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| 00:00 |
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kj |
well i probably did something wrong? |
| 00:00 |
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rurban |
I thought the logic was better, somehow |
| 00:00 |
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rurban |
I thought e.g. checking for .parrot_current_rev is better than DEVELOPING |
| 00:02 |
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rurban |
I wondered because my todo tests for native_pbs gave wrong results because I'm still developing |
| 00:02 |
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| 00:03 |
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rurban |
okay, bed is calling. bye! |
| 00:03 |
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kj |
thanks a bunch for your help! |
| 00:04 |
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kj |
allison: sorry to bother again, but I don't understand the PAUSE |
| 00:04 |
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rurban |
NotFound: t/pmc/fixedintegerarray.t fails |
| 00:05 |
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NotFound |
rurban: not for me |
| 00:05 |
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rurban |
it could be the gcov instrumentation |
| 00:05 |
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allison |
kj: PAUSE? |
| 00:05 |
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purl |
PAUSE is the Perl Authors Upload SErver |
| 00:05 |
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rurban |
I'm profiling right now |
| 00:05 |
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allison |
oh, uploading to PAUSE |
| 00:05 |
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kj |
allison: yes I can't make any sense of it |
| 00:05 |
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kj |
I need to assign myself co-maintainership |
| 00:05 |
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allison |
we should delete those instructions from the guide |
| 00:06 |
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NotFound |
The non-trivial and correct embed test now works both with c and c++ :) |
| 00:06 |
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allison |
but, for this month one of the CPAN authors can do the CPAN upload |
| 00:06 |
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| 00:06 |
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kj |
does that imply I can skip that? because the release message already indicates that it'll be on CPAN |
| 00:06 |
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rurban |
release is done and here he comes |
| 00:07 |
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allison |
kj: yes, I can upload to CPAN (or chromatic) if the tarball is already up on the ftp site |
| 00:07 |
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kj |
its on ftp-osl... |
| 00:08 |
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allison |
kj: and you ran the script to trigger the mirroring? |
| 00:08 |
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kj |
i did |
| 00:08 |
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allison |
kj: then it'll show up soon |
| 00:08 |
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rurban |
https://pause.perl.org/pause/a[…]TION=tail_logfile has no parrot yet |
| 00:08 |
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| 00:09 |
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allison |
kg: ah, already there |
| 00:09 |
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allison |
rurban: that's because it hasn't been uploaded to PAUSE yet |
| 00:10 |
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NotFound |
kj: nice title, I forgive you for not use 'Negative NaN' ;) |
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kj |
NotFound: heh. which was a good option as well :-) |
| 00:11 |
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kj |
but you should just hear the intro music that comes with this :-) |
| 00:11 |
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Topic for #parrotis now Parrot 0.9.1 Released |
| 00:11 |
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Topic for #parrotis now Parrot 0.9.1 Released | http://parrot.org/ |
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Topic for #parrotis now Parrot 0.9.1 Released | http://parrot.org/ | 458 RTs left! |
| 00:13 |
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NotFound |
kj: I'll try to make a version on the NDS Korg DS-10 |
| 00:13 |
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kj |
what's that? |
| 00:13 |
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purl |
that is, like, due to the echo service not running on BinGOs's box |
| 00:13 |
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NotFound |
kj: synthesizer/sequencer emulator for the Nintendo DS |
| 00:13 |
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kj |
oh very good :-) |
| 00:13 |
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cotto |
kj++ #gettin' 'er done |
| 00:13 |
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kj |
and we should all grow long hair :-) |
| 00:14 |
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cotto |
no, that is <reply> |
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cotto |
purl no, that is <reply> |
| 00:14 |
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purl |
okay, cotto. |
| 00:15 |
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jonathan |
kj++ # nice release name! |
| 00:17 |
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kj |
jonathan: thanks! |
| 00:17 |
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allison |
kj: uploaded to PAUSE. will take a while to process |
| 00:18 |
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kj |
allison: thanks! |
| 00:19 |
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kj |
how to update a small box on the side of a wiki page? |
| 00:19 |
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kj |
Whiteknight: ping # must know it :-) |
| 00:19 |
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purl |
I can't find # in the DNS. |
| 00:20 |
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Whiteknight |
kj:pong |
| 00:20 |
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kj |
hi Whiteknight; you're the wiki god over here |
| 00:20 |
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kj |
how do I add this little box on the wiki page with "quick facts" |
| 00:20 |
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Whiteknight |
which wiki, wikipedia? |
| 00:20 |
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kj |
eh, yes |
| 00:20 |
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Whiteknight |
what box do you need added? |
| 00:20 |
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kj |
well the box is there |
| 00:21 |
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kj |
but I need to edit the information |
| 00:21 |
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Whiteknight |
which page? |
| 00:21 |
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kj |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P[…]t_virtual_machine |
| 00:21 |
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kj |
it's on the right |
| 00:21 |
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kj |
am I just overlooking something? |
| 00:22 |
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Whiteknight |
okay, no sweat. It's a template at the top of the page |
| 00:22 |
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kj |
aaah |
| 00:22 |
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kj |
i see! |
| 00:22 |
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Whiteknight |
it's marked {{infobox software |
| 00:22 |
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kj |
yues i see now |
| 00:22 |
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kj |
thx! |
| 00:22 |
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Whiteknight |
okay, excellent |
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Coke |
devel check - did that get straightened out? |
| 00:32 |
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Coke |
(DEVELOPING) is not (normally) in the created tarball, but is always in svn. |
| 00:36 |
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kj |
Coke: DEVELOPING will not be included in the tarball; this is automatically, so "fool proof" |
| 00:36 |
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kj |
according to the rel.man.guide anyway |
| 00:37 |
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Coke |
right. just trying to figure out what rurban was concerned about. |
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| 00:42 |
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kj |
ok, I'm about to go home. news posted to reddit, slashdot, wikis updated, parrotblog |
| 00:42 |
|
kj |
now checking out perlmonks.org |
| 00:42 |
|
kj |
anything else I should do? |
| 00:44 |
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NotFound |
kj: take a beer |
| 00:44 |
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Infinoid |
kj++ |
| 00:44 |
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NotFound |
kj++ |
| 00:45 |
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NotFound |
I posted to barrapunto.com (spanish slashdot clone) |
| 00:45 |
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kj |
I'll go straight to bed :-), but thanks :-) |
| 00:46 |
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kj |
thank you all for help!! |
| 00:47 |
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dalek |
parrot: r36848 | coke++ | trunk: |
| 00:47 |
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dalek |
parrot: Resolve TT #267 - perl6 has left the nest, and its new location is documented in the 0.9.1 release. |
| 00:47 |
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dalek |
parrot: review: https://trac.parrot.org/parrot/changeset/36848/ |
| 00:50 |
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kj |
good night all |
| 00:53 |
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Coke |
Can someone tell me when string_repeat was removed from the repository? |
| 00:53 |
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| 00:54 |
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Coke |
ah. trac++ |
| 00:54 |
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chromatic |
Wasn't it renamed instead? |
| 00:55 |
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Coke |
yes, we were supposed to keep the old one as an alias until the release. |
| 00:59 |
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dalek |
parrot: r36849 | coke++ | trunk/DEPRECATED.pod: |
| 00:59 |
