Camelia, the Perl 6 bug

IRC log for #parrot, 2008-04-30

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01:17 Limbic_Region Is the build known to be broke on Win32/Cygwin?
01:18 Limbic_Region I did a realclean;svn up;perl Configure.PL;make earlier tonight and it failed to build - confirming it is still broke now
01:18 Limbic_Region don't want to waste a lot of time if this is known breakage
01:24 Infinoid I don't know.  I know mingw builds work
01:25 wknight8111 i'm trying msvc right now
01:26 Infinoid wknight8111: you have msvc!  can I use you as a guinea pig?
01:26 wknight8111 yes, please
01:26 wknight8111 i find i'm often playing the part of small furry rodent
01:27 Infinoid great.  first question: if you save http://nopaste.snit.ch/12862 to a file named sleep.pir and run it, does it say "ok" immediately or does it wait a second?
01:27 wknight8111 i'm building now, i'll let you know as soon as that works (if it works)
01:28 tetragon Infinoid: Checking the behaviour of your three alarm test changes?
01:28 wknight8111 it usually takes a few minutes on my ghetto computer
01:29 Infinoid tetragon: actually, checking into a bug on mingw in which the "sleep" op is actually a noop
01:29 Infinoid I want to know if its mingw-specific
01:29 Infinoid tetragon: t/dynoplibs/myops.t test 6 is next on the list tho...
01:29 tetragon Infinoid: It's myops.t 3 that keeps crashing on my box
01:30 Infinoid % ./parrot t/dynoplibs/myops_3.pir
01:30 Infinoid neither here
01:30 Infinoid zsh: segmentation fault  ./parrot t/dynoplibs/myops_3.pir
01:30 Infinoid like that? :)
01:31 wknight8111 infinoid, in sleep.pir should it be ".sub main :main" or just ".sub main"?
01:31 Infinoid I don't think it matters, ".sub main" works fine for me
01:31 Infinoid but I'm also not very good at PIR.
01:31 tetragon Infinoid: And as for the backtrace codingstd.t failures, I still haven't gotten around to assembling a vim config for parrot's style and I sometimes miss the indents.
01:31 wknight8111 i'll play with it
01:32 Infinoid tetragon: are the hints we put into source code footers of any use, for that?
01:32 Infinoid wknight8111: thanks
01:32 tetragon Infinoid: Many vim installs ignore those
01:33 tetragon Infinoid: In fact, I can't think of any of those I worked with that use them
01:33 Infinoid well I never.  And after all the trouble we went through to make up a codingstd and barf when the tag isn't there, too.
01:33 Infinoid :)
01:33 Infinoid I bet its disabled by default for security reasons
01:33 tetragon Yep
01:34 tetragon And I don't think any two of the projects I deal with share standards, excluding the ones that noone else has ever touched.
01:35 Limbic_Region ok, confirmed breakage
01:35 Limbic_Region though Win32/MinGW is still working as mentioned earlier
01:35 Limbic_Region getting ready to nopaste
01:36 Infinoid at least parrot is nice enough to inform you when you've gotten it wrong :)
01:36 Infinoid (codingstd tests)++
01:37 nopaste "Limbic_Region" at 68.49.236.220 pasted "Win32/Cygwin breakage with r27243 - output of make realclean;svn up;perl Configure.PL;make" (996 lines) at http://nopaste.snit.ch/12863
01:38 Infinoid woohoo, did we break PARROT_API again?
01:39 wknight8111 infinoid, sleep.pir works perfectly on msvc
01:41 Infinoid so it sleeps for a second, as expected?
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01:42 Infinoid wknight8111: thanks.  so when you run http://nopaste.snit.ch/12858 , is the output you get all funktified like mine is?
01:43 Infinoid (yes, that's a technical term.)
01:45 wknight8111 my output is almost exactly what yours is (except i ran it at a different time)
01:45 Coke :main is only required if you have more than one .sub in the file.
01:45 Coke ... and you don't want to run the first one.
01:45 Infinoid wknight8111: soo... your three numbers aren't anywhere near eachother?
