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IRC log for #padre, 2012-03-21

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00:07 azawawi joined #padre
00:08 azawawi hi
00:08 azawawi Hyppolit: tell bowtie take a look at https://metacpan.org/source/SARTA​K/Any-Moose-0.18/Makefile.PL#L29
00:08 Hyppolit azawawi, I'll tell that bowtie when we see each other.
00:09 azawawi Hyppolit: tell bowtie perl ../tools/update_pot_file --no-version-check to update messages.pot  # in the plugin directory
00:09 Hyppolit azawawi, I'll tell that bowtie when we see each other.
00:10 bowtie azawawi, pong
00:10 azawawi Hyppolit: tell bowtie perl tools\update_pot_file.pl --no-version-check # to be exact :)
00:10 Hyppolit azawawi, I'll tell that bowtie when we see each other.
00:10 bowtie azawawi, ?
00:10 azawawi bowtie: :)
00:10 azawawi bowtie: thought you were offline
00:11 bowtie Hyppolit, tell, azawawi I am here :)
00:11 azawawi insomnia :)
00:11 azawawi 2:11am
00:11 bowtie 0:11
00:11 azawawi and im reading Perl6::Junction and SQLite plugin
00:12 azawawi i just tried a new mojo plugin... delicious as in mojolicious
00:12 azawawi sqlite...something
00:12 bowtie and I thought you were married?
00:12 azawawi insomnia... :)
00:12 bowtie azawawi, I gather you prefer mojo to dancer
00:13 azawawi the whole one bundle thing has its advantages
00:13 azawawi anyways, i think i'll write a sqlite plugin tomorrow :)
00:13 azawawi s/a/an
00:14 azawawi fun to read stuff ... https://metacpan.org/release/Moose-Autobox
00:14 azawawi https://metacpan.org/release/Perl6-Junction
00:14 azawawi I think im gonna move stuff to use Mouse
00:15 azawawi instead of Moose
00:17 azawawi https://metacpan.org/release/KIMOTO/Mo​jolicious-Plugin-SQLiteViewerLite-0.01
00:19 bowtie azawawi, before you start refresh your memory, by looking at the mysql tools
00:21 azawawi i have better...
00:21 Hyppolit wiki page http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/wiki/PadrePluginSQLite changed by azawawi
00:21 azawawi http://www.mysql.com/products/workbench/?p=78
00:21 azawawi mysql tools are deprecated... :)
00:21 azawawi i use mysql everyday (production)
00:22 bowtie azawawi, do you use the tools inc workbench?
00:22 azawawi workbench is everything you need
00:22 azawawi from designing to admin
00:23 azawawi to your everyday query run thing
00:23 azawawi the only caveat is that it needs .dotnot :)
00:23 azawawi so it is heavy on resources
00:23 azawawi and they use python scripting now... so it is heavier :)
00:24 bowtie O, I have used admin and query before
00:24 Hyppolit wiki page http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/wiki/PadrePluginSQLite changed by azawawi
00:25 bowtie azawawi, so you are going to write a SQLite plugin inspired by workbench :)
00:30 azawawi i will try my best... now my eyes are sleepy :)
00:31 * azawawi sleep ....ZZZzzzz & :)
00:39 bowtie night all
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08:10 azawawi hi
08:11 azawawi it seems we need to work on our bugs
08:11 azawawi http://blogs.perl.org/users/jt_smith/2​012/03/fight-night.html#comment-130487
08:11 azawawi sorry...
08:11 azawawi http://blogs.perl.org/users/jt_smit​h/2012/03/fight-night.html#comments
08:11 azawawi "...I use GViM because Padre cannot do a split window..."
08:12 azawawi "...Every 12 months or so I give Padre another chance, but still find it a bit painful/awkward and buggy. Check the bug reports. I can't give you my latest submissions on that because I simply don't care any more...."
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09:24 waxhead hey everyone
09:26 azawawi hey
09:39 waxhead do we want to get a release rolled out any time soon?
09:43 bowtie joined #padre
09:44 bowtie hello world
09:44 El_Che syntax error
09:44 bowtie lol
09:46 azawawi make test # does not pass under RELEASE_TESTING=1
09:46 azawawi where is the core guy? :)
09:47 azawawi im a plugin user
09:49 bowtie im a plugin user two
09:54 azawawi im using padre to develop a script @ work right now...
