
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szabgab |
azawawi: and then you will get all the people who refuse to have a google track |
| 09:55 |
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szabgab |
or at least play that game |
| 09:55 |
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azawawi |
for *newbie*s |
| 09:55 |
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azawawi |
same goes for github |
| 09:55 |
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El_Che |
szabgab: good point |
| 09:56 |
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El_Che |
at a time in history when I needed to setup something similar I also choose trac |
| 09:56 |
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El_Che |
chose |
| 09:56 |
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szabgab |
so will someone write a 10 lines long script that will provide a web interface to create an account after confirmation with e-mail address? |
| 09:56 |
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Hyppolit |
Trac registration closed |
| 09:58 |
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szabgab |
can any of you reproduce the crash mj41 reported? |
| 09:58 |
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azawawi |
where is it? |
| 09:59 |
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azawawi |
I crash padre 0.94 like 4 out of 10 when I am developing plugins.. |
| 09:59 |
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szabgab |
https://gist.github.com/1999845 |
| 10:01 |
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bowtie_ |
gm |
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szabgab |
bowtie_: gm |
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bowtie_ |
mj41 issue is he needs ORLite 1.96 |
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szabgab |
I hope you did not get the feeling that I was criticizing your work with those tickets |
| 10:02 |
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szabgab |
I love the new debugger |
| 10:02 |
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szabgab |
I just would like to get those things further improved |
| 10:02 |
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szabgab |
to be friendly to people who are not familiar with the perl debugger |
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bowtie_ |
I can not view his link until I get a time out from |
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bowtie_ |
a248.e.akamai.net |
| 10:02 |
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szabgab |
or perl |
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bowtie_ |
so IMHO git hub is S*** |
| 10:04 |
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azawawi |
szabgab: do you know that i get like 10-15 emails from scintilla's sf bugtracker like everyday |
| 10:04 |
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szabgab |
azawawi: of course I did not know, but what does that mean? |
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szabgab |
or what are you comparing it with? |
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azawawi |
"Scintilla 3.0.4 (just released) is a minor bug fix release" |
| 10:05 |
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azawawi |
szabgab: we need to shake up those old trac tickets |
| 10:06 |
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szabgab |
ah you want to get more e-mails from Padre trac as well? |
| 10:07 |
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azawawi |
basically we need to trim old obsolete trac tickets |
| 10:09 |
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azawawi |
how about we trim Padre core? |
| 10:10 |
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azawawi |
and move stuff into plugins |
| 10:10 |
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azawawi |
maybe it is the coffee im drinking |
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szabgab |
azawawi: I am not sure, I am right now cannot even really concentrate as my kids are around |
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szabgab |
coming and going |
| 10:12 |
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szabgab |
hmm |
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El_Che |
azawawi: this was the fist sun machine I was root (bow before me): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/[…]nterprise_450.JPG |
| 10:12 |
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szabgab |
I am going to have 2 perl classes with 14 people each soon |
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El_Che |
azawawi: it was great to sit |
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El_Che |
szabgab: good |
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El_Che |
szabgab: in israel? |
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szabgab |
well, azawawi might disagree with that but yes in israel :) |
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El_Che |
hehe |
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bowtie_ |
brb |
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El_Che |
I love when the english call lunch , "tea" |
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azawawi |
szabgab: have fun |
| 10:16 |
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azawawi |
one thing to think about in Padre architecture is the weakness of its event system |
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azawawi |
we have none :) |
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szabgab |
azawawi: isn't that the wx event system we should use? |
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szabgab |
what iother events would be there? |
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azawawi |
look at the big picture :) |
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azawawi |
im a little plugin responding to events |
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szabgab |
I need to correct |
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szabgab |
I'll have 2 PERL trainings :*) |
| 10:17 |
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azawawi |
i need to access all of padre's wx events |
| 10:17 |
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azawawi |
not through document |
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azawawi |
not through editor |
| 10:17 |
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szabgab |
the client in both plases insist on the capitalization |
| 10:17 |
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szabgab |
places too |
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azawawi |
hmmm |
| 10:18 |
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* azawawi |
thinks of forking Padre |
| 10:18 |
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azawawi |
evil :) |
| 10:19 |
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azawawi |
Padre => Pedro |
| 10:19 |
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azawawi |
i'll fork padre in a padre plugin :) |
| 10:19 |
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azawawi |
or isnt that Swarm already? :) |
| 10:21 |
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El_Che |
DWIMPadre |
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azawawi |
SimplePadre |
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azawawi |
Pedro |
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szabgab |
Padrito |
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azawawi |
:) |
| 10:23 |
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azawawi |
Padre++ |
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azawawi |
:) |
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azawawi |
::Moose plugin experiment was a complete success |
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azawawi |
it delivered snippets |
| 10:27 |
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azawawi |
and a future Wx GUI designer... :) |
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azawawi |
you may just code gen" or anything but it is the basis of something greater... |
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azawawi |
something more evil :) |
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azawawi |
El_Che: you there? |
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azawawi |
El_Che: $who am i |
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user_5355 |
hmmm, Padre F2 help does not know about "for"?!? |
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user_5355 |
Can I have Padre to show hints about Perl Syntax? i.e., if I enter "for", it would tell me the for loop syntax? |
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azawawi |
user_5355: that's a problem with perldocs... it is not context-sensitive ready |
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azawawi |
user_5355: and hi :) |
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azawawi |
user_5355: so if i try to find where is the for loop syntax... it would be in perlsyn |
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azawawi |
user_5355: http://perldoc.perl.org/perlsyn.html#For-Loops |
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user_5355 |
hi ok. so then I need the www... I cannot have syntax hints then? |
