Camelia, the Perl 6 bug

IRC log for #padre, 2012-08-29

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03:33 Adam Hi
03:33 botbot Welcome Alias
03:34 Alias botbot help
03:34 Alias botbot: hello?
03:35 Alias botbot: status
03:35 Alias I take it that it doesn't talk :)
03:53 Alias hrm, so I assume bowtie won't be around for another 6 hours
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07:40 botbot Welcome Alias
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09:12 bowtie gm
09:12 bowtie Alias, pong
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10:06 bowtie Adam_,  hi
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11:30 bowtie Adam_, are you saying, M::I::DSL dose not like 'post-leading tabs' ?
11:31 bowtie help
11:32 bowtie botbot: tell Alias are you saying, M::I::DSL dose not like 'post-leading tabs' as in r19310
11:32 botbot bowtie, I'll tell that Alias when we see each other.
11:32 botbot Changeset #19310 http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/19310
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14:11 bowtie Nick, hi
14:11 Nick bowtie: hi! pp-Dancer depends on pp-Catalyst. but... https://gist.github.com/3496016
14:13 bowtie Nick, that is not an issue as the PP-Catalyst::Utils is not required for you to just have a Panel with Dancer routes
14:15 Nick bowtie: perl Makefile.PL ... open(lib/Padre/Plugin/Catalyst/Util.pm): No such file or directory at (eval 18) line 3.
14:15 Nick how should I install pp-Dancer then?
14:16 bowtie Nick, have you got latest PP-Dancer from padre trunk (svn)
14:18 Nick yes
14:18 Nick # svn update Updating '.': At revision 19320.
14:18 Nick # pwd /root/padre/Padre-Plugin-Dancer
14:23 bowtie Nick, O, when you run padre from trunk as in 'perl dev' this time do 'perl dev -a' then go to Plugin Manager
15:15 bowtie Nick, see -> http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wiki/Development
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15:43 bowtie Adam__, hi
16:16 botbot Welcome Alias
16:16 botbot Welcome Alias_
16:21 shadowpaste "bowtie" at 217.168.150.38 pasted "our $VERSION = '0.04';" (1 line) at http://paste.scsys.co.uk/206725
16:22 bowtie Alias, hi
16:23 bowtie Alias_, hi, again :)
16:24 Nick bowtie: , I do not want to run Padre from trunk, I want to install and run pp-Dancer to my system and run it with Padre 0.96 from CPAN. Is it possible?
16:26 Nick bowtie: btw, with `perl dev -a` I've got "Error loading pod for class 'Padre::Plugin::Dancer': Can't call method "mimetype" on an undefined value at /root/padre/Padre/lib/Padre/Browser.pm line 300. " in Plug-in Manager
16:26 bowtie Nick, if you want to hack a plugin, it is best done using Padre from trunk, then you are using the same version as padre devs
16:27 Nick bowtie: and it crash when I'm clicking 'enable' on Dancer plugin
16:27 Nick DBI connect('/root/padre/Padre​/.padre/config.db','',...) failed: unable to open database file at (eval 1903) line 22. Perl exited with active threads: 2 running and unjoined 0 finished and unjoined 0 running and detached
16:27 Nick hmm. I'll try to run it as not root
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16:28 bowtie Nick, I hacked pp-dancer so it could be enabled in plugin manager, ie I brought it up to plugin api v2.2 for you
16:29 bowtie yes, there is a ticket about running padre as root :(
16:31 bowtie stkowski, did you notice r19315
16:31 botbot Changeset #19315 http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/19315
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16:32 Nick well, looks ok under usual user
16:33 bowtie Nick, good, you should be able to enable under trunk, pp-dancer, and run about from it's menu
16:33 Nick so the question is - should I build something efter editin pp-Dancer files? Or I need just to restart Padre (run again perl dev -a) ?
16:33 Nick *after
16:33 stkowski track link from botbot is 403 no permission?
16:34 Nick should I cd pp-Dancer && perl Makefile.pl &&make, or cd Padre && make  && make test or something else?
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16:36 bowtie stkowski, http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/19315
16:36 botbot Welcome user_5053
16:37 stkowski Hrmm… let me check something
16:37 user_5053 When I set the theme to any choice with a dark background a large number of my $scalar variables are highlighted white... can't seem to undo this... help?
16:38 stkowski Ah. My work IP is banned from Trac.