01:45 wknight8111 now we know, and knowing is half the battle
01:45 wknight8111 no, the three numbers aren't anywhere near each other
01:45 Infinoid for comparison, on linux, I get:
01:45 Infinoid 1209519949
01:46 Infinoid 1209519949.066321
01:46 Infinoid 1209519949
01:46 Infinoid ok, so I need to fix Parrot_floatval_time() for msvc as well as for mingw
01:46 Infinoid thanks!
01:46 wknight8111 1209519873, 12853993473.285999, -30908415
01:47 Infinoid wow, your numbers are even more funktified than mine!
01:47 Infinoid (at least mine had the decency to print 0xffffffff for the third one)
01:47 wknight8111 no, they're in the same ballpark
01:47 Infinoid thanks
01:54 Infinoid woohoo, my parrotbugs are getting through again
01:55 tetragon Infinoid: In a case of because I can, I'll run the numbers on OS X 10.5, both idle and while running "make perl6"
01:57 tetragon Idle is just as boring as the Linux numbers
01:58 wknight8111 i'm out. goodnight
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02:00 tetragon The most interesting thing I'm seeing is the activity monitor occasionally displaying '-0.00' as the idle cpu percentage
02:11 Infinoid nice.  can win32 borrow your extra negative zero?  they are somewhat lacking in that area
02:17 tetragon Sure
02:17 tetragon I don't need the negative idle from a G4
02:18 tetragon And I have also found that parrot builds without readline just fine on OS X 10.5 (with patch to auto::readline to stop editline from tricking it)
02:18 Coke seen Andy?
02:18 purl Andy was last seen on #perl 1 day and 11 hours ago, saying: http://twitter.com/perlbuzz  [Apr 28 08:10:28 2008]
02:46 dalek r27244 | coke++ | pdd25cx:
02:46 dalek : [tcl]
02:46 dalek : exception cleanup: Don't access the message via slot 0, just set the string value.
02:46 dalek diff: http://www.parrotvm.org/svn​/parrot/revision?rev=27244
02:50 dalek will@coleda.com | Concurrency Tasks:
02:50 dalek link: http://www.perlfoundation.org/pa​rrot/index.cgi?concurrency_tasks
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05:52 dalek r27245 | chromatic++ | trunk:
05:52 dalek : [t] Added more file-related tests to the smartlinks tests (RT #53546, RT
05:52 dalek : #46785, Chris Dolan).
05:52 dalek diff: http://www.parrotvm.org/svn​/parrot/revision?rev=27245
05:54 dalek r27246 | chromatic++ | trunk:
05:54 dalek : [dynpmc] Made Final() METHOD return actually void (Andy Dougherty, RT #53544).
05:54 dalek diff: http://www.parrotvm.org/svn​/parrot/revision?rev=27246
06:00 dalek r27247 | chromatic++ | trunk:
06:00 dalek : [dynpmc] Made dynpmc.pl report compilation failures as failures (Andy
06:00 dalek : Dougherty, RT #53542).
06:00 dalek diff: http://www.parrotvm.org/svn​/parrot/revision?rev=27247
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06:09 dalek r27248 | chromatic++ | trunk:
06:09 dalek : [JIT] Fixed ARM and PPC JIT builds (Victor Brunsden, RT #53472).
06:09 dalek diff: http://www.parrotvm.org/svn​/parrot/revision?rev=27248
06:10 * rillianbis wonders just how many  bots are in this channel
06:11 PerlJam Just the right amount
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06:31 * Patterner sings "Wir sind die Roboter..."
06:33 dalek r27249 | chromatic++ | trunk:
06:33 dalek : [src] Minor cleanups.  Keys are not my favorite part of Parrot.
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06:33 dalek diff: http://www.parrotvm.org/svn​/parrot/revision?rev=27249
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06:57 rillianbis hi allison
06:58 rillianbis I'm Ralph Giles, I asked you about postscript at lugradio a couple of weeks ago
07:00 dalek r27250 | chromatic++ | trunk:
07:00 dalek : [docs] Updated Cygwin README (Reini Urban, RT #52870).
07:00 dalek diff: http://www.parrotvm.org/svn​/parrot/revision?rev=27250
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09:56 * ruoso wonders if Piper could be changed so that it don't keep reminding me *every day* that this channel is logged...