| 10:35 |
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azawawi |
not at the moment |
| 10:35 |
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szabgab |
I think we do have those |
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szabgab |
called call tips |
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szabgab |
view /show call tips |
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azawawi |
user_5355: you can also try snippets :) |
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szabgab |
I think that's what user_5355 meant |
| 10:36 |
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szabgab |
though F2 handling it would be even nicer |
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azawawi |
szabgab: that would be perl functions |
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user_5355 |
yes. I've turned "show call tips" on - but nothing happens when I enter "for". or unless. Or foreach. |
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azawawi |
user_5355: enter "print" ... it is only for perl functions |
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azawawi |
szabgab: http://perldoc.perl.org/search.html?q=foreach # .... |
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szabgab |
azawawi: but that is controlled by the share/languages/perl5/perl5.yml |
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szabgab |
file |
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szabgab |
so we can add for and foreach there |
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user_5355 |
hmm ok. I rreckon as a beginner I have to use the www. I hoped it could be done from within padre... |
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azawawi |
szabgab: yup |
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azawawi |
szabgab: but we can update the perl snippet and it is a win win... |
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szabgab |
user_5355: I'll ad for and foreach now |
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azawawi |
szabgab: snippet + help ? :) |
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azawawi |
hmm |
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szabgab |
for now to the calltips |
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szabgab |
and the snippets could also do some nice things |
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azawawi |
btw embedded perlsyn links failed because of a problem with wxhtml component |
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azawawi |
basically if you SetPage(...) |
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szabgab |
brb |
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azawawi |
SetPage($help_html_string) |
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azawawi |
you cannot get make it jump links properly... |
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azawawi |
user_5355: btw, have you tried perlfind? |
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user_5355 |
no. |
| 10:41 |
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azawawi |
cpan App::perlfind |
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azawawi |
or better |
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azawawi |
cpanm App::perlfind |
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azawawi |
and then |
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azawawi |
perlfind for |
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szabgab |
and I am also wroking on my keywords: |
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szabgab |
http://szabgab.com/keywords.html |
| 10:43 |
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azawawi |
szabgab: how about also PODing them? :) |
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azawawi |
szabgab: in a module that we can reuse |
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szabgab |
what do you mean by PODing them? |
| 10:43 |
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szabgab |
all my posts? |
| 10:43 |
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szabgab |
no thans :) |
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user_5355 |
thanks. I want to say it's no problem for me to find syntax details. But from the beginners view call tips would be extremely helpful. I accidentally used commas inside for brackets - the code worked but with no increment - with appropriate call tips this wouldn't have happened. |
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azawawi |
user_5355: with TextMate-like snippets, you wont have to type that :) |
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azawawi |
user_5355: im working on improving them in the Padre::Plugin::Moose and soon Padre::Plugin::Snippets |
| 10:45 |
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azawawi |
user_5355: cpan Padre::Plugin::Moose |
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azawawi |
user_5355: i know your pain... i wrote that F2 help system... :( |
| 10:45 |
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user_5355 |
I'll have a look at those plugins. Work on Windows? |
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azawawi |
user_5355: im a windows user :) |
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azawawi |
user_5355: cpan Padre::Plugin::Moose # to get http://padre.perlide.org/trac/[…]/PadrePluginMoose |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r18634 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18634 |
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Hyppolit |
add for and foreach to call tips |
| 10:46 |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/share/languages/perl5/ |
| 10:46 |
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szabgab |
user_5355: if you find other things missing from the calltips let me know |
| 10:47 |
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szabgab |
or if you have improvements to the text |
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azawawi |
user_5355: the file is in http://padre.perlide.org/trac/[…]s/perl5/perl5.yml |
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azawawi |
szabgab: i develop things in plugins and Alias wants them in core :) |
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azawawi |
szabgab: my precious :) |
| 10:49 |
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szabgab |
I don't understamnd why push them in core? |
| 10:49 |
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szabgab |
we can have a smaller core and have packages that include the plug-ins as well |
| 10:49 |
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szabgab |
like the DWIM Perl thingy |
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azawawi |
that's what i mean :) |
| 10:50 |
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azawawi |
then less deps for Padre |
| 10:50 |
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user_5355 |
Can anyone tell me how to install the Moose plugin on Padre Windows? (I have never installed a plugin yet) |
| 10:50 |
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azawawi |
and deps on plugins |
| 10:50 |
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azawawi |
sure |
| 10:50 |
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azawawi |
what's the version of your padre? |
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szabgab |
user_5355: type cpan Padre::Plugin::Moose |
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user_5355 |
latest |
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azawawi |
szabgab: easier :) |
| 10:50 |
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szabgab |
on the command line |
| 10:51 |
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user_5355 |
into cmd.exe? |
| 10:51 |
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user_5355 |
ah ok |
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szabgab |
user_5355: yes |
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azawawi |
user_5355: you can also search for it in CPAN explorer |
| 10:51 |
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azawawi |
user_5355: and then click install :) |
| 10:51 |
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szabgab |
does that work in the DWIM Perl distro? |
| 10:52 |
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azawawi |
user_5355: View/CPAN explorer # to show it |
| 10:52 |
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szabgab |
user_5355: are you using it from the DWIM Perl? |
| 10:52 |
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user_5355 |
yup. |
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azawawi |
user_5355: cpanm Padre::Plugin::Moose in "Command Prompt" |
| 10:53 |
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azawawi |
user_5355: or use "View/CPAN explorer", type Padre::Plugin::Moose in the search field and click on it and click "Install" |
| 10:54 |
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azawawi |
szabgab: what's the license on using http://szabgab.com/unique-valu[…]rray-in-perl.html ? |
| 10:54 |
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szabgab |
azawawi: what do you mean? |
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szabgab |
