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01:34 Hyppolit wiki page http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wiki/PadrePluginYAML changed by bowtie
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07:23 Hyppolit svn: r18714 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18714
07:23 Hyppolit [P-P-YAML] various build fixes
07:23 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-YAML/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-YAML/share/
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07:25 Hyppolit svn: r18715 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18715
07:25 Hyppolit [P-P-YAML] Perl tidy without Makefile.PL. M:I DSL is not tidy friendly
07:25 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-YAML/lib/Padre/Document/YAML/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-YAML/lib/Padre/Plugin/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-YAML/t/
07:28 Hyppolit svn: r18716 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18716
07:28 Hyppolit [P-P-Moose] author and license is already implied in M:I 'all_from' command
07:28 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-Moose/
07:30 Hyppolit svn: r18717 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18717
07:30 Hyppolit [P-P-Snippet] author and license is already implied in M:I 'all_from' command... azawawi--, azawawi--
07:30 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-Snippet/
07:42 Hyppolit svn: r18718 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18718
07:42 Hyppolit [P-P-YAML] Converted from DSL to regular M:I sugar. Test::More same as Padre
07:42 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-YAML/
07:48 Hyppolit svn: r18719 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18719
07:48 Hyppolit [P-P-YAML] Some plumbing... will fix it in upcoming fixes
07:48 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-YAML/lib/Padre/Document/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-YAML/lib/Padre/Plugin/
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07:50 Hyppolit svn: r18720 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18720
07:50 Hyppolit [P-P-YAML] Moves classes around to P:P namespace
07:50 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-YAML/lib/Padre/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-YAML/lib/Padre/Plugin/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-YAML/lib/Padre/Plugin/YAML/
08:22 Hyppolit svn: r18721 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18721
08:22 Hyppolit [P-P-YAML] Syntax check works but does nothing :)
08:22 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-YAML/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-YAML/lib/Padre/Plugin/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-YAML/lib/Padre/Plugin/YAML/
08:42 Hyppolit wiki page http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wiki/PadrePluginYAML changed by azawawi
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09:10 bowtie gm
09:11 bowtie azawawi, you have been busy, snip snip :)
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09:12 kamil hello
09:13 kamil I wanted to ask about downloading a full version of Padre with perl
09:13 El_Che kamil: what OS do you run?
09:13 kamil Linux
09:14 kamil once you had such an option
09:14 El_Che true, for now you are back to cpan + perlbrew if your distribution package is to old :(
09:14 El_Che I am working on an ubuntu ppa, but haven't had much time lately
09:15 Hyppolit svn: r18722 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18722
09:15 Hyppolit [P-P-YAML] Syntax check error messaging now works. Enjoy :)
09:15 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-YAML/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-YAML/lib/Padre/Plugin/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-YAML/lib/Padre/Plugin/YAML/
09:16 kamil I'm working behind a PROXY which doesn't allow me to use CPAN from linux
09:16 kamil my only option is to download a tar.gz and move it to the linux host
09:16 kamil I tried doing it, but the system is missing a huge number of libraries
09:16 El_Che kamil: I have been too long after proxies that I have developed coping issues
09:17 El_Che what kind of proxy?
09:17 El_Che Microsoft ISA?
09:17 El_Che (the others tend to be rather transparent)
09:17 kamil It's at my workplace, I don't know what it's really
09:18 kamil can access internet from the linux :(
09:18 El_Che i have there (I am now), but I always seem to be able to fix it
09:18 El_Che let me hear, does it work from windows?
09:19 kamil yes
09:20 El_Che user/pass protected?