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dalek |
parrot: TT #210 was resolved some time ago sans deprecation. Remove reference to closed ticket. |
| 00:59 |
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dalek |
parrot: review: https://trac.parrot.org/parrot/changeset/36849/ |
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| 01:44 |
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dalek |
parrot: r36850 | whiteknight++ | branches/rename_pccinvoke/src: |
| 01:44 |
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dalek |
parrot: [rename_pccinvoke] update calls in src/io/api.c where S is in the results but not in the args. All tests pass (I ran them twice) |
| 01:44 |
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dalek |
parrot: review: https://trac.parrot.org/parrot/changeset/36850/ |
| 01:44 |
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Whiteknight |
i'm going to solve this issue if it kills me |
| 01:44 |
|
Whiteknight |
and then I'm going to be all like "oh noes, it killz me! LOL" |
| 01:44 |
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Infinoid |
Whiteknight++ # but please don't die |
| 01:45 |
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Whiteknight |
what kills me is that the results from a call are fine, even though there's all sorts of crazy pointer nonsense with them. It's the args, which are all firmly grounded, that are getting lost |
| 01:46 |
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Whiteknight |
Infinoid++ # is generous with karma, and generosity is infectious! |
| 01:49 |
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Infinoid |
\o/ |
| 02:10 |
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cotto |
there. |
| 02:11 |
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cotto |
best to take care of this sort of thing before someone opens a ticket |
| 02:11 |
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* cotto |
waits for dalek... |
| 02:11 |
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dalek |
tracwiki: v1 | cotto++ | ParrotQuotes |
| 02:11 |
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dalek |
tracwiki: first version with a dozen or so quotes |
| 02:12 |
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dalek |
tracwiki: https://trac.parrot.org/parrot[…]ion=1&action=diff |
| 02:12 |
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shorten |
dalek's url is at http://xrl.us/begm4u |
| 02:12 |
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Infinoid |
Since dalek is now tracking 18 rss feeds, I thought it best to increase its polling interval from 30 seconds to 3 minutes... |
| 02:13 |
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cotto |
no complaints from me |
| 02:14 |
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Infinoid |
oh hey, I'm in a few of those |
| 02:14 |
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Infinoid |
nice collection, cotto++ |
| 02:19 |
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dalek |
tracwiki: v2 | Infinoid++ | ParrotQuotes |
| 02:19 |
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dalek |
tracwiki: https://trac.parrot.org/parrot[…]ion=2&action=diff |
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shorten |
dalek's url is at http://xrl.us/begm5v |
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Infinoid |
#165 (Disable perl6-internals perl.org mailing list.) is listed under the "website" component, even though it seems more like a mlm sort of thing. |
| 02:58 |
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Infinoid |
allison: Is the same thing going to happen to parrotblog.org, then? |
| 02:58 |
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allison |
Infinoid: yes, not really a website item, though it's connected to a website item to update the old references to the old mailing list |
| 02:59 |
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Infinoid |
Well, I can nag the powers that be about the list stuff, no problem. |
| 02:59 |
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allison |
Infinoid: that's the general idea, though I've been impressed at the external traffic pulled in by parrotblog.org |
| 03:01 |
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Infinoid |
If the content is all there on parrot.org and parrotblog redirects to parrot, I would think that shouldn't change |
| 03:01 |
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Infinoid |
Might have some direct links broken by the redirect, I suppose |
| 03:01 |
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allison |
Infinoid: yeah, redirecting the url will take care of it. |
| 03:02 |
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Infinoid |
Ok, I'll see about crossposting stuff to tracwiki and/or backdated news posts if it seems appropriate |
| 03:03 |
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allison |
Infinoid: okay, thanks! |
| 03:03 |
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allison |
Infinoid: did you get editor access on parrot.org? |
| 03:05 |
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Infinoid |
I'm not really sure how to tell. I can click on a news post and I don't get an edit link, if that's relevant |
| 03:05 |
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Infinoid |
I do have a "Create content" in the menu in the upper right, though |
| 03:05 |
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allison |
Infinoid: okay, just granted your account editor role |
| 03:05 |
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allison |
you should see edit buttons on every page, and have the ability to create all types of content |
| 03:05 |
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Infinoid |
Oh, there it is. I refreshed and got a bunch more menu items |
| 03:06 |
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Infinoid |
Ok, thanks |
| 03:06 |
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allison |
also, you can create aliases to pages, so they have both the regular URL and a "fake" URL that matches the old website |
| 03:07 |
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rg |
quick question the release reminded me to ask: the freebsd port file has a note not to build as root "because of 'perldoc' issue". does anyone have an idea what that might be referring to? |
| 03:12 |
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Infinoid |
rg: might be referring to http://coding.derkeiler.com/Ar[…]-03/msg01862.html |
| 03:12 |
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shorten |
Infinoid's url is at http://xrl.us/begm97 |
| 03:13 |
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Infinoid |
(perldoc drops privileges, and thus might no longer have read access to the user's home directory) |
| 03:16 |
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rg |
thanks. |
| 03:18 |
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* Util |
wakes from nap; sees Editor role has been added to his parrot.org account. |
| 03:18 |
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Util |
++allison |
| 03:18 |
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allison |
Util: thanks for the help |
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dalek |
tracwiki: v51 | jimmy++ | WikiStart |
| 03:19 |
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dalek |
tracwiki: add ParrotQuotes</a> |
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dalek |
tracwiki: https://trac.parrot.org/parrot[…]on=51&action=diff |
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shorten |
dalek's url is at http://xrl.us/begnao |
| 03:27 |
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GeJ |
Good morning everyone |
| 03:31 |
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Infinoid |
allison: Is it a good idea to move static pages from the old sites onto the tracwiki, or will page aliases not work from www.parrot.org to trac.parrot.org? |
| 03:31 |
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Infinoid |
hi GeJ |
| 03:33 |
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Util |
Hi, GeJ |
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Infinoid |
Util: If you want to help with the website update stuff, I think TT #349 should make a good coordination point. Feel free to take ownership of some of those tickets :) |
| 03:39 |
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Infinoid |
What's the current status of docs.parrot.org? Is the work there as simple as making some pod2html output and rsyncing it into some webroot from a cron job? |
| 03:42 |
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Infinoid |
From reading #305, that's what it sounds like. I'll toss together a cron script and attach it to the ticket |
| 03:53 |
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allison |
Infinoid: it'll be built using the 'make html' target from the most recent release |
| 03:53 |
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GeJ |
heya Infinoid, Util. |
| 03:54 |
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allison |
Infinoid: the trac wiki is good for development coordination. www.parrotcode.org pages should generally become www.parrot.org pages |
| 03:54 |
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Infinoid |
ok, cool |
| 03:54 |
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allison |
Infinoid: some pages from the old SocialText wiki should also become www.parrot.org pages |
| 03:55 |
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Infinoid |
that's the TPF wiki? or is there yet another site? |
| 03:55 |
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allison |
Infinoid: yes, that's the TPF wiki |
| 03:55 |
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Infinoid |
great, that's TT #350 |
| 03:56 |
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allison |
Infinoid: because it was so difficult to modify the old www.parrotcode.org, people often ended up creating wiki pages for website content |
| 03:57 |
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Infinoid |
I've just made a script which cleans and updates a parrot checkout, configures, does "make html" and rsyncs the result into $WEBROOT/ (just to nudge the whole docs.parrot.org process along) |
| 03:57 |
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Infinoid |
And it works, and it emits no output. Perfect for running from cron once an hour |
| 03:58 |
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allison |
Infinoid: cool |
| 04:02 |
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Infinoid |
Ok, I'll probably start moving pages across tomorrow. But for now, food time! |
| 04:03 |
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Infinoid |
Thanks for all the answers |
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Util |
