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01:09 Hyppolit svn: r18791 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18791
01:09 Hyppolit Removing some superfluous method from Padre
01:09 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/
01:11 Hyppolit svn: r18792 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18792
01:11 Hyppolit Switched to a more intense use of $Wx::TheApp for speed
01:11 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/
01:12 Hyppolit svn: r18793 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18793
01:12 Hyppolit Reduce state by creating JSON encoder objects on demand
01:12 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/
01:13 Hyppolit svn: r18794 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18794
01:13 Hyppolit Whitespace
01:13 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/
01:16 Hyppolit svn: r18795 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18795
01:16 Hyppolit Comment and pod wrapping
01:16 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/
01:17 Hyppolit svn: r18796 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18796
01:17 Hyppolit save --> write
01:17 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/
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02:09 Hyppolit svn: r18797 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18797
02:09 Hyppolit Starting implementation on a second-generation sync client which runs in the background properly.
02:09 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Task/
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03:20 azawawi Alias: ... we meet again :)
03:20 azawawi oh he's not here but is a committing spree...
03:20 azawawi Alias++
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04:26 Hyppolit svn: r18798 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18798
04:26 Hyppolit Meh
04:26 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/
04:38 Hyppolit svn: r18799 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18799
04:38 Hyppolit [P-P-PDL] Latest code update from run4flat++ PDL-porters list and Perl tidy
04:38 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-PDL/lib/Padre/Plugin/PDL/
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05:11 Hyppolit svn: r18800 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18800
05:11 Hyppolit Adding more method skeletons
05:11 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/
05:16 Hyppolit svn: r18801 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18801
05:16 Hyppolit [P-P-PDL] More efficient PDL::Doc creation and hash retrieval
05:16 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-PDL/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-PDL/lib/Padre/Plugin/PDL/
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05:21 Hyppolit svn: r18802 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18802
05:21 Hyppolit [P-P-PDL] Perl tidy before releasing 0.05 which better context-sensitive PDL documentation and PDL keywords highlighting
05:21 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-PDL/lib/Padre/Plugin/PDL/
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07:54 Hyppolit svn: r18803 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18803
07:54 Hyppolit [P-P-Snippet] Another perl 5.14-ism...
07:54 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-Snippet/lib/Padre/Plugin/
07:56 Hyppolit svn: r18804 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18804
07:56 Hyppolit [P:P:Snippet] A better fix... azawawi--
07:56 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-Snippet/lib/Padre/Plugin/
08:06 Hyppolit svn: r18805 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18805
08:06 Hyppolit [P-P-Snippet] Fix segfault when new files are open. Probably El_Che++ reported it first but I ignored it :)
08:06 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-Snippet/lib/Padre/Plugin/
08:07 Hyppolit svn: r18806 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18806
08:07 Hyppolit [P-P-Snippet] Perl tidy
08:07 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-Snippet/lib/Padre/Plugin/
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08:13 Hyppolit svn: r18807 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18807
08:13 Hyppolit [P-P-Moose] Fix segfault when new files are open. Probably El_Che++ reported it first but I ignored it :) shared code...