09:54 azawawi not bad... the speed of development is cool
09:55 azawawi one thing though
09:55 azawawi we're lacking and certainly all others are...
09:55 azawawi is more CPAN help...
09:55 azawawi i want to use Archive::Zip right away while typing...
09:56 azawawi i want to install not-installed Archive::Zip when i use it in padre
09:56 El_Che azawawi: like the netbeans javadoc access?
09:56 azawawi like it a bit
09:57 azawawi im talking about workflow
09:57 El_Che ic
09:57 El_Che I was thinking something different
09:57 azawawi things that distract you from the main task you're doing
09:57 El_Che you are talking about modules
09:57 El_Che and I about docs
09:57 azawawi you want to extract something from a zip file... cookbook-style
09:57 azawawi snippets
09:57 El_Che like when you autocomplete a method you get the doc about method etc
09:58 azawawi not autocomplete
09:58 azawawi at least find solutions easily
09:58 azawawi ::SolutionCenter :)
09:58 azawawi cookbook-style stuff
09:59 azawawi imagine the time wasted to go type 'cpanm Archive::Zip' and before that... know that Archive::Zip is the one you need for unzipping archives
09:59 azawawi so:
09:59 azawawi 1. know which module will do it for you
09:59 azawawi 2. install it if possible
10:00 azawawi 3. provide snippets from synopsis (already there in Padre)
10:00 azawawi 4. less switching between browser and padre to read help
10:00 azawawi i think it is the window switching that is distracting
10:01 * azawawi talks too much ... and shuts up to listen :)
10:01 El_Che no, no, talking is good
10:01 El_Che thinking on how it would work in practice
10:02 azawawi so basically less time outside padre and more time inside padre :)
10:02 azawawi i think this will make people happy
10:02 El_Che I think you are trying to recreate emacs :)
10:03 azawawi bowtie: what's your opinion?
10:03 * azawawi gives the mic to bowtie :)
10:03 bowtie I have the spoon
10:04 bowtie I remember it well in my youth, using the Norton editor, which happens to be split screen,
10:06 bowtie at first it just confuse you, but the ability to refresh your views is grate
10:06 bowtie along with copy and paste
10:07 bowtie in the dark days before the mice arrived
10:07 bowtie we then went on to cui and gui
10:08 bowtie we could solve the issue of a second edit panel, by having a second instance of Padre loaded,
10:09 bowtie but the would require Padre to remember what it looked like last time in was run
10:10 bowtie bowtie, passed the spoon back so others my dine :)
10:17 azawawi to tell you the truth, i never use split screen :)
10:17 azawawi never used it...
10:18 azawawi maybe it is my programming style
10:18 azawawi im a shortcut junkie though :)
10:25 bowtie everybody is that's why we should help, with 'snippets' and 'fix'
10:26 azawawi bowtie: explain your idea please
10:26 * azawawi gives the spoon back
10:28 bowtie all of the current helper bit's in Padre are plug-ins, why
10:28 bowtie perltidy
10:28 bowtie perlcritc
10:28 bowtie p-p-Moose
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10:28 bowtie p-p-Snippets
10:29 bowtie p-p-fix (ok there is a little bit inside, but not much)
10:30 bowtie And then we have the validation
10:30 bowtie http
10:30 bowtie css
10:31 bowtie yaml
10:31 bowtie javascript
10:31 bowtie latex
10:32 bowtie have a look at -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Padre_%28software%29
10:33 bowtie going back to "it seems we need to work on our bugs"
10:34 azawawi so we suck because we didnt our plugin house :) ?
10:35 bowtie I think it's more basic than that, we don't appier to engage with our users,
10:35 daxim I say the same as ron savage, just not as publicly.  you can see whenever I decide to try out padre again, because then I flood the tracker with bugs
10:36 bowtie they find Padre, because they want something better :)
10:37 bowtie daxim, has the spoon
10:38 azawawi daxim: hi
10:39 bowtie we are a bit like gupta and his database :(
10:41 daxim try something new, if you can make the choice, concentrate on bugs and usability instead of features
10:41 daxim http://padre.perlide.org/trac/query  →  OperationalError: database is locked
10:42 bowtie daxim, ok, what are your top 10 tickets?
10:42 azawawi daxim: that why i was talking that day... less core bloat... although im a culprit :)
10:42 bowtie somebody had to ask
10:43 daxim I can't see my tickets, something is broken
10:45 bowtie #886
10:45 Hyppolit # 886 :  Crash on locked database (reopened defect) by Sewi  [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/886#comment:5 ]
10:48 El_Che can I have the spoon?
