Camelia, the Perl 6 bug

IRC log for #padre, 2012-11-18

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09:53 arishy Hi How do I get the screen OUTPUT at the lower part of the workspace so I do not need the terminal screen pop up
09:54 arishy I am in W7
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12:06 shadowpaste "GlitchMr" at 217.168.150.38 pasted "I'm trying to "Check for Common (Beginner) Errors" and receive "No errors found."" (9 lines) at http://paste.scsys.co.uk/214544
12:07 GlitchMr I don't know why it doesn't find any issues with that.
12:07 GlitchMr I'm sure I did everything incorrectly.
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12:19 bowtie GlitchMr, hi
12:20 bowtie Can't use global $/ in "my", near "my $/ "
12:20 bowtie or from perl -c
12:21 bowtie Can't use global $/ in "my" at filename.pl line 3, near "my $/ "
12:22 bowtie did you enable 'show syntax check' in view
12:24 GlitchMr No
12:27 bowtie don't forget to look at our wiki -> http://padre.perlide.org/trac​/wiki/Features/SyntaxChecking
12:29 bowtie GlitchMr, can you see this now, ps what version of Padre and os are you using
12:30 GlitchMr 'The most secure solution would require a really fast non-executing syntax checker which unfortunately is currently not available.'
12:30 GlitchMr Impossible. You have to execute Perl to run it
12:30 GlitchMr parse it*
12:32 bowtie all features are turned on in View, some you need to enable first in Tools -> Prefs ->Features
12:32 bowtie ps what version of Padre and os are you using?
12:32 GlitchMr Kubuntu Linux 12.10
12:32 bowtie thanks
12:32 GlitchMr Padre from repositories, I will check
12:32 GlitchMr Padre 0.96
12:33 bowtie imho you will need to talk to the p5p people if you want to suggest an alternative to perl -c
12:34 GlitchMr I just wanted to say it's impossible to check Perl syntax without executing it
12:34 GlitchMr One of problems is called prototypes
12:34 bowtie correct, it's an interpretor :)
12:35 GlitchMr Also, I've ugly font in certain places while using KDE:
12:35 GlitchMr http://dl.dropbox.com/u/63913412/uglyfont.png
12:35 GlitchMr How can I change it into something that looks better
12:36 GlitchMr I would like it to use "Ubuntu" font
12:36 bowtie ok font, Tools -> prefs -> editor style, you can change to suite your self
12:36 bowtie I use ubuntu mono
12:36 GlitchMr I already have tried it
12:37 GlitchMr I've changed the font of editor itself to "DejaVu Sans Mono", but the settings menu itself uses wrong font
12:37 GlitchMr And this is annoying because certain characters, like braces are simply unreadable
12:38 GlitchMr http://dl.dropbox.com/u/63913412/uglyfont.png
12:38 GlitchMr In certain places, "Ubuntu" is used (as it should), but in certain places it uses "Abyssinica SIL", the first font on list of my fonts.
12:40 bowtie ok, what happens when you go back to basics and use a courier font
12:42 GlitchMr Perhaps I fail at explaining problems
12:43 GlitchMr http://dl.dropbox.com/u/63913412/uglyfont2.png
12:43 GlitchMr For example, "Sort order" in preferences uses "Abyssinica SIL" font when it should use "Ubuntu" font
12:44 GlitchMr But it's mostly noticeable in "Item Regular Expression" text field where regular expression is unreadable.
12:46 bowtie yes I under stand, that you are getting mixed fonts, hence, Q what happens when you switch to courier
12:46 GlitchMr How can I switch to "Courier"?
12:46 bowtie Tools -> prefs -> editor style
12:47 GlitchMr I don't have "Courier" font
12:47 bowtie I am trying to find out if this happens to other fonts as well
12:48 GlitchMr I've already tried changing "Editor style"
12:48 GlitchMr It only changes the editor field itself
12:48 GlitchMr (the field where you code)
12:48 GlitchMr oh, found the problem
12:48 bowtie yes panel
12:49 GlitchMr For some reason "GTK+ Appearance" in KDE settings had wrong font
12:49 bowtie good, what is it
12:49 bowtie nice, local font issue
12:49 GlitchMr http://dl.dropbox.com/u/63913412/goodfont.png
12:50 GlitchMr Now it's fine
12:50 bowtie Ok what's next on your list
12:50 GlitchMr But I have other issue: "Prefered language for error diagnostics" list is empty
12:51 GlitchMr Should it be that way?
12:52 bowtie I don't know, you would need to raise a ticket for that
12:52 bowtie dose this interest you -> http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/wiki/TranslationIntro
12:53 GlitchMr Perhaps
12:53 bowtie new ticket -> http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wiki/Tickets
12:54 bowtie how good is the translation, this is some thing we don't get much feedback on at the moment
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16:36 bowtie GlitchMr, Prefered language for error diagnostics is fixed in Padre 0.97+
16:36 GlitchMr oh ok
16:36 bowtie sorry, I forgot, I knew that
16:40 bowtie GlitchMr, if you want to use Padre 0.97+ see -> http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wiki/Development
16:52 GlitchMr I'm still trying to get used to Padre, but currently all I have are problems ;-)
16:55 GlitchMr I'm currently using Kate as code editor, but I'm considering Padre.
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18:20 bowtie GlitchMr, ok, but what is your question
18:22 bowtie GlitchMr, it you don't list your issues, your comment is unfair
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20:07 GlitchMr https://metacpan.org/module/Padre
20:07 GlitchMr By the way, why CPAN only has 0.96?
20:09 GlitchMr oh, 0.97 isn't even
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20:26 GlitchMr Somehow I'm surprised that Padre screenshot page doesn't have KDE screenshots
20:26 GlitchMr I've made one: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/63913412/kdepadre.png
20:27 GlitchMr (that actually doesn't look that bad)
20:29 bowtie hi, the reason we don't have any KDE screen shots is that none have been provided
20:30 GlitchMr Those icons aren't really looking like Oxygen icons, but it looks like icons in toolbar look identically on every platform
20:32 GlitchMr I can see too many GNOME screenshots ;-), Mac OS X, one Windows screenshot
20:32 GlitchMr (ok, two)
20:32 bowtie please add to -> http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wiki/Screenshots
20:32 GlitchMr http://padre.perlide.org/trac/raw-attachment/​wiki/Screenshots/padre_pre0.17_openSUSE11.png
20:32 GlitchMr But I guess this is KDE
20:32 GlitchMr KDE3, but still
20:33 GlitchMr (but it's ancient screenshot)
20:39 GlitchMr I'm surprised that Padre looks so well on KDE4 considering that developers mostly use GNOME (I guess).
20:39 bowtie this is due to Wx
20:41 GlitchMr Few icons there and there (mostly about icons and menus themselves)
20:41 GlitchMr For example, Padre has "Search" option, but in KDE applications it's usually in "Edit" menu. Not that this really matters.
20:41 GlitchMr "Search" menu*
20:47 bowtie Such masters, you will have to converse with AdamK over, thats out of my scope
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