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10:50 spinclad ruoso: sure, by remembering who it's reminded.  as it is it reminds the channel when it enters, and everyone when they enter, statelessly.  Robrt has been thinking of publishing the sources; perhaps he would take a patch?
10:51 spinclad (thinking of publishing) or he may have already, i've lost track
10:51 ruoso spinclad, once the code is public, I'd be glad to take a look and see if I could do that...
10:51 * ruoso just can't take that remind everyday...
10:51 ruoso specially because XChat opens it in a query window
10:51 ruoso and keeps flashing the notification icon
10:51 spinclad ouch
10:52 spinclad that's painful for sure
10:53 spinclad purl, Robrt?
10:53 purl i guess Robrt is so swiss cheesed right now or  High Poobah or the Dragon Slayer or the bugmeister   or known as Robert the White, or often Robert the very pale or red bull. he gives girls wings. or WPWQ633 or an aspartame junkie. or recruiting for Google. or repressed BOFH  or
10:54 spinclad he's usually on irc.perl.org:#perl
10:57 ambs purl, seen robrt
10:57 purl robrt was last seen on #p5p 13 days and 8 hours ago, saying: xdg:  Exactly.  Thats what someone was complaining about  [Apr 16 19:53:27 2008]
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12:13 dalek r27251 | pmichaud++ | trunk:
12:13 dalek : [rakudo]:
12:13 dalek : * More ROADMAP updates.
12:13 dalek diff: http://www.parrotvm.org/svn​/parrot/revision?rev=27251
12:21 Coke piper source?
12:22 Coke piper's source?
12:22 purl piper's source is https://svn.develooper.com/projects/logbot/logbot
12:22 Coke piper source is :piper's source
12:23 Coke whoops. I left top running on feather all night.
12:29 Juerd Heh. That was problematic on the old feather. The new one can handle it
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12:42 Coke ../../parrot tcl.pbc
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13:08 spinclad Coke, thank you
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13:16 dalek r27252 | allison++ | pdd25cx:
13:16 dalek : [pdd25cx] Bringing the pdd25cx branch up-to-date with trunk r27251.
13:16 dalek diff: http://www.parrotvm.org/svn​/parrot/revision?rev=27252
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13:41 Coke allison: ping.
14:00 allison hi
14:01 Coke allison: question on the concurrency tasks: should those all read "delete" instead of "deprecate", as far as the branch is concerned?
14:01 Coke (we can deprecate them in trunk pending rolling the branch back in.)
14:01 allison coke: yes
14:02 allison coke: they say "deprecate" so we make sure and mention them in DEPRECATED.pod in the May release
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14:02 allison (planning to merge the branch back in right after the May release)
14:12 dalek will@coleda.com | Concurrency Tasks:
14:12 dalek link: http://www.perlfoundation.org/pa​rrot/index.cgi?concurrency_tasks
14:12 shorten dalek's url is at http://xrl.us/bjqpy
14:12 Coke Danke. clarified the task page slightly in case someone other than you or chromatic take one of the tasks.
14:13 Coke I did a small fixup on tcl, but noticed that I'm getting Panic: out of memory errors when running tcl's tests.
14:14 allison odd, the concurrency branch hasn't significantly changed memory usage
14:15 Coke I thought so too.
14:16 Coke lemme try again after your recent merge.
14:20 Coke doesn't help.
14:20 Coke only odd thing tcl is doing except wise is using [9] to hold a value, which I know is on the chopping block.
14:20 Coke I should convert it to using the new CONTROL_ exception types.
14:21 davidfetter is CONTROL_ controlled by its need to control?
14:21 Coke (going to need to abstract my system a bit, since TCL_BREAK is usable from the HLL as an integer, which now won't match since I'm in someone else's enum.
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14:27 dalek r27253 | infinoid++ | pdd13pbc:
14:27 dalek : [merge] Merge changes from trunk (-r27196:27252) into pdd13pbc branch.
14:27 dalek diff: http://www.parrotvm.org/svn​/parrot/revision?rev=27253
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16:22 NotFound Hello.
16:22 Infinoid good $timeofday
16:22 Coke niihao, NotFound.