08:13 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-Moose/lib/Padre/Plugin/
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08:30 Hyppolit svn: r18808 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18808
08:30 Hyppolit [P-P-Moose] Preparing to release 0.21 with the following changes:
08:30 Hyppolit - Fix segfault when new files are open without any open files (AZAWAWI,
08:30 Hyppolit Reported by El_Che)
08:30 Hyppolit - Updated Padre Italian translation (SBLANDIN)
08:30 Hyppolit - Unload P:P:Moose when the plugin is disabled (BOWTIE)
08:30 Hyppolit - Focus on the class and role tab after showing the error message: You can
08:30 Hyppolit only add X to a class or role (AZAWAWI)
08:30 Hyppolit - Less code in Makefile.PL (AZAWAWI)
08:30 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-Moose/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-Moose/lib/Padre/Plugin/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-Moose/lib/Padre/Plugin/Moose/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-Moose/l​ib/Padre/Plugin/Moose/FBP/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-Moose/li​b/Padre/Plugin/Moose/Role/
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08:58 Hyppolit svn: r18809 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18809
08:58 Hyppolit [P-P-Snippet] Updates messages.pot
08:58 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-Snippet/share/locale/
09:06 Hyppolit svn: r18810 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18810
09:06 Hyppolit [P-P-Snippet] Added Arabic translation
09:06 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-Snippet​/lib/Padre/Plugin/Snippet/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-Snippet/share/locale/
09:07 Hyppolit svn: r18811 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18811
09:07 Hyppolit [P-P-Snippet] Updates messages.pot
09:07 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-Snippet/share/locale/
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09:09 Hyppolit svn: r18812 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18812
09:09 Hyppolit [P-P-Snippet] Updated Arabic translation
09:09 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-Snippet/share/locale/
09:22 Hyppolit svn: r18813 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18813
09:22 Hyppolit [P-P-PDL] Updated Arabic translation
09:22 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-PDL/share/locale/
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09:28 sblandin Hello there...
09:28 sblandin There is something wrong in the wiki page
09:29 sblandin for the status of translations
09:33 sblandin http://perlide.org/translations/
09:34 Hyppolit wiki page http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wiki/PadrePluginPDL changed by azawawi
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09:49 Hyppolit wiki page http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wiki/PadrePluginPDL changed by azawawi
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10:00 Hyppolit svn: r18814 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18814
10:00 Hyppolit [P-P-Snippet] stupid typo. azawawi--
10:00 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-Snippet/lib/Padre/Plugin/
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10:06 azawawi cpanm http://cpan.metacpan.org/authors/id/A/AZ​/AZAWAWI/Padre-Plugin-Moose-0.21.tar.gz
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10:08 bowtie gm
10:08 azawawi gm
10:08 azawawi :)
10:09 azawawi how can we protect ourselves against perl 5.14-isms :)
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10:09 azawawi daxim: ping
10:10 daxim I'm here
10:11 azawawi daxim: regarding perl 5.14-isms...
10:11 bowtie azawawi, food for thought, only ->http://padre.perlide.org/trac/attachment/wiki​/PadrePluginSnippet/mac_look_gnome_shell.png
10:11 azawawi daxim: Perl::MinimumVersion does not support 5.14
10:11 daxim and?
10:11 azawawi daxim: do you know of any other package?
10:12 daxim no
10:12 azawawi daxim: thanks
10:12 azawawi i guess i need to write some PPI... :)
10:12 daxim that's what I've been saying.
10:13 azawawi yeah i know but i was busy yesterday doing the PDL stuff :)
10:13 azawawi s/i/my mind/ :)
10:18 azawawi bowtie: http://search.cpan.org/~jesse/perl-5.1​4.0/pod/perldelta.pod#Array_and_hash_c​ontainer_functions_accept_references
10:21 bowtie azawawi, one of my favourite mistakes I make :)
10:30 Hyppolit wiki page http://padre.perlide.org/tr​ac/wiki/PadrePluginSnippet changed by azawawi
10:40 azawawi bowtie: you need to install latest snippet trunk + Moose to properly fix the segfault that was reported by El_Che
10:41 azawawi bowtie: what are you working on atm? :)
10:42 bowtie azawawi, I am drinking Tea and thinking, at this precise time :)
10:45 azawawi drinking tea and hacking :)
10:48 shadowpaste "azawawi" at 217.168.150.38 pasted "Old/New syntax PPI dumper" (86 lines) at http://paste.scsys.co.uk/187065
10:49 bowtie azawawi, ok P-P pdl/moose/snippets all upto date and 'installed'