10:48 waxhead I want to be spooned...
10:48 azawawi Spoon->unlock;
10:48 waxhead not by anyone here though!
10:49 El_Che I think that someone with a lot of vision like Adam or azawawi writes a roadplan and then we concentrate non implementing that and fix bugs
10:49 El_Che less features, but less buggy ones
10:49 El_Che the best notepad ever!
10:49 * El_Che ducks
10:49 El_Che :)
10:49 El_Che bbl, getting kids froms school
10:49 azawawi yeah less is more :)
10:50 azawawi we've tried the core bloat thing and it is firing back at us
10:50 azawawi more bugs
10:50 azawawi El_Che: i have a vision? :)
10:51 azawawi bowtie: re q{ we don't appier to engage with our users}, what do you mean?
10:51 azawawi and we have also the Wx we're relying on
10:51 azawawi it is going too slow
10:51 azawawi way too slow
10:52 azawawi Wx::Scintilla was a temporary workaround that actually worked :)
10:53 azawawi ok one by one
10:53 azawawi we're stuck with Wx for now
10:53 bowtie azawawi, besides our birthday, irc is now approx 30 it used to be 40
10:53 waxhead hmmm.. there are a few open tickets huh...
10:54 waxhead been away for too long...
10:54 azawawi the builtin html window widgets sucks
10:54 azawawi so basic hyperlinks is a no-no
10:54 azawawi and doing X<> perldoc parsing is a no-no
10:54 azawawi so many limitations
10:55 bowtie it should be hundreds of active members, here or some ware else ( face... etc)
10:55 azawawi that's another issue
10:55 azawawi is it svn?
10:56 azawawi or our weird deps?
10:56 azawawi do we need to go web and dump Wx? :)
10:56 azawawi github?
10:57 azawawi szabgab: ping
10:57 azawawi and where is szabgab? :)
10:57 bowtie daxim, just for you -> http://padre.perlide.org/trac/query?status=​accepted&amp;status=assigned&amp;status=new​&amp;status=reopened&amp;reporter=~daxim&am​p;col=id&amp;col=summary&amp;col=status&amp​;col=type&amp;col=priority&amp;col=mileston​e&amp;col=component&amp;order=priority
10:58 bowtie daxim, are all of your tickets relevant, can you check please
11:00 * azawawi takes a look at http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/413
11:02 bowtie we have 587 open tickets, I suggest that we close all over a year old, this would be the commercial approach. gets rid of the clutter
11:07 * azawawi reads http://rudd-o.com/linux-and-free-softwar​e/faq-why-user-levels-are-bad-usability
11:07 azawawi show splash screen option... remove?
11:09 azawawi remove "Enable Perl beginner mode" from preferences?
11:10 azawawi "...Simplify. Dump unnecessary configuration options..."
11:11 azawawi bowtie: please read "Then, what do you propose?" section in http://rudd-o.com/linux-and-free-softwar​e/faq-why-user-levels-are-bad-usability
11:13 bowtie will do, later 30-40 mins
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11:15 Hyppolit wiki page http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wiki/PadreNextGen changed by azawawi
11:19 Hyppolit wiki page http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wiki/PadreNextGen changed by azawawi
11:21 Hyppolit # 788 :  Experimental Stand-alone Padre for Linux archive file name (closed enhancement) by azawawi  [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/788#comment:1 ]
11:26 Hyppolit # 1398 :  UI text overlaps UI element (new defect) by azawawi  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1398#comment:1 ]
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11:55 bowtie back
12:11 azawawi wb
12:12 azawawi task manager status is not actually being shown in padre
12:12 azawawi one of the features that got dropped when Task 3.0 came
12:12 Hyppolit wiki page http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wiki/PadrePluginYAML changed by bowtie
12:14 Hyppolit wiki page http://padre.perlide.org/tra​c/wiki/PadrePluginSpellCheck changed by bowtie
12:15 Hyppolit # 1398 :  UI text overlaps UI element (new defect) by azawawi  new attachment [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1398#comment:1 ]
12:15 Hyppolit # 1398 :  UI text overlaps UI element (new defect) by azawawi  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1398#comment:2 ]
12:17 Hyppolit # 1398 :  UI text overlaps UI element (new defect) by azawawi  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1398#comment:3 ]
12:20 azawawi beginner mode => ::Fix
12:20 azawawi 'else if' is wrong syntax, correct if 'elsif'
12:20 azawawi beginner mode checks are doing regex which are unreliable...