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17:10 NotFound How can I test mul<Integer, Complex> ?
17:26 particle $P0 = new Complex ; $P0 = "3 + 2i" ; ...
17:27 particle see t/pmc/complex.t for examples
17:28 NotFound Thanks, I reverted the Complex,Integer in t/pmc/complex.t and seems to work.
17:29 NotFound Will be better to put it in integer.t ?
17:30 * paco installing solaris 10 in a netra t1 (sparc)  for parrot testing :)
17:30 particle paco++
17:32 jonathan Hmmm, MANIFEST fails.
17:32 particle what does svn st report?
17:33 NotFound I'm trying a simple implementation for RT#46629, just by invoking mul<Complex, Integer>
17:34 Tene $P0 = new 'particle; $P0++;
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17:37 jonathan Tene: Syntax error: missing '
17:37 jonathan ;-)
17:38 Tene :)
17:39 jonathan particle: reports "!      languages\eclectus\driver_nqp.pir"
17:40 * jonathan likes the look of the Rakudo milestones.
17:41 jonathan pmichaud++
17:41 particle jonathan: try svn reverting that file, or maybe svn up should clear up the issue
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17:44 jonathan particle: Hmmm, yes,, odd...I'd only just svn up'd before I got that error.
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17:59 Coke manifest test, or configure? you can always config with --nomanicheck to get ast that.
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18:16 jonathan Coke: configure, but it's working now :-)
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18:30 Coke Infinoid++
18:33 Infinoid oh YEAH?  Take this!
18:33 Infinoid Coke++
18:34 Coke You bastard!
18:34 Infinoid And when I increment you, you STAY incremented.
18:34 Coke mmmheheh.
18:35 ambs purl, karma coke
18:35 purl coke has karma of 1879
18:35 ambs purl, karma cininoid
18:35 purl cininoid has neutral karma
18:35 ambs purl, karma infinoi
18:35 purl infinoi has neutral karma
18:35 ambs purl, karma infinoid
18:35 purl infinoid has karma of 160
18:35 ambs (argh)
18:35 * Coke SMACKS ambs
18:35 ambs infinoid++
18:35 ambs I like odd karmas
18:35 Infinoid heh, thanks
18:36 Coke karma ambs
18:36 purl ambs has karma of 265
18:36 ambs see? odd :D
18:36 Coke ambs-- # hah!
18:36 ambs Coke, again, please :)
18:36 Coke no, you're stuck! hah!
18:37 ambs Coke, you are forcing me to do a commit on parrot? :)
18:37 Coke yes!
18:37 Coke and now that I know what your kryptonite is, I will continue to do so!
18:37 ambs lol
18:38 cotto_work poor guy
18:38 purl poor guy is writing the whole thing in perl with CGI.pm
18:38 cotto_work cininoid++
18:39 Infinoid karma should use fuzzy matching
18:39 purl should use fuzzy matching has neutral karma
18:39 Coke ambs++
18:39 Coke ambs++
18:40 * ambs runs make test
18:40 ambs Coke, thanks :)
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18:41 ambs argh, twice?
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18:44 Coke well, I thought the bad karma was unfair, so I gave it back, but still inflicted the even penalty. =-)
18:45 particle she's one bad mother, karma.
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18:49 jonathan Hmm, one issue in the roadmap. Fully doing junctions depends on MMD...
18:51 ambs is there any idea of how to solve t/examples/library.t test three under MacOS?
19:03 ambs btw, shouldn't pcre be detected by the configure script?
19:04 dalek r27254 | allison++ | trunk:
19:04 dalek : [debian] Update debian packaging guide with instructions on uploading to Alioth.
19:04 dalek diff: http://www.parrotvm.org/svn​/parrot/revision?rev=27254
19:13 * ambs is completly lost :)
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19:19 dalek r27255 | allison++ | trunk:
19:19 dalek : [cage] Delete random extra characters after particle's name.
19:19 dalek diff: http://www.parrotvm.org/svn​/parrot/revision?rev=27255
19:19 ambs dinner
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19:30 dalek r27256 | chromatic++ | pdd25cx:
19:30 dalek : [PMC] Removed a memory leak from Exception PMC.