Infinoid: TT#350 pieces will be my first target. No real time until Monday evening. |
| 04:26 |
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Util |
After a few pieces of TT#350 , I will look at the whole tickets in TT#349 , and start the cycle of taking ownership and resolving its member tickets (one at a time). |
| 04:26 |
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Util |
++Infinoid for the make/rsync script; I had had the same thought, because I think Parrot will benefit greatly from more "live" online docs. |
| 04:26 |
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Util |
Even with always having a fresh Parrot checkout around, I keep finding myself wishing for Parrot's version of http://perlcabal.org/syn/ . |
| 04:31 |
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Util |
Night, all |
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Infinoid |
Util_away: Great, thanks |
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cotto |
Infinoid++ #finding the funny |
| 06:04 |
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cotto |
karma foo |
| 06:04 |
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purl |
foo has karma of 18 |
| 06:04 |
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cotto |
++foo |
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cotto |
karma foo |
| 06:04 |
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purl |
foo has karma of 18 |
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dalek |
parrot: r36852 | rurban++ | trunk/config/auto/arch.pm: |
| 06:18 |
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dalek |
parrot: [cage] Specialize for solaris cpuarch: i86pc => x86_64 |
| 06:18 |
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dalek |
parrot: review: https://trac.parrot.org/parrot/changeset/36852/ |
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dalek |
parrot: r36853 | rurban++ | trunk/config/auto/cpu/x86_64/auto.pm: |
| 06:22 |
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dalek |
parrot: [cage] typo in comment: whenn |
| 06:22 |
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dalek |
parrot: review: https://trac.parrot.org/parrot/changeset/36853/ |
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dalek |
parrot: r36854 | rurban++ | trunk/src/packfile/pf_items.c: |
| 07:37 |
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dalek |
parrot: [core] fix compilation on Solaris/SPARC as reported by Andy Dougherty |
| 07:37 |
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dalek |
parrot: - cvt_num12_num8_le was missing |
| 07:37 |
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dalek |
parrot: review: https://trac.parrot.org/parrot/changeset/36854/ |
| 07:52 |
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dalek |
parrot: r36855 | rurban++ | trunk/config/init/hints/solaris.pm: |
| 07:52 |
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dalek |
parrot: Fix TT #317 . Use -R on solaris instead of -Wl,-rpath=, even with gcc. |
| 07:52 |
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dalek |
parrot: Patch by Andy Dougherty. |
| 07:52 |
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dalek |
parrot: review: https://trac.parrot.org/parrot/changeset/36855/ |
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dalek |
rakudo: 842ef38 | (Moritz Lenz)++ | Test.pm: |
| 08:39 |
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dalek |
rakudo: Import Ovid's Test.pm with improved diagnostics. |
| 08:39 |
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dalek |
rakudo: Also added some type declarations to avoid accidential |
| 08:39 |
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dalek |
rakudo: dies_ok 'some_string_here' that should really have been eval_dies_ok. |
| 08:39 |
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dalek |
rakudo: That already caught some instances in the test suite. |
| 08:39 |
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dalek |
rakudo: review: http://github.com/rakudo/rakud[…]0b17ed652cd239f6a |
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rakudo: af2cace | jnthn++ | build/Makefile.in: |
| 11:25 |
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dalek |
rakudo: [build] Comment lines must have # at start of line to keep nmake happy. |
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dalek |
rakudo: review: http://github.com/rakudo/rakud[…]f7a56dd8b85a8fa84 |
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dalek's url is at http://xrl.us/begn4v |
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dalek |
rakudo: 044ba5e | jnthn++ | build/Makefile.in: |
| 11:29 |
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dalek |
rakudo: I have some issues building the fakeexecutable here; making test and spectest just depend on a perl6.pbc (which is what they actually *need*) for now. |
| 11:29 |
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dalek |
rakudo: review: http://github.com/rakudo/rakud[…]ed59c52249592784c |
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dalek |
rakudo: 5d74999 | jnthn++ | src/parser/ (3 files): |
| 12:39 |
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dalek |
rakudo: Support :: for declaring anonymous classes etc that can inherit from something. This incorporates the recent STD.pm change for this. |
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dalek |
rakudo: review: http://github.com/rakudo/rakud[…]eb13979baf2c55af0 |
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rakudo: 6663565 | jnthn++ | src/classes/Object.pir: |
| 13:05 |
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dalek |
rakudo: Fix initialization of parent attributes; resolves RT#61488. |
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dalek |
rakudo: review: http://github.com/rakudo/rakud[…]8e3aa92402e481b66 |
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shorten |
dalek's url is at http://xrl.us/begonn |
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jimmy |
good evening, masak. |
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masak |
你好, jimmy |
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jimmy |
好啊 |
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masak |
我在学习中文. |
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jimmy |
你一个人在看书吗？ |
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jimmy |
我刚才在下载英文资料学英文，呵呵 |
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masak |
对,一个人. |
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masak |
good luck with the English! |
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jimmy |
你也一样，现在中文进步很快吧？ |
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masak |
well, I don't know about that... :) |
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masak |
I'm making _some_ progress, surely. |
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masak |
but hardly rapid. there's just too much of everything. |
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masak |
太多了. |
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* sjn |
loves having an UTF-8 terminal, finally being able to see all those symbols I don't understand :) |
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jimmy |
You too. Is your Process of Studing Chinese very fast? |
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* szbalint |
too |
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jimmy |
sjn: using chatzilla |
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masak |
jimmy: no, not particularly. but there is some progress. |
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sjn |
gnome-term + screen + irssi here |
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szbalint |
sjn: my winning combo too |
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jimmy |
s/Process/progress/ |
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masak |
everybody: this has been a UTF-8 test. thank you for your collaboration. |
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* jonathan |
sees question marks everywhere |
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* moritz |
sses some empty boxes where the fonts don't have the appropriate characters |
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masak |
be glad you're not the ones studying Chinese, then :) |
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* masak |
uses Emacs, excellent both for viewing and typing hanzi |
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* jonathan |
transliterates and says "ni hao" |
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jimmy |
jonathan: 你好 |
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masak |
more question marks... |
| 13:37 |
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jimmy |
what does “more questions mark" mean? |
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jonathan |
?? |
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jonathan |
:-) |
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szbalint |
are there chinese equivalents of smileys btw? |
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jonathan |
jimmy: I'm unable to see Chinese characters displayed here, they just show as ?? instead. :-| |
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jimmy |
szbalint: yes. the same as english. |
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sjn |
☺ |
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sjn |
(that was a smiley, jonathan) |
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szbalint |
interesting :) |
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* jimmy |
just said 'ni hao' to jonathan |
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jimmy |
:) |
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jimmy |
:( |
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jimmy |
-) |
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dalek |
rakudo: d2d0d84 | jnthn++ | src/parser/ (2 files): |
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dalek |
rakudo: Support use of does inside packages. |
| 13:44 |
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dalek |
rakudo: review: http://github.com/rakudo/rakud[…]1b1e71bb04ab6bd87 |
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shorten |
dalek's url is at http://xrl.us/begopi |
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dalek |
rakudo: 7c5baa4 | jnthn++ | Configure.pl: |
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dalek |
rakudo: Turns out we don't need $slash in the Configure.pl for Windows to work - the $exe was the important thing. |
| 13:49 |
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dalek |
rakudo: review: http://github.com/rakudo/rakud[…]39984531c16193b4b |
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shorten |
dalek's url is at http://xrl.us/begopt |
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dalek |
