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IRC log for #padre, 2012-09-03

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06:36 azawawi gm
06:47 azawawi cpanm http://cpan.metacpan.org/authors/id/A/AZ/AZ​AWAWI/Mojolicious-Plugin-Pedro-0.07.tar.gz  # Perl::Critic support
06:52 azawawi damn... lol
06:53 azawawi wrong link
06:53 azawawi cpanm http://cpan.metacpan.org/authors/id/A/AZ/AZ​AWAWI/Mojolicious-Plugin-Pedro-0.08.tar.gz # Perl::Critic support... Please ignore the other link
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08:38 azawawi http://code.google.com/p/farabi/   # Pedro is dead, long live farabi... :)
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08:42 bowtie gm
08:43 azawawi gm
08:44 bowtie azawawi, p-116, I have to move my eyes to see the help for actions, I was expecting it in right lower, not right upper
08:44 azawawi yeah i know
08:44 azawawi will fix it :)
08:45 azawawi http://code.google.com/p/mojoli​cious-plugin-pedro/source/list  # language mode selector
08:45 azawawi but that's in svn
08:46 bowtie azawawi, can you add some errors to file, so that perlcritic show some thing, ie strict+warnings -> strictures
08:46 bowtie svn up, on the way
08:47 azawawi im working on moving stuff to a Mojo app (i.e. farabi)
08:47 bowtie azawawi, pedro still at p-116
08:48 azawawi next step is when you select a language, farabi tells you more information... link... what's this language...
08:48 azawawi you dont know YAML... we'll provide links to it...
08:48 azawawi hence better learning
08:48 azawawi and help system is next
08:49 bowtie azawawi, I will go look at new dialog when you are ready, more Tea now while you brew p117 :)
08:50 azawawi see what i meant that HTML+javascript is very easy to deal with
08:50 azawawi for UI and rapid prototyping
08:50 azawawi my ideas is to be a bit more smart about tidy
08:51 azawawi and critique
08:51 azawawi but not too smart ~~ :)
08:51 bowtie dou you mean -> !~~
08:51 azawawi when you save, a notification popup tells you that your code is not tidied...
08:51 bowtie s/dou/do/
08:52 azawawi or it has perlcritic warnings/errors
08:52 bowtie go back one, code fails perl -c
08:52 azawawi and an examine link is provided
08:53 azawawi bowtie: cpanm http://cpan.metacpan.org/authors/id/A/AZ/AZ​AWAWI/Mojolicious-Plugin-Pedro-0.09.tar.gz  # language selector
08:54 azawawi bowtie: gonna stop now updating this project and focus on farabi :)
08:54 bowtie azawawi, I am pulling from svn still p116
08:55 azawawi bowtie: take the last one... maybe Perl::Critic missing?
08:56 bowtie ok, getting p-117 now
09:02 bowtie azawawi, I have a critique button in dialog, but it looks like it's just for show at the moment :)
09:03 azawawi stderr?
09:03 El_Che hi
09:03 El_Che screenshots somewhere
09:04 bowtie El_Che, gm
09:04 azawawi El_Che: hi
09:04 El_Che hi
09:06 bowtie El_Che, take a look -> http://code.google.com/p/mojoli​cious-plugin-pedro/source/list
09:09 El_Che I follow a talk about a guy working on a webb based ide
09:09 azawawi and?
09:11 El_Che I wan't too sure about it
09:11 El_Che seems like an overkill at the time
09:11 El_Che I am sure you will prove me wrong :)
09:19 azawawi it is playground for new ideas
09:20 azawawi s/is/is a/
09:25 azawawi i think of it as a way for Perl to actually enter devices
09:25 azawawi since web is everywhere
09:25 azawawi nowadays
09:28 El_Che ok
09:28 El_Che I see you talking
09:28 El_Che it makes sense
09:29 El_Che do you know flavio glock?
