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05:06 Hyppolit svn: r18748 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18748
05:06 Hyppolit [Wx-Scintilla] Removed ticket_1341.patch. Not needed anymore or used
05:06 Hyppolit trunk/Wx-Scintilla/
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05:44 Hyppolit svn: r18749 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18749
05:44 Hyppolit [P-P-Snippet] Filter by mimetype refactored. Switched off stupid document for now. Proper validation for all keys in YAML. Added Params::Util Padre dependency
05:44 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-Snippet/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-Snippet/lib/Padre/Plugin/
05:54 Hyppolit svn: r18750 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18750
05:54 Hyppolit [P-P-Snippet] Make sure we have at least one snippet bundle available to switch on snippet for the current document and snippet editor takes the proper mimetype of the current document
05:54 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-Snippet/lib/Padre/Plugin/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-Snippet​/lib/Padre/Plugin/Snippet/
06:07 Hyppolit svn: r18751 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18751
06:07 Hyppolit [P-P-Snippet] Added hypertext (HTML) snippets and fixed a typo in validation message
06:07 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-Snippet/lib/Padre/Plugin/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-Snippet/share/snippets/
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07:42 El_Che lo
07:42 azawawi El_Che: hey
07:48 azawawi which is the correct assumption?
07:48 azawawi a snippet bundle is related to a mimetype
07:48 azawawi or
07:48 azawawi a snippet is related to a mimetype
07:48 azawawi a snipplet bundle is a group of snippets
07:52 azawawi s/snipplet/snippet/ :)
07:53 El_Che it segfaults here, so haven't been able to play with it
07:54 azawawi perl dev -a
07:54 azawawi or make install ?
07:55 El_Che make install
07:55 El_Che the plugin from svn and cpan
07:55 El_Che running your scintilla
07:55 azawawi env?
07:55 * azawawi turns on his ubuntu 11.10 vm
07:57 azawawi padre 0.95 or padre 0.94?
07:57 azawawi since im using padre 0.94
07:59 El_Che svn padre
08:00 azawawi my guess is the plugin_event patch
08:00 azawawi I develop against padre 0.94 (the current platform)
08:01 El_Che it's the only plugin that has problems
08:01 El_Che Moose and perltidy work fine :)
08:03 azawawi no segfault on win32 perl dev -a
08:03 azawawi just a non-upgraded ORLite segfault at the end...
08:04 azawawi works fine after ORLite 1.96 upgrade
08:04 azawawi for<tab> # works
08:05 El_Che claudio@melbourne:~$ cpanm ORLite
08:05 El_Che ORLite is up to date. (1.96)
08:05 * azawawi tries the same scenario on ubuntu
08:07 azawawi El_Che: aha...
08:07 azawawi El_Che: P:P:Moose version?
08:08 El_Che is there a method in the plugin?
08:08 El_Che claudio@melbourne:~$ perl -MPadre::Plugin::Moose -e 'print $VERSION'
08:08 El_Che ORLite is up to date. (1.96)
08:08 Hyppolit wiki page http://padre.perlide.org/tr​ac/wiki/PadrePluginSnippet changed by azawawi
08:08 azawawi mversion Padre::Plugin::Moose ?
08:09 azawawi cpanm Module::Version :)
08:09 El_Che azawawi++
08:09 El_Che I didn't know about that
08:09 El_Che claudio@melbourne:~$ mversion Padre::Plugin::Moose
08:09 El_Che 0.20
08:09 azawawi learned that trick from szabgab ... he included it in DWIMPerl
08:10 azawawi szabgab++
08:10 azawawi El_Che: which plugins are enabled?
08:10 * szabgab waves back
08:11 azawawi El_Che: cpanm --force Padre::Plugin::Moose # to make sure you have production P:P:Moose :)
08:11 azawawi El_Che: and then make install P:P:Snippet
08:11 El_Che from svn or cpan?