10:52 shadowpaste "azawawi" at 217.168.150.38 pasted "Old/New syntax PPI dumper (Cool version)" (47 lines) at http://paste.scsys.co.uk/187066
10:53 bowtie azawawi, ok nopaste is from p5.14 delta, with one duplicated upside down replication and some code
11:09 Hyppolit wiki page http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wiki/Plugins changed by bowtie
11:11 Hyppolit wiki page http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wiki/Plugins changed by bowtie
11:12 bowtie azawawi, we had forgotten to add PDL to plugins page, done :)
11:14 shadowpaste "azawawi" at 217.168.150.38 pasted "PPI dump for 5.14-ism :)" (118 lines) at http://paste.scsys.co.uk/187067
11:14 shadowpaste "azawawi" at 217.168.150.38 pasted "Script for PPI dump for 5.14-ism :)" (67 lines) at http://paste.scsys.co.uk/187068
11:15 bowtie azawawi, don't forget -> http://svn.perlide.org/padre/t​runk/Padre-Plugin-ParserTool/ in trunk,
11:16 azawawi bowtie: i was wondering where did Alias move PPI code :)
11:19 azawawi it provides a two-panel side-by-side comparison... where? :)
11:26 Hyppolit svn: r18815 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18815
11:26 Hyppolit [P-P-ParserTool] Better component names
11:26 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-ParserTool/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-ParserTool​/lib/Padre/Plugin/ParserTool/
11:27 Hyppolit svn: r18816 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18816
11:27 Hyppolit [P-P-ParserTool] Added the standard plugin tests :)
11:27 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-ParserTool/t/
11:30 Hyppolit svn: r18817 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18817
11:30 Hyppolit [P-P-ParserTool] standard svn:ignore and README
11:30 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-ParserTool/
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11:33 Hyppolit svn: r18818 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18818
11:33 Hyppolit [P-P-ParserTool] M:I DSL is bad with perltidy and added share/locale directory
11:33 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-ParserTool/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-ParserTool/share/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-ParserTool/share/locale/
11:35 Hyppolit wiki page http://padre.perlide.org/tra​c/wiki/PadrePluginParserTool changed by azawawi
11:37 Hyppolit wiki page http://padre.perlide.org/tra​c/wiki/PadrePluginParserTool changed by azawawi
11:38 Hyppolit svn: r18819 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18819
11:38 Hyppolit [P-P-ParserTool] Perl tidy
11:38 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-ParserTool/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-ParserTool/lib/Padre/Plugin/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-ParserTool​/lib/Padre/Plugin/ParserTool/
11:39 Hyppolit svn: r18820 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18820
11:39 Hyppolit [P-P-ParserTool] Missing q{WriteAll} in Makefile.PL :) azawawi--,azawawi--,azawawi--
11:39 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-ParserTool/
11:41 Hyppolit svn: r18821 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18821
11:41 Hyppolit [P-P-ParserTool] Changes => UNIX
11:41 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-ParserTool/
11:43 bowtie azawawi, I thought you might find it useful :)
11:43 Hyppolit svn: r18822 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18822
11:43 Hyppolit [P-P-ParserTool] Added missing MANIFEST.SKIP
11:43 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-ParserTool/
11:47 Hyppolit svn: r18823 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18823
11:47 Hyppolit [P-P-ParserTool] Trying to get t/01-eol.t to pass...
11:47 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-ParserTool/
11:47 bowtie I will update wiki table
11:49 Hyppolit wiki page http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wiki/Plugins changed by bowtie
11:49 Hyppolit svn: r18824 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18824
11:49 Hyppolit [P-P-ParserTool] Added missing padre.yml
11:49 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-ParserTool/
11:50 bowtie azawawi, you should not need a  padre.yml if you have a Makefile.PL
11:50 azawawi interesting... why?
11:51 sblandin OK the wiki table looks much better
11:53 bowtie as far as i can ascertain, padre.yml is to make up for missing 'build files' from module-install, to make a Padre session/project happy, as it can be made with touch, this is just a Padre fudge for dealing with unique project formats
11:58 submersible_toaster hi bowtie
11:58 bowtie submersible_toaster, hi :)
11:59 submersible_toaster you had a question ?
12:00 bowtie submersible_toaster, yes, you will like this, not a lot, here goes
12:02 bowtie when I open up a new file. enter copybad and F2 to see help, ie test P-P-PDL i get the following on console
12:02 bowtie Can't stat /usr/src/Padre/Padre-Plugin-OXP/lib: No such file or directory
12:02 bowtie at /home/kevin/perl5/perlbrew/perls/perl-5.14​.2/lib/site_perl/5.14.2/File/Find/Rule.pm line 594.