09:29 El_Che he works on perlito
09:29 El_Che compile perl - js
09:29 El_Che that could be a way to get perl 5/6 on ios
09:29 El_Che android
09:29 El_Che etc
09:29 El_Che it took me a while to understand what he was exactly doing, but it *is* very interesting
09:30 azawawi perlito5 is already in pedro lol
09:31 azawawi cpanm Mojolicious::Plugin::Pedro  # try it
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10:33 azawawi finally refactoring is done into a mojo app
10:33 azawawi http://cpan.metacpan.org/authors/i​d/A/AZ/AZAWAWI/Farabi-0.01.tar.gz
10:34 bowtie azawawi, what's the difference?
10:35 azawawi smaller name... :)
10:35 azawawi not a plugin by default...
10:35 bowtie do I need to unload previous from cpan
10:38 azawawi nop...
10:38 azawawi if you like that is...
10:38 azawawi separate namespaces...
10:41 bowtie Could not fetch authors/id/http://cpan.metacpan.org/authors/i​d/A/AZ/AZAWAWI/Farabi-0.01.tar.gz
10:41 azawawi cpanm http://cpan.metacpan.org/authors/i​d/A/AZ/AZAWAWI/Farabi-0.01.tar.gz
10:42 azawawi maybe mirroring problem?
10:43 bowtie it's not got to metacpan yet even though Padre CPAN feature shows it as recent
10:43 azawawi I just installed it btw
10:44 bowtie from local code :)
10:44 azawawi nop... from that command
10:44 bowtie https://metacpan.org/search?q=Farabi
10:45 azawawi normal elastic search delay
10:45 azawawi https://metacpan.org/recent
10:48 bowtie azawawi, ok got with cpanm, how do I run it
10:48 azawawi farabi daemon
10:48 azawawi # that's the normal way for running mojo apps
10:49 azawawi # and then http://127.0.0.1:3000/
10:50 bowtie up and running, cool
10:51 azawawi now begins the power of the web... :)
10:51 azawawi no need for threading... etc...
10:52 azawawi tidy, critique will be queued...
10:52 azawawi and you see results in the end
10:52 azawawi El_Che: ping
10:53 bowtie run now shows output in dialog, cool
10:53 bowtie is critique working
10:53 azawawi yup
10:54 azawawi takes time... since Perl::Critic is heavy a bit
10:54 azawawi first time that is
10:55 bowtie I just commented out strictures, and ran Critic no output
11:01 bowtie azawawi, when you switch themes the font size changes
11:02 azawawi that's something with codemirror
11:02 bowtie ok
11:02 azawawi some themes are not 100% written right
11:03 bowtie a broken mirror :)
11:03 * azawawi focus on help system now...
11:04 azawawi http://code.google.com/p/farabi/source/detail?r=16
11:04 azawawi # fixed... bowtie++
11:11 bowtie azawawi, ok farabi f-16 via svn up and running, with a working Critic :)
11:48 bowtie azawawi, f-17, help search, how do I see it in action
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12:21 bowtie azawawi, cool, help dialogue
12:25 bowtie azawawi, have you seen -> http://blogs.perl.org/users/liz/​2012/08/as-some-of-you-may.html && http://mdk.per.ly/2012/08/20/prs201​2-perl5-perl6-reunification-summit/
12:41 azawawi Perlito has a lot of potential
12:42 bowtie as you are showing with Farabi :)
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12:54 moh hello all - downloading .92 for osx - no updated version yet?
12:54 azawawi moh: hi
12:55 moh I mean... no updated version for osx yet? :-)
12:55 moh gotta run now, but just wanted to drop a line and say thanks for what is there!
12:56 azawawi bowtie: http://padre.perlide.org/site2/
13:04 garu azawawi++ # where can we get a screenshot of farabi in action?
13:06 garu btw, I have some mixed feelings about /site2 ... on one hand it's much nicer than our current site. On the second hand it screams "Twitter Bootstrap" all over it :)
13:07 bowtie garu, hi
13:08 El_Che hi garu
13:08 garu hi bowtie!
13:08 El_Che is that a mojo site?
13:08 garu hi El_Che!
13:08 garu El_Che: what do you mean?
13:08 bowtie some one the other day did that, did they not
13:09 El_Che site2
13:09 El_Che is that static?