tracwiki: v52 | jimmy++ | WikiStart |
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dalek |
tracwiki: add Parrot 0.9.1 released news |
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dalek |
tracwiki: https://trac.parrot.org/parrot[…]on=52&action=diff |
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shorten |
dalek's url is at http://xrl.us/begorx |
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jimmy |
karma jimmy |
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purl |
jimmy has karma of 57 |
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Coke_afk |
(chinese) instead of question marks, I get: \u263a |
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Coke |
which is no less enlightening. |
| 14:02 |
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jimmy |
does not support utf-8. |
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nopaste |
"jonathan" at 85.216.157.73 pasted "patch - if anyone with Parrot commit bit will put in for me ;-)" (13 lines) at http://nopaste.snit.ch/15658 |
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jonathan |
Coke: Any change my commit bit could be fixed? ;-) |
| 14:03 |
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jonathan |
*chance |
| 14:03 |
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jonathan |
Trac username is "jonathan" |
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Infinoid |
jonathan: done, r36856 |
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jonathan |
Infinoid: thanks |
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dalek |
parrot: r36856 | Infinoid++ | trunk/config/init/hints/mswin32.pm: |
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dalek |
parrot: Apply patch from jonathan++: |
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dalek |
parrot: [config] Increase the compiler VM size for pbc2exe on win32. |
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dalek |
parrot: review: https://trac.parrot.org/parrot/changeset/36856/ |
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Coke |
jonathan: checking. |
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jimmy |
karma Infinoid |
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purl |
infinoid has karma of 489 |
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dalek |
rakudo: 9e72b9d | jnthn++ | build/gen_metaop_pir.pl: |
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dalek |
rakudo: Generate min= and max= meta-ops. Patch courtesy of bacek++. |
| 14:24 |
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dalek |
rakudo: review: http://github.com/rakudo/rakud[…]48de0126acdd6a8a4 |
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shorten |
dalek's url is at http://xrl.us/begouh |
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Coke |
jonathan: you currently have "developer" access. |
| 14:29 |
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Coke |
do you have a "confirm your email" message pending? |
| 14:30 |
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Coke |
(ah, that's trac only. you're also in the "parrot_commiters" group. |
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Coke |
... that should be parrot_committers, AIGH. |
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jonathan |
I can never spell that right either. ;_) |
| 14:36 |
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Coke |
(it's spelled wrong in the permission system, not just here. ) |
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Coke |
anyway, your account looks ok to me. |
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jonathan |
Coke: OK, hmm. |
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dalek |
rakudo: 5c7da38 | pmichaud++ | build/PARROT_REVISION: |
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dalek |
rakudo: Bump PARROT_REVISION to include compiler VM size fix in r36856. |
| 14:46 |
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dalek |
rakudo: review: http://github.com/rakudo/rakud[…]40cdcd80824a8d66f |
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shorten |
dalek's url is at http://xrl.us/begow8 |
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dalek |
rakudo: c18fafa | jnthn++ | (2 files): |
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dalek |
rakudo: Copy libparrot.dll into place for Win32, so perl6.exe works. |
| 14:46 |
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dalek |
rakudo: review: http://github.com/rakudo/rakud[…]6f0920c13b6beb85c |
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shorten |
dalek's url is at http://xrl.us/begoxa |
| 14:46 |
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dalek |
rakudo: 876c093 | jnthn++ | build/PARROT_REVISION: |
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dalek |
rakudo: Merge branch 'master' of gitgithub.com:rakudo/rakudo |
| 14:46 |
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dalek |
rakudo: review: http://github.com/rakudo/rakud[…]a05be979e4687eaef |
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shorten |
dalek's url is at http://xrl.us/begoxc |
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jonathan |
meh...fail. |
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* jonathan |
should always pull before he pushes |
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Infinoid |
pull --rebase will get rid of that "Merge branch 'master'" noise |
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jonathan |
OK, will try and remember to do that in the future. |
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pmichaud |
fwiw, I don't think I should have to remember the "--rebase". Does the extra merge hurt? |
| 14:51 |
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pmichaud |
(and istr there was a potential downside to using the --rebase) |
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jonathan |
pmichaud: AFAICT it just makes for more noise here. |
| 14:52 |
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pmichaud |
so I'm thinking maybe dalek could be smart enough to suppress the noise. |
| 14:52 |
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pmichaud |
rather than making 'n' committers remember some weird command. |
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jonathan |
Aye. |
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jonathan |
My preferred solution too. ;-) |
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Infinoid |
The merge commit doesn't hurt, it just doesn't do anything |
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Infinoid |
The only downside I know of rebase is a loss of synchronization if you are using distributed repositories, which rakudo isn't |
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pmichaud |
does the --rebase have the potential to hurt? |
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Infinoid |
There's a way to set git up to do --rebase by default. |
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jonathan |
Infinoid: I guess the commit message is always like "Merge branch 'master' of gitgithub.com:rakudo/rakudo" so should be easy to detect/filter out in dalek. |
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Infinoid |
Heh. if that's your preferred solution, I'll implement it. But if I then go check out a copy of your latest c18fafa commit, it won't have pmichaud's commits |
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pmichaud |
Infinoid: why would it not have my commits? |
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Infinoid |
pmichaud: because he didn't rebase, and therefore, he's forked history with that commit |
| 14:55 |
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Infinoid |
That merge message is what git emits when it cleans up after that |
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pmichaud |
then just suppres the "Merge branch 'master'" message and not the commit. |
| 14:56 |
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pmichaud |
i.e., still report the 876c093 commit, just don't report the text after that. |
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pmichaud |
or mangle the report to say "merge branch master" as part of the commit message. |
| 14:57 |
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pmichaud |
i.e., as part of the first line. |
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pmichaud |
i.e., rakudo: 876c093 | jnthn++ | build/PARROT_REVISION: (Merge branch 'master'...) |
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jonathan |
pmichaud: Are you wanting to discuss/dig into Prelude stuff soonish? |
| 14:58 |
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pmichaud |
anyway, the tools need to support the developer's modes of working, not vice versa. |
| 14:58 |
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pmichaud |
jonathan: we can discuss settings, yes. :-) |
| 14:58 |
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Infinoid |
Absolutely. That's why I suggested setting it up to do --rebase by default |
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* jonathan |
tries to drill the new terminology into hs head. |
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pmichaud |
Infinoid: it would help more to know _how_ to do that, and to understand what that means. |
| 14:59 |
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pmichaud |
anyway, I have bigger fish to fry right now. |
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pmichaud |
jonathan: here or on #perl6? |
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Infinoid |
pmichaud: "git config branch.master.rebase 1" |
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jonathan |
Let's mvoe to #perl6 |
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pmichaud |
#perl6 probably makes more sense. |
| 15:00 |
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Infinoid |
pmichaud: Anyway, sorry for bothering you guys with trivial stuff :) |
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rurban |
Who's the JIT specialist here? chromatic? |
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particle |
svn blame |
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purl |
svn blame is just like p4 annotate, only better |
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leto_ |
mornin' |
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leto_ |
my favorite current rakudo bug: |
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leto_ |
> say NaN*1i |
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leto_ |
NaNNaNi |
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rurban |
what is li? |
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purl |
i heard li was DOS boot, fdisk.exe /mbr and pray or Long Island or Long Island. or Long Island or Long Island or Very Long Island. or Long Island or okra |