19:30 dalek : Removed ResizablePMCArray parent from Exception PMC.
19:30 dalek diff: http://www.parrotvm.org/svn​/parrot/revision?rev=27256
19:37 dalek will@coleda.com | Concurrency Tasks:
19:37 dalek link: http://www.perlfoundation.org/pa​rrot/index.cgi?concurrency_tasks
19:37 shorten dalek's url is at http://xrl.us/bjqpy
19:38 dalek will@coleda.com | Concurrency Tasks:
19:38 dalek link: http://www.perlfoundation.org/pa​rrot/index.cgi?concurrency_tasks
19:38 shorten dalek's url is at http://xrl.us/bjqpy
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19:41 ambs bacj
19:41 ambs ^Hk
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19:58 ambs does anybody tried to debug examples/library/pcre.pir under mac?
19:59 pmichaud jonathan: (roadmap/mmd)  does it depend on Perl 6 MMD, or just MMD in Parrot ?
20:01 TimToady phone
20:02 jonathan pmichaud: It depends on us being able to make Any the default parameter type for MMD rather than just put an all-accepting _.
20:02 pmichaud jonathan: I think we can do that.
20:02 jonathan That isn't related directly to getting Perl 6 MMD done, but there's crossover in what's required, I expect.
20:02 Coke that sound sreasonable, dah.
20:02 jonathan Well, I haven't tried it yet.
20:03 jonathan I might do tomorrow, since it takes all of five minutes to do the change and run the tests.
20:03 pmichaud sounds good.
20:03 purl speakers so loud they blow women's clothing off!
20:04 pmichaud Despite what I said earlier this week, I might not be available much tomorrow either.  (medical stuff)
20:04 jonathan Ah, OK.
20:04 jonathan I'm sure I'll find plenty to get on with.
20:04 pmichaud but it's definitely more likely for me to be around tomorrow than Fri
20:04 jonathan OK.
20:04 jonathan Once I've moved appartment, we can maybe settle it on whatever day of the week works for both of us.
20:04 pmichaud my schedule is always weird
20:04 jonathan For me it's going to be a bit varied which day of the week it is for the next 2-3 weeks.
20:05 pmichaud I never know when dr. appts will end up being
20:05 jonathan OK, we take it as it comes.
20:05 pmichaud yes
20:07 jonathan Do you have any objects to me trying to get use pir:Module::Name; style stuff basically working at some level? At least two people have asked me for it.
20:07 jonathan s/objects/objections/
20:07 Coke hurm. the integer value of an exception is the severity, not the code?
20:08 Coke er, s/code/type/
20:25 ambs how do I add one step to configure?
20:25 ambs I mean, after creating the .pm
20:25 ambs how do I force it to be run?
20:28 ambs found
20:34 * ambs pokes coke or particle.
20:39 Coke OW
20:40 ambs Coke, I created a step do detect pcre, and it seems to be working. now the question is: is it relevant and I should commit it?
20:41 particle there used to be a step to do that. is it not there any more?
20:41 ambs particle, none named pcre, at least
20:41 pmichaud I thought it already existed also.
20:41 particle wth?
20:41 purl wth is WhatTheHack and happens 28th july 2005 in .nl
20:42 ambs a find under config for pcre files, just finds mines
20:42 * particle wonders if runtime/parrot/library/pcre.pbc runs
20:42 ambs not under mac, I can tell
20:43 ambs and that's why I am digging into this
20:43 ambs is MANIFEST edited manually?
20:43 particle perl tools/*/mk_manifest_and_skip.pl
20:44 ambs thanks
20:44 * ambs adds the step and prays
20:49 dalek r27257 | ambs++ | trunk:
20:49 dalek : Added configure step to detect pcre.
20:49 dalek : (result of the test ignored for now, I think)
20:49 dalek diff: http://www.parrotvm.org/svn​/parrot/revision?rev=27257
20:58 * Coke smacks ambs for committing commented out code.
20:59 Coke ambs++ #otherwise.
20:59 Coke karma ambs?
20:59 ambs Coke, huh? it was copy & paste :)
20:59 purl ambs has karma of 268
20:59 Coke ambs++ # odd.