13:10 bowtie As there are so many of us around today, I thought I would ask, any body got any ideas on 'Hyppolit'
13:10 bowtie a quite silence echoes around the channel :)
13:12 azawawi El_Che: szabgab just gave commit access to someone who dropped that site2. Please check the trac timeline.
13:14 garu bowtie: I was about to say szabgab never replied to my email but it turns out he did - how did I miss that? :/
13:14 bowtie this is http://irclog.perlgeek.de/​padre/2012-08-27#i_5933750
13:14 bowtie garu, and?
13:14 azawawi nferraz++
13:15 azawawi garu: No screenshots yet. But you can install it quickly and try it using your browser.
13:16 garu bowtie: and I really need to reply that
13:16 bowtie well I can think of two others mj41 and buffer who have been after svn commit bit's for age's
13:18 bowtie who is nferraz, why such a preference, only 5 days to svn commit bit, life a bitch :)
13:19 bowtie garu, we voiced concerns about bootstrap see like above
13:21 garu brb &
13:32 bowtie akf
14:05 azawawi bowtie: ping
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15:40 nferraz hey guys
15:40 bowtie nferraz, hi
15:40 nferraz Gabor gave me commit rights, so I uploaded the html code of the new layout to
15:40 nferraz http://padre.perlide.org/site2/index.html
15:42 nferraz it's not complete, but the code is on svn...
15:43 bowtie mote page than the other day
15:44 bowtie how about some low hanging fruit -> the irc link
15:46 nferraz yes, there's something to do: the irc link, documentation, etc
15:47 nferraz just wanted to share the news, that the code is on svn
15:48 bowtie nferraz, I was thinking along the lines of one complete page at a time, it will be easier for others to follow and critique
15:49 nferraz ah, I see
15:49 nferraz yes, that's a good idea
15:49 bowtie as you have already done the Social links
16:01 bowtie All, is there a Change log for Padre web site, if so where?
16:07 nferraz just changed the contacts page: http://padre.perlide.org/site2/contact.html
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16:11 botbot Welcome mib_ytw62s
16:11 mib_ytw62s nferraz: help if you test it :)
16:13 bowtie nferraz, cool, now you can give a link for a complete page and ask for critiques :) don't for get get to test though :)
16:14 nferraz ok :)
16:14 nferraz did you find any problems in this page???
16:16 bowtie nferraz, no issues, all links tested, but I don't like the look, we will have see what others think
16:16 nferraz oh, feel free to make changes if you wish
16:17 nferraz let's keep in mind the old look; do you like it less than the old version?
16:18 nferraz anyway - I put it on svn so other people could look and contribute if they wish
16:18 bowtie nferraz, let's ignore the look and feel, for now as it's a bike shed subject
16:19 bowtie now on the Padre Orginal web ( w1) new (w2)
16:20 bowtie now on w1 there is much more copy about irc and dev list, dose the copy on w2 convey the same info across
16:23 nferraz would you prefer a strict copy of the original text? I tried to be more succinct and go direct to the point
16:25 bowtie me, being dyslexic, is not the right person to ask, but I was only asking the basic dose it work (did you test it) and dose it convey the same message,
16:26 bowtie nferraz,  so that's pass one done on Contact, what page are you going to do next?
16:27 nferraz I thought about download...
16:28 nferraz in the original version, there is too much information... I tried to make just four options: windows, mac, linux and source code
16:29 bowtie download makes sense as there is a menu item for it
16:29 bowtie nferraz, go for it :)
16:56 nferraz ok, here's the new version:
16:56 nferraz http://padre.perlide.org/site2/download.html
17:05 bowtie botbot: tell nferraz whot no icons, links to wiki pages more of please, and Notice/License/(c) info is missing, active state
17:05 botbot bowtie, I'll tell that nferraz when we see each other.
17:07 bowtie botbot: tell nferraz http://packages.debian.org/sid/padre also, for more info ask dod
17:07 botbot bowtie, I'll tell that nferraz when we see each other.
17:19 bowtie botbot: tell azawawi using t-24, but I can't get F1 to display anything
17:19 botbot bowtie, I'll tell that azawawi when we see each other.