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jonathan |
Complex thingy. |
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PerlJam |
rurban: 1 (the number one) i |
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pmichaud |
it's a one, not an 'ell' |
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rurban |
one plus i, okay |
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pmichaud |
actually, one times i |
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jonathan |
Hmm, si that not maybe the correct answer? ;-) |
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rurban |
mul Nan, Complex |
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leto_ |
it happens for any number, not just one |
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leto_ |
how would I go about fixing this? |
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pmichaud |
is it truly a bug? |
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PerlJam |
leto_: what's the right behavior? |
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jonathan |
Maybe NaN + NaNi is better ;-) |
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leto_ |
NaN * anything = NaN |
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leto_ |
NaN * (a complex expression ) = NaN |
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rurban |
check parrot for this mul type |
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leto_ |
I haven't asked Larry about this, that is just what seems intuitive |
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rurban |
Parrot_mul_n_p |
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pmichaud |
there's a good argument that Parrot is incorrect there, yes. |
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leto_ |
rurban: thanks, I will look at that |
| 16:33 |
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pmichaud |
i.e., it might be a bug in Parrot's Complex PMC and not in Rakudo. |
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rurban |
It shoudl be in src/pmc/Complex.pmc |
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rurban |
I believe it's just a specification thing. What is the expected result? An exception or NaN? |
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rurban |
Same for Inf * Complex, Inf + Complex, ... |
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leto_ |
rurban: yes, semantic for complex numbers are still up in the air, but they interest me so I will hack on them and add tests and hopefully get some clarification from Larry |
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rurban |
I dont think that Larry is an authoritative on complex math... |
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dalek |
rakudo: 9c86a27 | jnthn++ | (4 files): |
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dalek |
rakudo: Break compile into two stages, the first compiling everything we did before, the second using that first stage to compile the Perl 6 setting and then making the final perl6.pbc. Also adds support for 'no Main' to suppress generating the Parrot :main method. Re-wrote Whatever's perl and ACCEPTS methods into Perl 6 as proof of concept. |
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dalek |
rakudo: review: http://github.com/rakudo/rakud[…]d99cf86d460692318 |
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dalek |
rakudo: 325cc2e | jnthn++ | (8 files): |
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shorten |
dalek's url is at http://xrl.us/begpau |
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dalek |
rakudo: Break compile into two stages, the first compiling everything we did before, the second using that first stage to compile the Perl 6 setting and then making the final perl6.pbc. Also adds support for 'no Main' to suppress generating the Parrot :main method. Re-wrote Whatever's perl and ACCEPTS methods into Perl 6 as proof of concept. |
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dalek |
rakudo: review: http://github.com/rakudo/rakud[…]eec9e2e230ed51eb8 |
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shorten |
dalek's url is at http://xrl.us/begpaw |
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PerlJam |
er ... why did 2 commits have the same message? |
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rurban |
Octave may be a good reference though |
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leto_ |
rurban: WelI, I can be authoritative on the math, but Larry can be authoritative about what semantics get settled on |
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jonathan |
PerlJam: Because I'm too stupid for git. |
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rurban |
https://www-old.cae.wisc.edu/p[…]April/005932.html |
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shorten |
rurban's url is at http://xrl.us/begpa8 |
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jonathan |
PerlJam: I'm still not used to having to explicitly list what I want to commit... |
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rurban |
Looks like the expected result is NaN |
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leto_ |
rurban: i will see how Mathematica/Octave/Yacas/Matlab/Maple handle it |
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rurban |
better the C99 standard or IEEE 754 |
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leto_ |
rurban: I don't know that either has complex numbers, but I will check |
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rurban |
amd64 jit with my new long double fixes get along quite well. I'm passing the first tests on 64bit 16-byte long double |
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rurban |
The sentence: "any number (if integer, float, complex, or big) multipled with NaN must result in Nan" is enough. |
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leto_ |
jonathan: I don't know if you use OS X, but GitX has a very nice interface to dealing with adding files (called staging them) that shows you a list of what has been staged, what hasn't and the current diff, all in a feel-good OS X GUI-way |
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rurban |
With Inf/-Inf it will get tricky though :) |
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leto_ |
rurban: Where is that sentence from? |
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rurban |
from my head :) |
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leto_ |
rurban: can I cite that :) ? |
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* Coke |
sees quevlar has re-opened his trac account. |
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jonathan |
leto_: No, Windows |
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rurban |
You can cite your mathematics teacher. |
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PerlJam |
leto_: how doe gitx differe from git gui ? |
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* Coke |
misreads leto_ as leo. whoops. |
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rurban |
greetings from leo btw. I met him in vienna. he has no time at all. |
| 16:47 |
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PerlJam |
jonathan: see if you have git-gui. I think it's standard with git these days. |
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dukeleto |
PerlJam: I haven't used git-gui, it is like gitk ? |
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szbalint |
rurban: you've been in vienna when? :) |
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Coke |
rurban: Hi, leo! |
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szbalint |
oh, still |
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rurban |
vienna-bratislava workshop |
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PerlJam |
dukeleto: not really. It's a gui for staging commits. git-gui will launch gitk for some operations in fact. |
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dukeleto |
PerlJam: gitx and gitk are similar except that GitX has native OS X widgets/trackpad support and the "staging view" which is like a commit mode that lets you add files and see the current diff while you are writing the commit message |
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dukeleto |
PerlJam: cool, I haven't messed with it |
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* dukeleto |
does not = leo, sorry for the confusion |
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PerlJam |
gitk doesn't do repo changes, git-gui does. |
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rurban |
I had a lot of fun with leo and andreas k�nig |
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dukeleto |
to give fair warning, GitX seems to have some memory leaks when opening huge repos |
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szbalint |
is he still smoking his hand rolled cigarettes? :) |
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jonathan |
vienna-bratislava was fun :-) |
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rurban |
no, not smoking |
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rurban |
I think I will use dtrace to check jit on amd64. Was that Andy Armstrong who added it to perl5? |
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dalek |
parrot: r36857 | rurban++ | trunk/config/auto/arch.pm: |
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dalek |
parrot: TT #256 : TODO better cpuarch check |
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dalek |
parrot: review: https://trac.parrot.org/parrot/changeset/36857/ |
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dalek |
rakudo: 459a7c8 | jnthn++ | (2 files): |
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dalek |
rakudo: Re-work things a bit so we just have one perl6.pir, as suggested by pmichaud++. |
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dalek |
rakudo: review: http://github.com/rakudo/rakud[…]26981d4d09ce084af |
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dalek |
rakudo: 8fef096 | jnthn++ | build/Makefile.in: |
| 17:04 |
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dalek |
rakudo: Replace spaces in makefile with tabs. |
| 17:04 |
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dalek |
rakudo: review: http://github.com/rakudo/rakud[…]ca2fccb4f7ef3d85d |
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rurban |
ah wrong ticket number. it should be #356 |
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shorten |
dalek's url is at http://xrl.us/begpd9 |
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shorten |
dalek's url is at http://xrl.us/begpeb |
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rurban |
ah: src/packfile/pf_items.c:385: error: pointer value used where a floating point value was expected |