by "using"? |
| 10:55 |
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azawawi |
szabgab: the Perl tutorial you're working? |
| 10:55 |
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szabgab |
I am selling the tutorila in eBook format |
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azawawi |
szabgab: basically bundling it as a Padre plugin to link to your website :) |
| 10:56 |
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user_5355 |
I seemed to have installed padre::plugin::moose via cmd/cpan, restarted Padre, but where will I see it? |
| 10:56 |
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szabgab |
I ahve to think about that |
| 10:56 |
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szabgab |
I am not sure I'd like the idea of just giving it away |
| 10:56 |
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azawawi |
user_5355: Tools/Plugin-Manager/Moose and then click "Enable" |
| 10:56 |
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szabgab |
but I'd love the idea of padre having links to specific posts that explain various things in perl |
| 10:57 |
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user_5355 |
ok, it's not there. |
| 10:57 |
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szabgab |
I got some fails when I tried to install it a few hours ago |
| 10:57 |
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szabgab |
so I had to install something separately but that's on linux |
| 10:57 |
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azawawi |
user_5355: cpanm --notest Padre::Plugin::Moose # will work :) |
| 10:57 |
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user_5355 |
And cpan explorer says "error executing cpanm" when I try to install it this way... |
| 10:58 |
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user_5355 |
ok i try |
| 10:58 |
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azawawi |
user_5355: what version of Padre are you using? |
| 10:58 |
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azawawi |
user_5355: Help/About |
| 10:58 |
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azawawi |
user_5355: and then information |
| 10:58 |
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user_5355 |
oh yes, I overreas "Done!Warning: Cannot install padre::plugin::moose, don't know what it is." |
| 10:59 |
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azawawi |
cpanm --version # works or not in "Command Prompt"? |
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user_5355 |
1.5007 |
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szabgab |
isn't that case sensitive? |
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szabgab |
cpanm Padre::Plugin::Moose |
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azawawi |
yup... case sensitive |
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user_5355 |
yes! |
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azawawi |
szabgab: installing moose plugin should work out of the box since Moose is already installed in DWIMPerl :) |
| 11:01 |
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azawawi |
szabgab: what about adding Padre::Plugin::Moose to DWIMPerl |
| 11:01 |
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user_5355 |
Successfully installed Padre-Plugin-Moose-0.18 |
| 11:01 |
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azawawi |
user_5355: restart Padre, tools/plugin-manager/Moose and click Enable |
| 11:02 |
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azawawi |
szabgab: so linking to "Perl tutorial" from a plugin is good or bad for business? :) |
| 11:02 |
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szabgab |
azawawi: it will be in the next release of DWIM Perl for Windows |
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azawawi |
szabgab: cool thanks |
| 11:02 |
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szabgab |
linking to the tutorial is good |
| 11:03 |
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szabgab |
distributing it might not be so good |
| 11:04 |
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szabgab |
azawawi: what other plugin should be distributed? |
| 11:04 |
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azawawi |
::PDL and ::Snippet once im finished with them |
| 11:05 |
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user_5355 |
afk |
| 11:05 |
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azawawi |
::Snippets or ::Snippet? |
| 11:05 |
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azawawi |
or ::Snip :) |
| 11:05 |
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szabgab |
sure |
| 11:06 |
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azawawi |
now another question if you have the time |
| 11:06 |
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szabgab |
and we can put a sticker on it "Made in Middle-east" :) |
| 11:06 |
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shadowpaste |
"bowtie" at 217.168.150.38 pasted "should i be conserned with:" (8 lines) at http://paste.scsys.co.uk/185741 |
| 11:06 |
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azawawi |
bowtie: where is that? |
| 11:07 |
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azawawi |
bowtie: what's the command line? |
| 11:07 |
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szabgab |
azawawi: is bowtie asking if we want to require 5.10 for PAdre? |
| 11:07 |
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shadowpaste |
"bowtie" at 217.168.150.38 pasted "caussed by" (24 lines) at http://paste.scsys.co.uk/185742 |
| 11:07 |
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szabgab |
I would be ok with that |
| 11:07 |
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azawawi |
szabgab: i upgrade Wx::Scintilla to get the // 5.10 syntax |
| 11:07 |
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azawawi |
szabgab: only not to be used lol by Alias++ |
| 11:08 |
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bowtie |
azawawi, I ran xt test against debug-client, and got that error |
| 11:09 |
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szabgab |
I am going back and forth to the kitchen preparing lunch |
| 11:09 |
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azawawi |
bowtie: i see no xt directly in Debug::Client |
| 11:09 |
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azawawi |
bowtie: s/directly/dir/ :) |
| 11:09 |
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azawawi |
bowtie: and hi :) |
| 11:09 |
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szabgab |
but really why not move Padre to 5.10 ? |
| 11:09 |
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azawawi |
you're the chief |
| 11:09 |
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bowtie |
other wise I am ready to push 0.18 up |
| 11:09 |
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azawawi |
why not to 5.12 ... |
| 11:10 |
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bowtie |
5.10 is not supported now |
| 11:11 |
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azawawi |
bowtie: which test is failing? |
| 11:11 |
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azawawi |
bowtie: again? |
| 11:12 |
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bowtie |
when I run xt/minimumversion.t |
| 11:12 |
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azawawi |
bowtie: this is a bad recipe for PerlTidy disaster... http://paste.scsys.co.uk/185742 :) |
| 11:12 |
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azawawi |
bowtie: PerlTidy expects semicolons |
| 11:13 |
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bowtie |
or so it's as I thought then, minimumversion dose not like dsl |
| 11:14 |
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azawawi |
DSL is bad... i removed it from ::Moose when i saw it... |
| 11:14 |
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azawawi |
Perl tidy and see what i mean :) |
| 11:14 |
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azawawi |
szabgab: ping |
| 11:15 |
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azawawi |
bowtie: dmake test # works on DWIMPerl v7 |
| 11:15 |
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szabgab |
azawawi: pong |
| 11:15 |
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azawawi |
bowtie: # for Debug::Client |
| 11:15 |
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szabgab |
but I am mostly cleaning potatoes these minutes |
| 11:15 |
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bowtie |
azawawi, yes |
| 11:16 |
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azawawi |
szabgab: after trying the registered document approach for Padre plugin i have a couple of notes |
| 11:16 |
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azawawi |
szabgab: imagine two plugins |
| 11:16 |
|
azawawi |
szabgab: that want to subclass ::Document::Perl |
| 11:17 |
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azawawi |
szabgab: each of them want to act on application/x-perl mimetype also |
| 11:17 |
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azawawi |
szabgab: like PDL and Moose |
| 11:17 |
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szabgab |
keep typping I'll be back in afew minutes |