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19:06 bowtie azawawi, pong
19:07 azawawi you know what... that's what happens when you overlook at technology... i.e. Twitter Bootstrap lol
19:07 azawawi s/at/a/
19:08 azawawi http://twitter.github.com/bootstr​ap/components.html#labels-badges
19:08 azawawi not bad
19:10 bowtie azawawi, I take it you are a fan of bootstrap
19:13 azawawi im becoming
19:16 bowtie it reminds me of facebook, all pages(sites) look the same, sole-less, like they have been generated by a us conglomerate
19:18 bowtie it's like a flash back, to that naff ms web page designer, who's name I have now forgotten, no more nightmares :)
19:19 azawawi fyi i was a flash as3 developer
19:19 azawawi lol
19:20 azawawi http://twitter.github.com/boo​tstrap/javascript.html#alerts    # my idea for catching an error :)
19:20 azawawi snap!
19:20 bowtie flash, don't get me started, that was one of steeves better decisions dump
19:22 azawawi you wont believe that i developed Arabic gestured-based support on flash...
19:22 azawawi it is all technology to get you somewhere...
19:22 azawawi in the end
19:22 azawawi what do you think of farabi so far btw?
19:23 azawawi F1 is not working because it is not finding the perldoc pod folder...
19:23 bowtie farabi, yes, an interesting subject at last :)
19:24 bowtie you mean has got it's self lost, take the blinkers off then :)
19:25 bowtie it is going to use existing, not generate it's own stuff
19:25 azawawi yeah yeah... experimenting... :)
19:28 bowtie that's it, now I know what bootstrap reminds me of pod2html,
19:29 azawawi pod2html sucks...
19:29 bowtie talking of which, what can one use to get a nicer result, any ideas
19:30 azawawi when you feed it some pod fragment that is
19:30 azawawi do you what's the problem with old Perl libs in general?
19:30 azawawi and why we're sometimes have trouble integrating them into Padre, farabi, ..etc
19:31 azawawi s/have/having/
19:31 bowtie even the example pages you have just given me, look like they are an homage to pod2html esp the <h1>
19:31 azawawi s/libs/modules/
19:32 azawawi Pod::Critic has a new interface...
19:32 azawawi i classify it as a true API
19:32 azawawi that is... it was made by design to be consumed by programs + cli
19:32 azawawi some others in core perl
19:32 azawawi they're like cli-based
19:33 azawawi spitting warnings into stderr... :)
19:33 bowtie do you mean Perl::Critic
19:33 azawawi while it should return them via @warnings for example
19:33 azawawi not Perl::Critic... Perl::Critic is great...
19:33 azawawi im reading https://metacpan.org/modul​e/Perl::Critic::Violation
19:34 azawawi Pod::Simple...
19:34 bowtie Aha
19:34 azawawi You'll say q{what the..}. a couple of times tracing Pod::Simple code :)
19:35 azawawi it is trying too hard but in the end, it should have used a templating system
19:35 azawawi to be completely generic
19:35 bowtie why not just PPI
19:35 azawawi PPI is great also
19:36 azawawi but some core Perl modules are like cli-based API...
19:36 azawawi enough ranting... back to work :)
19:45 mj41 azawawi Can you look at https://github.com/mj41/Padre/commit/e4​8c4cd0fc089979f9fb78d8084cd0f7219b1ce8 and https://github.com/mj41/Padre/commit/32​3a1fb4e50d6264a4f36d95bcc1df8e0630b6d1 from branch https://github.com/mj41/Padre/c​ommits/mj-clipboard-fix-global ?
19:45 bowtie mj41, hi
19:45 * azawawi takes a look
19:45 azawawi mj41: hi there :)
19:46 mj41 bowtie: azawawi : hi
19:47 bowtie mj41, did you see -> http://irclog.perlgeek.de/​padre/2012-09-03#i_5956739
19:47 mj41 bowtie: new web? ... nice ... I'm author of http://brno.pm.org/ :-)
19:48 bowtie mj41, go back a bit further
19:49 azawawi mj41: sounds fine
19:50 azawawi mj41: but what was the problem with $self->{Clipboard_Old} ?
