Camelia, the Perl 6 bug

IRC log for #padre, 2012-08-31

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08:38 bowtie gm
08:49 El_Che morning
08:53 bowtie El_Che, hi, any thoughts on putting this back in padre -> http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wiki/​Features/ProjectSkeletonGeneration
08:53 bowtie or any one else
08:56 El_Che opening
08:56 bowtie what, a can of beans :)
08:56 El_Che I loved that
08:56 El_Che slow connection here
08:57 bowtie I might make that my next hack,
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10:05 azawawi im overpowered!
10:05 azawawi muhaaaaaaa!
10:05 azawawi :)
10:07 bowtie hello, azawawi
10:09 azawawi bowtie: hi
10:09 * azawawi is reading http://codemirror.net/1/story.html
10:10 azawawi http://codemirror.net/mode/perl/index.html  # ace editor alt
10:12 bowtie ok, I have added to my read list :)
10:13 azawawi ...For a lot of things, JavaScript + DOM elements are a surprisingly powerful platform. Simple interactive documents and forms can be written in browsers with very little effort, generally less than with most 'traditional' platforms (Java, Win32, things like WxWidgets).
10:13 azawawi ...
10:14 azawawi im done with my gaming months... :)
10:14 azawawi time to sit down and start coding my ideas
10:15 El_Che hi azawawi
10:15 El_Che welcome to adulthood
10:16 bowtie azawawi, did you see r19315
10:16 botbot Changeset #19315 http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/19315
10:16 * El_Che hides
10:16 azawawi El_Che: hehe
10:16 azawawi El_Che: will come back after i finish my ideas :)
10:17 azawawi bowtie: that's not for OSX as per the ticket you wrote earlier
10:17 azawawi bowtie: GTK
10:17 azawawi El_Che: im always around. Just hiding in the shadows :)
10:20 azawawi El_Che: have u seen Galileo?
10:20 azawawi El_Che: https://metacpan.org/module/Galileo
10:21 El_Che never heard of it
10:21 El_Che good?
10:21 sewi I expected this: http://www.esa.int/esaNA/galileo.html :-)
10:22 El_Che they are both geeky, so it's ok ;)
10:22 bowtie azawawi, ok,
10:23 azawawi sewi: hi sewi.
10:23 azawawi What happened to Sewi? :)
10:24 sewi A computer change :)
10:26 azawawi guys Mojolicious  is really something
10:27 bowtie http://cpan.metacpan.org/authors/id/B/BO​/BOWTIE/Padre-Plugin-Nopaste-0.04.tar.gz
10:27 azawawi release... release...
10:27 El_Che azawawi: last week someone told me exactly the same
10:27 azawawi bowtie: ...
10:27 azawawi bowtie: Found dependencies: Test::Pod::Coverage, Test::Pod, strictures, App::Nopaste, Moo
10:28 azawawi bowtie: isnt Test::Pod author only stuff?
10:28 El_Che mst
10:28 El_Che 's talk made me curious
10:28 El_Che iha
10:28 El_Che crap tablet
10:28 El_Che i have been using mouse
10:29 azawawi the Moo thing?
10:29 El_Che (and moose for heavier stuff)
10:29 azawawi actually Moo makes sense
10:29 El_Che yes, moose to slow startup for cli
10:29 El_Che mouse has been pretty good
10:29 azawawi but XS
10:29 El_Che no
10:29 bowtie azawawi, I have been using xt/kwalitee.t which complains if not present
10:29 azawawi aha sorry Mouse::XS
10:30 El_Che you have the choixe
10:30 El_Che the thing is, that even people like me, home at perl, get confused
10:30 El_Che how do you expect someone new to perl to pich the right module?