| 11:17 |
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azawawi |
szabgab: each one of them want to add their syntax sugar to Padre via a plugin |
| 11:17 |
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azawawi |
szabgab: the approach we're doing it is plain wrong... |
| 11:18 |
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azawawi |
szabgab: the last one registered in Padre gets the document |
| 11:18 |
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azawawi |
szabgab: and kaboom.. boom.... snip... Snap.... :) |
| 11:18 |
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azawawi |
szabgab: one of them owns the Perl document. The other is ignored |
| 11:20 |
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azawawi |
szabgab: so we need a way for Padre to decide which one is using the document at the moment |
| 11:20 |
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bowtie |
https://metacpan.org/module/BO[…]b/Debug/Client.pm |
| 11:21 |
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azawawi |
szabgab: i took a look at TextMate |
| 11:21 |
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bowtie |
cpanm -v http://cpan.metacpan.org/autho[…]lient-0.18.tar.gz |
| 11:21 |
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azawawi |
cpanm --notest :) |
| 11:21 |
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bowtie |
that's a bit raw |
| 11:21 |
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szabgab |
back |
| 11:22 |
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azawawi |
szabgab: please read the above and let me know :) |
| 11:23 |
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szabgab |
read |
| 11:23 |
|
szabgab |
agree |
| 11:23 |
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szabgab |
but I am nost sure what could be the solution |
| 11:23 |
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szabgab |
what do other editors do? |
| 11:23 |
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azawawi |
szabgab: scope/subscope |
| 11:24 |
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azawawi |
szabgab: application/x-perl => scope |
| 11:24 |
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azawawi |
szabgab: HTML => subscope |
| 11:24 |
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azawawi |
szabgab: Moose => subscope |
| 11:24 |
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azawawi |
szabgab: so when a user changes the current type of the document and its subscope |
| 11:25 |
|
azawawi |
szabgab: the document behaves like that way |
| 11:25 |
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szabgab |
that can help but I am sure there can be plugins that are at te same subscope level |
| 11:25 |
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szabgab |
actually what if there was a plugin for all Perl documentsand one for Moose |
| 11:26 |
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szabgab |
I guess the more specific should win for certasin actions |
| 11:26 |
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szabgab |
or each one should get its chance to do some damage |
| 11:26 |
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szabgab |
and then one just needs to decide on order |
| 11:26 |
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azawawi |
same for HTML |
| 11:27 |
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azawawi |
HTML / Mojo | Dancer | ..etc |
| 11:27 |
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azawawi |
that's one |
| 11:27 |
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azawawi |
and the second |
| 11:27 |
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azawawi |
more events exposed to plugins |
| 11:28 |
|
azawawi |
the current system is too-wx... |
| 11:28 |
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azawawi |
we need to wrap with a better thing |
| 11:28 |
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azawawi |
$self->main->event_manager->listen($event_type, sub { }); |
| 11:29 |
|
azawawi |
more jQuery like though |
| 11:29 |
|
azawawi |
$self->main->event_manager->listen($scope, $event_type, sub { }); |
| 11:30 |
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azawawi |
$scope = "applicaton/x-perl.moose' |
| 11:30 |
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azawawi |
$scope = "applicaton/x-perl.mouse' |
| 11:30 |
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azawawi |
$scope = "applicaton/x-perl.pdl' |
| 11:30 |
|
azawawi |
...etc |
| 11:30 |
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szabgab |
and then also .mixed :) |
| 11:31 |
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azawawi |
so you padre gives you a listener to all document of a certain criteria |
| 11:31 |
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azawawi |
s/document/documents/ |
| 11:31 |
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azawawi |
hence why do i need to subclass a document via a plugin... |
| 11:32 |
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azawawi |
but there is an extra thing that Padre can provide |
| 11:32 |
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azawawi |
for each new document, the same listeners are applied |
| 11:32 |
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azawawi |
so i simply listen to document and i dont care about the timeline |
| 11:33 |
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szabgab |
what timeline? |
| 11:33 |
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azawawi |
bowtie: lots of new deps on Debug::Client |
| 11:33 |
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azawawi |
szabgab: a new document was born after i added the listener to the previous set |
| 11:34 |
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azawawi |
bowtie: Debug::Client installs on DWIMPerl v7 and ubuntu 11.10 |
| 11:34 |
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azawawi |
bowtie++ |
| 11:35 |
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azawawi |
szabgab: the web is cool because of jQuery's awesomeness... |
| 11:35 |
|
azawawi |
szabgab: it is a mini-SQL language within... |
| 11:35 |
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azawawi |
szabgab: if we can duplicate that for our padre objects and simplify |
| 11:35 |
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azawawi |
szabgab: plugin will not depend on wx a lot |
| 11:36 |
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azawawi |
szabgab: hence future changes will not impact the plugin ecosystem |
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azawawi |
szabgab: you were right to add plugins to Padre |
| 11:36 |
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azawawi |
szabgab: but we were all side-tracked with adding feature to core and forgetting the plugins... |
| 11:36 |
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azawawi |
szabgab: vim focused on core |
| 11:37 |
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azawawi |
szabgab: and plugin |
| 11:37 |
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szabgab |
sounds good, wy not put this together in a better formatted text and send it as an e-mail as well to padre-dev? that could be also used later as documentation for thisP) |
| 11:37 |
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azawawi |
sure |
| 11:37 |
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azawawi |
and i need to reply to Chris about PDL |
| 11:37 |
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szabgab |
:) |
| 11:38 |
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azawawi |
any comments on the snippet thing |
| 11:38 |
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azawawi |
enhancements... etc |
| 11:38 |
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szabgab |
I need to check the potatos in the kitchen :) |
| 11:39 |
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azawawi |
im talking about padre and you're cooking pooo-teee-tooes :) |
| 11:41 |
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azawawi |
bowtie: same goes for ::Debug... we should have stayed in plugin world :) |
| 11:41 |
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azawawi |
bowtie: my bad for suggesting the move to core |
| 11:41 |
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azawawi |
bowtie: we can move faster if we're plugin-based |
| 11:42 |
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azawawi |
bowtie: and the v5.8.x is something we can forget... :) |
| 11:42 |
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bowtie |
azawawi, you want to push it back out? |
| 11:42 |
|
bowtie |
Debug requires 5.8.6 |
| 11:44 |
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bowtie |
required for threads and perl -d |
| 11:45 |
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azawawi |
bowtie: it is the approach Perl core is going anyways |
| 11:46 |
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bowtie |
azawawi, yes I have noticed the pumpkin is trying to remove the bloat |
| 11:46 |
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azawawi |
yup |
| 11:46 |
|
azawawi |
we have bloat |
| 11:46 |
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azawawi |
a lot of it |