19:50 azawawi hmmm
19:50 mj41 bowtie: about commit bit for me? ... I really don't care much :-) ... I'm waiting for switch to Git/GitHub :-).
19:50 bowtie mj41, ok
19:51 azawawi mj41: btw i was like git is fast... wow... until svn 1.7 landed... :)
19:51 mj41 btw I hope my Czenglish (English) is understandable :-).
19:52 azawawi mj41: have u seen https://metacpan.org/module/Farabi ?
19:52 azawawi mj41: s/seen/tried...
19:52 azawawi im not a native speaker also :)
19:54 mj41 azawawi: With $self->{Cli... instead of $Cli... you can't select text, Ctlr+C in one editor/tab and select text, Ctrl+V in another one to replace it. Because $self is another object there.
19:55 azawawi and because clipboard is in the end a single object
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19:57 mj41 I hope something like my proof of concept should be used to resolve another 50% of 3 years old http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/390 :-)
19:59 mj41 http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/6885
20:01 azawawi hopefully :)
20:03 azawawi bowtie: interesting information to display in farabi (Perl critic results dialog)
20:03 azawawi bowtie: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1184303/
20:05 mj41 azawawi bowtie : What you think about switch to Git/Github? Probably with separation of plugins to own repositories. Also there is probably a way to switch from trac as Parrot people did https://github.com/parrot/parrot/issues
20:06 azawawi i dont have a problem with it
20:06 azawawi it is a new thing for me to try ... :)
20:06 mj41 azawawi: svn 1.7 has local cache of "svn info" ?
20:06 bowtie afk
20:06 azawawi mj41: let me check it...
20:07 azawawi mj41: i use tortoisesvn a lot
20:07 azawawi mj41: yup local...
20:07 mj41 azawawi: great news for me :-)
20:08 azawawi mj41: .svn folder has sqlite db... that's how they speeded it up
20:08 azawawi mj41: no more .svn folder everywhere...
20:09 azawawi mj41: but the default on my distro is still <1.7 ... that's why the perception is that svn is slow...
20:09 azawawi mj41: svn 1.7 can interface with svn<1.7 servers
20:09 mj41 I switched to Git a 1,5 year ago .. with new employer ... so I don't know anything new about svn.
20:09 azawawi svn is easy to use
20:10 mj41 azawawi: Are you familiar with Git?
20:10 azawawi a bit... but not much
20:10 azawawi but the learning curve of git is higher than svn
20:10 azawawi i know you get more in the end
20:11 mj41 azawawi: Switch from SVN to Git is ... forget everything you know about version control systems :-).
20:11 azawawi i use it a lot in my current employer.
20:11 azawawi and im working in win32 work-env
20:12 azawawi github pull requests are pretty interesting
20:13 azawawi i think it will improve on the hey-here-is-patch-wait-to-add padre cycle...
20:14 mj41 yes, using Github for open source projects is probably the best choice today.
20:14 azawawi i might try it in farabi though :)
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20:15 mj41 azawawi: Successfully installed Farabi-0.02
20:15 azawawi cool
20:16 azawawi farabi daemon  # to start it webserver... and http://127.0.0.1:3000/
20:17 mj41 azawawi: It would be great to have cooperate/multiuser mode for users withou Padre installed :-).
20:18 bowtie back
20:18 * mj41 reading Farabi docs, azawawi++
20:19 bowtie her is my issue with github, you want to add to a project, first you have to trunk, then check out ...