12:02 submersible_toaster wow
12:02 submersible_toaster dev -a ?
12:03 bowtie submersible_toaster, so as OXP is yours I thought I would ask you first :) te he, also not talked for a while
12:03 submersible_toaster :) - OXP has no code
12:03 bowtie submersible_toaster, yes perl dev -a
12:03 submersible_toaster something running file-find possibly the docbrowser - is presuming there is a lib there
12:03 bowtie submersible_toaster, I no, it has no ref in Plugins DB either
12:04 submersible_toaster i began a plugin... and got sidetracked for  3 months in the project the plugin is _supposed_ to be a helper for
12:04 submersible_toaster does it 'work' if you add a lib to that plugin directory?
12:05 bowtie submersible_toaster, It's from the help system, just thought I would ask before passing to azawawi as an P-P-PDL side affect
12:06 submersible_toaster do plugins paths go into the @INC - ? and something presumes that anything in @INC will have a lib/
12:08 bowtie submersible_toaster++
12:09 bowtie thanks for that, I know that it background noise but I don't like it,
12:09 submersible_toaster np
12:10 bowtie submersible_toaster, the new P-PSpellCheck in trunk uses HunSpell as well as Aspell
12:10 submersible_toaster it's bizarre - but starting that plugin started me on a new oolite plugin (called OXP), which lead to a burst of povray development... and has lead me now to (believe it or not) - prolog
12:11 bowtie submersible_toaster, what's next SmallTalk :)
12:11 submersible_toaster eye halve a spelling cheque on my pea sea
12:12 bowtie submersible_toaster, do you understand this -> http://xlat-perl.blogspot.com/2011/11​/textaspell-on-win32-non-trivial.html
12:14 bowtie submersible_toaster, or is it just MSnot
12:16 submersible_toaster bowtie: barely, and frankly my dear - i don't give a damn
12:16 submersible_toaster :D
12:16 bowtie snap
12:20 Hyppolit wiki page http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wiki/Plugins changed by bowtie
12:23 Hyppolit svn: r18825 | bowtie++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18825
12:23 Hyppolit an unusual tweak
12:23 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-OXP/
12:26 azawawi burst development... that's my name :)
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12:27 azawawi my problem is I can do high burst but somehow i lack the power to sustain it..
12:27 azawawi high burst damage, heh :)
12:28 azawawi that's why i need to stay in the plugin world...
12:29 bowtie azawawi, ok so you have identified 'PPI::Token::Cast ' should be present other wise perl >= 5.14.2
12:29 azawawi it is not that...
12:30 azawawi it is basically PPI::Token::Word, ::Cast and ::Symbol
12:30 azawawi sorry...
12:31 bowtie azawawi, so PPI::Token::Word, should be followed by PPI::Token::Cast then PPI::Token::Symbol
12:31 azawawi Word (unshift, pop, shift, splice, keys, values, each) and Symbol => 5.14
12:32 azawawi submersible_toaster: we're talking about http://paste.scsys.co.uk/187067  (Perl 5.14-isms)
12:33 azawawi submersible_toaster: and hi
12:34 bowtie azawawi, this looks like another P-P (like PDL) where you use perl version in code and display issues in 'Syntax Checker'
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12:36 azawawi bowtie: btw, you need also to prune ::Whitespace
12:36 * azawawi tries to write a test :)
12:38 azawawi submersible_toaster: please take a look at P:P:Snippet... TextMate-style snippets. for<tab>, cl<tab>, cfor<tab>, ife<tab>
12:40 run4flat azawawi, I now have PDL keyword highlighting. :-D
12:40 run4flat that's fantabulous!
12:40 azawawi cool
12:42 Hyppolit svn: r18826 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18826
12:42 Hyppolit [P-P-ParserTool] Updated Arabic translation
12:42 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-ParserTool/share/locale/
12:43 azawawi run4flat: Do you want to be a padre developer?