08:12 azawawi P:P:Snippet is in svn
08:12 azawawi P:P:Moose get it from cpan
08:12 azawawi (force)
08:15 Hyppolit wiki page http://padre.perlide.org/tr​ac/wiki/PadrePluginSnippet changed by azawawi
08:15 Hyppolit wiki page http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/wiki/PadrePluginMoose changed by azawawi
08:15 Hyppolit wiki page http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/wiki/PadrePluginMoose changed by azawawi
08:17 Hyppolit wiki page http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/wiki/PadrePluginMoose changed by azawawi
08:18 El_Che azawawi: it works
08:18 El_Che so what do I test?
08:18 El_Che read the wiki
08:18 El_Che ?
08:19 azawawi nah... F9 :)
08:19 azawawi basically only the Perl snippets are enabled at the moment
08:20 El_Che ok
08:20 El_Che give met a tab axample
08:20 El_Che give met a tab example
08:22 azawawi for<tab>
08:22 azawawi https://metacpan.org/source/AZAWAWI/Padre-P​lugin-Snippet-0.01/share/snippets/perl.yml
08:22 azawawi # ignore the first two keys
08:23 azawawi ifee<tab>
08:23 azawawi eval<tab>
08:23 azawawi new<tab> :)
08:24 El_Che omg
08:24 El_Che I love you :)
08:24 El_Che impressive
08:24 El_Che we need to think about cornercases
08:24 El_Che when people want a tab and not the snippet
08:25 El_Che does it make sense?
08:25 El_Che would someone add a tab after a keyword?
08:25 El_Che let me try something
08:26 El_Che ok, I got a cornercase
08:26 El_Che my %hash = ( for<tab>
08:27 El_Che if the haskey is a snippet keyword you get the snippet wwhen doing key<tab>=><tab>value
08:27 El_Che maybe the tab activator should be a key combination and not a single key
08:29 azawawi sure
08:30 azawawi we can make it like Text-Mate (an activation shortcut)
08:30 El_Che I like the easiness of how it is now, no activation need
08:30 cosimo szabgab: hi
08:30 El_Che shift + tab?
08:30 El_Che ctrl + shift + tab
08:30 szabgab hi cosimo
08:31 azawawi shift-tab actually traverses back at the moment
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08:33 Hyppolit svn: r18752 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18752
08:33 Hyppolit [P-P-PDL] Preparing for 0.01 release. Trying to get the help index working
08:33 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-PDL/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-PDL/lib/Padre/Plugin/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-PDL/lib/Padre/Plugin/PDL/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-PDL/share/locale/
08:35 El_Che azawawi: indeed
08:35 El_Che just thinking outloud
08:35 El_Che I am trying to go all keyboard nowadays
08:35 El_Che it's a cornercase
08:36 El_Che but people may get annoying when they don't get a DWIM workflo
08:36 El_Che w
08:40 azawawi one of the worst ideas we had...
08:40 azawawi in plugins
08:40 azawawi is padre_interfaces
08:40 azawawi lol
08:40 azawawi :)
08:41 azawawi basically a plugin should define which padre version it is compatible with.. and that's it
08:43 Hyppolit svn: r18753 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18753
08:43 Hyppolit [P-P-PDL] Fix fixes to trying to get the help index going
08:43 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-PDL/lib/Padre/Plugin/PDL/
08:47 Hyppolit # 1415 :  Debugger stepping into anonymous subs may crash Padre (assigned defect) by whumann  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1415#comment:5 ]
09:04 Hyppolit svn: r18754 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18754
09:04 Hyppolit [P-P-PDL] PDL Help is here :) Releasing 0.01
09:04 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-PDL/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-PDL/lib/Padre/Plugin/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-PDL/lib/Padre/Plugin/PDL/
09:04 Hyppolit wiki page http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wiki/PadrePluginPDL changed by azawawi
09:05 Hyppolit svn: r18755 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18755
09:05 Hyppolit [P-P-PDL] Perl tidy
09:05 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-PDL/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-PDL/lib/Padre/Plugin/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-PDL/lib/Padre/Plugin/PDL/
09:08 Hyppolit svn: r18756 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18756
09:08 Hyppolit [P-P-PDL] Updated POD before release 0.01
09:08 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-PDL/lib/Padre/Plugin/
09:11 Hyppolit svn: r18757 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18757
09:11 Hyppolit [P-P-PDL] No need for script.pl
09:11 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-PDL/
09:14 Hyppolit svn: r18758 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18758
09:14 Hyppolit [P-P-PDL] First version was 0.02 lol
09:14 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-PDL/
09:15 azawawi cpanm http://cpan.metacpan.org/authors/id/A/A​Z/AZAWAWI/Padre-Plugin-PDL-0.02.tar.gz
09:17 Hyppolit svn: r18759 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18759
09:17 Hyppolit [P-P-PDL] Added missing README...
