Camelia, the Perl 6 bug

IRC log for #padre, 2012-11-28

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11:50 bowtie gm
12:17 SvenDowideit moin :)
12:18 SvenDowideit I've run into something that is probably simple, but i've no idea where to tick :)
12:18 SvenDowideit the generated dialog has an Event::EVT_BUTTON hooked up to the OK button
12:19 SvenDowideit and I'd like it not to be (so it just falls through to returning ID_OK from ShowModal
12:19 SvenDowideit oh crud :)
12:19 SvenDowideit just noticed the 'events tab'
12:25 SvenDowideit i might even have this 'Debug Launch Parameters' thing working by OSCD (next week) - things seem to be coming together :)
12:28 bowtie SvenDowideit, hi
12:30 SvenDowideit heya :)
12:30 bowtie SvenDowideit, if you commit Padre.fbp we can see the dialog
12:30 bowtie hi, as current dose not have an Ok button
12:32 SvenDowideit yup, true - I've renamed it - and worked out the problem
12:33 SvenDowideit wiring up a few more little things - and then need to test - though the next few days i'll probably not have time
12:33 bowtie ok
12:36 SvenDowideit oh my, my, I'm probably doing this a little wrong first time - i just found the comboboxhistory code
12:37 SvenDowideit more learning&reading todo there :)
12:37 bowtie you have changes the dialogue title but not it's name Padre::Wx::FBP::DebugOptions
12:37 SvenDowideit yeah, true, I punted on that for today
12:38 SvenDowideit I've a number of things to move and rename before i commit for real
12:39 bowtie a little and oftern is easer to follow
12:39 SvenDowideit yeah - except i keep changing my mind and redoing things as i notice some other code to use as an example
12:39 SvenDowideit i'm still getting a feel for the codebase
12:40 bowtie the Dialog-Launch will be triggered by a valid perl file that is not current .pl or .t correct
12:40 SvenDowideit and i'm not yet sure where the best place for some things are - I just implemented get_command DB::History
12:41 SvenDowideit right now, its triggered whenever a use clicks a 'launch options' menu item
12:41 SvenDowideit but yes, i'm thinking that any time padre detects a strange 'debug request' it would make sense to ask
12:42 SvenDowideit in my case, I need that dialog when it _is_ a valid pl file too
12:42 bowtie you probably don't need that get_command, see Adams POD for Padre::DB or look at example in Cookbook-Recipie04
12:43 bowtie I like -> strange 'debug request' :)
12:43 SvenDowideit us users do the strangest things :)
12:44 SvenDowideit for eg, because of how the debugger works, I'm now starting to intentionally run a .pm file under the debugger, just to see what happens - and its pretty interesting how some .pm files to alot
12:45 bowtie in that case a yaml or JSON by be valid file types to -> strange 'debug request'
12:45 SvenDowideit ooo, yes, that is handy too
12:45 SvenDowideit as the user can have 3 cfg's or data files
12:45 SvenDowideit and set it to run the same script, but with different arguments
12:46 bowtie yes, I thought that was your other criteria besides .pm files
12:46 SvenDowideit and on subsequent non-option dialog debug runs, it just works
12:46 SvenDowideit it wasn't , but it sure is now
12:47 SvenDowideit as i do have that use case - i just didn't realise how cool it will be
12:47 SvenDowideit I wonder if i can demo this on the last day of OSDC in a lightening talk
12:48 bowtie it should not aper for .t files
12:48 SvenDowideit Padre debugging AnyData test data
12:48 SvenDowideit unless ;)
12:48 SvenDowideit one reason it might make sense, is that you can set perl and perl args
12:48 SvenDowideit so perlbrew might allow us to debug the same code with different perl's
12:49 bowtie when is OSDC
12:49 SvenDowideit but yes, thats why I think there's a need for both 'launch debug' and 'launch with options'
12:49 SvenDowideit next week :)
12:49 SvenDowideit Sydney - I've only been to one other - 2008 iirc, when Adam showed it off
12:50 SvenDowideit s/it/padre/
12:50 bowtie you don't run 'prove t/' with parameters or cpan test with parameters
12:50 SvenDowideit though i was lucky, as he'd already told me about it
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12:51 SvenDowideit but you can debug .t scripts, and might want to use perl=/usr/local/myperl/bin/perl
12:51 SvenDowideit tbh, i've been wondering about the separation of run & debug
12:51 SvenDowideit but I'm leaving that well alone for now
12:52 bowtie SvenDowideit, you are committed now, it only makes sense that you look at adding 'Launch' options to Run :)
12:53 SvenDowideit its worse than that :)
12:53 bowtie why?
12:53 SvenDowideit I'm wondering slowly if run and debug are not identical, just needing an extra tickbox 'debug' or 'trace'