12:44 azawawi run4flat: we offer free Perl code :)
12:44 run4flat ooooh!
12:44 run4flat not at the moment
12:44 bowtie run4flat, just say YES :)
12:44 run4flat Most of my time is spent working on a Prima-based plotting library
12:45 azawawi then we need a Wx plotting library :)
12:45 run4flat That'll probably keep me busy for the next year or two
12:45 run4flat yep
12:45 run4flat *then* move on to the Wx plotting library
12:45 run4flat work the kinks out with the Prima version
12:45 azawawi any working code?
12:45 run4flat for which?
12:45 run4flat the Prima one?
12:45 azawawi yup
12:45 run4flat see PDL::Graphics::Prima
12:45 run4flat but note that PDL::Drawing::Prima, which is required, has to be installed by hand
12:46 run4flat there's some weird module indexing issue with taht one
12:46 run4flat I haven't figured it out, but I hope that my next version of P::D::Prima will fix it
12:46 run4flat i.e. it just needs to be reset with a new version
12:46 run4flat maybe it's an issue with my Build.PL file, though
12:47 run4flat I've also released App::Prima::REPL
12:47 azawawi always consult META.yml
12:47 azawawi https://metacpan.org/source/DCMERTENS/​PDL-Graphics-Prima-0.04/META.yml#L121
12:48 run4flat that's not the problem
12:48 run4flat the problem is that CPAN doesn't think that it has PDL::Drawing::Prima
12:48 run4flat so if you try to install it with CPAN or cpanm, it doesn't work
12:48 azawawi installed perfectly on my win32 dwimperl btw
12:48 run4flat *but* the module is listed on search.cpan.org
12:48 run4flat really?
12:48 azawawi yup
12:49 run4flat well...
12:49 run4flat run one of the examples, then, like...
12:49 shadowpaste "azawawi" at 217.168.150.38 pasted "cpanm PDL::Graphics::Prima" (16 lines) at http://paste.scsys.co.uk/187082
12:50 * azawawi listens
12:50 run4flat (well that's fantastic! ok, lemme find an example)
12:51 run4flat http://cpansearch.perl.org/src/DCMERTENS/PDL-G​raphics-Prima-0.04/examples/test-error-bars.pl
12:52 run4flat try running that on your system
12:52 run4flat If it pops up a window, then click in the middle and drag
12:52 run4flat use the scroll wheel
12:52 run4flat right-click
12:56 Hyppolit svn: r18827 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18827
12:56 Hyppolit [P-P-ParserTool] Updated Arabic translation and ignore *.mo
12:56 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-ParserTool/share/locale/
12:57 run4flat azawawi, be sure to remove the "use blib" line
12:57 run4flat that's extraneous
12:58 run4flat I've been meaning to remove that but just haven't got around to it
13:01 Hyppolit svn: r18828 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18828
13:01 Hyppolit [P-P-ParserTool] More POD updates and preparing for a 0.01 release. Alias is gonna be mad :)
13:01 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-ParserTool/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-ParserTool/lib/Padre/Plugin/
13:03 azawawi run4flat: it is alive :) cool
13:03 run4flat wonderful!