12:28 bowtie azawawi, re 'R/W' what would happen if we did 'R/W  ' back pad with spaces?
12:33 Hyppolit svn: r18885 | bowtie++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18885
12:33 Hyppolit 'R/W' -> 'R/W  '
12:33 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/
12:35 Hyppolit # 1398 :  UI text overlaps UI element (closed defect) by bowtie  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1398#comment:4 ]
12:40 Hyppolit # 745 :  [Perl 5 syntax highlighting] delimiter used in extended regular expressions displays wrong (new defect) by bowtie  [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/745#comment:3 ]
12:43 Hyppolit svn: r18886 | bowtie++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18886
12:43 Hyppolit change from 'R/W' to 'Read Write'
12:43 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/
12:45 * azawawi checks it
12:45 Hyppolit # 1397 :  unable to figure out what the status says (closed defect) by bowtie  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1397#comment:1 ]
12:46 azawawi bowtie: best value on win32 is q{ } x 3
12:47 azawawi bowtie: 3 spaces
12:47 azawawi i suppose we need to suffix it to both values
12:47 bowtie azawawi, I changed it to 'Read Write'
12:48 bowtie in the end
12:48 bowtie status bar dose not like 1-3 charters
12:50 Hyppolit # 789 :  Experimental Stand-alone Padre for Linux wrong perl paths (closed defect) by bowtie  [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/789#comment:1 ]
12:52 azawawi on ubuntu?
12:58 Hyppolit svn: r18887 | bowtie++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18887
12:58 Hyppolit add +1
12:58 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/
12:59 Hyppolit # 1399 :  calculation of position of cursor position in status is wrong (closed defect) by bowtie  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1399#comment:1 ]
13:01 azawawi bowtie: update Changes :)
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13:01 claudioBi hello
13:01 bowtie azawawi, yes Sir
13:01 azawawi bowtie: thx
13:01 El_Che beautiful name, claudio
13:01 El_Che :)
13:01 claudioBi I have a little problem: [first, i'm a new user of Padre and Perl]
13:02 claudioBi thank you, El Che
13:02 El_Che (it's mine as well :) )
13:02 claudioBi I installed Padre and Strawberry P on a win64 machine, and I tried to run a simple script, like the hello world... and the script is not run (nor visualized, nothing happens)
13:03 El_Che claudioBi: I don't have a windows machine in the neighbourhood, but I am sure someone in the channel will
13:04 El_Che as a workaround, have your tried so save the file and run it from a cmd window?
13:04 claudioBi I checked that on tools --> Preferences , on the executing parameters, use an external windows is ticked :-/ so I have no clue
13:04 El_Che perl myscript.pl
13:04 claudioBi no, how can I do it?
13:04 El_Che let's see if perl is in the path
13:05 El_Che in xp is it start - run - type: cmd
13:05 El_Che enter
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13:05 claudioBi yes,
13:05 El_Che probably the same in the more recent windows you have
13:05 claudioBi i'm there
13:05 El_Che ok, now type:
13:05 El_Che perl -v
13:05 El_Che do you get an output?
13:05 claudioBi yes... this is perl...
13:05 claudioBi etc
13:05 El_Che ok, good
13:06 El_Che this means perl can be called from everywhere
13:06 claudioBi cool, step 1 ok :)
13:06 azawawi bowtie: read/write is wrong :)
13:06 El_Che now if you save your script from padre
13:06 claudioBi yes...
13:06 azawawi bowtie: the information is too much...
13:06 El_Che you can run it by typing:
13:06 Hyppolit svn: r18888 | bowtie++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18888
13:06 Hyppolit update Changes
13:06 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/
13:06 El_Che perl thenameofyourscript.pl
13:07 azawawi bowtie: R/W, the user is interested if it is read-only or not...
13:07 El_Che if the header of the script is #!perl and the file has the .pl extension you can simply type:
13:07 azawawi bowtie: that's it
13:07 El_Che scriptname.pl
13:07 claudioBi but I have to be in the proper directory where the file is
13:07 claudioBi right?
