Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #padre, 2014-08-31

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13:14 bowtie kaare: ping
13:17 bowtie kaare: author concerns -> waxhead, daxim and tome
13:18 bowtie the rest of your hacks look ok :)
13:18 bowtie plus claudio
13:19 bowtie that's 4 to deal with, check
13:20 bowtie the other incomplete names do not ring any bells with me :)
13:38 kaare bowtie: I saw you tried to pin waxhead. How about the others? Any idea how to find them?
13:38 kaare ping
13:58 bowtie kaare: i think we will have to use e-mail
14:00 bowtie kaare: is there a padre-plugin we can use to check daxim, it's the 迪拉斯  we need to check
14:13 bowtie kaare: & gardening back by 18:00 GMT+1
14:29 El_Che hi
14:53 El_Che ping bowtie kaare
15:11 kaare El_Che: Hi
15:14 El_Che my secret identity :)
15:23 El_Che now I have to kill kaare and bowtie :)
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15:24 kaare El_Che: You're Claudio?
15:24 * kaare tries to get the word out before it's too late...
15:33 El_Che some call me flavio :)
15:42 bowtie hi
15:44 bowtie El_Che: see authors in e-mail
15:57 bowtie El_Che: dose this mean we can combine -> claudio = nxadm <nxadm@cpan.org>
16:00 bowtie kaare: with all the e-mails are we now complete ?
16:12 kaare According to your definition of important people, I guess only waxhead is missing.
16:13 bowtie kaare: please correct me, I have sent El_Che a copy of your last update of Authors
16:14 bowtie El_Che: any one else we need to badger via e-mail
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17:21 El_Che hi
17:22 El_Che my github account is linked to pub.claudio@gmail.com
17:32 bowtie El_Che: ok, so it should be -> claudio = nxadm <pub.claudio@gmail.com>
17:32 bowtie then :)
17:33 bowtie El_Che: are there any other names in the Authors we need to correct?
17:48 El_Che having a look
17:54 El_Che so, are we matching github profiles or looking for email adresses? grepping on "-v @"
17:56 bowtie El_Che: the original authors in un-padre was just a list of name extracted from svn
17:57 bowtie I wrote a script to extract names from svn -> pause -> github
17:57 bowtie but it had error, found by kaare dur to use of pause e-mail
17:59 bowtie kaare modified authors list is almost there now, I have been holding back until a few more name have been corrected
17:59 bowtie i think we must fix waxhead
17:59 bowtie even though adam want's us to just proceed :(
18:00 bowtie as I don't think we can retrospectively correct down the line :(
18:01 bowtie we really could do with all authors checking there ref in authors in a dream world :)
18:02 bowtie El_Che: github api will not expose e-mail and is limited to 60 transactions before timing out :(
18:08 El_Che ah ok
18:08 bowtie El_Che: any obvious names that need correcting you can spot ?
18:09 El_Che no, I was looking through my mail for the people without email in the list
18:09 bowtie El_Che: if you look at the commits for some of the plugins you will notice the missing links :(
18:10 bowtie El_Che: some of them will need to be prompted to create a github account
18:11 El_Che I don't think that will be a problem
18:12 bowtie El_Che: do you want to add the outstanding names here, for kaare
18:12 El_Che you mean copy paste who doesn't have an email in the list?
18:13 bowtie do we think all padre hackers are important people ?
18:13 bowtie El_Che: some of the names I have never even talked to or seen on #padre
18:14 El_Che that's open source
18:14 El_Che people following padre may catch the change through the mailing list
18:14 El_Che and after the migration, we start tweeting/blogging about it
18:14 bowtie I think it would be nice (open-source) if we could include everyone
18:15 El_Che do you blog/ask around before the migration?