13:03 run4flat :-D
13:04 Hyppolit svn: r18829 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18829
13:04 Hyppolit [P-P-ParserTool] Add PPI to q{=SEE ALSO} section
13:04 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-ParserTool/lib/Padre/Plugin/
13:06 Hyppolit svn: r18830 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18830
13:06 Hyppolit [P-P-ParserTool] No copy&paste... azawawi--
13:06 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-ParserTool/lib/Padre/Plugin/
13:08 Hyppolit svn: r18831 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18831
13:08 Hyppolit [P-P-ParserTool] Releasing 0.01 to CPAN. Alias++
13:08 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-ParserTool/
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13:09 bowtie azawawi, don't forget to make ADAMK co-maint
13:10 azawawi bowtie: sure
13:15 azawawi cpanm http://cpan.metacpan.org/authors/id/A/AZ/A​ZAWAWI/Padre-Plugin-ParserTool-0.01.tar.gz
13:18 Hyppolit svn: r18832 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18832
13:18 Hyppolit [P-P-ParserTool] Removed padre.yml (bowtie++). POD fixes
13:18 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-ParserTool/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-ParserTool/lib/Padre/Plugin/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-ParserTool/t/
13:18 Hyppolit wiki page http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wiki/Plugins changed by bowtie
13:20 Hyppolit wiki page http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wiki/Plugins changed by bowtie
13:24 azawawi bowtie, adamk added as co-maint
13:24 azawawi to P:P:ParserTool
13:24 bowtie azawawi++
13:24 azawawi q{bowtie, adamk} :)
13:24 bowtie that should softern the pain :)
13:38 bowtie azawawi, do you have a url link for metacpan for P-P-ParserTool
13:43 Hyppolit svn: r18833 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18833
13:43 Hyppolit [P-P-Fix] I am here... nothing fancy :)
13:43 Hyppolit trunk/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-Fix/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-Fix/lib/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-Fix/lib/Padre/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-Fix/lib/Padre/Plugin/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-Fix/lib/Padre/Plugin/Fix/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-Fix/lib/Padre/Plugin/Fix/Role/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-Fix/share/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-Fix/share/locale/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-Fix/t/
13:45 Hyppolit wiki page http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wiki/PadrePluginFix changed by azawawi
13:45 azawawi bowtie: not yet indexed fully by metacpan since it is new
13:45 azawawi bowtie: https://metacpan.org/release/AZAW​AWI/Padre-Plugin-ParserTool-0.01
13:45 sblandin hello again
13:46 azawawi bowtie: it will be https://metacpan.org/relea​se/Padre-Plugin-ParserTool
13:46 sblandin I got a test failure installing Padre on Strawberry Perl Portable 5.14
13:46 sblandin Probably a minor issue
13:47 sblandin t/04_config.t .............. 2/342
13:47 sblandin #   Failed test '->bin_shell defaults ok'
13:47 sblandin #   at t/04_config.t line 44.
13:47 sblandin #          got: 'E:\STRAWB~1.1-3\cmd.exe'
13:47 sblandin #     expected: 'cmd.exe'
13:47 azawawi i remember something like that
13:47 Hyppolit wiki page http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wiki/PadrePluginFix changed by azawawi
13:47 azawawi sblandin: i remember someone posting something about in padre dev
13:47 azawawi sblandin: s/about/about it/
13:48 azawawi sblandin: http://mail.perlide.org/pipermail/p​adre-dev/2011-November/002928.html
13:48 sblandin It happens to me with past version
13:48 azawawi sblandin: from kmx (the guy that brought us strawberry 5.14 :))
13:50 sblandin But the problem was that the test tries to compare a path in short format
13:51 sblandin with one in longo format
13:52 sblandin long format
13:52 bowtie azawawi, but should work also -> https://metacpan.org/module​/Padre::Plugin::ParserTool
13:56 Hyppolit svn: r18834 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18834
13:56 Hyppolit [P-P-Fix] Getting there... More docs... more fixes
13:56 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-Fix/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-Fix/lib/Padre/Plugin/
13:56 azawawi bowtie: yup
13:56 azawawi bowtie: metacpan puts things in recent and then indexes stuff later
13:56 azawawi bowtie: e.g. you cannot find "Padre::Plugin::ParseTool" at the moment in its search index
13:57 azawawi bowtie: they are using ElasticSearch.
13:59 Hyppolit svn: r18835 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18835
13:59 Hyppolit [P-P-Fix] Added Arabic translation
13:59 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-Fix/share/locale/
14:00 Hyppolit svn: r18836 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18836
14:00 Hyppolit [P-P-Fix] More locale directory fixes
14:00 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-Fix/share/locale/
14:07 bowtie azawawi, why are you writing config -> {} in P-P-Fix when by default it is {null}, I am confused
14:08 Hyppolit svn: r18837 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18837
14:08 Hyppolit [P-P-Fix] More fixes... nearly there.
