Camelia, the Perl 6 bug

IRC log for #padre, 2013-03-19

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10:49 waxhead evening
10:49 bowtie waxhead, hi
10:49 waxhead hey Kevin
10:49 waxhead got your email...
10:50 bowtie hay Peter
10:50 waxhead so this issue is solved with a more recent Socket?
10:50 bowtie got yours to
10:50 waxhead I'm just concerned that Padre's name isn't so hot at the moment, any install issues will only raise questions more...
10:52 waxhead I'm just turning the XP machine back on to try upgrading the Socket module
10:52 bowtie yes you may need to install IO::Socket::IP first, you may need Socket 2.006 to achieve this
10:53 waxhead already tried IO::Socket::IP, it failed...
10:53 waxhead wasn't aware of Socket though.
10:53 waxhead that's what I'm going to try out now
10:53 waxhead is this only a win xp issue?
10:53 bowtie the issue is IO::Socket::IP is not developed on win32, the author works to cpan reports,
10:53 bowtie as do I
10:54 bowtie waxhead, chorny raised the initial issue, I fixed it with his help, this one is outside of us.
10:55 bowtie yes only some versions of win32, see Ahmad e-mail
10:55 waxhead bowtie, what does that mean?  We need to raise an RT ticket for the issue?
10:56 bowtie we tell people to install Socket 2.006 then IO::Socket::IP then Padre
10:56 bowtie simple for those who do
10:57 bowtie waxhead, other wise we wait until Paul fixes IO::Socket::IP & Socket on all win32 versions
10:58 waxhead How do I install Socket 2.006?
10:59 waxhead I just did an upgrade Socket and it tells me it's at the latest...
10:59 bowtie hold on
10:59 waxhead IO::Sockect::IP won't install still
10:59 waxhead this is ugly....
10:59 waxhead I know XP is an out of date OS, but it potentially means putting a lot of people off
10:59 bowtie cpanm -v http://cpan.metacpan.org/authors/i​d/P/PE/PEVANS/Socket-2.006.tar.gz
11:00 waxhead ugh...
11:00 waxhead I don't use cpanm
11:00 bowtie ok
11:00 bowtie cpan http://cpan.metacpan.org/authors/i​d/P/PE/PEVANS/Socket-2.006.tar.gz
11:00 waxhead lol...
11:00 waxhead :)
11:00 waxhead really?
11:00 bowtie yes
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11:03 _waxhead what was that command line again bowtie?
11:03 bowtie cpan http://cpan.metacpan.org/authors/i​d/P/PE/PEVANS/Socket-2.006.tar.gz
11:04 bowtie wax you are a two headed monster now
11:04 _waxhead yeah sorry...
11:04 _waxhead on the xp box
11:04 bowtie is fun
11:04 _waxhead that didn't work either
11:04 bowtie did it install
11:05 bowtie try cpan PEVANS/Socket-2.006.tar.gz
11:05 _waxhead sorted
11:05 _waxhead oh..
11:06 El_Che_ you'll grab XP from my cold dead hands
11:06 El_Che_ in a VM in Linux though :)
11:06 _waxhead El_Che_,  :)
11:06 bowtie El_Che_, hi
11:06 _waxhead I've been meaning to setup XP in a VM...
11:06 El_Che_ hi bowtie, _waxhead
11:06 _waxhead just never do
11:06 _waxhead hey El_Che_
11:06 botbot Welcome El_Che
11:07 _waxhead how the heck do I do a cpan install with a local file???
11:07 _waxhead dir
11:07 bowtie El_Che, thats better
11:07 El_Che _waxhead: I guess you don't like cpanm?
11:07 El_Che _waxhead: you old git :)
11:07 _waxhead nah.. it's not that.. just didn't want to install anything else
11:08 El_Che _waxhead: perl Makefile.PL; make; make test; make install ?
11:08 bowtie thats a bit mean hes younger than me I think
11:08 _waxhead 43
11:08 _waxhead 44 in june
11:08 _waxhead old
11:08 El_Che bowtie: you have the sould of a 14-old girl :)
11:08 _waxhead :)
11:08 El_Che -)d
11:08 bowtie 50+
11:09 El_Che I am approaching 38
11:09 El_Che fast
11:09 El_Che :)
11:09 _waxhead hmmm...
11:09 El_Che this month
11:09 bowtie El_Che, you are just a baby :)
11:09 _waxhead I guess I can't do a cpan -r Socket-2.006.tar.gz
11:10 El_Che well, you should see me at uni with really young people
11:10 El_Che I could be their sugar daddy! :)
11:10 daxim cpan PEVANS/Socket-2.009.tar.gz
11:10 _waxhead ok.. time to google cpanm install
11:10 El_Che didn't the new cpan allow local installs?