09:21 kamil believe so
09:21 El_Che let's assume it's a classic non-standard windows ISA crap
09:21 El_Che there are 2 possibilities:
09:21 El_Che 1. you have external ssh access to somewhere:
09:21 El_Che => use that a a local proxy
09:21 El_Che 2. You don't: you need a small proxy soft
09:22 El_Che wherein the config it needs the ip of your proxy server (see the windows browser config, your ms windows user en pass)
09:22 Hyppolit svn: r18723 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18723
09:22 Hyppolit [P-P-YAML] Just the actual error message not the full one :)
09:22 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-YAML/lib/Padre/Plugin/YAML/
09:22 El_Che for the first one you need corkscrew to let openssh use the windows proxy
09:23 El_Che for the second one, let me check (I don't use that setup anymore, changed workplaces)
09:25 El_Che I used ntlmaps, but there is one easier
09:26 El_Che cntlm it was
09:26 El_Che C alternative to the python ntlmaps
09:26 El_Che dead easy to configure
09:27 El_Che then you point your apps to your relaying proxy(export http_proxy=http://localhost:<yourporhere>)
09:27 Hyppolit svn: r18724 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18724
09:27 Hyppolit [P-P-YAML] Refactor syntax checking to be simpler
09:27 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-YAML/lib/Padre/Plugin/YAML/
09:28 kamil Thanks, but i won't do that at the workplace computer, don't want to miss with them in that way
09:30 El_Che ok, ,p
09:30 El_Che but the second is not really "breaking out" as the 1st one is
09:30 El_Che the second is making your computer talk with their proxy server
09:30 Hyppolit svn: r18725 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18725
09:30 Hyppolit [P-P-YAML] Updated Changes for 0.02. How about a release, bowtie? :)
09:30 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-YAML/
09:30 El_Che everything still passes through there
09:30 El_Che the second one withtout extra encryption
09:31 El_Che (I prefer the first one becasue it encrypts everything :) )
09:31 kamil I'll try and ask from the IT to install it
09:31 El_Che if the IT staff is somewhat friendly you can pass it through them
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09:31 El_Che have a look at the docs first so you can make your point explained
09:32 El_Che no bypassing, no encryption, just a way to talk windows NTLM
09:32 El_Che you session *is* authenticated
09:32 El_Che with your own user/pass
09:32 Hyppolit svn: r18726 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18726
09:32 Hyppolit [P-P-Snippet] test requires (same as padre)
09:32 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-Snippet/
09:33 El_Che kamil: feel free to msg me if you have questions
09:33 Hyppolit svn: r18727 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18727
09:33 Hyppolit [P-P-Moose] test requires (same as padre)
09:33 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-Moose/
09:36 Hyppolit wiki page http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wiki/PadrePluginYAML changed by azawawi
09:36 Hyppolit wiki page http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wiki/PadrePluginYAML changed by azawawi
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09:43 azawawi bowtie: ping
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09:47 Hyppolit svn: r18728 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18728
09:47 Hyppolit [P-P-YAML] Added t/01-eol.t (author test)
09:47 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-YAML/t/
09:48 Hyppolit svn: r18729 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18729
09:48 Hyppolit [P-P-YAML] Update t/01-compile.t to compile every package in lib/
09:48 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-YAML/t/
09:56 Hyppolit svn: r18730 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18730
09:56 Hyppolit [Wx-Scintilla] Releasing 0.33_06 as stable 0.38
09:56 Hyppolit trunk/Wx-Scintilla/ trunk/Wx-Scintilla/lib/Wx/ trunk/Wx-Scintilla/lib/Wx/Scintilla/
10:06 azawawi cpanm http://cpan.metacpan.org/authors/id/A​/AZ/AZAWAWI/Wx-Scintilla-0.38.tar.gz
10:12 azawawi bowtie: ping
10:13 azawawi Hyppolit: tell bowtie Can we release P:P:YAML 0.02? :)
10:13 Hyppolit azawawi, I'll tell that bowtie when we see each other.
10:13 bowtie azawawi, pong, sorry got distracted
10:15 azawawi bowtie: we need authors and contributors
10:16 azawawi bowtie: original author is alone
10:16 azawawi bowtie: and contributors section
10:16 bowtie azawawi, did you say P-P-YAML now works?
10:17 azawawi yup
10:18 shadowpaste "bowtie" at 217.168.150.38 pasted "test yam file should fail" (7 lines) at http://paste.scsys.co.uk/186298
10:19 bowtie azawawi, try that example, it passes, try in web link from wiki page and it fails
10:23 azawawi bowtie: works here... i'll test it on linux
10:24 bowtie azawawi, I will contributors to podp later :)
10:25 azawawi bowtie: YAML Error: Expected separator '---'    Code: YAML_PARSE_ERR_NO_SEPARATOR    Line: 1    Document: 2  at /home/azawawi/perl5/perlbrew/perls/perl-5​.14.2/lib/site_perl/5.14.2/YAML/Loader.pm line 81 thread 8.