| 11:47 |
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azawawi |
i can fix it |
| 11:47 |
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azawawi |
but i need a faster release cycle |
| 11:47 |
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szabgab |
azawawi: my suggestion would be to change Padre in SVN to require 5.10 but not start tio use any of the features yet |
| 11:47 |
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azawawi |
and releasing the whole of padre takes time |
| 11:47 |
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szabgab |
and see if Alias complains? |
| 11:47 |
|
szabgab |
then we can decide again before the next release |
| 11:47 |
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azawawi |
Alias is wearing a red rose... and not here :) |
| 11:48 |
|
szabgab |
we used to have weekly release |
| 11:48 |
|
azawawi |
https://metacpan.org/author/ADAMK |
| 11:48 |
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szabgab |
red rose? |
| 11:48 |
|
azawawi |
maybe gonna release something big |
| 11:48 |
|
szabgab |
oh |
| 11:48 |
|
szabgab |
isn't he leaving to a company tha usese .NET ? |
| 11:49 |
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szabgab |
then he will soon stop contributing, I guess |
| 11:49 |
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azawawi |
he's our great refactor-er :) |
| 11:49 |
|
azawawi |
i respect his work |
| 11:50 |
|
azawawi |
but sometimes i like to bug him :) |
| 11:52 |
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szabgab |
so what do you think about my evil 5.10 plans? |
| 11:52 |
|
szabgab |
and El_Che and bowtie what do you think? |
| 11:52 |
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bowtie |
azawawi, I will apply Debbuger patch for 5.15.8+ later to day and bump require to 0.18, I will let the cpan mirrors catch up first |
| 11:52 |
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azawawi |
bowtie: cool |
| 11:53 |
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azawawi |
szabgab: sounds cool. but i say go for 5.12 :) |
| 11:53 |
|
szabgab |
let's do it slowly |
| 11:53 |
|
azawawi |
ok let us plan it |
| 11:53 |
|
szabgab |
I am sure there are still people using Padre on 5.10 |
| 11:53 |
|
azawawi |
5.16 in may 2012 right? |
| 11:53 |
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szabgab |
:) |
| 11:54 |
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szabgab |
and then all the Linux users will simply kill us |
| 11:54 |
|
bowtie |
szabgab, as for moving to 5.10, thats cool by me, we have talked before about, a tweak to prefs to enable the selection of a local perl, that should satisfy the 5.8 boys |
| 11:54 |
|
bowtie |
5.12 gets my vote |
| 11:55 |
|
azawawi |
5.12 ++ |
| 11:55 |
|
azawawi |
why are we afraid... we need to change :) |
| 11:55 |
|
szabgab |
bowtie: we have that feature already |
| 11:55 |
|
szabgab |
at least for execution |
| 11:55 |
|
szabgab |
not for the docs and other things |
| 11:56 |
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bowtie |
szabgab, but it dose not understand perlbrew |
| 11:56 |
|
szabgab |
the question is not so much of change |
| 11:56 |
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azawawi |
bowtie: i guess we need a new P:P:Run system |
| 11:57 |
|
azawawi |
brb |
| 11:57 |
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szabgab |
if we had a binary package for all 3 operating systems that could run and use the local perl as external then it would not be an issue |
| 11:57 |
|
szabgab |
bowtie: what does it need to know about perlbrew? |
| 11:58 |
|
bowtie |
szabgab, enable those who need to test on obsolete version in a local lib like perlbrew |
| 11:59 |
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bowtie |
szabgab, so that they can switch by clicking |
| 11:59 |
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szabgab |
yes, that would be a nice addition |
| 12:01 |
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bowtie |
szabgab, see and next 6 lines http://irclog.perlgeek.de/padr[…]2-03-07#i_5255865 |
| 12:01 |
|
Hyppolit |
svn: r18635 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18635 |
| 12:01 |
|
Hyppolit |
require perl 5.10 as an experiment. Lets see if any of the Padre developers complain |
| 12:01 |
|
Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/ trunk/Padre/script/ |
| 12:02 |
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szabgab |
bow are you asking why were we using 5.8.5 so far? |
| 12:02 |
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szabgab |
bowtie: ^^^ |
| 12:02 |
|
Hyppolit |
svn: r18636 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18636 |
| 12:02 |
|
Hyppolit |
Fix typo in Changes. szabgab++ |
| 12:02 |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/ |
| 12:03 |
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bowtie |
szabgab, no, just that p5p consider 5.12.0 done, and soon to fall out of there view |
| 12:04 |
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szabgab |
that's their choice |
| 12:04 |
|
szabgab |
that does not mean people are not still stuck on old versions of perl |
| 12:04 |
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bowtie |
szabgab, it just proves you were correct to release DWIMPerl on 5.14.x |
| 12:05 |
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azawawi |
people need the latest. This describes their feeling http://oylenshpeegul.typepad.c[…]wrong-with-v.html |
| 12:05 |
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azawawi |
"...If that is an accident of history, then it's a happy one." |
| 12:06 |
|
azawawi |
google is changing things |
| 12:06 |
|
azawawi |
people expect to have the latest |
| 12:06 |
|
bowtie |
being constrained by the past, for no good reason is silly |
| 12:06 |
|
azawawi |
take a look at google chrome |
| 12:06 |
|
azawawi |
updates to the latest |
| 12:06 |
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bowtie |
yuck |
| 12:06 |
|
azawawi |
silently |
| 12:07 |
|
szabgab |
people are also afraid of change |
| 12:07 |
|
bowtie |
with built in urchin :( |
| 12:07 |
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azawawi |
sure but you need to make them :) |
| 12:07 |
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azawawi |
if you make it seemless, they dont mind |
| 12:08 |
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azawawi |
that's what management is concerned about |
| 12:08 |
|
azawawi |
cost of change |
| 12:08 |
|
azawawi |
not change :) |
| 12:08 |
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szabgab |
I am not sure what are we talking about and what is your position :) |
| 12:08 |
|
mj41 |
bowtie: thanks for ORLite tip ... it fixed my delete_where crashes |
| 12:08 |
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bowtie |
that's called technophobia normally applies to lay people |
| 12:08 |
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szabgab |
we know that every change has its risk |
| 12:09 |
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szabgab |
the question who bares those risks |
| 12:09 |
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szabgab |
I don't want to do that for random C*O |
| 12:09 |
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bowtie |
mj41, there is a ticket with more info inside, if you look |
| 12:09 |
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azawawi |
mj41: great work on the remote ssh editing plugin |
| 12:10 |
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szabgab |
ok, lunch now |
| 12:10 |
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szabgab |
& |
| 12:10 |
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azawawi |
bowtie: cl<tab> :) |
| 12:11 |
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azawawi |
bowtie: i guess Alias is going to change q{use base ... } :) |
| 12:12 |
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bowtie |
mj41, I can not view your git pade or any other, times out on a248.e.akamai.net |
| 12:13 |
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bowtie |
now we can use parent and drop base, for most cases, and exceptions INC |
| 12:14 |
|
Hyppolit |
svn: r18637 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18637 |
| 12:14 |
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Hyppolit |
[P-P-Moose] Removed ${3} from the end of a snippet. It may be needed by snipMate but not required by us :) |
| 12:14 |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre-Plugin-Moose/share/snippets/ |
| 12:14 |
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azawawi |
bowtie: how about module_starter.yml ? :) |
| 12:15 |
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azawawi |
bowtie: with several flavors |
| 12:15 |
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azawawi |
bowtie: module<tab> ? |
| 12:15 |
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bowtie |
azawawi, how are you going to display options, as in vim video |
| 12:17 |
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bowtie |
azawawi, how about that test pluging called diff, for second screen, can you make it pop out? |
| 12:18 |
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| 12:20 |
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El_Che |