10:31 El_Che i am thrilled with the new MOP coming to perl5
10:32 azawawi you have a lot of choices that is
10:32 azawawi that's a problem on its own lol
10:32 azawawi but i like that
10:32 azawawi may the best win
10:33 El_Che choice is wonderful
10:33 El_Che but also sane defzults
10:33 El_Che defaults
10:33 azawawi one framework may be good for architecture X
10:33 azawawi but very bad in Y
10:33 azawawi because design goals are different
10:33 El_Che we're talking about OO
10:34 El_Che not something very specific
10:34 azawawi yeah
10:34 El_Che anyway, the MOP will fill up the void
10:34 azawawi yup
10:34 azawawi but for others
10:34 azawawi like ORMs
10:34 azawawi you find some religious people
10:34 El_Che and moose will be there when the power is needed
10:34 azawawi saying that X is good for every scenario
10:34 El_Che and orm ok
10:34 El_Che thzt's not core
10:34 El_Che oo is core for me
10:35 El_Che and stevan little talked about execeptions in the same talk
10:35 El_Che so they will come eventually
10:35 azawawi bowtie: tests failed for P:P:NoPaste
10:35 El_Che that's 2/3 of my list on perl weakest points
10:36 azawawi Can't locate Carp/Always.pm
10:36 azawawi bowtie:  Can't locate Carp/Always.pm
10:36 azawawi Carp::Always or Crap::Always? :)
10:36 azawawi bowtie: Warning: the following files are missing in your kit:         Debian_CPANTS.txt
10:37 bowtie azawawi, O, S*** I will go fix, silly me
10:37 azawawi bowtie:  Data::Printer missing also
10:38 azawawi El_Che: you know what be cool for testing modules, a non-persistant perlbrewed perl :)
10:38 azawawi El_Che: a clean environment to test installing modules
10:39 El_Che sloooow
10:39 El_Che :)
10:39 El_Che i am working on testing infrastructure on solaris
10:39 azawawi bowtie: final missing stuff, Carp::Always and Data::Printer
10:39 El_Che for the csw guys
10:39 * azawawi hides
10:40 El_Che bleads tests fine
10:40 El_Che bu t it takes a week
10:40 El_Che to test the 32 configure combinations
10:43 azawawi bowtie: it says im missing prerequisites even that it installed flawlessly...
10:43 azawawi El_Che: i was thinking like a vm... simple :)
10:43 azawawi El_Che: a non-persistant perlbrew would be cool
10:43 El_Che oh crap, you're smart
10:43 El_Che :)
10:44 El_Che anyways
10:44 azawawi El_Che: fire perlbrew X, (a copy operation) and use it
10:44 El_Che isn't that overkill
10:44 bowtie azawawi++
10:44 azawawi El_Che: afterwards kill it
10:44 bowtie http://cpan.metacpan.org/authors/id/B/BO​/BOWTIE/Padre-Plugin-Nopaste-0.50.tar.gz
10:44 azawawi 0.50?
10:44 El_Che just have a clean perl where modules are installed somewhere specific
10:44 El_Che trash the module dir
10:44 El_Che reuse
10:45 bowtie yes, look at previous version numbers
10:45 azawawi local::lib... hmm
10:47 El_Che you can even  give lib dirs at configure time
10:47 bowtie azawawi, do you have a nickname set in Padre, I have assumed that as this is a Padre nickname that the plugin should only use not change
10:47 azawawi bowtie: please fix plugin name :)
10:47 El_Che doesn't cpan install on site_dir by default anyways?
10:48 bowtie azawawi, to what?
10:48 azawawi https://metacpan.org/release/BO​WTIE/Padre-Plugin-Nopaste-0.50
10:48 azawawi "Padre, The Perl IDE." :)
10:49 azawawi El_Che: trash site_dir?
10:50 azawawi where is the Hyppolit IRC svn commit log...
10:50 azawawi i thought that was fixed
10:51 bowtie I have requested Gabor put up Hyppolit, but he is still working on it, hence bobot still stands in for him :)
10:52 El_Che azawawi: the contents, jes
10:52 El_Che y
10:52 azawawi botbot: hi
10:53 azawawi botbot: pedro?