09:17 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-PDL/
09:17 Hyppolit # 1415 :  Debugger stepping into anonymous subs may crash Padre (assigned defect) by bowtie  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1415#comment:6 ]
09:26 Hyppolit # 1415 :  Debugger stepping into anonymous subs may crash Padre (assigned defect) by whumann  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1415#comment:7 ]
09:28 Hyppolit # 1415 :  Debugger stepping into anonymous subs may crash Padre (assigned defect) by bowtie  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1415#comment:8 ]
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09:48 Hyppolit svn: r18760 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18760
09:48 Hyppolit [P-P-PDL] Fixed HTML help rendering. POD fixes. Bumped version to 0.03 for release
09:48 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-PDL/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-PDL/lib/Padre/Plugin/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-PDL/lib/Padre/Plugin/PDL/
09:49 Hyppolit wiki page http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wiki/PadrePluginPDL changed by azawawi
09:50 Hyppolit wiki page http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wiki/PadrePluginPDL changed by azawawi
09:56 Hyppolit # 1415 :  Debugger stepping into anonymous subs may crash Padre (assigned defect) by bowtie  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1415#comment:9 ]
10:00 Hyppolit svn: r18761 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18761
10:00 Hyppolit [P-P-PDL] Fix POD typo
10:00 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-PDL/lib/Padre/Plugin/
10:00 szabgab azawawi: what were the two new plugins you wanted to distribute?
10:00 szabgab Moose and ?
10:00 azawawi Padre::Plugin::Moose
10:00 azawawi Padre::Plugin::PDL
10:01 azawawi Padre::Plugin::Snippet
10:01 szabgab snippet
10:01 szabgab yes
10:01 szabgab the PDL need the full PDL stack, right?
10:01 azawawi Padre::Plugin::YAML ... once we get this into CPAN
10:01 azawawi szabgab: yup
10:01 szabgab I am upgradeing DWI Perl right now
10:01 szabgab but PDL would be a bit too big for now
10:01 azawawi sure
10:02 azawawi it is only help provider at the moment
10:02 azawawi nothing major
10:02 azawawi when are you releasing DWIMPerl?
10:04 szabgab I am not sure yet
10:04 szabgab I am just adding some modules
10:04 szabgab but one of them that I was asked to add failed horribly
10:04 szabgab I have to check what to do with that
10:06 szabgab now both ::Moose and ::Snippet are in the repo
10:10 Hyppolit svn: r18762 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18762
10:10 Hyppolit [P-P-Moose] Set the class/role tab after showing the error message q{You can only add X to a class or role}
10:10 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-Moose/lib/Padre/Plugin/Moose/
10:10 azawawi szabgab: since im working on snippet and pdl at the moment
10:11 azawawi szabgab: and ::YAML is still on hold... waiting for zenog to provide us access
10:11 azawawi szabgab: comain
10:11 azawawi szabgab: comaint
10:11 azawawi press F9 after installing snippet from svn :)
10:12 azawawi and watch the fun
10:13 szabgab tell me azawawi , have you been fired from your work?