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rurban |
kj: all t/native_pbc/*.pbc files are broken |
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rurban |
windows probably |
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rurban |
or the pbc header updater is broken. regenerated files do convert fine |
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Coke |
Tene: You have an item in DEPRECATED.pod, methinks. |
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Coke |
hurm. mebbe not. |
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dalek |
tracwiki: v4 | Infinoid++ | ParrotQuotes |
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dalek |
tracwiki: Reformat things to look (hopefully) a little nicer. |
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dalek |
tracwiki: https://trac.parrot.org/parrot[…]ion=4&action=diff |
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dalek's url is at http://xrl.us/begpky |
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dalek |
parrot: r36858 | NotFound++ | trunk/examples/nci/Xlib.pir: |
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dalek |
parrot: [examples] update data types in Xlib.pir |
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dalek |
parrot: review: https://trac.parrot.org/parrot/changeset/36858/ |
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dalek |
parrot: r36859 | rurban++ | trunk/t/native_pbc: |
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dalek |
parrot: Update wrong native_pbc files, broken with the release. |
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dalek |
parrot: review: https://trac.parrot.org/parrot/changeset/36859/ |
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Tene |
Coke: what is it? |
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purl |
it's it! |
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Coke |
Tene: I can't find it. |
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Coke |
I probably mean the other $committer =~ m/^t...$/i; |
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Tene |
tewk? |
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purl |
tewk is, like, Kevin Tew, mailto:tewktewk.com |
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Tene |
Coke: oh, there was that exceptions thing that allison was going to put in deprecated, I think. |
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rurban |
I think I just fixed the 64-bit align_16 issue with pbc reading. Stupid bug |
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dalek |
parrot: r36860 | coke++ | trunk: |
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dalek |
parrot: TT #109 - remove File::Spec |
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dalek |
parrot: review: https://trac.parrot.org/parrot/changeset/36860/ |
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dalek |
parrot: r36861 | coke++ | trunk: |
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dalek |
parrot: TT #107 - remove deprecated library Data::Escape (if you were using this, use the escape opcode instead.) |
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dalek |
parrot: review: https://trac.parrot.org/parrot/changeset/36861/ |
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Coke |
rdice: hey, Richard. |
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purl |
well, richard is going to Foxtons |
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Coke |
foxtons? |
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Coke |
is a foxton a large unit of gambling? |
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rdice |
Coke, g'day mate. |
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Coke |
... you're nawt australian! |
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rdice |
I can fake it, Bruce. |
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Bruce |
that's what sheila said. |
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dalek |
pipp: 19f09f0 | (Bernhard Schmalhofer)++ | (3 files): |
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dalek |
pipp: Generate to *.pbc in top dir, simplify installation |
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dalek |
pipp: Courtesy of fperrard |
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dalek |
pipp: review: http://github.com/bschmalhofer[…]faba98746e6cb03a6 |
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dalek's url is at http://xrl.us/begpwk |
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dalek |
pipp: b196f39 | (Bernhard Schmalhofer)++ | .gitignore: |
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dalek |
pipp: Add a .gitignore file |
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dalek |
pipp: review: http://github.com/bschmalhofer[…]55ec621eeaaa838c7 |
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dalek |
pipp: 558e71e | (Bernhard Schmalhofer)++ | .gitignore: |
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dalek's url is at http://xrl.us/begpwn |
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dalek |
pipp: ignore pipp_test_run.tar.gz |
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dalek |
pipp: review: http://github.com/bschmalhofer[…]0a766ba41995e8bdc |
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dalek's url is at http://xrl.us/begpwp |
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dalek |
pipp: b6120ee | (Bernhard Schmalhofer)++ | .gitignore: |
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dalek |
pipp: use complete pathes in .gitignore |
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dalek |
pipp: review: http://github.com/bschmalhofer[…]6eca4dac674c763e2 |
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dalek's url is at http://xrl.us/begpwr |
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dalek |
pipp: 82fdc2b | (Bernhard Schmalhofer)++ | src/phc/phc_xml_test2.xsl: |
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dalek |
pipp: Merge branch 'master' of gitgithub.com:bschmalhofer/pipp |
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dalek |
pipp: review: http://github.com/bschmalhofer[…]93a5203598c944200 |
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Bruce |
AIGH! DROWNING IN PIPP! |
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dalek's url is at http://xrl.us/begpwt |
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dalek |
pipp: 0dc6f36 | (Bernhard Schmalhofer)++ | .gitignore: |
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dalek |
pipp: let 'git status' report *.pbc files that are not in topdir |
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dalek |
pipp: review: http://github.com/bschmalhofer[…]a2bb0fd9a2cd256b4 |
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dalek's url is at http://xrl.us/begpw7 |
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rurban |
who came up the pbc alignment numbers? We have 16/8 = 2 on 64bit, 16/4 = 4 on 32bit. IN reality I would have choosen at least 16 or 32 for 64bit and maybe 8 for 32bit. |
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rurban |
We user a smaller alignment on 64bit than on 32bit. |
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dalek |
parrot: r36862 | fperrad++ | trunk/config/gen: |
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dalek |
parrot: [config] use TEMP variables (1) |
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dalek |
parrot: review: https://trac.parrot.org/parrot/changeset/36862/ |
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Coke |
rurban; svn blame will probably help. |
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Coke |
but I'm guessing that dates back to Dan. |
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rurban |
I'm guessing it was an error |
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Coke |
chromatic: you'll be happy, I'm updating a 3rd party library dependency in my app. |
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Coke |
no living in the past here! |
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chromatic |
o/~ Ohhh, you're halfway there. o/~ |
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rurban |
But at least I found why 64 + 32bit pbcs don't like each other |
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rurban |
The ALIGN_16 is always absolut, but should be specific to the wordsize or the parrot which wrote the pbc. So we have a 64bit - 32 bit mismatch |
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rurban |
stupid. |
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Coke |
it was probably also written in the absence of any 64 bit testing platforms. |
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rurban |
yes. |
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Coke |
chromatic: any chance you've poked at my favorite RT? |
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dalek |
parrot: r36863 | fperrad++ | trunk/config/auto: |
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dalek |
parrot: [config] use TEMP variables (2) |
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dalek |
parrot: review: https://trac.parrot.org/parrot/changeset/36863/ |
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rurban |
I looked for big bugs, but this is only a tiny one. sigh. |
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Coke |
(http://rt.perl.org/rt3/Ticket/[…]ay.html?id=57088) |
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nopaste |
"rurban" at 93.82.86.82 pasted "64bit pbc problem cuase. but still not ready" (11 lines) at http://nopaste.snit.ch/15664 |
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chromatic |
The inferior runloop? I've poked at it. |
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rurban |
chromatic: I've re-enabled long-double for jit: at TT#352 is a patch |
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rurban |
I've also taken the set_i_n rounding problem TT#353 (with patch), but this crashes. |
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nopaste |
"bacek" at 123.243.38.218 pasted "Big reduce metaop patch for pmichaud, jnhtn for review." (267 lines) at http://nopaste.snit.ch/15665 |
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dalek |
parrot: r36864 | rurban++ | trunk/src/packfile/pf_items.c: |
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dalek |
parrot: TT #308 . cvt_num8_num12 tested ok, so cheap compiler casts work ok. |
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dalek |
parrot: - fixed a ptr problem. |
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dalek |
parrot: review: https://trac.parrot.org/parrot/changeset/36864/ |
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dalek |
rakudo: 75ea93f | jnthn++ | src/parser/grammar-oper.pg: |