sorry guys |
| 12:20 |
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El_Che |
you talk a *lot* |
| 12:22 |
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azawawi |
bowtie: 1. like doctype<tab> in html mode? |
| 12:22 |
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azawawi |
El_Che: wake up :) Padre is moving forward... |
| 12:23 |
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azawawi |
bowtie: 2. i do not follow you on the diff thing. Could you explain further? |
| 12:23 |
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azawawi |
bowtie: 2. please :) |
| 12:28 |
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bowtie |
azawawi, you started a plugin, with split screen editing, re diff, hence can you switch editor in to two spaces as and when? |
| 12:33 |
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azawawi |
bowtie: yeah as a feature in core |
| 12:33 |
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azawawi |
bowtie: forgot about it :) |
| 12:33 |
|
* azawawi |
eats peanut-butter chips |
| 12:34 |
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bowtie |
azawawi, but you wrote it :) |
| 12:34 |
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bowtie |
azawawi eats peanut-butter chips? |
| 12:34 |
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bowtie |
picture please |
| 12:36 |
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azawawi |
peanuts-flavored to be exact |
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| 12:38 |
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azawawi |
how can a plugin define an API for others to use |
| 12:39 |
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azawawi |
eval {require P:P:Plugin; P:P:Plugin:call_api; }; # hmmm |
| 12:48 |
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bowtie |
azawawi, chips as in fish, or snacks in a bag, called crisps |
| 12:49 |
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El_Che |
azawawi: you need to define the load order |
| 12:50 |
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azawawi |
snacks |
| 12:51 |
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El_Che |
also for snacks |
| 12:51 |
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El_Che |
ahh |
| 12:51 |
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El_Che |
I ate too much sushi |
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| 12:51 |
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bowtie |
the rice has swelled, why are you surprised :) |
| 12:52 |
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El_Che |
still |
| 12:52 |
|
El_Che |
aaaaaah |
| 12:59 |
|
Hyppolit |
svn: r18638 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18638 |
| 12:59 |
|
Hyppolit |
[Wx-Scintilla] Preparing for release 0.37_05 with the following related Changes: |
| 12:59 |
|
Hyppolit |
- Updated to Scintilla 3.0.4: |
| 12:59 |
|
Hyppolit |
- ECL lexer added. Feature #3488209. |
| 12:59 |
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Hyppolit |
- CPP lexer fixes styling after document comment keywords. Bug #3495445. |
| 12:59 |
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Hyppolit |
- Pascal folder improves handling of some constructs. Feature #3486385. |
| 12:59 |
|
Hyppolit |
- XML lexer avoids entering a bad mode due to complex preprocessor instructions. Bug #3488060. |
| 12:59 |
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Hyppolit |
- Duplicate command is always remembered as a distinct command for undo. Bug #3495836. |
| 12:59 |
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Hyppolit |
- Fix bug where setting an indicator for the whole document would fail. Bug #3487440. |
| 12:59 |
|
Hyppolit |
- Crash fixed for SCI_MOVESELECTEDLINESDOWN with empty vertical selection. Bug #3496403. |
| 12:59 |
|
Hyppolit |
- Fractional widths used for line numbers, character markers and other situations. Bug #3494492. |
| 12:59 |
|
Hyppolit |
- RGBA markers are drawn centred when taller than line. Bug #3494184. |
| 12:59 |
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Hyppolit |
- Image marker drawing problem fixed for markers taller than line. Bug #3493503. |
| 13:00 |
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Hyppolit |
- Markers are drawn horizontally off-centre based on margin type instead of dimensions. Bug #3488696. |
| 13:00 |
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Hyppolit |
- Fold tail markers drawn vertically centred. Feature #3488289. |
| 13:00 |
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Hyppolit |
- Fixed problems with multiple clicks in margin and with mouse actions combined with virtual space. Bug #3484370. |
| 13:00 |
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Hyppolit |
- Fixed bug with using page up and down and not returning to original line. Bug #3485669. |
| 13:00 |
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Hyppolit |
- Down arrow with wrapped text no longer skips lines. Bug #1776560. |
| 13:00 |
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Hyppolit |
- Fix problem with dwell ending immediately due to word wrap. Bug #3484416. |
| 13:00 |
|
Hyppolit |
- Wrapped lines are rewrapped more consistently while resizing window. Bug #3484179. |
| 13:00 |
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Hyppolit |
- Selected line ends are highlighted more consistently. Bug #3484330. |
| 13:00 |
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Hyppolit |
- Redrawing reduced for some marker calls. Feature #3493530. |
| 13:00 |
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Hyppolit |
- No more indexing of inc |
| 13:00 |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Wx-Scintilla/ trunk/Wx-Scintilla/lib/Wx/ trunk/Wx-Scintilla/lib/Wx/Scintilla/ trunk/Wx-Scintilla/wx-scintilla/src/scintilla/include/ trunk/Wx-Scintilla/wx-scintilla/src/scintilla/src/ |
| 13:03 |
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azawawi |
El_Che: so when do you expect Padre on Solaris up & running? :) |
| 13:05 |
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El_Che |
just after Oracle opensources oracle db |
| 13:05 |
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azawawi |
El_Che: and on openCSW? :) |
| 13:05 |
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El_Che |
seriouly, after Oracle killed opensolaris I don't think a lot of people run solaris on their desktop |
| 13:06 |
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El_Che |
azawawi: I need to be careful so they don't make me their perl mantainer :) |
| 13:06 |
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azawawi |
bowtie: http://ubuntutechnical.wordpre[…]dule_path-pixmap/ |
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bowtie |
azawawi, I already have it install, and i still get vast amounts of rubbish in terminal |
| 13:10 |
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El_Che |
say gurus |
| 13:11 |
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El_Che |
does the plugin keyboard shortcuts get added to the preferences summary? |
| 13:12 |
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El_Che |
ok, clicking on that windows kills padre |
| 13:13 |
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Hyppolit |
wiki page http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wiki/DownloadUbuntu changed by azawawi |
| 13:14 |
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bowtie |
El_Che, go look at P-P-SpellCheck, in trunk for how to |
| 13:14 |
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bowtie |
P-P-SpellCheck is 1.25 and needs Padre 0.95 |
| 13:14 |
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El_Che |
howto for what, bowtie ? |
| 13:14 |
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bowtie |
plugin_preferences |
| 13:15 |
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El_Che |
ok |
| 13:16 |
|
El_Che |
now that I have gone ergonomic for my mouse I wanted to print our keyboard shortcuts like I have done for the programs I use often: unity, firefox, outlook webapp (brr), google reader |
| 13:18 |
|
Hyppolit |
svn: r18639 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18639 |
| 13:18 |
|
Hyppolit |
[Wx-Scintilla] Updated Wx::Scintilla::Constant and Changes. Preparing for 0.38 which is in the weekend |
| 13:18 |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Wx-Scintilla/ trunk/Wx-Scintilla/lib/Wx/Scintilla/ |
| 13:19 |
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azawawi |
please install Wx::Scintilla 0.37_05 and report if it is breaking something in your Padre 0.94 |
| 13:25 |
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El_Che |
from trunk? |
| 13:26 |
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El_Che |
Can i tested against Padre trunk? |
| 13:30 |
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azawawi |
one moment plz |
| 13:30 |
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azawawi |
cpanm http://cpan.metacpan.org/autho[…]la-0.37_05.tar.gz |
| 13:33 |
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El_Che |
ok |
| 13:33 |
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El_Che |
running padre trunk with your wx-scintilla |
| 13:36 |
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azawawi |
El_Che: thanks |
| 13:38 |