10:13 Hyppolit wiki page http://padre.perlide.org/tr​ac/wiki/PadrePluginSnippet changed by azawawi
10:13 azawawi http://padre.perlide.org/tr​ac/wiki/PadrePluginSnippet  :)
10:13 azawawi szabgab: nah...
10:14 azawawi szabgab: slow-business
10:14 szabgab ok, just checking :)
10:14 * azawawi throws salt :)
10:14 szabgab you know, we could have a meeting at the dead sea :)
10:15 azawawi not in this weather...
10:15 azawawi btw you know last Friday was such a drag...
10:15 azawawi everyone went for holiday and boom...
10:15 azawawi rain
10:15 azawawi in dead sea area...
10:15 szabgab oh
10:16 szabgab we were in the Safari on Wednesday I think
10:16 szabgab saw some camels and some moose :)
10:16 azawawi i see it everyday... some guy is selling camels
10:17 El_Che hi gabor
10:17 azawawi raising/selling...
10:17 szabgab hi El_Che
10:17 azawawi ever seen a camel race? :)
10:17 azawawi szabgab: that's my problem, when im excited about something
10:18 azawawi szabgab: i devote a lot of time to it :)
10:18 szabgab I rarely see camels here
10:21 azawawi when it is Spring time, a lot shepherds come to my area
10:21 azawawi or used to since it is getting crowded again with building apartments
10:22 * azawawi meeting & yes i do work :)
10:22 szabgab :)
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10:44 bowtie gm
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10:56 bowtie Info: cpanm -v http://cpan.metacpan.org/authors/id/B/B​O/BOWTIE/Padre-Plugin-YAML-0.02.tar.gz
10:56 Hyppolit wiki page http://padre.perlide.org/tr​ac/wiki/PadrePluginSnippet changed by azawawi
10:56 wolfram Re: my question of yesterday(http://irclog.perlgeek.de/​padre/2012-03-12#i_5280713) -- does anybody have a hint for me where the debugger detects changes in the currently displayed file-tab in Padre? Maybe I can hunt this one myself...
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11:18 azawawi me back
11:18 azawawi im back
11:18 azawawi :)
11:19 azawawi oops...
11:19 azawawi bowtie: ping
11:19 bowtie azawawi, hi
11:19 azawawi bowtie: http://cpan.metacpan.org/authors/id/B/B​O/BOWTIE/Padre-Plugin-YAML-0.02.tar.gz fail... :(
11:20 azawawi bowtie: fixing...
11:20 bowtie azawawi, what did i break
11:20 Hyppolit svn: r18763 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18763
11:20 Hyppolit [P-P-YAML] Removed share from no_index to prevent install_share to fail
11:20 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-YAML/
11:21 azawawi Illegal or missing directory install_share param: 'share' at inc/Module/Install/ Msgfmt.pm line 22.
11:21 bowtie azawawi, ok I have a POD twake to do as well
11:21 azawawi yup
11:21 azawawi share directory missing... verified the fix
11:22 azawawi since it is empty
11:23 Hyppolit svn: r18764 | bowtie++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18764
11:23 Hyppolit Pod tweak
11:23 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-YAML/lib/Padre/Plugin/
11:24 bowtie azawawi, as we are not using share, are you going to remove it?
11:24 Hyppolit svn: r18765 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18765
11:24 Hyppolit [P-P-YAML] Add missing translation
11:24 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-YAML/share/locale/
11:25 bowtie azawawi, ok i will bump version number
11:26 Hyppolit svn: r18766 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18766
11:26 Hyppolit [P-P-YAML] Revert q{Removed share from no_index to prevent install_share to fail}. azawawi--. azawawi-- . share directory was empty
11:26 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-YAML/
11:26 azawawi bowtie: wait... one more fix... :)
11:27 Hyppolit svn: r18767 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18767
11:27 Hyppolit [P-P-YAML] all t/ should be lowercase.