14:08 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-Fix/lib/Padre/Plugin/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-Fix/lib/Padre/Plugin/Fix/
14:08 azawawi not confused... copy&paste :)
14:08 bowtie azawawi, surely you only need to set config if you are using it as a persistent store
14:09 bowtie azawawi, you are using it as a plug-in coyp&paste, cool
14:19 Hyppolit svn: r18838 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18838
14:19 Hyppolit [P-P-Fix] Ctrl-2 is now caught...
14:19 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-Fix/lib/Padre/Plugin/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-Fix/lib/Padre/Plugin/Fix/
14:24 Hyppolit wiki page http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wi​ki/PadrePluginCookbookRecipie05 changed by bowtie
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14:52 Hyppolit svn: r18839 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18839
14:52 Hyppolit [P-P-Fix] Ctrl-2 now prints that it is over a PPI::Token::Quote :)
14:52 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-Fix/lib/Padre/Plugin/Fix/
15:13 bowtie azawawi, ok, but how do we test this?
15:14 Hyppolit svn: r18840 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18840
15:14 Hyppolit [P-P-Fix] Ctrl-2 now prints when it is over a quote, and select it in the editor... Dumb right? Wait until i get the next step going :)
15:14 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-Fix/lib/Padre/Plugin/Fix/
15:17 azawawi bowtie: listen give me a list of valid perl escape sequences... :)
15:18 bowtie azawawi, I can't even see the first one :(
15:19 bowtie http://perldoc.perl.org/perl​reref.html#ESCAPE-SEQUENCES
15:23 Hyppolit svn: r18841 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18841
15:23 Hyppolit [P-P-Fix] Ctrl-2 now asks when you over a double quote that has no escape sequences (\n | \t | \r) at the moment to convert it to single form or not :)
15:23 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-Fix/lib/Padre/Plugin/Fix/
15:24 Hyppolit svn: r18842 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18842
15:24 Hyppolit [P-P-Fix] Simpler confirm message
15:24 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-Fix/lib/Padre/Plugin/Fix/
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15:40 bowtie azawawi, ok, I see it now, I get a popup with padre::xx missing from Makefile
15:44 azawawi bowtie: https://metacpan.org/module/PPI​::Token::Quote::Double#simplify    # I am lucky ... Alias++
15:48 Hyppolit svn: r18843 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18843
15:48 Hyppolit [P-P-Fix] reuse simplify :)
15:48 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-Fix/lib/Padre/Plugin/Fix/
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15:49 bowtie azawawi, are you sure that <Ctrl>+<2> is free
15:52 Hyppolit svn: r18844 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18844
15:52 Hyppolit [P-P-Fix] Simplify works on double quotes as implemented by PPI :)
15:52 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-Fix/lib/Padre/Plugin/Fix/
15:52 bowtie prefs says this belongs to edit.quick fix
15:53 azawawi it is used by quick fix...
15:53 azawawi :)
15:53 azawawi ::Fix is the replacement of QuickFix :)
15:53 azawawi Quickfix is a feature...
15:53 azawawi try it please...
15:53 azawawi my $foo = "foo";
15:53 azawawi and click on "foo"
15:53 bowtie but why do I see a pop-up with inc in makefile
15:53 azawawi and ctrl-2
15:54 bowtie Fix use strict use warnings
15:55 azawawi feature quick fix enabled...
15:55 azawawi disable?
15:55 azawawi i'll take ctrl-4 :)
15:56 azawawi need a free ctrl-something ... :)
15:56 azawawi what about ctrl-~ ?
15:57 bowtie no to ~ as i have to <shift><~>
15:58 azawawi choose one :)
15:58 azawawi ctrl-2 doesnt work?
15:58 azawawi or triggers two things... aha..
15:59 bowtie <Ctrl><F2> also F1 free as well
15:59 azawawi feature_quickfix => false...