20:20 bowtie but the fun is when you want to make another change later, resync trunk to master O what fun
20:20 azawawi P:P:Swarm that is web version :)
20:23 mj41 bowtie: I don't know about git svn much ... I can only pull from remote svn ... and rebasing my work on trunk:HEAD is easy
20:25 mj41 bowtie: but not sure what you meant to say
20:26 mj41 :-)
20:26 bowtie mj41, so be far, I think part of the issue is that there appiers to be very little software to support git esp github, unlike tortisesvn
20:27 mj41 I only need ... git cli, git gui and gitk in my daily work
20:27 mj41 but I know it is not easy to switch from svn to git
20:27 bowtie mj41, have you ever had dealings with doc management system, if so github would not pass the front door
20:28 bowtie it's to do with the extra layers, demarcation,
20:31 mj41 bowtie: we are experimenting with Github in $work ... and it is not ideal for private repos and many users ... but it helps open source much
20:32 bowtie mj41, svn ci, just one line, one step,
20:33 mj41 I was using svn for 4 years before ... and it was good enough for our small team ... but now I really love git
20:33 bowtie remember, vcs let you walk backwards
20:34 mj41 bowtie: but I like experiment in you branch, prepare commits, rebase a lot ... send pull request .. wait for code review ... flow
20:35 bowtie mj41, I con-seed that with a desperate dev team, git makes sense, but why O why would you want your corporate code on a 3rd party server
20:38 mj41 bowtie: we are SaaS company :-) ... we know that emplyee notebooks without encrypted hdds so 3rd party server is not so bad :-) ... and now they gat 100mil$ so maybe they can look on secure a bit
20:38 bowtie mj41,  my other issue is being dyslexic things like vcs I do via IDE, so which IDE can you use to the full against GitHub
20:40 mj41 bowtie: are you familiar with git? ... there is always local copy of your code ... and links to remote repositories to do "git push"
20:40 mj41 and for local copy ... there is "git gui" to prepare your commit and commit, and e.g. gitk to look at git log in gui
20:41 bowtie mj41, I ply with it, a bit, I always have to refer to a wiki page, though
20:42 bowtie I have been playing with gitg and git-cola
20:42 mj41 bowtie: np, I only need to know how much time I should spend working on https://github.com/mj41/padre-svn-git :-)
20:43 mj41 but now I understand "git svn" a bit ... so I can use it locally
20:44 bowtie mj41, there's a ticket I did with some code for git, but it was just to local repro, that's the issue.
20:45 bowtie mj41, there is a p-p-git
20:49 mj41 bowtie: Padre::Plugin::Git - Not compatible with Padre 0.97 - Padre::Util is not back-compatible with 0.94 ... I should probably look at it.
20:50 bowtie mj41, revision 19380
20:51 mj41 bowtie: I can help with Git. Do you still want to push your local repo to Github? :-)
20:51 bowtie mj41, I have just fixed that.
20:52 bowtie mj41, I have https://github.com/kevindawson
20:53 azawawi bowtie: http://code.google.com/p/farabi/source/detail?r=25
20:53 bowtie mj41, is it possible to handle local git, git fork, git hub master, rebase and pull reqs from within a pp-git
21:00 bowtie azawawi, run out of local resources, sorry
21:02 mj41 bowtie: now I see Git -> Commit  ... is this plugin useful? :-) ... can I hack on it?
21:04 bowtie mj41, take a look at this first -> http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/1444
21:05 bowtie mj41, is there an open source version of github I can run on my servers
21:07 mj41 bowtie: you probably don't want to maintain remote git repo ... see chapter 4 of http://git-scm.com/book
21:08 mj41 bowtie: you can setup "remote" repo inside another dir of your localhost
21:08 mj41 bowtie: imho, there are not diferencies
21:12 mj41 hmm ... Vesion Control panel ... I see this probably the first time :-)
21:12 * azawawi is preparing farabi 0.03   # Ctrl-1 (actions), Ctrl-2 (output), ... no more selector lol bowtie++
21:14 bowtie mj41, yes, looked at ch4, looks very like setting up svn, I think I have done this before, as foe client server stuff, I find the model works best on devices (physical)
21:14 azawawi bowtie: you'll like 0.03 perl critic :)
21:15 bowtie azawawi, ok
21:15 bowtie azawawi, what f-xx is that
21:17 mj41 ok, time to sleep ... I need to order my Padre-ToDo list somehow :-) ... probably I should continue to fix bugs that annoy me everyday at work first :-)
21:18 azawawi mj41++
21:18 mj41 so goodnight from Czech republic
21:18 bowtie mj41, night
21:19 bowtie azawawi, at f-27
21:19 azawawi cool and ? :)
21:20 bowtie where has the little colour menue gone
21:21 azawawi bye... bye
21:22 azawawi ctrl-1... ctrl-2...