11:27 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-YAML/t/
11:28 Hyppolit svn: r18768 | bowtie++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18768
11:28 Hyppolit bumped version and changes
11:28 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-YAML/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-YAML/lib/Padre/Plugin/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-YAML/lib/Padre/Plugin/YAML/
11:29 bowtie azawawi, what else?
11:31 azawawi we should be ok now
11:31 bowtie azawawi, thanks for that, I must have jumped the gun :)
11:36 bowtie azawawi, shell I try again, then?
11:37 azawawi go for it :)
11:37 azawawi we'll bump new plugins to use 5.14 :)
11:37 azawawi hehe
11:37 azawawi evil
11:38 azawawi later we should start using xt/ for author tests
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11:43 bowtie cpanm -v http://cpan.metacpan.org/authors/id/B/B​O/BOWTIE/Padre-Plugin-YAML-0.03.tar.gz
11:44 bowtie azawawi, I am thinking  that POD section DEPENDENCIES is redundant if we link to metacpan,
11:45 bowtie azawawi, do you want to add the xt's you consider pertinent
11:46 bowtie azawawi, or should we just use the Padre set
11:46 azawawi that's not useful documentation
11:46 azawawi the useful documentation is about the functionality
11:47 bowtie azawawi, ok will remove DEPENDENCIES from P-P-YAML POD and pod snippets then, if thats ok with you?
11:47 azawawi yup
11:47 azawawi ok
11:49 azawawi bowtie++
11:51 Hyppolit svn: r18769 | bowtie++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18769
11:51 Hyppolit remove DEPENDENCIES POD update changes
11:51 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-YAML/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-YAML/lib/Padre/Plugin/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-YAML/lib/Padre/Plugin/YAML/
11:52 azawawi bowtie: less POD :)
11:52 azawawi bowtie: trim it down a bit
11:52 azawawi bowtie: it is all boilerplate, please link to L<Padre::Plugin::YAML>
11:53 azawawi bowtie: =SEE ALSO section
11:53 azawawi bowtie: that's it
11:54 bowtie azawawi, we still need if possible to get 100% coverage from cover -test against POD, especially if we are promoting POD in snippets
11:56 azawawi later
11:56 azawawi focus on functionality :)
11:57 azawawi i thought about Snippet Manager and + and -
11:57 azawawi i'll add a pre-defined catagory which is called "User-defined"
11:58 azawawi user can add/delete from that category
11:58 Hyppolit svn: r18770 | bowtie++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18770
11:58 Hyppolit remove DEPENDENCIES from podp
11:58 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-Snippet/share/snippets/
11:58 azawawi s/can/will be able/
12:01 bowtie azawawi, remember when you do basic access you apply groups or stuff rather than individual items, we should look at this with P-P-Snippets, as most of Moose is replicated in Mouse for instance
12:02 bowtie ie Mouse is Moose with these expectations class and role creation
12:03 bowtie there for Mouse should just overload these two
12:04 bowtie azawawi, what do you think of that, against snippets?
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12:14 azawawi override you mean?
12:15 bowtie azawawi, O yes, just another silly mistake, sorry
12:15 bowtie azawawi, so what do you think of the observation?
12:17 azawawi true
12:17 azawawi less code is better
12:17 azawawi :)
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12:43 azawawi https://metacpan.org/release/Kephra
12:43 azawawi zenog: hi :)
12:51 Hyppolit svn: r18771 | bowtie++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18771
12:51 Hyppolit bumped to 0.18_02
12:51 Hyppolit trunk/Debug-Client/lib/Debug/
12:52 zenog hi azawawi
12:54 Hyppolit # 1415 :  Debugger stepping into anonymous subs may crash Padre (assigned defect) by bowtie  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1415#comment:10 ]
12:58 azawawi Wx::Scintilla is now also used by Kephra officially :)
12:59 bowtie azawawi, from little acorns, Oak trees grow :)
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13:01 azawawi yup
13:02 El_Che azawawi++
13:03 El_Che that's being a good neighbour
13:12 azawawi El_Che: thanks
13:15 bowtie azawawi, is the "User-defined" section a way of getting around, resetting to defaults if a F's up, could you not just consider making so of the snippets just ro
13:23 azawawi so you cant remove the default but you can add to the category, right?