18:15 bowtie El_Che: I do not know if we can retrospectively correct a github nickname link
18:17 bowtie El_Che: kaare and /me have been have a chat on padre-dev for a couple of weeks now
18:17 El_Che bowtie: it does work
18:17 El_Che according to their fac
18:17 El_Che faq
18:17 El_Che https://help.github.com/articles/changing-author-info
18:17 bowtie \me
18:18 * bowtie /me
18:18 bowtie stupid irc can not use /me in text :((
18:19 El_Che the thing is that probably we'll need a extra email adress per unknow user
18:19 El_Che or maybe not
18:21 bowtie El_Che: thanks for showing us the light, do we really want to have to do that though
18:21 El_Che address on a domain we own to make sure no one impersonates the person
18:22 bowtie That's why I think we should try to correct the list before hand
18:22 El_Che we can use <svn_username>-padre_git_migration@apt-get.be
18:22 El_Che the aliases are not needed
18:22 bowtie but I do agree with adam and kaare that we do need a cut off point
18:22 El_Che just to be sure they are not created at it could on gmail
18:23 El_Che <svn_username>-please-claim-padre-migration@apt-get.be
18:23 El_Che something like that
18:23 bowtie El_Che: you would have to use a nickname that dose not exists on github
18:24 bowtie i am kevindawson on github as there is already a bowtie
18:24 bowtie hence why it should be sorted before hand
18:24 El_Che if I understand the doc, there is no nickname
18:24 El_Che only email
18:25 El_Che besides the link above: https://help.github.com/articles/why-are-my-commits-linked-to-the-wrong-user
18:25 El_Che there is never mention of a github user
18:25 El_Che That's why we could reserver the commit addresses
18:26 El_Che must the user exist on github for those unknown commits?
18:26 bowtie cool, I did not know ^^
18:26 El_Che my guess is not
18:26 bowtie kaare: ?
18:27 El_Che thing is, with a normal clone,commit,push whatever, you need a valid account
18:27 El_Che but we're importing stuff
18:28 bowtie yes, and some of the early hackers might not have a github account, or there pause e-mail is different to there github e-mail address
18:29 El_Che yes, that I get
18:29 El_Che but in the process of importing, how will they appear?
18:29 El_Che if their email address is shown => no prob
18:29 El_Che they create the github account and link the address
18:30 El_Che automatic blame
18:30 El_Che is they don't it will not link to a user profile
18:30 El_Che because email is unique, their commit will not go to someone else
18:30 bowtie see -> https://github.com/PadreIDE/Wx-Scintilla/commits/master look for mark
18:31 El_Che if the above is true, I propose we add an email as proposed aboved to those users without email info
18:31 El_Che when they show up, they give us their github account and we run the script from the first url
18:32 bowtie El_Che: for those users that we know an e-mail address can we not use that in the first instance and your hack for all others
18:39 El_Che the svn links to padre svn are broken
18:39 El_Che no @version support there
18:42 El_Che doing a clone of that repo to have a look at the meta data
18:42 El_Che no useful info in the weblcient
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18:45 bowtie El_Che: kaare take a look at -> https://github.com/PadreIDE/Authors
18:45 bowtie now we can hack as we go :)
18:46 El_Che oh joy!
18:46 El_Che markd emails is in the git repo
18:47 El_Che claudio@bologna:~/Code/PadreTest/Wx-Scintilla$ git blame -e  inc/Module/Build/Scintilla.pm |grep mark |head -n1
18:47 El_Che 5798c805 inc/Module/Build/Scintilla.pm   (<mark-daglish@blueyonder.co.uk> 2011-11-22 02:31:28 +0000 133)
18:47 El_Che so the mail is kept
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18:47 El_Che so my theory is valid so far
18:48 bowtie El_Che: so we just need to add some e-mail to the blanks
18:49 El_Che I am cloning padre to see if I can grep the blanks
18:53 * El_Che feeling optimistic :)
18:53 El_Che ls
19:11 El_Che we should just ask for an email adres to peter(waxhead)
19:11 El_Che I don't find him on github
19:13 bowtie El_Che: hold on a mo
19:15 bowtie see -> https://github.com/PadreIDE/Authors
19:20 El_Che bowtie: so you prefer we ask for the remaining names? ironman, twitter, etc?
19:29 El_Che if no reaction, change the svn setting to put the personalized fake email
19:31 kaare bowtie: omg you've been hard @ work!
19:33 El_Che kaare: you haven't done that bad either :);)
19:36 kaare El_Che: I've learned a lot about github's  API. So I've had fun
19:46 bowtie hi all, it just made sense to make the authors public in github so we can all work to the same file
19:46 bowtie kaare: can you add your current mods please
20:00 kaare bowtie: I think you have them all, AFAICT. You even have waxhead
20:01 kaare But I've had a long day and need rest now.  Let's see tomorrow.
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