13:07 El_Che yes, or provide the full path
13:07 claudioBi give me 1 sec
13:07 El_Che tab auto complete the path
13:08 El_Che you use cd \your\path\somewhere to go to the correct directory
13:08 bowtie azawawi, yes, but continuity means R & R/W or Read Only and Read Write
13:08 claudioBi i'm on the correct
13:08 El_Che (my windows skills are rusty, azawawi help me out :) )
13:08 claudioBi directory whre I saved the file
13:08 El_Che ok
13:08 El_Che good
13:08 bowtie or R/O and R/W
13:08 claudioBi and i type perl namefile.pl but doesn't work
13:08 El_Che now try:
13:09 El_Che can you paste the content of the script to the pastebot?
13:09 El_Che http://scsys.co.uk:8001
13:09 claudioBi open(FILE,"testfie.txt"); while (<FILE>) { if (/^(1 ?)?\(\d{3}\) ?\d{3}-\d{4}$/ ) { print; } }
13:09 claudioBi I also put testfile in the same directory
13:09 claudioBi the txt file
13:10 El_Che ok, just for testing, comment that and make this the content of the script
13:10 El_Che #!perl
13:10 El_Che print "Hello world!\n";
13:10 claudioBi mind, there's an error on the script [testfiLe with the l]
13:10 El_Che (just to get the windows part going
13:10 El_Che )
13:11 El_Che also, always start you script with
13:11 El_Che #!perl
13:11 El_Che use warnings;
13:11 El_Che use strict;
13:11 El_Che that will catch a lot of typos
13:11 claudioBi doesn't work
13:12 El_Che when you do a "dir" in the cmd window
13:12 El_Che do you see the file?
13:12 El_Che brb
13:12 claudioBi yeah, I made a directory in one directory in docs
13:13 claudioBi users\claj\documents\perlprograms\ .... it's in here
13:16 claudioBi while the software is in another location [i hope this is not a problem]
13:20 claudioBi in cmd works
13:20 claudioBi on padre, it doesn't
13:22 claudioBi [brb, 2 minute]
13:23 Hyppolit # 412 :  find/replace dialog should autocomplete (closed enhancement) by bowtie  [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/412#comment:3 ]
13:26 Hyppolit # 1398 :  UI text overlaps UI element (reopened defect) by azawawi  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1398#comment:5 ]
13:27 claudioBi hyppolit, are you talking to me?
13:30 Hyppolit # 745 :  [Perl 5 syntax highlighting] delimiter used in extended regular expressions displays wrong (new defect) by azawawi  [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/745#comment:4 ]
13:32 Hyppolit # 225 :  Padre::Plugin::Vi No Difference Between the Cursors Of Normal Mode and Insert Mode (new defect) by bowtie  [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/225#comment:3 ]
13:32 Hyppolit wiki page http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wiki/PadrePluginFix changed by azawawi
13:33 Hyppolit # 227 :  Padre::Plugin::Vi Not all movements work with "d" (new defect) by bowtie  [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/227#comment:2 ]
13:34 Hyppolit # 297 :  Padre::Plugin::PAR - Not compatible with the Padre::Plugin API. (closed defect) by bowtie  [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/297#comment:2 ]
13:35 Hyppolit # 227 :  Padre::Plugin::Vi Not all movements work with "d" (new defect) by bowtie  [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/227#comment:3 ]
13:36 Hyppolit # 226 :  Padre::Plugin::Vi t/T/f/F don't work (new defect) by bowtie  [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/226#comment:3 ]
13:37 Hyppolit # 1039 :  Padre::Plugin::Vi "Esc" does not switch to command mode when activating vi plugin (Padre restart required) (new defect) by bowtie  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1039#comment:2 ]
13:37 Hyppolit # 1040 :  Padre::Plugin::Vi Crash on activating and de-activating plugin (new defect) by bowtie  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1040#comment:2 ]
13:39 Hyppolit wiki page http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wiki/Plugins changed by bowtie
13:40 Hyppolit wiki page http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wiki/PadrePluginFix changed by azawawi
13:43 Hyppolit wiki page http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wiki/PadrePluginFix changed by azawawi
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13:59 Hyppolit wiki page http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wiki/PadrePluginFix changed by azawawi
14:06 Hyppolit svn: r18889 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18889
14:06 Hyppolit [P-P-Snippet] Added the full-form switch statement (modified from perlsyn)
14:06 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-Snippet/share/snippets/
14:11 Hyppolit svn: r18890 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18890
14:11 Hyppolit [P-P-YAML] Fix dmake test under RELEASE_TESTING=1 (win32)
14:11 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-YAML/t/
14:14 Hyppolit svn: r18891 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18891
14:14 Hyppolit [P-P-Snippet] A better and working switch statement with replacements :)
14:14 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-Snippet/share/snippets/
14:17 azawawi bowtie: ping
14:18 azawawi bowtie: YAML parsing not good under win32... i suggest you restore the old code :)
14:21 bowtie azawawi, so you want the win32 to use old code, and the rest can use the nice YAML::XS ?
