Camelia, the Perl 6 bug

IRC log for #padre, 2012-09-06

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08:44 bowtie gm
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08:56 bowtie azawawi, hi
08:57 bowtie azawawi, are you going to enable file loading, file save in Farabi
08:57 bowtie azawawi, also how about split screen, same file or two files :)
08:58 bowtie azawawi, I thought you would like that :)
09:12 azawawi new issue plz... lol
09:12 azawawi btw i got my issue... already
09:12 azawawi not bad
09:12 azawawi right? :)
09:14 azawawi i have been thinking about nopaste and Farabi and sharing...
09:15 azawawi and the problem with opening local stuff and running local stuff
09:15 azawawi i know  there is q{use Safe;}
09:17 azawawi https://metacpan.org/module/Safe#RISKS
09:19 azawawi re sharing, state can be saved inside a pastie...
09:20 azawawi what perl::critic options do we need to expose to the newbie?
09:20 azawawi severity?
09:21 bowtie azawawi, how about turning, the nopaste and sharing around
09:22 azawawi explain plz
09:23 bowtie as for local access we have swarm
09:23 azawawi so basically my runtime is Perlito
09:24 azawawi The problem is that Perlito is not 100% Perl complete
09:25 azawawi part of the problem relates to its being a Perl 5 / 6 project
09:25 bowtie at present, there is not a nopaste service, which allows editing of code on the nopaste server, run would be out of the question in nopaste mode
09:26 azawawi like http://jsfiddle.net/
09:26 azawawi or http://sqlfiddle.com/#!3/249e9
09:26 bowtie but the ability to advertise to a channel, might be of interest
09:29 bowtie azawawi, what cool links
09:31 azawawi what i liked that people started putting it online... lol http://farabi.app2.jjang.info/
09:31 azawawi see how viral is the web?
09:31 azawawi if you ask XYZ to install Padre
09:32 azawawi they will mutter in ancient words how obscure is it to install it
09:32 azawawi but if you tell them... cpan it and run this and open your browser...
09:32 azawawi it is a different issue
09:33 azawawi it is all about how much time does it take to install and try...
09:33 azawawi how nice is the documentation
09:33 azawawi and UI
09:33 azawawi and usability
09:33 bowtie azawawi, I like sqlfiddle, nice to se someone has customized there bootstroop code as well :)
09:34 azawawi Open in SQLFiddle... option? :)
09:35 azawawi gonna focus today on F1 usability issues and improving perl::critic severity customization
09:35 azawawi any feedback is welcome
09:36 bowtie ok, but you might wait to add the version number or build ia an about addition to your menu, as your uber fan site is old :)
09:42 bowtie azawawi, you mean the 1-11 and 1-6 stuff
09:42 bowtie opps 1-5
09:49 azawawi i've been thinking about outline in farabi :)
09:50 azawawi The problem with X<> references is that they're not 100% exact...
09:51 azawawi i was also about perl::critic bugs and a couple of suggested policies caught my eye...
09:51 azawawi https://rt.cpan.org/Public​/Bug/Display.html?id=77214
09:51 azawawi https://rt.cpan.org/Public​/Bug/Display.html?id=77143
09:52 bowtie azawawi, sily me, but what do you mean by ->  'X<>'
09:52 azawawi https://rt.cpan.org/Public​/Bug/Display.html?id=77085
09:52 azawawi https://rt.cpan.org/Public​/Bug/Display.html?id=76327
09:52 azawawi bowtie: sorry for the noise
09:52 * azawawi looks documentation for it
09:53 azawawi bowtie: https://metacpan.org/source/RJBS/​perl-5.16.1/pod/perlfunc.pod#L108
09:54 azawawi bowtie: search for it in farabi :)  X<>
09:58 bowtie azawawi, thanks
10:01 bowtie azawawi, yes, I should have thought of that, it's just we are used to a context help that is not that clever, in comparison
10:03 azawawi Mojo 3.37 # new release... :)
10:13 bowtie going from 3.36 -> 3.37 now :)
10:14 azawawi i started using Mojo templates inside Farabi... not bad...
10:14 azawawi good for refactoring HTML fragments so far
10:14 azawawi https://metacpan.org/module/Mojo::Template
10:17 sugar azawawi: a u use mojo-template without mojo?
10:17 azawawi no with mojo
10:17 azawawi farabi depends on mojo
10:18 mj41 hi, wxNotebook::GetPage ... Returns the window at the given page position. ... http://docs.wxwidgets.org/2.8/wx_​wxnotebook.html#wxnotebookgetpage ... What "given page position" means? Because if I reorder my tabs, the "page positions" stay the same.
10:24 azawawi bowtie: not bad. X<> indexing all of *.pod and *.pm in @INC return a good amount of information
10:24 azawawi agm..::..::..::perl5161::perl::vendor:​:lib::Math::libPARI1071Transcendental functions
10:26 bowtie azawawi, yes to farabi pod, it's great
10:26 bowtie amg?