10:25 azawawi bowtie: works :)
10:26 azawawi bowtie: did you svn up and make install ? :)
10:26 bowtie azawawi, no, just svn up, then perl dev -a as usual
10:26 azawawi make sure you dont have modified files or something
10:27 shadowpaste "azawawi" at 217.168.150.38 pasted "Try this please" (14 lines) at http://paste.scsys.co.uk/186299
10:28 bowtie azawawi, why did you remove version from test, from looking at vast amounts for Debug2 I found it makes life easer if you know which version of code you are viewing, when looking at test output
10:28 azawawi bowtie: add it then :)
10:28 bowtie azawawi, restart, working now :)
10:29 azawawi bowtie: basically we need to compile everything (just in case)
10:29 bowtie azawawi, I did, but, the happy snipper went snip snip
10:29 azawawi so now we have YAML syntax checking
10:29 azawawi snippets
10:29 azawawi and moose :)
10:29 * azawawi back to snippets
10:30 azawawi hopefully we can add PDL support at the end of today... :)
10:30 bowtie azawawi, I only install, to check before push to CPAN
10:30 azawawi bowtie: see... plugins faster to release features than padre core...
10:30 azawawi bowtie: wait months to get the feature out
10:31 bowtie azawawi, I know, I also got a message from the butler from you on load to day, as an aside
10:31 bowtie azawawi, I know Debug2 sat on the shelf for 2 months
10:33 bowtie azawawi, thanks for delayed e-mail, if you want to see solution see Debug::Client test code, it was fun, as there is only one obtuse reference
10:35 azawawi bowtie: re YAML, copyright is for zenog original author. We're only maintainers/contributors
10:36 bowtie azawawi, now the new location, of files in P-P-YAML, why, or is this the new standard, also where is 'comment_lines_str' documented, and what other sub could we add?
10:36 bowtie azawawi, do you have CPAN commit bit for this plug-in?
10:38 Hyppolit svn: r18731 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18731
10:38 Hyppolit [P-P-YAML] No need to parse "Document"
10:38 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-YAML/lib/Padre/Plugin/YAML/
10:38 azawawi bowtie: not sure... let me check PAUSE
10:39 azawawi neither of us have it :)
10:39 azawawi bowtie: follow up with zenog?
10:40 bowtie azawawi, you want me to pester zenog for this?
10:41 azawawi bowtie: yup with full vengeance :)
10:42 bowtie azawawi, ok, I have some more to do with POD, first, and to test on another box, before I am ready for CPAN, if that is ok, with you?
10:42 azawawi yup
10:42 azawawi i stopped doing anything on it
10:42 azawawi working on snippets
10:42 azawawi which reminds me
10:42 azawawi snippets scope
10:43 bowtie azawawi, why am I getting loads of Trigger: guff on command line?
10:43 azawawi because i need to figure out something
10:43 azawawi let us discuss it please
10:44 azawawi got time?
10:44 bowtie azawawi, ok, what P-P-name is it coming from?
10:44 azawawi ok
10:44 azawawi snippets are applied to a mimetype
10:44 azawawi correct?
10:45 bowtie yes
10:45 azawawi in TextMate there is something called "Scope selector"
10:45 azawawi and a snippet is attached to a scope selector
10:45 bowtie ok
10:45 azawawi think of it as "mimetype.elements_inside_mimetype"
10:46 azawawi e.g. perl.source.end_section
10:46 azawawi perl.source.pod
10:46 bowtie ie, perl - MooseX
10:46 azawawi true
10:46 azawawi now the current format is too simple to do anything useful
10:47 azawawi i talked to rindolf and he suggested a "test"
10:47 azawawi so in moose.yml, we have $text =~ /use MooseX::Declare;/
10:47 azawawi s/moose/moosex_declare/
10:48 azawawi so we have the following fields. Correct if im wrong
10:48 azawawi id: Moose
10:48 azawawi name: Moose on Perl Snippets
10:49 azawawi test: use MooseX::Declare;
10:49 azawawi or better tests
10:49 azawawi tests:
10:49 azawawi - use MooseX::Declare;
10:50 azawawi i know im bad at examples :)
10:50 azawawi and snippets section
10:51 azawawi bowtie: a lot of stuff... are you following me or eating a sandwich?
