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00:04 cotto Whiteknight, does your patch cover anything I missed?
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00:09 chromatic cotto, when we get vtable swap we can clean up a lot of the Key mess.
00:09 cotto vtable swap?
00:10 chromatic When a Key has an Integer key, we swap in the Integer Key vtable just for that PMC.
00:10 chromatic ... etc
00:10 chromatic You know, replace conditional with polymorphism.
00:10 cotto sounds much better
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00:20 Whiteknight The Key PMC is going to take a lot of work to clean it up, but the results are going to be very good I think
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00:32 dalek parrot: r37038 | jkeenan++ | branches/deprecate_ref:
00:32 dalek parrot: Create branch to work on removal of Ref PMC as per TT 190.
00:32 dalek parrot: review: https://trac.parrot.org/parrot/changeset/37038/
00:34 cotto kid51++ #out with the old
00:35 cotto (although I'm not sure why you're bothering to make a branch)
00:36 kid51 cotto:  Making a branch because I don't necessarily know what I'm getting into.
00:36 kid51 TT 190 really doesn't give me much to go on.
00:36 kid51 The TT about Tqueue didn't give me much to go on either, but at least I could grep for tqueue easily.
00:36 rurban will there be another PMC deprecation (PBC_COMPAT change) before 1.0?
00:37 kid51 rurban:  I guess it depends on who steps up to the plate re implementing the deprecations permitted in DEPRECATED.pod.
00:37 kid51 I'm only taking the ones I think I have minimal competence to do.
00:39 rurban Random, Pointer, Ref, TQueue, union struct, hmm
00:39 kid51 TQueue is already gone.  As for the others, there's been some back and forth in the respective tickets.
00:40 cotto I don't think any of the UnionVal deprecations will mess up pbc compat.
00:40 rurban we will see :)
00:40 chromatic Removing deprecated ops will change PBC_COMPAT.
00:41 rurban sure
00:41 rurban I would prefer to have them removed in one big step.
00:41 kid51 Yes.  Coke instructed me to make an entry in PBC_COMPAT when I yanked out TQueue.  But that's all I did.
00:42 kid51 But I have to take small steps, because I don't actually know what all these PMCs are about ;-)
00:44 rurban Ok, Now that I'm finished with 64bit pbc compat, I'll take TT# 365 Sparc64
00:46 cotto 365?
00:46 rurban oops, TT #364 of course, A sparc64 blocker, but simple to fix
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01:05 kid51 Alright, I realize I don't know enough to do that deprecation.
01:10 dalek parrot: r37039 | jkeenan++ | branches/deprecate_ref:
01:10 dalek parrot: Don't know enough to work on this deprecation, so no need to keep this branch
01:10 dalek parrot: open.
01:10 dalek parrot: review: https://trac.parrot.org/parrot/changeset/37039/
02:04 Tene pmichaud: ping
02:05 pmichaud Tene: pong
02:06 Tene pmichaud: past for making a new failure?
02:06 Tene just an inline op?
02:06 pmichaud in rakudo?  probably call 'fail'
02:06 pmichaud or '!FAIL' can work also.
02:07 Tene currently try uses an inline op.
02:07 Tene Oh, okay
02:07 pmichaud I'm trying to get away from the direct calls to 'new' in the code.
02:07 Tene past op :call 'fail'
02:07 pmichaud sure -- that'll throw an exception.
02:08 Tene Oh, no... for assigning to $!
02:08 pmichaud I'm afraid I don't quite understand the question, then.
02:08 pmichaud (I haven't looked at that code in quite a while. :-)
02:09 Tene op( :bind, Var($!), 'new Failure')
02:09 pmichaud just bind it to the return value of '!FAIL' then
02:10 Tene kk
02:10 Tene I have exceptions patch, then.  I'll commit when I get home.
02:12 Tene You will want to clean up some of it.  I can't get the handlers attribute to assign in a non-ugly way.  Currently have an if() assigning () to an @array.  It's what I already had there, but in one more place now
02:13 Tene You can / in actions.pm for @handlers if you want to see what I'm talking about.  I kept getting null pmc exceptions if I tried to do it in any other way, so I gave up.
02:13 Tene not important now, though.
02:14 Tene I'll try to look at pdd23 on the plane.
02:14 Tene It needs user docs, iirc?
02:14 Tene Where do those go?
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02:21 pmichaud Tene: I don't know.
02:22 Tene Huh.  Okay.