10:28 bowtie azawawi, I think you should extend hide to 7 seconds
10:42 azawawi mdone
10:42 azawawi done
10:42 azawawi :)
10:43 azawawi index-modules.txt now :)
10:43 bowtie ok 2^3 keeping it binary :)
10:45 bowtie azawawi, do I need to delete the index file to force recreation
10:45 azawawi yup
10:48 bowtie azawawi, you need to have one of those little black info boxes informing people you are creating indexes for the first time be patient
10:50 bowtie azawawi, when you F1 on foreach, you need to display some thing, as the drop down list has 6 items 2+4 that gives the impression that something has gone wrong
10:52 azawawi sure... planned as well rebuild index button
10:52 azawawi and storing stuff in farabi.db (sqlite)
11:01 * azawawi reboot &
11:03 mj41 ok, I should look at wxAuiNotebook not wxNotebook
11:14 mj41 hmm, probably I can't fix "save order of tabs to session" problem ... It's wxWidgets wxAuiNotebook issue :-( ... http://forums.wxwidgets.org/vie​wtopic.php?t=25693&amp;p=109906
11:34 bowtie mj41, hi, it would be nice, but, ask adam, he is popping in and now and again
11:35 bowtie botbot: tell azawawi first we had 6 now we have 12
11:35 botbot bowtie, I'll tell that azawawi when we see each other.
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13:51 azawawi bowtie: ping
14:00 bowtie azawawi, pong
14:01 azawawi if things fail while trying sample, please report to Perlito, so fglock++ can fix them
14:01 azawawi https://github.com/fglock/Perlito
14:03 bowtie azawawi, sometimes when I copy in some perl code, run fails, but I was leaving that until you had implemented open/save :)
14:07 azawawi :)
14:16 bowtie azawawi, ok, just updated, deleting index* and reloading
14:51 * azawawi home &
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17:00 bowtie As per Alias critique -> http://cpan.metacpan.org/authors/id/B/​BO/BOWTIE/Debug-Client-0.21_10.tar.gz
17:01 bowtie botbot: tell Adam please test Debug-Client-0.21_10.tar.gz against Padre trunk, thanks
17:01 botbot bowtie, I'll tell that Adam when we see each other.
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17:04 bowtie for critique see -> http://irclog.perlgeek.de/​padre/2012-09-05#i_5963184
17:12 azawawi yeah i read that yesterday!
17:12 azawawi :)
17:13 bowtie azawawi, I think that might just be the first kicking I get from Adam :)
17:17 azawawi i was thinking today about our approach of finding modules
17:17 azawawi for perl help
17:18 azawawi it is wrong!
17:18 azawawi we're assuming (or i was assuming) that there is one module per file
17:18 azawawi find all *.pm and *.pod files and parse filename...
17:18 azawawi to get module name
17:18 azawawi and add it to list
17:20 azawawi im like thinking just use metacpan API and dont reinvent the wheel :)
17:20 bowtie azawawi, this is related to the foreach having 12 responses
17:21 azawawi http://code.google.com/p/farabi/source/detail?r=84
17:24 azawawi i was also thinking of moving search into the main editor page
17:24 azawawi so to focus on editing + search
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17:25 azawawi newbies can forget to read help... but seeing a search box infront of them with autocompletion would help them a lot
17:25 azawawi *i think* :)
17:26 bowtie are you going to demo this with farabi
17:27 azawawi i noticed today #perl6 ecosystem... that is CPAN for perl 6...
17:27 azawawi it is growing
17:27 El_Che <censored>
17:27 El_Che good evening
17:27 El_Che :)
17:27 azawawi https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem/
17:28 azawawi El_Che: :)
17:28 azawawi brb... 5 min
17:29 azawawi El_Che: please read my talk above about module help
17:29 azawawi El_Che: feedback is appreciated
17:29 El_Che ok
17:29 El_Che scrolling
17:29 * azawawi brb &
17:29 El_Che finding modules?
17:30 azawawi yup
17:38 El_Che on a side note, could some of the cool make it to padre?
18:00 azawawi ok im back
18:00 bowtie ;)
18:14 dolmen azawawi: how can I change the port of farabi: 3000 is already used on my machine
18:16 azawawi --listen "http://*:4040"
18:16 azawawi it is a mojo app
18:17 azawawi farabi daemon --help
18:19 dolmen azawawi: --listen isn't in --help
18:20 azawawi farabi sub-command --help
18:21 azawawi i didnt filter mojo commands yet
18:21 azawawi the good thing about this is a user 'farabi psgi' to deploy... not bad
18:24 dolmen azawawi: cool. I'll will look at the code. It gives me ideas ;)
18:24 dolmen great to see Perlito used
18:24 azawawi fglock++
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19:03 azawawi # Ability to change Perl::Critic severity in Options. Enjoy :)
19:04 bowtie azawawi, I just noticed the very large v0.06 cool :)
19:05 bowtie azawawi, Template "editor/perl_critic.html.ep" not found.
19:08 bowtie azawawi, fixed in 0.88 :)  default Gentle lol
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