10:51 bowtie azawawi, do we have to retest a file, to ascertain what it is, why can't it just be done once
10:52 azawawi bowtie: because snippets is stateless
10:52 azawawi bowtie: works on one document at a time
10:52 bowtie ok
10:52 azawawi bowtie: we can ofcourse optimize it (not a big deal)
10:53 azawawi the question is how rigid is these tests
10:53 azawawi and suppose the user wants to mix & match technologies for some reason in the same script...
10:53 bowtie azawawi, so it's just a dum tool that has to work every thing out for it's self, then offer the correct snippet
10:54 azawawi yup
10:54 azawawi dumb
10:54 bowtie how do you intend to deal with files with multi class inside
10:54 azawawi it is called snippet... hence dumb :)
10:54 azawawi i think the "tests" idea is good and bad at the same time
10:54 bowtie thanks for that, I am sometimes a bit dumb :)
10:55 azawawi not at all, you're cool
10:56 bowtie azawawi, why not make the statement that P-P-Snippets assumes one class or role per file,
10:56 bowtie that way you can use simple tests
10:56 azawawi we can make it do n-tests for the same mimetype
10:57 azawawi perl mimetype is gonna be heavy
10:57 bowtie azawawi, the only issue is with a new file, how do you select Moose or MooseX::Declare
10:57 azawawi mojo, dancer, moose, mouse, moosex_declare, perl,...
10:58 azawawi you know what.. why dont we offer a session memory for the user selection
10:58 bowtie azawawi, you are going to have to provide easy access to plugin_preferences for this
10:58 azawawi sure
10:59 azawawi but easier through a menu
10:59 azawawi switching through active snippet bundles
10:59 azawawi q{active}
11:00 bowtie azawawi, I think the apple dialogue is the way, prefs/ editor etc all in one
11:00 azawawi no ok/cancel ... that is just close
11:00 bowtie using F9 to bring up dialog
11:01 bowtie azawawi, mac use little red cross on menu bar
11:01 bowtie think of unity with disasocated menu at top of screen
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11:06 azawawi http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJB_AThiljs
11:09 * azawawi lunch &
11:12 bowtie azawawi, + n -, are being used to add and delete, enjoy lunch, later
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11:54 submersible_toaster greetings earthlings
11:54 azawawi submersible_toaster: welcome
11:54 submersible_toaster long time - no see
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11:54 azawawi submersible_toaster: welcome star traveller
11:54 azawawi submersible_toaster: or sea :)
11:54 submersible_toaster all of the above
11:54 azawawi submersible_toaster: yeah i couldnt believe me my eyes when i saw who joined in
11:54 submersible_toaster figured I should start lurking here again.
11:54 azawawi submersible_toaster: s/believe me//
11:55 submersible_toaster maybe do some more swarm work
11:55 azawawi cool
11:55 azawawi swarm them
11:55 azawawi so what's new... TextMate-style snippets is here in P:P:Snippet
11:56 azawawi and Moose is here in P:P:Moose
11:56 azawawi YAML background syntax checking in P:P:YAML
11:56 submersible_toaster has anyone been keeping solarized-dark up to date I wonder... I have not done SVN update in MONTHS
12:03 El_Che azawawi: PPsnippets gives a segmentation fault
12:04 El_Che when enabled and I do "open all recent files" I get a padre segmentation error
12:04 El_Che with pp-s disabled It open the files just fine
12:08 azawawi El_Che: trunk or cpan?