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azawawi |
El_Che: does ::Moose and snippets work as expected in trunk padre... |
| 13:38 |
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azawawi |
El_Che: ? |
| 13:39 |
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azawawi |
El_Che: i prevented $myself from doing any core work to allocate all that time wasted building padre core on win32 into actual real work :) |
| 13:39 |
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azawawi |
El_Che: more snippets are appreciated |
| 13:40 |
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azawawi |
El_Che: things that are useful like modules you use |
| 13:40 |
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azawawi |
hmmm |
| 13:40 |
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azawawi |
i wonder if one can piggyback the meta spec to provide snippet files for new modules :) |
| 13:40 |
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bowtie |
azawawi, Wx::Scintilla 0.37_05 running against trunk ok |
| 13:41 |
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azawawi |
cool |
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El_Che |
back |
| 13:51 |
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El_Che |
sorry |
| 13:51 |
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El_Che |
someone was at my office |
| 13:54 |
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El_Che |
azawawi: works |
| 13:54 |
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El_Che |
azawawi: do you use google reader? |
| 13:54 |
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El_Che |
some screen html5 effects are cool |
| 13:54 |
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El_Che |
type g then t |
| 13:55 |
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El_Che |
it would be nice for snippets |
| 13:55 |
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El_Che |
but not Wx |
| 13:56 |
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azawawi |
El_Che: let me try it |
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azawawi |
El_Che: cool trick |
| 13:57 |
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* azawawi |
is writing a big email about padre core/plugins and events |
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El_Che |
azawawi: do you see the concept? |
| 14:00 |
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El_Che |
like your eclipse plugin |
| 14:00 |
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El_Che |
type as you go, click if you want |
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El_Che |
and it looks great |
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azawawi |
yup i got it |
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azawawi |
wx can canvas also :) |
| 14:05 |
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El_Che |
really |
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El_Che |
wow |
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azawawi |
dont under estimate it :) |
| 14:05 |
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El_Che |
I will |
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El_Che |
so you will be forced to prove me wrong |
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El_Che |
!buh |
| 14:06 |
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El_Che |
bah |
| 14:06 |
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El_Che |
hey, 1992 called |
| 14:06 |
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El_Che |
it wants their toolkit back |
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El_Che |
:P |
| 14:06 |
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El_Che |
[for the record: jk ] |
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azawawi |
dont force me :) |
| 14:09 |
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El_Che |
no, really I like it |
| 14:09 |
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El_Che |
it reminds me of tk |
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Hyppolit |
wiki page http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wiki/PadreNextGen changed by azawawi |
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Hyppolit |
wiki page http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wiki/PadreNextGen changed by azawawi |
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bowtie |
azawawi, :), have some colour |
| 14:21 |
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Hyppolit |
wiki page http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wiki/PadreNextGen changed by bowtie |
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Hyppolit |
wiki page http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wiki/PadreNextGen changed by azawawi |
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bowtie |
azawawi, are you also going to include extending the menu system and tool bar icons? |
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azawawi |
bowtie: start writing :) |
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azawawi |
i need to go back and figure out how to migrate snippets support outside Moose |
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bowtie |
azawawi, cp, rename, delete unwanted, giggle around a bit :) |
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azawawi |
i think if we apply method modifiers idea to padre, it will be become so much extensible... |
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azawawi |
after/where/before something is created, i want to do something |
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azawawi |
after/where/before something is Y, i want to notified and do something |
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azawawi |
user_5355: welcome |
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azawawi |
El_Che: if Padre was using Moose, could we hotwire it ? :) |
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azawawi |
El_Che: using the meta, to apply on the fly runtime roles to run things when/before/around method X in Padre |
| 14:47 |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r18640 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18640 |
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Hyppolit |
[P-P-Moose] Added q{new} => q{my $instance = ClassName->new} snippet :) |
| 14:47 |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre-Plugin-Moose/share/snippets/ |
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azawawi |
bowtie: ping |
| 14:54 |
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shadowpaste |
"azawawi" at 217.168.150.38 pasted "Why we need Moose in Padre..." (43 lines) at http://paste.scsys.co.uk/185758 |
| 14:57 |
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shadowpaste |
"azawawi" at 217.168.150.38 pasted "Why we need Moose in Padre... Better example" (39 lines) at http://paste.scsys.co.uk/185759 |
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El_Che |
hey |
| 14:59 |
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El_Che |
idd |
| 14:59 |
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El_Che |
that would be pretty cool |
| 14:59 |
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Hyppolit |
wiki page http://padre.perlide.org/trac/[…]hyPadreNeedsMoose changed by azawawi |
| 14:59 |
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El_Che |
and about start up time, I trick as well, load something before Moose :) |
| 14:59 |
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Hyppolit |
wiki page http://padre.perlide.org/trac/[…]hyPadreNeedsMoose changed by azawawi |
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Hyppolit |
wiki page http://padre.perlide.org/trac/[…]hyPadreNeedsMoose changed by azawawi |
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Hyppolit |
wiki page http://padre.perlide.org/trac/[…]hyPadreNeedsMoose changed by azawawi |
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azawawi |
http://google-web-toolkit.goog[…]kage-summary.html |
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Hyppolit |
wiki page http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wiki/PadreNextGen changed by azawawi |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r18641 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18641 |
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Hyppolit |
[P-P-Moose] Removed extra newline from perl.yml |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre-Plugin-Moose/share/snippets/ |
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Hyppolit |
# 1403 : Debugger key bindings (n,s) do not function (closed enhancement) by bowtie [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/[…]et/1403#comment:5 ] |
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azawawi |
bowtie: what do you about WhyPadreNeedsMoose? :) |
| 15:14 |
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azawawi |
bowtie: or why_padre_needs_moose :) |
| 15:17 |
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azawawi |
bowtie: im working with #pdl users to upgrade their padre to 0.94 :) |
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El_Che |
azawawi++ |
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azawawi |
run4flat: welcome |