11:10 daxim cpan has that functionality since forever
11:10 El_Che I read the author (brian d foy?) added a lot of functionality to it
11:10 daxim cpanm had that functionality since its beginning
11:11 bowtie daxim, hi
11:11 El_Che daxim: yes, cpan is getting pretty good
11:11 El_Che I think what was annoying was the original setup
11:13 daxim ah, _waxhead was asking about a local install
11:13 _waxhead got it..
11:13 _waxhead cpan -i Socket
11:13 daxim that's: 1. unpack the archive  2. chdir
11:13 _waxhead however Socket is at 2.009
11:13 daxim 3. `cpan .`
11:13 _waxhead daxim, right
11:14 daxim next time ask in #toolchain
11:14 _waxhead so with Socket, do I have to downgrade it bowtie ?
11:14 daxim that's the appropriate channel for this kind of stuff
11:14 _waxhead daxim, true..
11:14 _waxhead google works too..
11:14 _waxhead shoud have done that first..
11:15 _waxhead it's also getting late here and I'm tired... I don't want to spend too much time on this right now
11:16 bowtie _waxhead, yes
11:18 _waxhead OK, so cpan is too helpful here...
11:18 _waxhead it's installed 009 again...
11:20 _waxhead sigh.. I hate windows...
11:20 _waxhead can't untar the file.. .
11:20 _waxhead thought I had that stuff installed
11:23 bowtie waxhead, what is a 'winxs/Makefile.PL' and how is it used
11:23 _waxhead bowtie,
11:23 _waxhead whooops
11:23 _waxhead no idea
11:24 _waxhead azawawi would know
11:24 _waxhead I think he may have don eit
11:24 bowtie me either, I thought as you are win32 bod you might know
11:24 _waxhead nope..
11:24 _waxhead I'm only using win32 to test the install of Padre on
11:25 bowtie we need to ask adamk then
11:25 _waxhead or ahmed
11:25 bowtie yes
11:25 _waxhead OK, 2.006 installed
11:27 _waxhead tests are passing for Debug::Client
11:27 bowtie cool
11:28 _waxhead So that's going to have to be well communicated..
11:28 _waxhead for windows users
11:28 _waxhead pip-ing Padre now...
11:29 _waxhead I gather it's not a problem for linux users?
11:29 _waxhead later OS users who have IPv6?
11:29 bowtie waxhead, but not all win32 will need to do that, as cpan testers shows
11:29 El_Che so, windows users need an older module? can we include in the release?
11:29 El_Che inc or something?
11:30 _waxhead El_Che, only so.. I'm guessing those who don't have IPv6 support... since that was one of the tests that failed
11:30 bowtie El_Che, I have never done that before, how is it done please
11:30 _waxhead actually it's not just ipv6
11:30 _waxhead it's some macro
11:30 El_Che let me look if I have it in some code
11:31 _waxhead that's also something annoying.. I thought I had the cpan reporter set up..
11:31 _waxhead oh.. I did...
11:31 _waxhead must remember to reset it when I install clean..
11:31 El_Che I see Module::Install ships itself often in inc
11:32 bowtie always it's one of its features
11:32 botbot Welcome waxhead
11:33 El_Che So I wonder if temporary the windows module can be put there instead of a temporary fork in lib
11:49 waxhead and I have a running Padre 0.98 on XP
11:49 bowtie waxhead++
11:50 bowtie and the knowledge, to boot
11:50 waxhead OK, so noting the issue wiht some windows systems with the version of Socket... we could roll out Padre 0.98
11:50 waxhead it's only windows?
11:50 waxhead anyone got a vm they want to try installing Padre-0.98 into?
11:51 bowtie waxhead, I install trunk on 5.16.3, ok the other day as well ( ubuntu 12.04)
11:52 waxhead OK...
11:52 waxhead I just like people installing the .tar.gz
11:52 waxhead Fine then... I'll work on getting 0.98 tagged and bagged.
11:52 bowtie waxhead++
11:53 waxhead not tonight though.. sorry everyone... it's 11pm here and I'm tired already...
11:53 waxhead nothing on tomorrow, so I'll do it then
11:53 waxhead lets just hope there's no issues with Pause...
11:53 waxhead that thing does my head in when it breaks...
11:53 bowtie waxhead, see you tomorrow morning then
11:53 waxhead sure.. :)
11:54 waxhead after dinner here.
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20:11 dtallard Padre starts and will load a file but as soon as I hit any key it quits. Any clues?
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