16:38 bowtie Nick, you are now in the position to hack pp-dancer, make contact with author and submit patches to make a working pp for all not just youself, and get some help along the way
16:39 bowtie stkowski, I thought we told Gabor this, when you were assisting him configuration
16:40 bowtie user_5053, hi
16:40 user_5053 hi bowtie
16:40 stkowski bowtie: I'll email and sort it out :)
16:40 bowtie user_5053, just change to another theme, and try again
16:41 bowtie stkowski, if you send to padre-dev list I will concur
16:41 Nick bowtie: hmmm. How can I find who is the author of pp-Dancer?
16:41 bowtie user_5053, what version of Padre
16:43 bowtie Nick, look here http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wiki/Plugins or in POD
16:43 user_5053 bowtie, running 0.92 os OS X
16:44 user_5053 any theme selected with dark background highlights *most*, but not all $scalars in white... not a huge deal, just kind of distracting
16:44 bowtie NIck, or check trac commits in browse source
16:46 Nick found in Makefile.PL
16:46 bowtie user_5053, take a look at this, it's a test file for perl code in padre using themes http://padre.perlide.org/trac/browser​/trunk/Padre/eg/theme/style_perl5.pl
16:48 Nick hmm. It looks like the existing functionality of this plugin is totally broken with current version of Padre :(
16:48 Nick bowtie: btw, are there any plans to move to github?
16:49 Nick it's easy to make branch, edit and make pull request with github
16:49 bowtie Nick, look what i found http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14456
16:50 Nick $ cat Makefile.PL  | grep author author 'Aaron Trevena <aaron.trevena@gmail.com>'; author 'Ahmad M. Zawawi <ahmad.zawawi@gmail.com>';
16:52 bowtie Nick, I do not think github is great, consider the case how do you re-sync a fork, yuck
16:57 user_5053 bowtie I'll assume this is an example of how I can manually manipulate certain theme parameters in padre?
16:59 bowtie user_5053, no, it just a sampler, so you can see perl code highlighting
17:01 user_5053 bowtie, sorry, let me clarify better; it's highlighting most (not all) $scalars by surrounding them in white boxes... not just a different font colour
17:03 user_5053 bowtie, I expect code highlighting, but this is more of a "selected text box" kind of thing
17:05 user_5053 bowtie upon deeper examination it looks like any $scalar variables enclosed in double-quotes gets the white-text-box treatment.. must just be a part of the theme
17:06 bowtie user_5053, I take your word for it, please open a ticket up in trac http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wiki
17:06 user_5053 bowtie will do, thanks for your time
17:06 bowtie ok
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17:28 Nick bowtie: I read the source and think I need to make completely different plugin instead of current pp-Dancer. And I have a questions about Padre design. Dancer is DSL. Perl syntax is extended by new keywords (get,post,any,hook, etc.). With current type of document 'perl' it looks impossible to make anything, without changing Padre::Document::Perl.
17:28 Nick bowtie: so I should make new Padre-Document-PerlDancer, right?
18:04 bowtie Nick, I suggest then, that you start by watching Gabors video on MyPlugin ans work your way though, asking Q's on the way, all links in wiki cookbook, which you have :)
18:05 bowtie s/ans/and/
18:05 bowtie Alias_, hi again :)
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18:41 El_Che hi Alias_ , how is the ne job?
18:41 El_Che the
18:42 bowtie El_Che, hi
18:42 El_Che hi bowtie
18:43 bowtie El_Che, pp-nopaste in trunk is ready for testing, if you have a moo :)
18:44 bowtie El_Che, i have tested localy against Padre 0.96 and trunk
18:44 El_Che i am connected through a friendly line with a tablet with a so so OS
18:44 El_Che no computer here
18:45 El_Che got the kids bikes in
18:45 El_Che stead
18:45 El_Che improving :)
18:47 bowtie El_Che, ok
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22:01 shadowpaste "bowtie" at 217.168.150.38 pasted "=head1 NAME Padre::Plugin::Nop" (3 lines) at http://paste.scsys.co.uk/206736
22:02 bowtie It's only a test, above
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22:04 murray I installed padre under OS X 10.8.1 following the MacPorts, then CPAN instructions on the padre site. No errors. But padre isn't on my path. Where should the executable be?
22:06 bowtie murray, hi
22:07 bowtie do you mean -> http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wiki/DownloadMacOSX
22:16 murray Hi, yes, that's the page I mean.
22:18 bowtie murray, if you could created ticket, in trac about this I will notify our Mac bods to take a look
22:20 murray I see a mailing list "Padre-trac". Is that what I want, to join that mailing group? Or is there an on-line site (I hope) for creating tickets?
22:21 bowtie murray, look here -> http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wiki
22:23 murray got it, thanks. Bye.
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22:45 bowtie now there are two :)
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