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dalek |
rakudo: infix:<**> should be right associative; patch courtesy of bacek++. |
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dalek |
rakudo: review: http://github.com/rakudo/rakud[…]7dda5618dcf27833b |
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shorten |
dalek's url is at http://xrl.us/begp23 |
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dalek |
rakudo: a020241 | jnthn++ | src/parser/actions.pm: |
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dalek |
rakudo: Some slight tweaks to code generation of is also classses and when no Main is in effect. |
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dalek |
rakudo: review: http://github.com/rakudo/rakud[…]c700d1ed33cf6f744 |
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dalek's url is at http://xrl.us/begp25 |
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dalek |
pipp: 1eb8293 | (Bernhard Schmalhofer)++ | (193 files): |
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dalek |
pipp: Remove a lot of useless $Id$ tags |
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dalek |
pipp: review: http://github.com/bschmalhofer[…]d06c350a40190997a |
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dalek's url is at http://xrl.us/begp27 |
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dalek |
parrot: r36865 | NotFound++ | trunk/t/src/embed.t: |
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dalek |
parrot: [t] destroy interpreter in embed tests |
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dalek |
parrot: review: https://trac.parrot.org/parrot/changeset/36865/ |
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dalek |
parrot: r36866 | pmichaud++ | trunk/compilers/pct/src/PAST/Node.pir: |
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dalek |
parrot: [pct]: Update PAST to generate unique subids across invocations. |
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dalek |
parrot: review: https://trac.parrot.org/parrot/changeset/36866/ |
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dalek |
parrot: r36867 | whiteknight++ | trunk/docs/book/ch04_pir_subroutines.pod: |
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dalek |
parrot: [Book] Committing two fixes to chapter 4. Thanks hexcoder++ |
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dalek |
parrot: review: https://trac.parrot.org/parrot/changeset/36867/ |
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GeJ |
Good morning everyone |
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Infinoid |
hi GeJ |
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Whiteknight |
hello GeJ |
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GeJ |
heaya guys, how's life treating you these days? |
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Whiteknight |
every day above ground is a good day |
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purl |
i already had it that way, Whiteknight. |
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Whiteknight |
I had a boss that used to say that all the time |
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Whiteknight |
of course, he was an alcoholic who cursed at nuns and purposefully made his shop handicapped-inaccessible |
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* Whiteknight |
reconsiders where he takes his quotes from |
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szbalint |
haha |
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dalek |
rakudo: 80fd5c5 | jnthn++ | (7 files): |
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dalek |
rakudo: Move a few methods on List and Pair over to the Perl 6 setting. |
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dalek |
rakudo: review: http://github.com/rakudo/rakud[…]f94fa384279448c73 |
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shorten |
dalek's url is at http://xrl.us/begqac |
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* Coke |
spends five hours tracking down something is basically "make sure you specify the encoding at every step." |
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Infinoid |
uck |
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dalek |
parrot: r36868 | fperrad++ | trunk: |
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dalek |
parrot: [crypto] t/distro/test_file_coverage.t wants a test file per pmc. |
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dalek |
parrot: So these test files are generated from digest_t.in. |
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dalek |
parrot: See TT #348 |
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dalek |
parrot: review: https://trac.parrot.org/parrot/changeset/36868/ |
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Coke |
now I have < 1 hour left to perform my original task for the afternoon. :) |
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nopaste |
"bacek" at 114.73.132.155 pasted "Revice reduce metaop patch for pmichaud" (210 lines) at http://nopaste.snit.ch/15666 |
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bacek |
pmichaud: s/revice/revised/... |
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pmichaud |
why are we having to do the same stuff for [//=] ? we already know its associativity. |
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pmichaud |
also GETOPASSOC should return associativity, not true/false. or, if it's checking specifically for right associativity, it should be named something that indicates that. |
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bacek |
ISOPRIGHTASSOC? Or just ISRIGHTSSOC? |
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pmichaud |
I'd prefer if REDUCEMETAOP could dtrt with all the associativities. |
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pmichaud |
not just right and left. |
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bacek |
hm. How other associative can change REDUCEMETAOP? Or you prefer to merge REDUCEMETAOP and REDUCEMETAOPCHAIN? |
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pmichaud |
merging sounds useful, if we can do it. |
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bacek |
(And don't quite understand question about //=...) |
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pmichaud |
I've never been too keen on having them as separate functions (although it may be a necessary distinction if they're radically different). |
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jonathan |
I forget why they were separate now; I know I added REDUCEMETAOPCHAIN. |
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pmichaud |
I think it was originally done as separate because it was shortest path to a goal. |
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bacek |
jonathan: ..CHAIN is shortcircuit |
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pmichaud |
but I try to not let too much of that spread throughout the codebase. |
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jonathan |
bacek: Ah. That would be one good reason... |
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jonathan |
bacek: But I think it was more than an optimization. |
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pmichaud |
i.e., I'm not a big fan of lots of copy+paste code, which is what this is starting to look like |
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pmichaud |
(I'm also not a big fan of lots of itty-bitty helper functions to make the copy+paste approach look less like copy+paste :-) |
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pmichaud |
many times copy+paste means we didn't figure out the underlying pattern correctly. |
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bacek |
pmichaud: No way! It's not my fault :) |
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bacek |
pmichaud: I can simplify REDUCE if I will always build result_list. |
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bacek |
It will be more clean but less efficient. |
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pmichaud |
why isn't triangle simply a matter of deciding whether to do a push? |
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pmichaud |
i.e., why does it need its own code section? |
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bacek |
In REDUCEMETAOP or ..CHAIN? |
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pmichaud |
in either. |
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bacek |
..CHAIN is shortcircuiting. And I have to build full result-list. |
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bacek |
REDUCEMETAOP - to avoid building result_list if it not required. |
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pmichaud |
bacek: isn't avoiding the push the same as "avoid building result_list" ? |
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pmichaud |
i.e., I don't see why we need two separate loops. |
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pmichaud |
it would help if I could see the file after the patch in addition to just the patch |
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bacek |
There is only one loop in REDUCEMETAOP... |
| 21:44 |
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bacek |
Ah. |
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pmichaud |
let me apply the patch and take a look, just a sec. |
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bacek |
no. |
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bacek |
just a sec |
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dalek |
tracwiki: v61 | fperrad++ | Languages |
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dalek |
tracwiki: update Parrot version to 0.9.1 |
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dalek |
tracwiki: https://trac.parrot.org/parrot[…]on=61&action=diff |
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dalek's url is at http://xrl.us/begqfo |
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dalek |
parrot: r36869 | allison++ | trunk: |
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dalek |
parrot: [install] Installing appropriate generated files for running dynops |
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dalek |
parrot: generation from an installed Parrot. Searching install paths for Perl |
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dalek |
parrot: utility libraries for op generation. |
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dalek |
parrot: review: https://trac.parrot.org/parrot/changeset/36869/ |
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pmichaud |
GROWL |
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pmichaud |
$I0 = opfunc(a, b) |
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pmichaud |
unless $I0 goto false |
