Camelia, the Perl 6 bug

IRC log for #padre, 2013-01-10

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12:17 levengli Hi
12:18 levengli I was here yesterday looking for a solution for installing Padre without the entire DWIM package
12:18 levengli eventually, I want to the Strawberry cpan prompt and wrote install Padre
12:18 levengli a few minutes later, it was ready to go
12:19 levengli I think that this should be listed as a possibility on the website
12:19 levengli Is anyone even here?
12:37 bowtie botbot, tell levengli that he can append this to our wiki page if he wants
12:37 botbot bowtie, I'll tell that levengli when we see each other.
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19:52 Bobs_Star Had a problem installing Padre on my new Windows  8 laptop.  Using Strawberry Perl I ran "CPAN Padre" which did the download, build, testing and (not quite install). The testing failed on a "Unknown Windows version [2:6:2] at C:/strawberry/perl/lib/Win32.pm line 530"
19:56 Bobs_Star Now I am very new at Perl, but have many years programming in various other languages, so I looked into those lines in Win32.pm and found that it does not (yet) handle a windows with a major version of 6 AND a minor version of 2, which is what my system seems to have.  Has any one else run into this, and / or has a work around.
20:01 Bobs_Star I am not sure if the "bug" would be considered to be in the Padre code or in the core Perl code.  Like I said, I am new to Perl and I don't want to upset any Perl gurus by claiming the "Perl is broken".  Mainly because it isn't.
20:03 Bobs_Star This looks like a case where MS has pulled out a new "minor version" number and the code hasn't caught up with it.    So, your thoughts?
20:07 Bobs_Star I am very impressed with the download, build, test, install process that CPAN runs.  But, it kept running into the Unknown Windows Version error during the testing problem, and finally gave up and quit without installing.
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20:10 rindolf Hi all.
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20:52 * Bobs_Star I Had a problem installing Padre on my new Windows 8 laptop. Using Strawberry Perl I ran "CPAN Padre" which did the download, build, testing and (not quite install). The testing failed on a "Unknown Windows version [2:6:2] at C: /strawberry/perl/lib/Win32.pm line 530"
20:53 * Bobs_Star Now I am very new at Perl, but have many years programming in various other languages, so I looked into those lines in Win32.pm and found that it does not (yet) handle a windows with a major version of 6 AND a minor version of 2, which is what my system seems to have. Has any one else run into this, and / or has a work around.
20:53 * Bobs_Star : I am not sure if the "bug" would be considered to be in the Padre code or in the core Perl code. Like I said, I am new to Perl and I don't want to upset any Perl gurus by claiming the "Perl is broken". Mainly because it isn't.
20:53 * Bobs_Star This looks like a case where MS has pulled out a new "minor version" number and the code hasn't caught up with it. So, your thoughts?
20:54 * Bobs_Star I am very impressed with the download, build, test, install process that CPAN runs. But, it kept running into the Unknown Windows Version error during the testing problem, and finally gave up and quit without installing.
20:54 El_Che Is that a very recent windows 8 build?
20:54 * Bobs_Star Thoughts? Recommendations? Whatever?
20:55 El_Che Bobs_Star: what perl version is that?
20:55 * Bobs_Star Yes, I beleve so.   New computer, fresh of the shelf at Christmas
20:55 El_Che perl -v
20:55 * Bobs_Star one moment...
20:56 * Bobs_Star Perl 5, version 16, subversion 32
20:57 * Bobs_Star whoops, subversion 2
20:57 El_Che that's *very* weird
20:57 El_Che ah ok
20:57 El_Che :)
20:57 El_Che that the latest perl
20:57 El_Che let me check HEAD
20:58 * Bobs_Star thanks!
21:00 El_Che you're right
21:00 El_Che from a fast and superficial look at the code on core handling that, there is no explicit 6.2
21:01 El_Che there is this if then tree:
21:01 El_Che 6
21:01 El_Che if $minor == 0
21:01 El_Che $minor == 2
21:02 El_Che then a long tree of specific Windows names (like " Enterprise Edition for Itanium-based Systems")
21:02 El_Che and then the output you get
21:02 El_Che so 6.2 hits indeed the unknown
21:04 El_Che the way to go, is to send a bugreport to add it (it looks pretty easy). I don't have windows here to do it for you, but if you have the time you can do the bugreport here: https://rt.perl.org/perlbug/
21:04 El_Che the file in question is:
21:04 El_Che cpan/Win32/Win3
21:04 El_Che 2.pm
21:05 * Bobs_Star Thanks!  I'll do that now.
21:05 El_Che row 445
21:05 El_Che line I mean
21:05 El_Che that where the tests for major == 6 start
21:06 El_Che feel free to contact me here if you need info
21:06 El_Che I am off and on here, but I can read the backlog if you mention my nick
21:07 El_Che (this shell is always connected)
21:09 * Bobs_Star Again, thank you.   Your help is very appreciated.   I will submit the bugreport.
21:09 shadowpaste "El_Che" at 217.168.150.38 pasted "perl-5.16.2/cpan/Win32/Win32.pm" (88 lines) at http://paste.scsys.co.uk/222906
21:09 El_Che that the file in question if you need it for your bugreport
21:10 El_Che http://paste.scsys.co.uk/22290​6?hl=on&submit=Format+it!
21:10 * Bobs_Star Thank you, that was something I would have had to figure out how to do too!    Now for me to start that bug report!
21:11 El_Che :)
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