13:23 bowtie azawawi, yes
13:24 bowtie or you could do it Mac style, where you get challenged, ie have to unlock first :)
13:48 Hyppolit # 1416 :  Debug::Client::set_breakpoint ignores some errors (new defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/1416 ]
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13:51 bowtie wolfram, ping
14:11 wolfram pong (for about 20 min. :-))
14:14 bowtie wolfram, hi
14:14 Hyppolit # 1416 :  Debug::Client::set_breakpoint ignores some errors (new defect) by bowtie  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1416#comment:1 ]
14:15 bowtie have you tried latest 0.18_02 re #1415
14:15 Hyppolit # 1415 :  Debugger stepping into anonymous subs may crash Padre (assigned defect) by bowtie  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1415#comment:10 ]
14:15 bowtie wolfram,  have you tried latest 0.18_02 re #1415
14:15 Hyppolit # 1415 :  Debugger stepping into anonymous subs may crash Padre (assigned defect) by bowtie  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1415#comment:10 ]
14:19 wolfram Will try  0.18_02  later today. Not sure about your questions re #1416. Project is hand-created, somthing with 'use lib' and '$FindBin::RealBin'
14:19 Hyppolit # 1416 :  Debug::Client::set_breakpoint ignores some errors (new defect) by bowtie  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1416#comment:1 ]
14:20 wolfram The main problem seems to me Debug::client.pm:510 'my $b = $self->_get;' where $b is not checked for errors
14:23 wolfram bowtie, how do I get the "3, tree info" that you ask for?
14:23 bowtie wolfram, I need more so that I can replicate your issue here, and see what happens , as you can only bp a file in Padre
14:24 bowtie wolfram, util called tree, you may have to have a crawl around for your os on the web
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14:25 bowtie wolfram, are you using absolute file names, no aliases or sym links
14:28 wolfram bowtie, yes "$FindBin::RealBin/lib" gives me absolute paths (Ithink so at least). Maybe I set up a mini project (with no company stuff :-)) that I can zip and attach...
14:28 wolfram I'm gone now. Back later today...
14:29 bowtie wolfram, that would be cool
14:37 Hyppolit svn: r18772 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18772
14:37 Hyppolit [P-P-PDL] Fix a 5.14-ism :)
14:37 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-PDL/lib/Padre/Plugin/PDL/
14:38 azawawi re r18772
14:38 Hyppolit Changeset #18772 http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18772
14:39 azawawi how can one protect oneself from 5.14-isms? :)
14:40 daxim first you code 5.14 checks into Perl::MinimumVersion…
14:40 bowtie lol so it happened you to :)
14:41 bowtie azawawi, and I thought it was only me who made this mistake :)
14:42 Hyppolit svn: r18773 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18773
14:42 Hyppolit [P-P-PDL] Bumped version to 0.04. Updated changes.
14:42 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-PDL/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-PDL/lib/Padre/Plugin/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-PDL/lib/Padre/Plugin/PDL/
14:49 azawawi daxim: any example?
14:49 run4flat azawawi, help!
14:57 daxim see the module code, it's reasonanly easy to extend
15:10 bowtie azawawi, I have been thinking about your previous comment, about plugin_interfaces, that it should be some thing along the lines of plugin_built_against then just check for will this version of Padre support this plugin,
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15:29 azawawi daxim: im looking at https://metacpan.org/source/ADAMK/Perl-Mini​mumVersion-1.28/lib/Perl/MinimumVersion.pm and dont see a thing about 5.14-isms
15:31 bowtie azawawi, is the 5.10 and 5.12 complete?