12:08 azawawi submersible_toaster: i guess not :)
12:08 azawawi submersible_toaster: but it is good :)
12:10 El_Che trunk
12:11 Hyppolit wiki page http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wiki/Plugins changed by bowtie
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12:12 bowtie back
12:12 bowtie azawawi, no, we can not yet
12:13 azawawi El_Che: i suggest cpan... trunk is experimental atm :)
12:16 El_Che ok
12:19 shadowpaste "bowtie" at 217.168.150.38 pasted "check this out, no error console error" (11 lines) at http://paste.scsys.co.uk/186349
12:20 bowtie azawawi, also if first line is %YAML 1.0 or %YAML 1.1 we fail also
12:20 El_Che azawawi: still there
12:21 azawawi bowtie: test against YAML::Load please :)
12:24 bowtie azawawi, I did test against P-P-YAML
12:32 Hyppolit svn: r18732 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18732
12:32 Hyppolit [P-P-Snippet] Resizable border, add/delete button. Fix version mismatch. Apply the current theme to the snippet editor
12:32 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-Snippet/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-Snippet​/lib/Padre/Plugin/Snippet/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-Snippet/l​ib/Padre/Plugin/Snippet/FBP/
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12:34 Hyppolit svn: r18733 | bowtie++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18733
12:34 Hyppolit tweak to tests
12:34 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-YAML/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-YAML/t/
12:35 bowtie Hyppolit, tell azawawi, not yet, be patient, still need to fix a TAB in a YAML file :)
12:35 Hyppolit svn: r18734 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18734
12:35 Hyppolit [P-P-YAML] Removed "#ABSTRACT: .+". un-dzil :)
12:35 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-YAML/lib/Padre/Plugin/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-YAML/lib/Padre/Plugin/YAML/
12:37 azawawi YAML died...
12:37 azawawi lol
12:37 azawawi Died at C:/Dwimperl/perl/site/lib/YAML/Loader.pm line 674.
12:40 bowtie azawawi, I still have some more POD and test to add before P-P-YAML is ready, plus you need to resuscitate YAML after killing it :)
12:41 azawawi use YAML; # sucks at error messages...
12:41 azawawi use YAML::XS; more meaningful message... :)
12:42 azawawi let me check if it is safe to use it inside our Task api or not...
12:42 bowtie azawawi, ok so we change P-P-YAML to use YAML::XS; then
12:43 azawawi "Can't load 'C:/Dwimperl/perl/site/lib/aut​o/YAML/XS/LibYAML/LibYAML.dll' for modu le YAML::XS::LibYAML: load_file:Invalid access to memory location at C:/Dwimperl /perl/lib/XSLoader.pm line 71."
12:43 bowtie azawawi, was YAML::XS part of Dwimperl install?
12:43 azawawi yup
12:44 bowtie azawawi, is this YAML::XS or Padre Task Manager?
12:44 azawawi i think so... let me check
12:45 azawawi i stopped using YAML::XS in snippets for that reason. Let me investigate
12:47 bowtie azawawi, from all the blogs I have read I got the impression that YAML::XS was the best Perl implementation of YAML
12:47 azawawi until you use it in a thread :)
12:48 bowtie azawawi, is that a perl thread or a Padre task thread?
12:48 bowtie are you saying that YAML::XS is not thread safe?
12:49 azawawi no simply put in a perl script under padre ? :)
12:49 bowtie azawawi, a new undocumented Padre feature :)
12:50 azawawi YAML::XS and tasks do not mix well...
12:51 azawawi just put in file, and invalid task class...
12:52 azawawi and YAML::Syck sucks at error messages :)
12:52 azawawi syntax error at line #...
12:53 azawawi nothing else
12:53 bowtie azawawi, I thought YAML::Syck just sucks. :)
12:54 * azawawi goes back to YAML::Old
12:54 azawawi fails to install lol
12:54 bowtie azawawi, I thought that was the default for YAML?
12:55 azawawi so you see
12:55 azawawi all of them suck :)
12:55 azawawi in real world applications
12:56 bowtie so Perl is not alone in not having a YAML validator, see blog1/2
12:57 bowtie azawawi, so we can find an error but not tell user what it is lol
12:58 azawawi https://metacpan.org/source/IN​GY/YAML-LibYAML-0.38/t/error.t
12:59 bowtie going to read
13:01 azawawi http://www.cpantesters.org/cpan/report​/a054b012-578c-11e0-b496-0a11584a6581   # YAML::Old failure... 12 months bug
13:02 azawawi ...If you want robust and fast YAML processing using the normal Dump/Load API, please consider switching to YAML::XS. It is by far the best Perl module for YAML at this time. It requires that you have a C compiler, since it is written in C...