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run4flat |
azawawi, thanks for inviting. :-) |
| 15:21 |
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azawawi |
you get a free run4flat++ :) |
| 15:21 |
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azawawi |
for each time you visit |
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run4flat |
:-) |
| 15:22 |
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azawawi |
run4flat: so everything is installed for P:P:Moose? |
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azawawi |
run4flat: or still running |
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run4flat |
azawawi, yes |
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run4flat |
also, which OS would you like Wx::Scintilla data/info? |
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azawawi |
Enable the Moose plugin via the {Tools | Plugin manager} |
| 15:23 |
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azawawi |
run4flat: MacOSXYZ :) |
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run4flat |
ah, ok |
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* run4flat |
pulls out laptop and plugs in |
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azawawi |
run4flat: this version first... |
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azawawi |
run4flat: http://cpan.metacpan.org/autho[…]tilla-0.36.tar.gz |
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azawawi |
run4flat: which is the stable |
| 15:24 |
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azawawi |
run4flat: and then this one http://cpan.metacpan.org/autho[…]la-0.37_05.tar.gz |
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azawawi |
run4flat: which is the experimental soon to be stable (Scintilla 3.0.4) |
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run4flat |
ok, got it |
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run4flat |
it'll take a few moments, though, because I need to update Padre and Moose on my Mac machine first |
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azawawi |
run4flat: take your time |
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azawawi |
run4flat: i have like 30 mins |
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run4flat |
ok |
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run4flat |
oh, crap |
| 15:27 |
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run4flat |
I forgot about the Apple/Padre issues |
| 15:28 |
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run4flat |
I recall reading that there's something tricky about the Mac wxWidgets bindings for 64 bit systems |
| 15:28 |
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run4flat |
is this correct? |
| 15:29 |
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azawawi |
CitrusPerl to the rescue? |
| 15:29 |
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azawawi |
http://www.citrusperl.com/ |
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* run4flat |
has never heard of CitrusPerl |
| 15:29 |
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azawawi |
it is from one of the maintainers of wxPerl... |
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azawawi |
Mark Dawson |
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run4flat |
ok |
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azawawi |
sorry |
| 15:30 |
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azawawi |
Mark Dootson :) |
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run4flat |
I see. |
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run4flat |
I'll have to read up on it |
| 15:30 |
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run4flat |
I use perlbrew at the moment |
| 15:30 |
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azawawi |
run4flat: that and you can perlbrew your way |
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run4flat |
and I do a fair amount of computing extensions like PDL and (recently) OpenCL |
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* azawawi |
reads about OpenCL |
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run4flat |
it's like CUDA - high performance computing using your video card |
| 15:31 |
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azawawi |
yup |
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azawawi |
can be run on my gaming nVidia... |
| 15:31 |
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azawawi |
plain-simple |
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run4flat |
exactly |
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azawawi |
one thing i dont understand. Does PDL work with that or not? |
| 15:32 |
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run4flat |
not directly |
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run4flat |
but that's not a surprise as I'm the only PDL dev who knows how to write CUDA/OpenCL |
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run4flat |
things may change, though |
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azawawi |
write C++ right for CUDA/OpenCL? |
| 15:33 |
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run4flat |
C |
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run4flat |
C++ is supported, I think |
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azawawi |
cool |
| 15:34 |
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run4flat |
but I write everything in C |
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* run4flat |
moves this discussion to #pdl |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r18642 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18642 |
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Hyppolit |
[Wx-Scintilla] Updated missing log entry by markd++ in Changes for 0.37_05 |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Wx-Scintilla/ |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r18643 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18643 |
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Hyppolit |
[Wx-Scintilla] Updated README.txt |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Wx-Scintilla/wx-scintilla/src/scintilla/ |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r18644 | bowtie++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18644 |
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Hyppolit |
UpDate Debugger, Tests and Makefile to use Debug::Client 0.18, |
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Hyppolit |
as this is now Perl 5.16.0 ready |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Panel/ trunk/Padre/t/ |
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bowtie |
you will now need to upgrade to Debug::Client 0.18, but Debug2 will now work against bleadperl |
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Hyppolit |
# 1403 : Debugger key bindings (n,s) do not function (closed enhancement) by szabgab [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/[…]et/1403#comment:6 ] |
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bowtie |
azawawi, hi again |
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azawawi |
bowtie: found it :) |
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azawawi |
Moo-oooooo :) |
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Hyppolit |
wiki page http://padre.perlide.org/trac/[…]hyPadreNeedsMoose changed by azawawi |
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azawawi |
hehe... Role::Tiny from Moo works :) |
| 22:51 |
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azawawi |
i can know listen to Padre :) |
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azawawi |
s/know/now |
| 22:52 |
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azawawi |
wooooohooooo |
| 22:52 |
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azawawi |
Mooooooooo :) |
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* azawawi |
slaps his face... |
| 23:06 |
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azawawi |
bowtie: plugin_enable, plugin_disable |
| 23:06 |
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azawawi |
bowtie: editor_enable, editor_disable... lol |
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azawawi |
bowtie: ouch... |
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azawawi |
bowtie: i should learn to read docs more often |
| 23:06 |
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azawawi |
bowtie: there is also editor_changed |
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bowtie |
azawawi, look in P-P-SpellCheck in trunk for example |
| 23:07 |
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azawawi |
does that heal in time? |
| 23:07 |
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azawawi |
for a programmer that is |
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bowtie |
azawawi, are they just in Padre::Plugin or are they documented, if we don't use them, are they complete? |
| 23:08 |
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azawawi |
yup... they work... and documented |
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azawawi |
C<editor_changed> is not though |
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azawawi |
i found out about it while reading Main::setup_editor |
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