14:22 Hyppolit svn: r18892 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18892
14:22 Hyppolit [P-P-YAML] Fix bad Changes
14:22 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-YAML/
14:22 bowtie azawawi, did you test swapping out YAML::Tiny for YAML::XS on win32 in Padre core?
14:23 azawawi nop big change... not required at this time
14:23 azawawi remember. we need stability
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14:25 WandererSeeker Good day. Silly question and I apologize for it. But is there a way in padre to display two open perl programs horizontally as opposed to the tabbed format (to make it easier to copy and paste between them.) I've been using Padre for a few years and finally decided to just ask. Thanks.
14:25 bowtie azawawi, why have you removed svn:eol-style and svn:mime-type
14:27 Hyppolit svn: r18893 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18893
14:27 Hyppolit [P-P-YAML] Updated Arabic translation (Step 1)
14:27 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-YAML/share/locale/
14:28 Hyppolit svn: r18894 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18894
14:28 Hyppolit [P-P-YAML] Bumped version to 0.05 and updated Changes
14:28 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-YAML/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-YAML/lib/Padre/Plugin/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-YAML/lib/Padre/Plugin/YAML/
14:28 azawawi bowtie: because dmake test was failing under RELEASE_TESTING=1
14:28 azawawi bowtie: on win32... basically it is easy
14:28 azawawi bowtie: native => Dos/Windows and it will fail
14:28 azawawi bowtie: bad...
14:29 bowtie azawawi, you are wrong, suggest you look at using a better svn client, as now you have fup the display of files in trac
14:32 bowtie it's the client job
14:32 bowtie see -> http://svnbook.red-bean.co​m/en/1.7/svn-book.html#svn.advanced.props.special.eol-style
14:33 Hyppolit svn: r18895 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18895
14:33 Hyppolit [P-P-YAML] Added Arabic Translation (Step 2)
14:33 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-YAML/share/locale/
14:33 azawawi when it is not doing it :)
14:34 azawawi s/when/well/ :)
14:35 bowtie azawawi, you are now doing the classic MicroSnot approach, I will fit up for everone just so it works for me, this is a ms svn client issue, so fix that
14:35 Hyppolit svn: r18896 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18896
14:35 Hyppolit [P-P-YAML] Same for ::Syntax..
14:35 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-YAML/lib/Padre/Plugin/YAML/
14:37 azawawi bowtie: :)
14:37 bowtie azawawi, you have just Fup another one so i have to view in B%W
14:38 azawawi i guess the problem in eol:'native'
14:38 azawawi im using the standard TortoiseSVN svn client
14:39 bowtie i deliberate wrote a perldoc theme that corresponds to trac perldoc view, so as to be able to view code
14:39 bowtie azawawi, then why change both
14:40 bowtie svn:eol-style = native is the correct type
14:40 azawawi native...
14:40 azawawi This causes the file to contain the EOL markers that are native to the operating system on which Subversion was run. In other words, if a user on a Windows machine checks out a working copy that contains a file with an svn:eol-style property set to native, that file will contain CRLF EOL marker
14:40 azawawi *that file will contain CRLF EOL marker*
14:40 azawawi dmake test # will fail
14:41 bowtie the client should convert to local
14:41 bowtie store as native, which ie what it dose by default
14:41 azawawi my mine point here... is that you need to set it up for each folder...
14:41 azawawi or set recursive
14:41 bowtie azawawi, hold on is this due to Padre svn being 1.42
14:42 bowtie Powered by Subversion version 1.4.6 (r28521).
14:42 Hyppolit Changeset #28521 http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/28521
14:43 shadowpaste "azawawi" at 217.168.150.38 pasted "What about handling this error? :)" (5 lines) at http://paste.scsys.co.uk/188111
14:43 azawawi YAML errors are formatted differently than YAML::XS errors
14:43 azawawi restore the old behavior on win32?