15:31 azawawi seems so but btw i see a lot of bugs pending
15:34 azawawi bowtie: perlver [your-file-to-test]
15:38 Hyppolit svn: r18774 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18774
15:38 Hyppolit [P-P-PDL] One less need to use Capture::Tiny to capture PDL help index
15:38 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-PDL/lib/Padre/Plugin/PDL/
15:39 bowtie azawawi, but this Module is very close to becoming extent as it dose not support 5.14 and the impending 5.16
15:41 azawawi yup
15:42 azawawi unless we maintain it :)
15:42 * azawawi home &
15:42 bowtie azawawi, I am starting to think you are in need of your wife giving you another DIY project ?
15:53 Hyppolit # 1416 :  Debug::Client::set_breakpoint ignores some errors (new defect) by bowtie  new attachment [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1416#comment:1 ]
15:58 Hyppolit # 1416 :  Debug::Client::set_breakpoint ignores some errors (new defect) by whumann  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1416#comment:2 ]
16:28 szabgab http://szabgab.com/dwimper​l-for-linux-server-v2.html
16:29 Hyppolit # 1416 :  Debug::Client::set_breakpoint ignores some errors (new defect) by bowtie  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1416#comment:3 ]
16:39 Hyppolit # 1415 :  Debugger stepping into anonymous subs may crash Padre (assigned defect) by whumann  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1415#comment:11 ]
16:47 Hyppolit # 1415 :  Debugger stepping into anonymous subs may crash Padre (assigned defect) by bowtie  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1415#comment:12 ]
16:48 bowtie Hyppolit, tell wolfram, thanks for those two tickets, got any more for me :)
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18:06 Hyppolit # 1416 :  Debug::Client::set_breakpoint ignores some errors (new defect) by bowtie  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1416#comment:4 ]
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18:34 Hyppolit # 1416 :  Debug::Client::set_breakpoint ignores some errors (new defect) by whumann  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1416#comment:5 ]
18:39 Hyppolit # 1416 :  Debug::Client::set_breakpoint ignores some errors (new defect) by bowtie  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1416#comment:6 ]
18:42 bowtie Hyppolit, tell wolfram, we are getting closer
18:58 Hyppolit # 1416 :  Debug::Client::set_breakpoint ignores some errors (assigned defect) by bowtie  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1416#comment:7 ]
19:00 Hyppolit # 1416 :  Debug::Client::set_breakpoint ignores some errors (assigned defect) by bowtie  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1416#comment:8 ]
19:22 Hyppolit # 1416 :  Debug::Client::set_breakpoint ignores some errors (assigned defect) by whumann  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1416#comment:9 ]
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19:26 wolfram bowtie, thanks for working on those tickets. Highly appreciated!
19:29 bowtie wolfram, not all of the code has bean rewritten, some is inherited from previous incarnation, debug2 has only been available since 0.94, there are a lot of patches in 0.95, and more still as they are found :)
19:30 bowtie wolfram, it you want to have some fun, you can run it against bleadperl 5.15.8 :)
19:36 wolfram Loads of fun there, I'm sure. But I need to justify the job-time i spend for this kind of feedback already. I find it highly justified -- I profit so much from the work of others and should return a little bit.
19:39 bowtie wolfram, the most important thing is to create a ticket, and provide code and info so that some one else, who is not in your time zone can replicate your issue :)
19:46 wolfram bowtie, yes I know. But e.g. for the last ticket it took me a long time to identify the conditions for the error clear enough to create a good ticket (see the subs-call trace at the beginning).