12:54 SvenDowideit I'm really just going to ignore that until after my first commit of this debug stuff tho
12:55 bowtie you are aware that the event handler for debug-launch will go in Padre-wx-dialog
12:56 SvenDowideit yup - I have a P:w:d:debugOptions that derives from the FBP generated one
12:58 SvenDowideit I'm sure there will be things i've missed tho :)
12:58 SvenDowideit like - do i use perltidy with special params
12:58 SvenDowideit (i tend to just run defaults, as its good enough for me)
12:58 bowtie yes, I have been meaning to talk about that
12:58 SvenDowideit especially as my many editor choices always mess up tabs&spaces
12:59 bowtie If you use Padre-Plugin-Perltidy it will do the houes standard for you,
12:59 bowtie run Padre via perl dev
13:00 SvenDowideit oh, sweet
13:00 bowtie also make sure you have the full svn checkout
13:00 * SvenDowideit hasn't worked out how to get the Padre svn into git: git-svn complains bitterly
13:00 bowtie you need tools
13:01 SvenDowideit but y, i like using other people's example code :)
13:01 bowtie hold on
13:01 SvenDowideit ooo - didn't notice the tools dir
13:02 bowtie for padre git stuff, talk to mj41 -> https://github.com/mj41/Padre
13:04 bowtie so if you run pp-perltidy against Padre via perl dev and have tools it will use Padre perltidyrc
13:05 SvenDowideit excellent - i may have done that accidentally once, but probably not consistently
13:05 bowtie or you can just run the tidy script in tools, suggest you look inside as I think it trys to do whole dev zone
13:05 SvenDowideit y, its pretty monsterous
13:06 mj41 SvenDowideit: also https://github.com/mj41/padre-svn-git
13:06 SvenDowideit does that mean i won't be able to just use git svn ?
13:07 SvenDowideit i kinda wondered what was odd with the svn repo setup - git-svn really doesn't seem to like it much
13:07 SvenDowideit (I'm very accustomed to dcommit workflows etc)
13:08 bowtie mj41, hi
13:08 mj41 bowtie: hi
13:08 SvenDowideit oh my mj41 thats alot more magic than we use
13:09 * SvenDowideit adds to the towering stack of reading
13:10 bowtie mj41, after your kicking, I have updated the pp-git, please take a look http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wiki/PadrePluginGit
13:10 bowtie mj41, only works against trunk
13:13 SvenDowideit mmm, and after that loverly gift, time for me to sleep - nite all, and thanks
13:15 mj41 bowtie: ok, during weekend I hope :-)
13:15 bowtie mj41++
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17:55 botbot Welcome mib_yp82uf
17:55 mib_yp82uf Hello There. I am having issues in downloading the PAR::Packer. I am using cpan install PAR::Packer command..
17:56 mib_yp82uf It goes through various installation steps and fails for below at end
17:56 mib_yp82uf dmake:  Error code 129, while making 'ppresource.coff'
17:56 mib_yp82uf dmake.EXE:  Error code 255, while making 'subdirs'
17:56 mib_yp82uf I sincerely appreciate your help in guiding me here...thanks in advance
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17:58 botbot Welcome mib_ll6md8
18:29 mib_ll6md8 Hi there, just wondering if you can help me here. I am having issues with installation of PAR:acker
18:30 mib_ll6md8 Error code 129, while making 'ppresource.coff'
18:30 mib_ll6md8 dmake.EXE:  Error code 255, while making 'subdirs'
18:30 mib_ll6md8 I use install PAR:acker from CPAN
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19:49 nicolaas hi .. sorry i'm new to padre : my space key doesn't work in the editor. Any idea why ?!
21:22 bowtie nicolaas, what version of Padre and os please
22:19 nicolaas bowtie: hello, sorry, I was afk
22:20 bowtie ok
22:20 nicolaas i'm running padre 0.90 on Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
22:20 nicolaas Unity
22:21 bowtie ok, suggest you upgrade to Padre 0.96
22:21 nicolaas ok thanks
22:21 nicolaas how can I do that assuming I installed Padre from the Ubuntu Software center
22:21 nicolaas ?
22:22 bowtie http://packages.debian.org/sid/padre
22:23 nicolaas thanks i'll try to download and install it manually !
22:23 nicolaas seems to be a great piece of software by the way
22:23 bowtie nicolaas, dod is a debian packager, Padre 0.96 is one of his, don't forget that most ubuntu packages start off as debian ones
22:24 bowtie nicolaas, dod is GMT +1 or +2
22:25 nicolaas dod ?
22:25 bowtie you will see him here
22:26 bowtie just as your channel nickname is 'nicolaas' his is 'dod' ok
22:26 nicolaas oh ok !
22:33 nicolaas it requires some missing libraries ( libdebug-client-perl >0.16 )
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23:15 El_Che good night :)
23:16 bowtie El_Che, thanks

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