10:53 bowtie only Hyppolit cab report on trac svn & wiki changes
10:53 azawawi what's wrong with Hyppolit?
10:53 bowtie azawawi, the old word list is with Hyppolit, in it's local yml
10:54 bowtie botbot would need to be taught from scratch
10:55 bowtie azawawi, do you want me to release pp-nopaste as 0.05, is that what you meant by name change?
10:57 azawawi 0.05 and name change from "Padre, The Perl IDE" to "NoPaste plugin for padre"
10:57 bowtie ok will do
10:59 bowtie how about 'NoPaste plugin for Padre, The Perl IDE'
10:59 azawawi sure
11:00 bowtie will do, thanks for the kick, I kind of miss it :)
11:00 El_Che azawawi: is porting tidy to core realistic?
11:00 El_Che it's the most useful plugin in my opinion
11:01 El_Che while at it, convert core to Moo ;)
11:02 El_Che bbl
11:02 bowtie lol
11:03 bowtie any other silly's before I push again :)
11:07 azawawi El_Che: yeah i'll move it :)
11:11 bowtie If at first ;) -> http://cpan.metacpan.org/authors/id/B/BO​/BOWTIE/Padre-Plugin-Nopaste-0.05.tar.gz
11:14 azawawi Checking if your kit is complete... Warning: the following files are missing in your kit:         Debian_CPANTS.txt
11:14 bowtie El_Che, there is still the issue of a web-dev plugin, plack, catalyst, mojo, dancer
11:14 azawawi bowtie: installs but there is that warning
11:15 bowtie azawawi, come nopaste it :)
11:15 bowtie s/come/come on/
11:16 azawawi lol
11:16 azawawi ok
11:19 azawawi bowtie: http://pastie.org/4631788
11:19 azawawi bowtie++
11:23 bowtie azawawi, ok, I am on it,
11:35 bowtie http://cpan.metacpan.org/authors/id/B/BO​/BOWTIE/Padre-Plugin-Nopaste-0.06.tar.gz
11:35 bowtie azawawi, thanks
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13:19 El_Che ah
13:19 El_Che free wifi at the children's indoor playground
13:20 bowtie El_Che, now you will be able to monitor them, where ever they go
13:21 El_Che working on the chip under the skin
13:24 bowtie http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/​Microchip_implant_%28human%29
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15:53 azawawi cpanm http://cpan.metacpan.org/authors/id/A/AZ/AZ​AWAWI/Mojolicious-Plugin-Pedro-0.03.tar.gz
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17:06 bowtie azawawi, ok, I have installed and ran pedro with out errors, what next
17:28 bowtie I am thinking of hacking this back in to Padre using FormBuilder
17:28 bowtie One of our features is missing... Skelton Build or Module::Starter
17:28 bowtie http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/1324
17:28 bowtie any thoughts on 'it generates evil distros'
17:28 bowtie any critiques welcome
17:28 bowtie if you don't remember what it is see -> http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wiki/​Features/ProjectSkeletonGeneration
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20:33 bowtie I think we have another server outage
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21:01 azawawi bowtie: ping
21:02 bowtie pong
21:02 bowtie look like server is back up
21:02 bowtie azawawi, pong
21:02 azawawi i switched to codemirror js editing component in pedro
21:02 azawawi that's what i was trying to showcase
21:02 azawawi 0.04 is next :)
21:03 bowtie cool :)
21:03 azawawi see changes... http://code.google.com/p/mojoli​cious-plugin-pedro/source/list
21:03 bowtie thanks for the kick today, I have missed it :)
21:05 bowtie codemirror as per earlier links
21:05 azawawi yup
21:05 azawawi that's the one used nowadays... a lot
21:05 bowtie things change so quickly I must be getting old
21:06 azawawi i want to run perlito + pedro :)
21:06 azawawi that's my objective
21:06 bowtie same thinking as before
21:07 azawawi i read gabor and fglock were talking about that
21:07 azawawi and i was like...