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pmichaud |
WRONG WRONG WRONG |
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purl |
NOW YOU MUST DIE! |
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dalek |
tracwiki: v62 | fperrad++ | Languages |
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dalek |
tracwiki: add links to Smolder (Lua & Pipp) |
| 21:49 |
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dalek |
tracwiki: https://trac.parrot.org/parrot[…]on=62&action=diff |
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dalek's url is at http://xrl.us/begqge |
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* jonathan |
takes a few paces back form pmichaud and purl |
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pmichaud |
i see that a lot in the codebase and it makes me cringe. |
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jonathan |
Why is it a fail, generally? |
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pmichaud |
0 but True |
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purl |
0 but True is a C exit code thing. |
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jonathan |
Ah. |
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jonathan |
Yes |
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pmichaud |
"xyz" |
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pmichaud |
numifies to 0 but boolifies to true. |
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jonathan |
*nod* |
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Coke |
ah. so $P0 = opfunc(a,b)\n unless $P0 goto false would work. |
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jonathan |
$P0 = opfunc(a, b) / unless $P0 goto false should be fine. |
| 21:52 |
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pmichaud |
yes |
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* Coke |
smacks jonathan. |
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jonathan |
But yes, good point. |
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pmichaud |
but the point is also that it makes the code itself simpler. |
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purl |
okay, pmichaud. |
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jonathan |
Coke: What'd I do to deserve that? ;-) |
| 21:53 |
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pmichaud |
because we don't need to then turn around and convert the integer back into a True/False value. |
| 21:53 |
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pmichaud |
it's silly that we convert true/false results into integers just to turn them back into true/false again. |
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jonathan |
Aye. |
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pmichaud |
(in addition to the fact that it's an error) |
| 21:54 |
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jonathan |
I'm sure I've managed to screw that up at least once... |
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dalek |
tracwiki: v63 | fperrad++ | Languages |
| 21:58 |
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dalek |
tracwiki: typo |
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dalek |
tracwiki: https://trac.parrot.org/parrot[…]on=63&action=diff |
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shorten |
dalek's url is at http://xrl.us/begqhy |
| 21:59 |
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pmichaud |
when bacek returns: the key feature about reducing chained ops is not that it short circuits, but rather that there's an implicit 'and' in the comparisons. |
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cotto |
fperrad++ #"redundance or duplication" |
| 21:59 |
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Coke |
jonathan: nothing, merely send duplication. |
| 22:00 |
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dalek |
rakudo: d3cc978 | jnthn++ | (5 files): |
| 22:00 |
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dalek |
rakudo: Some more methods from Bool and Pair converted to Perl 6. |
| 22:00 |
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dalek |
rakudo: review: http://github.com/rakudo/rakud[…]9759a7bd483ae114d |
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dalek's url is at http://xrl.us/begqik |
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jonathan |
pmichaud: Ah, that's it. |
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pmichaud: I was sure I'd done it for more than optimization... |
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pmichaud: sorry, my laptop battery just died... |
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21:59 <pmichaud> when bacek returns: the key feature about reducing chained ops is not that it short circuits, but rather that there's an implicit 'and' in the comparisons. |
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pmichaud |
or, if there's not an implicit 'and', then we might need to make that clear in the specification for reduction of chained ops. |
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pmichaud |
for example: [\==] 3, 4, 4, 4 should probably be False, False, False, False |
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pmichaud |
since 3 == 4 is false, 3 == 4 == 4 is false, etc. |
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dalek |
rakudo: 444a4c8 | jnthn++ | (2 files): |
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dalek |
rakudo: Add Array.pm to the prelude. For now it just contains splice, written by cspencer++ and attached to RT#49173. Happily, this gets two more of the 99 problems spectests running. |
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dalek |
rakudo: review: http://github.com/rakudo/rakud[…]6e4575b01f8cdd8aa |
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shorten |
dalek's url is at http://xrl.us/begqn3 |
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bacek |
pmichaud: (sorry for delay... I at $dayjob ATM). http://github.com/bacek/rakudo[…]iltins/assign.pir with my version of REDUCEMETAOP |
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shorten |
bacek's url is at http://xrl.us/begqpa |
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dalek |
parrot: r36870 | NotFound++ | trunk: |
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dalek |
parrot: [core] add functions Parrot_get_root_namespace and Parrot_PMC_get_pmc_strkey to extend.h |
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dalek |
parrot: review: https://trac.parrot.org/parrot/changeset/36870/ |
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bacek |
And I'll try to read spec more carefully to understand why [\==] implies explicit 'and' |
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Infinoid |
It's for short-circuiting, right? |
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Infinoid |
Well, that's the effect, not the cause |
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dalek |
parrot: r36871 | NotFound++ | trunk/t/src/embed.t: |
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dalek |
parrot: [t] compile and use a pir sub in embed |
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dalek |
parrot: review: https://trac.parrot.org/parrot/changeset/36871/ |
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Tene |
does $.foo not work for attr access in a class? |
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Tene |
in rakudo? |
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jonathan |
Should work. |
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jonathan |
Surely we have tests for that. |
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Tene |
Pair.pm uses the self.foo |
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jonathan |
Could use $.foo too |
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jonathan |
I expect. |
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Tene |
is 'min' implemented? |
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jonathan |
Pair.pm was a port of the PIR. ;-=) |
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jonathan |
Yes. |
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Tene |
Ah. |
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jonathan |
Tene: If you have a commit bit, feel free to s/self.key/$.key/ |
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Tene |
I should just check out rakudo from git and figure out if I have access |
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jonathan |
It's clearer. |
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Tene |
I was asking about 'min' for Array.pm in the setting |
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Tene |
splice() |
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purl |
i think splice() is sexy...is there a Perl module that exposes that yet? |
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Tene |
purl: forget splice |
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purl |
Tene: I forgot splice |
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jonathan |
Tene: splice can probably be written more idiomatically. |
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sproingie |
smoke_languages fails with lua :( |
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src\pmc_freeze.c:955: failed assertion '(int)io->image->bufused >= 0' |
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jonathan |
Tene: OTOH, we don't wanna get *too* idiomatic there. |
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Tene |
jonathan: is there an official or unofficial kind of policy on the balance there? |
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jonathan |
Or too clever, I guess. |
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jonathan |
Tene: Not yet, but it may come down more to, what's available. |
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jonathan |
Since you can only really use stuff classes that were declared at some point earlier. |
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Tene |
Right. |
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jonathan |
(Though is also lets you extend them some...) |
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jonathan |
I ain't got that ordering completely worked out yet, though. |
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Tene |
pmichaud: can I have commit privs on rakudo on github? |
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Tene |
or am I just supposed to fork it on github and ask for pull requests? |
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chromatic |
Can you define custom operators in Rakudo right now without writing PIR? |
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jonathan |
chromatic: No. |
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chromatic |
Okay, all I needed to know. Thanks. |