15:59 azawawi disable feature_quickfix
15:59 Hyppolit svn: r18845 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18845
15:59 Hyppolit [P-P-Fix] Less code
15:59 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-Fix/lib/Padre/Plugin/Fix/
16:00 bowtie is feature_quickfix inferior to P-P-Fix :)
16:00 azawawi Fix is gonna be simple
16:00 azawawi written by me... :)
16:01 azawawi basically transformations
16:01 azawawi things that you really need to fix
16:01 azawawi annoying things
16:01 azawawi e.g. you use a 5.14-ism... and it alerts you to fix use v5.14 :)
16:02 azawawi in padre core, you need to focus on architecture and keeping things stable
16:02 azawawi it decayed because of that
16:02 azawawi it started in ::Perl6 plugin btw
16:02 bowtie I just got simplify to foo :)
16:02 azawawi how about that?
16:02 azawawi Alias++
16:03 azawawi if only PPI implemented ->simply for others but ofcourse we can implement and contribute back to PPI
16:03 azawawi for others = other quotes
16:03 azawawi only double...
16:03 azawawi qq{....} needs simplify too...
16:03 azawawi and another feature im thinking of...
16:04 azawawi suppose you put '$something' and you need to convert it to "$something"
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16:04 * azawawi gtg
16:05 azawawi happy weekend :)
16:06 bowtie azawawi, ok
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17:37 relwell Hey guys, just downloaded Padre for OS X. Looking good, DMG opened fine
17:37 relwell Running Lion on a 15" MBP
17:38 relwell One thing I'd say is you might want to have more of your views open by default, because I didn't think the app had a lot of features at first, but now I can tell it's got most of what I expect from an IDE
17:38 relwell Thanks!
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17:47 El_Che nice
18:06 Hyppolit svn: r18846 | bowtie++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18846
18:06 Hyppolit ignore leading '' and make Padre::Plugin friendly
18:07 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Document/Perl/QuickFix/
18:21 Hyppolit wiki page http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wi​ki/PadrePluginCookbookRecipie05 changed by bowtie
18:23 Hyppolit wiki page http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wi​ki/PadrePluginCookbookRecipie05 changed by bowtie
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19:32 El_Che szabgab: lo
19:34 El_Che szabgab: although, I understand the DWIM philosophy, I see 2 good arguments for a working cpan[mp] setup (eg if the user had the tools in his path or if he's willing to set it up)
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20:10 bowtie Hyppolit, tell azawawi after playing around with <Ctrl+2> in Padre,
20:10 bowtie it looks at the whole document,
20:10 bowtie where as P-P-Fix has to be told where to look,
20:10 Hyppolit bowtie, I'll tell that azawawi when we see each other.
20:10 bowtie this dose not make any sense to me,
20:10 bowtie as a help utility should catch things that have been overlooked
21:08 szabgab El_Che: yeah, I would be happy if I coul dmake the cpan client work but that might mean I need to bundle my C compiler and all kind of other things
21:09 szabgab just as strawberry Perl does
21:09 szabgab otherwise how can I ensure that I have all the things I need
21:09 szabgab ?
21:09 szabgab eg make ?
21:21 El_Che szabgab: no
21:22 El_Che szabgab: just preconfigure a cpan with the programs in the path
21:22 El_Che even if they are there
21:22 El_Che and add the info in the documentation and release notes
21:22 El_Che "If you want a working cpanm setup, ..."
21:22 szabgab I guess if I assume everything to be the same place as on my system then cpan should work
21:23 El_Che go with the path
21:23 El_Che not with absolute places
21:23 El_Che I was talking about 2 reasons;
21:23 El_Che 1. there is no way you'll package a complete CPAN
21:23 El_Che and there will be always a case someone wanting a weird or niche module
21:24 El_Che I can be dead happy about your distribution, but he/she needs the extra stuff that not a lot of people need
21:24 El_Che 2. some people may want to use DWIM with an internal cpan mirror
21:24 El_Che darkpan or whatever
21:25 El_Che their own not released (yet) code
21:25 El_Che of company wide modules frozen to a version etc
21:26 El_Che cpanm would be the way to go
21:26 El_Che if it finds the compiler and make it will work
21:27 El_Che I think you DWIM has potential
21:45 szabgab El_Che: sorry I was away
21:46 szabgab and now going to sleep after I read that
21:46 szabgab cause I am dead tired
21:46 szabgab night &
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