21:07 azawawi that's what pedro is all about :)
21:07 bowtie azawawi, talking about link, please
21:09 azawawi i dont remember where though...
21:09 azawawi some YAPC thing
21:09 bowtie ok
21:10 azawawi one moment i think i got it
21:10 azawawi http://blogs.perl.org/user​s/flavio_s_glock/2012/08/
21:10 azawawi http://blogs.perl.org/users/flavio_s​_glock/2012/08/perl-courseware-for-t​he-web-using-client-side-perl.html
21:13 bowtie azawawi, how far behind or in front is pedro to perlito
21:14 azawawi http://cpan.metacpan.org/authors/id/A/AZ/AZ​AWAWI/Mojolicious-Plugin-Pedro-0.04.tar.gz   # all codemirror features integrated
21:14 azawawi cpanm http://cpan.metacpan.org/authors/id/A/AZ/AZ​AWAWI/Mojolicious-Plugin-Pedro-0.04.tar.gz
21:16 azawawi not far... im reading how perlito can be integrated
21:16 azawawi https://github.com/fglock/Perlito
21:17 azawawi ofcourse it means P5/6 :)
21:18 bowtie azawawi, can you stop, pedro from launching browser, my poor old mc dose not like it
21:18 azawawi sure
21:18 azawawi once i convert it to use commands :)
21:18 azawawi mojo commands
21:19 bowtie azawawi, it trys to start chrome, but I use firefox or midori
21:19 azawawi Browser::Open
21:20 bowtie never chrome, to many built in google antics cruff for me
21:20 azawawi actually if you want js speed then chrome is your first choice
21:20 azawawi chrome is a js speed demon
21:21 bowtie ok, but I am not a js junky
21:23 bowtie azawawi, have you talked to adamk recently
21:23 azawawi nop
21:23 azawawi i was and still having work problems btw
21:23 azawawi that's why so low bandwidth to do things
21:24 azawawi btw... perlito is not that complete
21:24 azawawi for example...
21:25 azawawi say $_ for 1..10   # works
21:25 azawawi but
21:25 azawawi say for 1..10  # doesnt
21:28 azawawi i also found a way to parse X<> stuff in perldoc
21:28 azawawi hence pedro help system will be more advanced :)
21:30 bowtie that's interesting, I think padre uses pod2html, I do not like the output, I use mojo for my local lib it's cool
21:35 azawawi let me get the link for the new experimental code
21:35 azawawi http://code.google.com/p/mojolicious-plugin-​pedro/source/browse/trunk/attic/pod_index.pl
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21:39 azawawi alright perlito + pedro are working now :)
21:40 bowtie azawawi, can you do -> http://perlcabal.org/~fglock/perlito5.html inc execute
21:41 azawawi yup
21:42 bowtie azawawi, but i only have pedro v0.04
21:43 azawawi prettifying it a bit.. give me a sec
21:43 bowtie ok
22:00 azawawi padre + perlito 0.05 inc
22:01 bowtie don't you mean pedro + perlito -> 0.05 :)
22:02 azawawi yeah ...
22:02 azawawi yeah... :)
22:02 azawawi sleepy lol
22:02 azawawi and zombieland is starting lol
22:02 bowtie ok, night
22:04 azawawi cpanm http://cpan.metacpan.org/authors/id/A/AZ/AZ​AWAWI/Mojolicious-Plugin-Pedro-0.05.tar.gz
22:05 azawawi not bad
22:05 azawawi fglock++
22:07 shadowpaste "bowtie" at 217.168.150.38 pasted "Hello Pedro 1 2 3 Done." (6 lines) at http://paste.scsys.co.uk/206886
22:08 bowtie hoho, azawawi is cooking on gas :)
22:15 * azawawi time to sleep & :)
22:34 bowtie &
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