13:03 azawawi If you really need to use this version of YAML.pm it will always be available as YAML::Old...
13:04 bowtie quite
13:08 azawawi we're doing something nasty in Wx or Padre
13:08 azawawi to make YAML::XS croak like this
13:10 azawawi use Padre::Wx  (); use YAM::XS;  # syntax check error in padre
13:10 azawawi use Padre::Wx  (); use YAML::XS;  # syntax check error in padre
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13:12 bowtie azawawi,  dose YAML::XS work on *inux or is it just Win32?
13:17 azawawi i guess win32... didnt test on linux
13:18 azawawi cpanm --notest YAML::Old
13:18 azawawi plain stupid
13:19 azawawi YAML::XS is robust
13:19 azawawi https://rt.cpan.org/Public/Dist​/Display.html?Name=YAML-LibYAML
13:20 azawawi bowtie: the cool thing to do is to provide future YAML engine
13:21 azawawi bowtie: selector
13:21 azawawi bowtie: so we can switch between different implementations
13:22 bowtie azawawi, is this related to the different C compilers used by different bits of Perl?
13:23 bowtie as in http://xlat-perl.blogspot.com/2011/11​/textaspell-on-win32-non-trivial.html
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13:30 Hyppolit svn: r18735 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18735
13:30 Hyppolit [P-P-YAML] Provide sane defaults to prevent uninitialized variable warnings. bowtie++
13:30 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-YAML/lib/Padre/Plugin/YAML/
13:49 bowtie azawawi, better, but still noise on terminal
13:50 bowtie azawawi, am I correct in assuming, P-P-Snippets is now using perl_pod.yml for pod and podp ?
13:51 bowtie if so I will move pod from perl.yml over to new location
13:56 azawawi give me a min, new format coming :)
14:04 Hyppolit svn: r18736 | bowtie++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18736
14:04 Hyppolit remove pod from perl and put in perl_pod with a few tweaks
14:04 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-Snippet/share/snippets/
14:08 Hyppolit svn: r18737 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18737
14:08 Hyppolit [P-P-Snippet] New file format. Not stable yet. Please do not commit anything :)
14:08 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-Snippet/share/snippets/
14:10 bowtie azawawi, I have gone back to P-P-YAML POD and tests, now podp is working again . te he, if only for a short time :)
14:12 azawawi lol yeah
14:41 Hyppolit svn: r18738 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18738
14:41 Hyppolit [P-P-Snippet] New file format error checking and default Perl works
14:41 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-Snippet/lib/Padre/Plugin/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-Snippet/share/snippets/
14:52 Hyppolit svn: r18739 | bowtie++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18739
14:52 Hyppolit more POD and tests
14:52 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-YAML/lib/Padre/Plugin/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-YAML/lib/Padre/Plugin/YAML/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-YAML/t/
14:54 bowtie azawawi, do you want to add to POD for P-P-YAML-Syntax Bugs and Limitations
14:59 azawawi bowtie: yup
14:59 azawawi bowtie: did you contact zenog?
15:03 bowtie azawawi, still working my way through my list :), besides it still throws nosy to terminal
15:03 azawawi bowtie: which one?
15:03 azawawi bowtie: YAML?
15:04 azawawi bowtie: paste it?
15:04 bowtie ok
15:06 bowtie azawawi, sorry, it's me, out of sync, now when it finds a <TAB> it just gives custom error :)
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15:15 azawawi perl dev -a....
15:15 azawawi :)
15:15 azawawi make install :)
15:16 bowtie yuck, only before CPAN lol
15:18 Hyppolit svn: r18740 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18740
15:18 Hyppolit [P-P-Snippet] Snippet bundles are now showing in snippet manager dialog
15:18 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-Snippet/lib/Padre/Plugin/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-Snippet​/lib/Padre/Plugin/Snippet/
15:19 bowtie azawawi, are you going to go al mac on us and have a + n - buttons lol
15:21 bowtie azawawi, reload plugins ->
15:21 bowtie Attempt to free unreferenced scalar: SV 0xfe991f8, Perl interpreter: 0x8d45008 during global destruction.
15:21 bowtie panic: del_backref during global destruction.