19:47 Hyppolit # 1416 :  Debug::Client::set_breakpoint ignores some errors (assigned defect) by bowtie  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1416#comment:10 ]
19:49 bowtie wolfram, I know, I have spent most of this afternoon tracking this back, what appears to be a Dubug2 issue, is caused by a short-name
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19:56 wolfram_ strange disconnects on mibbit...
19:58 wolfram_ bowtie, what I miss is expandable trees for compex variables like in epic, if you know that. I have a draft module in perl Tk doing something similar.
20:00 wolfram_ bowtie, there's a screenshot at http://home.arcor.de/wolfra​m.humann/Data-Dumper-Tk.png. I want to CPAN it but can't find time for tests and docs.
20:02 wolfram_ bowtie, should anybody want to translate that to Wx, I would be happy to provide my code.
20:04 bowtie wolfram, are you aware you can now click on a variable and see value in debug output, if you then click on little square in top right of debug output panel it will enlarge it
20:07 bowtie wolfram_, your tree is interesting, I debilitatly opted for the dump, as the continual clicking to expand frustrated me, i just want to scan info
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20:08 wolfram_ bowtie, click on a varable where??? In the editor (then i don't know) or in the Debugger panel with 'Show Local Variables'?
20:08 bowtie wolfram_, but the ability to walk the tree in as an alternative tab to ctrlist interests me
20:11 bowtie wolfram_, run debugger, use that test code in #1415, bp say @fonts; then click on @fonts in variable view
20:11 Hyppolit # 1415 :  Debugger stepping into anonymous subs may crash Padre (assigned defect) by bowtie  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1415#comment:12 ]
20:12 wolfram_ bowtie, and I don't see no little square not
20:14 bowtie wolfram_, Padre -> View -> unlock user interface
20:16 wolfram_ bowtie, ah, now I see that square :-)
20:16 bowtie it's a toggle
20:17 wolfram_ yes
20:18 Hyppolit wiki page http://padre.perlide.org/trac​/wiki/Features/Perl5Debugger changed by bowtie
20:18 bowtie wolfram_, try it with a larger data set
20:18 wolfram_ But I often have datastructures with 1000s of entries and I could not imagine how to browse these without an expandable tree
20:19 bowtie wolfram_, that's why I think an alternative tab giving a tree view sounds good
20:22 bowtie wolfram_, similar to epic, but I am worried about is there enough screen realeste
20:24 bowtie wolfram_, as for the short file name, I will need to talk to the core dev's for how they wish me to proceed
20:30 wolfram_ bowtie, tried with *really* large dataset -- I think now I know why Padre sometimes hangs at certain breakpoints ;-)
20:32 bowtie wolfram_, cool, we have fixed, one issue, second we know what needs to be done, and just for fun you say there is a third :)
20:34 wolfram_ bowtie, it's not like I'm all against it-just-works
20:36 Hyppolit # 1416 :  Debug::Client::set_breakpoint ignores some errors (assigned defect) by bowtie  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1416#comment:11 ]
20:37 bowtie wolfram_, it's ok, I just like critiques, the more the better :)
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21:16 Hyppolit # 1417 :  Debugger hangs with 'Show Local Variables' and very deep data-structures (new defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/1417 ]
21:16 wolfram_ bowtie, you asked for it -- here you go ;-)
21:19 bowtie wolfram_, thanks, now I have something to do on a rainy day :)
21:19 wolfram_ Took me a bit to figure out how to quickly create arbitrary large datastructures
21:20 bowtie wolfram++
21:20 wolfram_ Will be gone soon and probably not much around for the rest of this week
21:21 bowtie wolfram_, until the next time, thanks
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21:51 wolfram Back for just a second to mention that my tree easily works with depth 8 because it does not dig until you expand a branch. Running for my train now...
23:35 Hyppolit # 1417 :  Debugger hangs with 'Show Local Variables' and very deep data-structures (new defect) by bowtie  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1417#comment:1 ]
23:40 Hyppolit wiki page http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wiki/Plugins changed by bowtie
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