21:22 bowtie azawawi, now I just hope the open tabs
21:24 bowtie azawawi, if dialogue open, then ctrl-1 cause tab hopping :)
21:25 bowtie azawawi, can we have both for now, bring back selector :), all is forgiven
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21:27 azawawi dont worry... will fix them
21:27 bowtie cool
21:27 azawawi in the end i wanted a single one
21:27 azawawi single key
21:27 azawawi one menu to bind them all
21:27 azawawi with autocompletion
21:27 bowtie it's called the mouse :)
21:28 azawawi mighty mouse?
21:28 azawawi Did you try critique?
21:28 bowtie not as precious
21:30 bowtie azawawi++
21:30 bowtie that's really cool
21:30 azawawi finally showing the power of Perl::Critic... :)
21:31 bowtie can we add that in to pp-perlcritc, as short or full info
21:31 azawawi sure
21:31 azawawi we're experimenting
21:31 azawawi and learning
21:32 bowtie botbot: tell garu go look at critic in Farabi
21:32 botbot bowtie, I'll tell that garu when we see each other.
21:35 azawawi cpanm http://cpan.metacpan.org/authors/i​d/A/AZ/AZAWAWI/Farabi-0.03.tar.gz
21:35 * azawawi time to sleep... Thanks for all the fish :)
21:36 bowtie azawawi, night
21:36 bowtie botbot: tell garu cpanm http://cpan.metacpan.org/authors/i​d/A/AZ/AZAWAWI/Farabi-0.03.tar.gz
21:36 botbot bowtie, I'll tell that garu when we see each other.
21:37 azawawi night
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22:06 mrg hi there
22:06 botbot Welcome zenog
22:07 bowtie zenog,  hi
22:07 zenog New homepage design looks good.
22:07 zenog Sorry I have not been around for quite some time. New job etc.
22:08 zenog Seems like there has not been a release in a while.
22:09 bowtie ok, home page, yes and no from me, look reminds me of pod2html
22:09 bowtie lots done, see change log
22:09 zenog But looks nicer and more minimalistic.
22:10 bowtie zenog, are you supposed to be an op here
22:10 zenog No idea.
22:11 bowtie were you before
22:11 zenog You mean on IRC?
22:11 bowtie yes
22:11 zenog No, I do not think so. Maybe sometimes.
22:12 bowtie ok, I was going to op you
22:12 zenog Are there plans for getting a release out soon?
22:12 zenog I could have a look at translations, do some QA etc.
22:13 bowtie as far as I recall, adamk wanted the translators to do there thing, for 0.98, I have just been plodding around for fun
22:14 zenog Still everything in SVN, right?
22:15 bowtie yes, except for PPIx-Editortools, and mj41 plugins
22:16 bowtie I think these are the main issues needing attention before 1.0 -> http://padre.perlide.org/trac/query?status=accep​ted&amp;status=assigned&amp;status=new&amp;statu​s=reopened&amp;version=0.96&amp;version=0.94&amp​;type=defect&amp;col=id&amp;col=summary&amp;col=​status&amp;col=type&amp;col=priority&amp;col=mil​estone&amp;col=component&amp;order=priority
22:16 zenog okay.
22:17 zenog But there will be releases before 1.0?
22:17 bowtie I think we can ignore the DWIMPerl ones
22:17 bowtie yes, I would think so,
22:17 bowtie just giving you the low down from my view point
22:19 zenog Cool, thx.
22:20 bowtie I think #1400 could be closed as it can not be fixed, it's just life
22:20 zenog When is the switch to the new website planned?
22:21 bowtie I might be a good idea if it is all converted first, only 2 pages so far, have had a first pass
22:25 zenog sure
22:26 bowtie you will have lots of time, to influence the process :)
22:28 bowtie zenog, is your padre trunk up to date
22:33 zenog not yet ... but soon
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