14:44 azawawi i just get now... Unknown YAML error which is incorrect error reporting
14:46 bowtie azawawi, ok I will add previous YAML errors, and level you to put back svn:mime-type
14:46 azawawi svn:mimetype no problem :)
14:47 azawawi svn:native...
14:47 azawawi fair deal :)
14:47 azawawi where is the q{perldoc theme that corresponds to trac perldoc view} ? any links to the code?
14:48 azawawi bowtie: what do you think of http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wiki/PadrePluginFix?
14:48 azawawi bowtie: im updating it as i go :)
14:49 bowtie azawawi, I will take another look after pp-yaml fix :)
14:50 azawawi bowtie: once finished, i'll rip-out beginner checks into Fix
14:50 bowtie azawawi, ok
14:50 azawawi bowtie: and ::QuickFix
14:51 Hyppolit wiki page http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wiki/PadrePluginFix changed by azawawi
14:54 Hyppolit wiki page http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wiki/PadrePluginFix changed by azawawi
14:54 azawawi ever tried wxpar?
15:02 azawawi bowtie: im sorry if i was too eager to fix it :)
15:03 Hyppolit svn: r18897 | bowtie++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18897
15:03 Hyppolit add back in 0.03 error check for YAML and win32
15:03 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-YAML/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-YAML/lib/Padre/Plugin/YAML/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-YAML/t/
15:05 bowtie azawawi, win32 error check back in for you to test, I am off to look at pp-fix now
15:06 Hyppolit svn: r18898 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18898
15:06 Hyppolit [P-P-Snippet] Moved the only Perl 6 snippet into its own category :)
15:06 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-Snippet/share/snippets/
15:07 * azawawi tries it
15:09 Hyppolit svn: r18899 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18899
15:09 Hyppolit [P-P-YAML] Updated Changes
15:09 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-YAML/
15:10 azawawi Perfect...
15:10 azawawi bowtie++
15:10 azawawi very fast also
15:11 bowtie azawawi, you need to see it on ubuntu, you get to see every message when you load against YAML::XS
15:12 azawawi release today?
15:13 bowtie azawawi, what about the incorrect dependency issue on metacpan, which shows YAML::XS this is not right as a win32 user should see YAML
15:13 Hyppolit svn: r18900 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18900
15:13 Hyppolit [P-P-YAML] Updated Changes for 0.05 release. bowtie++ :)
15:13 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-YAML/
15:15 azawawi not a big deal imho
15:16 azawawi but i would explain it in bugs and limitations section? :)
15:17 azawawi e.g. https://metacpan.org/module/Padre
15:17 azawawi does not list Win32::...
15:19 azawawi have you noticed this strange bug in metacpan https://metacpan.org/module/Padre::Plugin::YAML
15:19 azawawi # does not show latest
15:19 azawawi sorry ... cached... :)
15:19 bowtie azawawi, you mean when CPAN view shows previous POD
15:20 azawawi yeah
15:20 azawawi they're not putting cache-control: ...
15:20 azawawi cpanm -v http://cpan.metacpan.org/authors/id/B/B​O/BOWTIE/Padre-Plugin-YAML-0.05.tar.gz  # :)
15:21 bowtie azawawi, I have just got the index ticket from cpan :)
15:21 azawawi im faster
15:22 Hyppolit svn: r18901 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18901
15:22 Hyppolit Update the messages.pot file
15:22 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/share/locale/
15:23 Hyppolit wiki page http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wiki/WhereIsGaborLoL changed by azawawi
15:23 azawawi have you noticed how much szabgab++ has been committing less and less time to Padre?
15:23 azawawi we need him :)
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15:25 azawawi MIA - szabgab
15:25 azawawi MIA - Alias
15:25 azawawi :)
15:25 azawawi bowtie: we will release Padre 0.96 next week. That's my plan
15:26 azawawi bowtie: so let us say Thursday?
15:26 azawawi bowtie: 29th
15:28 bowtie azawawi, I will not be able to see on the 29th, fancy eye test, get dilated pupils for many hours, side affect no focus, it's fun, a bit like being blind drunk, without hangover :)
15:29 bowtie otherwise, wed or fri ok
15:29 azawawi we'll try before...