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15:24 Hyppolit svn: r18741 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18741
15:24 Hyppolit [P-P-Snippet] Snippet bundles tree expansion
15:24 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-Snippet​/lib/Padre/Plugin/Snippet/
15:24 bowtie azawawi, have you updated CHILDREN ?
15:26 bowtie azawawi, run should be Show not Modal
15:28 azawawi sure once finished... :)
15:29 Hyppolit svn: r18742 | bowtie++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18742
15:29 Hyppolit update CHILDREN
15:29 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-Snippet/lib/Padre/Plugin/
15:30 bowtie azawawi, that's sweet, cool
15:34 Hyppolit svn: r18743 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18743
15:34 Hyppolit [P-P-Snippet] Snippet selection works
15:34 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-Snippet/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-Snippet​/lib/Padre/Plugin/Snippet/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-Snippet/l​ib/Padre/Plugin/Snippet/FBP/
15:34 bowtie checking
15:36 bowtie works, but not in theme colour
15:40 Hyppolit svn: r18744 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18744
15:40 Hyppolit [P-P-Snippet] Fix name
15:40 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-Snippet/share/snippets/
15:45 azawawi bowtie: now once we add/delete, we manipulate config...
15:45 azawawi bowtie: since share/x is a static folder
15:45 azawawi bowtie: s/static/readonly
15:46 azawawi bowtie: load and merge with existing config
15:46 azawawi bowtie: and then we need to "export" to same format
15:47 * azawawi home &
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15:58 Hyppolit wiki page http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wiki/Plugins changed by bowtie
15:59 wolfram When I use the debugger to step into anonymous subs, I get strange 'filenames' opening in Padre or -- in a bigger program -- Padre crashing. Is that known, maybe even already fixed (I'm on 0.94)?
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16:15 bowtie wolfram, do you have some sample code which is predictable, and will show this so I can see error ?
16:19 wolfram Small examples just show that something goes wrong in filename parsing. I can't post the crashing sample. Can I post small samples here. I'll try
16:19 wolfram sub re_hw {  return sub {  say 'hello';  say 'world';  }  };    my $hw = re_hw();    &$hw;
16:19 wolfram Well re-break it and it should work
16:20 bowtie wolfram, please create a ticket and append samples, I will look at later, thanks for feed back
16:21 wolfram Will do that. Thanks.
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16:38 Hyppolit # 1415 :  Debugger stepping into anonymous subs may crash Padre (new defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/1415 ]
17:03 Hyppolit # 1415 :  Debugger stepping into anonymous subs may crash Padre (assigned defect) by bowtie  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1415#comment:1 ]
17:04 bowtie wolfram++
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17:38 Hyppolit # 1415 :  Debugger stepping into anonymous subs may crash Padre (assigned defect) by whumann  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1415#comment:2 ]
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17:49 wolfram I also have issues where Padre does not detect when i switch between files and breakpoints get created at the selected linennumber but in a previously selected file. But I'm not sure why and when it happens, so it's difficult to report.
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17:50 wolfram (this is again using the debugger) Only workaround: 'f filename' -> Raw. Gotta run now. Will check the logs for replies later or tomorrow.
17:51 Hyppolit svn: r18745 | bowtie++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18745
17:51 Hyppolit fix for #1415, bumped to 0.18_01
17:51 Hyppolit trunk/Debug-Client/ trunk/Debug-Client/lib/Debug/
17:59 Hyppolit # 1415 :  Debugger stepping into anonymous subs may crash Padre (assigned defect) by bowtie  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1415#comment:3 ]
18:02 Hyppolit # 1415 :  Debugger stepping into anonymous subs may crash Padre (assigned defect) by bowtie  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1415#comment:4 ]
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19:15 Hyppolit svn: r18746 | bowtie++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18746
19:15 Hyppolit add another interface dependancy
19:15 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-YAML/lib/Padre/Plugin/
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19:43 Hyppolit svn: r18747 | bowtie++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18747
19:43 Hyppolit Change dialogue to non modal and tweak so that plugin can be reloaded
19:43 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-Snippet/lib/Padre/Plugin/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-Snippet​/lib/Padre/Plugin/Snippet/
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