20:59 Coke ambs: ok, I will smack lots of people, then.
20:59 Coke is it me or is ".macro_local" not tested?
21:00 dalek r27258 | ambs++ | trunk:
21:00 dalek : Configure step for pcre detects version (might be handy)
21:00 dalek : First test for the pcre configure step.
21:00 dalek diff: http://www.parrotvm.org/svn​/parrot/revision?rev=27258
21:01 nopaste "chromatic" at 69.71.189.252 pasted "Coke: Tcl Exception Patch (not perfect, but fixes memory errors)" (119 lines) at http://nopaste.snit.ch/12866
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21:02 ambs now, I need to find out how to connect this test with runtime/parrot/library/pcre.*
21:03 ambs 5
21:03 Coke it's not fair using nopaste when you're NOT ON IRC. :|
21:04 ambs hehehe
21:04 ambs chromatic++
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21:04 Coke msg chromatic "looks good, go ahead and apply it and I'll keep poking"
21:04 purl Message for chromatic stored.
21:05 ambs coke++ # for making us note that he is not on IRC
21:05 Coke msg chromatic also, it's not fair using nopaste when you're NOT ON IRC. :|
21:05 purl Message for chromatic stored.
21:05 Coke msg chromatic also also wik: pie.
21:05 purl Message for chromatic stored.
21:05 * ambs wonders why there is a parrot interface with pcre if parrot has its own regular expressions engine
21:07 Coke if you want PCRE semantics.
21:07 Coke not like we can stop people from linking in their favorite lib anyway.
21:07 ambs but yeah, why not :)
21:07 ambs Coke, yes, that for sure
21:08 ambs particle, can you run configure under windows and check if pcre is detected?
21:08 ambs (and if you have it :D)
21:08 particle[ventus] i'm on ubuntu atm
21:08 ambs damn, our windows guy is not using Linux.
21:09 ambs now*
21:09 particle[ventus] i can reboot and/or physically relocate
21:09 dalek r27259 | chromatic++ | pdd25cx:
21:09 dalek : [Tcl] Fixed some of Tcl's exception handling.  Not everything is correct yet.
21:09 dalek : In particular, the Exception PMC returns 0 for an unset type, where Tcl appears
21:09 dalek : to want -1 -- but I'm not convinced I'm right about that.
21:09 dalek diff: http://www.parrotvm.org/svn​/parrot/revision?rev=27259
21:09 particle[ventus] but that involves overcoming momentum
21:09 ambs particle[ventus], later. no hurry :)
21:09 particle[ventus] or, since i'm not moving, inertia.
21:09 jonathan ambs: I'm on Windows, but don't have pcre
21:10 Coke he's either reading the channel log or has a new name.
21:10 NotFound ambs: v7.4 detected in ubuntu 8.04
21:10 ambs jonathan, and the configure says... no?
21:10 ambs NotFound, thanks
21:11 particle[ventus] notfound: no chance you have a gprs modem (mobile phone) configured with ubuntu, is there?
21:11 * particle[ventus] is having trouble configuring one :(
21:11 jonathan Determining if your platform supports pcre..............................no.
21:11 NotFound particle[ventus]: I can't use gprs, my religion forbids it.
21:12 ambs jonathan, good enough. Thanks!
21:12 particle[ventus] ah. you're in one of the luddite sects, i guess ;)
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21:13 NotFound particle[ventus]: I'm converted to WiiBoard's true faith.
21:15 ambs I'm with even karma but it is time to go sleep
21:15 ambs good night
21:15 purl sleep fast, sleep tight, don't let the bed bugs bite
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21:48 pmichaud particle:  I have a gprs modem with kubuntu :-)
21:49 NotFound Blasphem!
21:49 * Infinoid dials to the intarweb through his cellphone over bluetooth
21:50 Infinoid but its gentoo, not ubuntu...
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22:38 * jonathan sleeps...Rakudo hacking tomorrow
22:41 davidfetter i love the smell of rakudo in the morning
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23:27 Limbic_Region thanks to whomever fixed the Win32/Cygwin build failure
23:27 Limbic_Region working as of latest rev
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