15:30 azawawi it all depends on the quick fix move
15:30 azawawi and how fast i can rip it out :)
15:30 azawawi and stabilizing snippets
15:30 azawawi we moved quite a bit
15:31 * azawawi home &
15:31 azawawi bowtie++
15:32 azawawi if we can continue this pace
15:32 azawawi we will eventually have a great padre ecosystem
15:32 azawawi s/ecosystem/plugin ecosystem/
15:32 bowtie what is key combo for pp-fix
15:33 azawawi ctrl-2
15:33 bowtie azawawi, thanks
15:33 azawawi bowtie: np... enjoy :)
15:33 bowtie azawawi, night
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16:42 Hyppolit wiki page http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wiki/PadrePluginFix changed by bowtie
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17:27 Hyppolit wiki page http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wiki/PadrePluginYAML changed by bowtie
17:30 Hyppolit svn: r18902 | bowtie++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/18902
17:30 Hyppolit svn:mime-type=text/x-perl   ; tells pygments how to display
17:30 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-YAML/lib/Padre/Plugin/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-YAML/lib/Padre/Plugin/YAML/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-YAML/t/
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17:57 Hyppolit # 828 :  Padre::Plugin editor_disable plugin hook missing? (new defect) by bowtie  [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/828#comment:1 ]
18:11 Hyppolit # 1076 :  Padre::Plugin::Alarm cannot play alarm sound under Ubuntu (closed defect) by bowtie  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1076#comment:5 ]
18:18 Hyppolit wiki page http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wiki/PadrePluginYAML changed by bowtie
18:43 Hyppolit # 31 :  Include a web server to make it easy to develop CGI scripts (closed enhancement) by bowtie  [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/31#comment:2 ]
18:43 Hyppolit # 124 :  drag-and-drop selection (closed enhancement) by bowtie  [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/124#comment:2 ]
18:43 Hyppolit # 150 :  more flexible (project aware?) recent files (closed enhancement) by bowtie  [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/150#comment:1 ]
18:43 Hyppolit # 113 :  Resize the notebook windows (closed enhancement) by bowtie  [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/113#comment:1 ]
18:44 Hyppolit # 169 :  Provide translation of error messages (closed enhancement) by bowtie  [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/169#comment:3 ]
18:44 Hyppolit # 15 :  Plugin idea: timestamp files (closed enhancement) by bowtie  [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/15#comment:1 ]
18:44 Hyppolit # 178 :  Remove trailing (end-of-line) whitespace and trailing empty lines on saving (closed enhancement) by bowtie  [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/178#comment:1 ]
18:44 Hyppolit # 177 :  plugin for html::template (closed enhancement) by bowtie  [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/177#comment:1 ]
18:44 Hyppolit # 80 :  Plugin or core functionality for editing the contents of ZIP files (closed enhancement) by bowtie  [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/80#comment:1 ]
18:45 Hyppolit # 90 :  Just an idea: integrate Dist::Zilla for project management (closed enhancement) by bowtie  [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/90#comment:1 ]
18:48 bowtie just closed open tickets up to 01/01/2009
18:49 bowtie now there 131 open up to 01/01/2010, think I will do them later, unless there are any takers?
18:49 bowtie ie over 2 years old
18:50 bowtie http://padre.perlide.org/trac/query?status=acc​epted&amp;status=assigned&amp;status=new&amp;s​tatus=reopened&amp;changetime=01%2F01%2F01..01​%2F01%2F10&amp;col=id&amp;col=summary&amp;col=​status&amp;col=type&amp;col=priority&amp;col=m​ilestone&amp;col=component&amp;order=priority
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20:04 Hyppolit wiki page http://padre.perlide.org/tra​c/wiki/PadrePluginWxWidgets changed by bowtie
20:06 Hyppolit wiki page http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wiki/PadreSwarm changed by bowtie
20:07 Hyppolit wiki page http://padre.perlide.org/tr​ac/wiki/PadrePluginSnippet changed by bowtie
20:08 Hyppolit wiki page http://padre.perlide.org/tra​c/wiki/PadrePluginParserTool changed by bowtie
20:09 Hyppolit wiki page http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wiki/PadrePluginPDL changed by bowtie
20:10 Hyppolit wiki page http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/wiki/PadrePluginMoose changed by bowtie
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23:33 Tizo Hi, can anyone help me switch the language in my Padre installation to English? Mine is in portuguese which is my native language, but the translation isn't very good
23:33 Tizo I can't find the option to switch languages
23:57 bowtie Tizo, Padre -> View -> Language select from list

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