02:23 Tene I'll write some prose and commit somewhere randomly. :)
02:23 Tene (joke)
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04:18 dalek rakudo: c1f3976 | pmichaud++ | docs/glossary.pod:
04:18 dalek rakudo: Add entry for PGE to glossary.pod (frooh++)
04:18 dalek rakudo: review: http://github.com/rakudo/rakudo/commit/c​1f3976001a082a6d1ecb67fd27a718e9a226fc9
04:18 shorten dalek's url is at http://xrl.us/behtb2
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04:45 * Coke tries to figure out why "make testb" is still running parrot with -b
04:53 ilia is sending a pull request a good way to get patches in
04:54 ilia anybody know how to diff two projects on github
04:54 ilia an upstream and a fork
04:55 pmichaud ilia: we're still working out the patch flow.  Pull requests are okay for now, but there's a long backlog because github only displays the first 50 commits
04:55 pmichaud (note:  50 commits, not 50 requests)
04:55 pmichaud the official mechanism is still to submit a PATCH to RT
04:56 ilia the pull request screen is asking me to select recepeients
04:56 ilia only name i recognize is petdance
04:59 ilia pmichaud: should u send the pull request to you
05:00 pmichaud ilia: you can send it to me, yes.
05:00 pmichaud or you can send it to rakudo
05:00 pmichaud rakudo probably makes more sense.
05:00 pmichaud gotta run
05:10 ilia done
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07:38 dalek rakudo: 9e24621 | (Stephen Weeks)++ | src/parser/actions.pm:
07:38 dalek rakudo: Fix exception handlers to not catch control exceptions.
07:38 dalek rakudo: Make exception handlers mark $! as handled.
07:38 dalek rakudo: review: http://github.com/rakudo/rakudo/commit/9​e24621747a6160d6907af30ac2222fc784416f2
07:38 shorten dalek's url is at http://xrl.us/behtnn
07:40 * Tene pings jonathan
07:46 Tene ilia: do you have pending patches?
08:12 TiMBuS looking at githuib it doesnt really look like anybody's forks have been pulled back to upstream
08:12 TiMBuS thats a pity
08:18 Tene TiMBuS: there's been a decent amount pulled back, but most of the rakudo devs only found out about the fork queue a couple of days ago
08:19 TiMBuS oh
08:20 TiMBuS ah i see the individual commits there, its being manually pulled back in too.
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10:11 Tene purl: msg jonathan You opened a ticket about exception handling... I think I fixed it and you should investigate and maybe close it.
10:11 purl Message for jonathan stored.
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10:29 protorom first attempt at compiling parrot - not getting a parrot_config file on OS-X :-( nopaste: http://sial.org/pbot/35283
10:29 protorom is this a known issue?
10:35 rurban protorom: you need to do make first
10:35 protorom ah
10:35 rurban Configure.pl just creates config_lib.pasm config.h and the perl5 config library
10:36 rurban parrot_config is just a util to access config_lib.pasm
10:36 protorom ok - so the checkout parrot; configure; checkout rakudo; configure sequence I was told needs to have a make squeezed in there :-)
10:36 protorom make's running - thanks
10:37 rurban where did you read that? we should fix it
10:38 protorom I'm sitting with gabor and he just told me (not from documentation :-)
10:38 rurban ok.
10:39 protorom fixed :-)
10:39 rurban msvc nmake error: .pmc.c : $(SRC_DIR)\pmc\pmc_sub.h makefile(699) : fatal error U1086: inference rule cannot have dependents
10:40 rurban msg cotto r37016 msvc nmake error: .pmc.c : $(SRC_DIR)\pmc\pmc_sub.h makefile(699) : fatal error U1086: inference rule cannot have dependents
10:40 purl Message for cotto stored.
10:47 dalek parrot: r37040 | rurban++ | trunk/config/gen/makefiles/root.in:
10:47 dalek parrot: [cage] r37016 broke msvc
10:47 dalek parrot:   nmake error: .pmc.c : $(SRC_DIR)\pmc\pmc_sub.h
10:47 dalek parrot:   makefile(699) : fatal error U1086: inference rule cannot have dependents
10:47 dalek parrot: special case msvc
10:47 dalek parrot: review: https://trac.parrot.org/parrot/changeset/37040/
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11:36 bsdz I filed a bug http://rt.perl.org/rt3/Tic​ket/Display.html?id=63522 for the msvc makefile error. looks like it's using the old fashioned suffix rules http://www.gnu.org/software/mak​e/manual/make.html#Suffix-Rules
11:36 shorten bsdz's url is at http://xrl.us/behtuy
11:37 rurban bsdz: fix already commited today, please svn up. and please file bugs into trac.perl.org, not into rt
11:38 bsdz ruban: does parrot bug know about trac?
11:38 rurban oops, good point
11:39 rurban but please confirm my fix: r37040
11:39 bsdz i used parrotbug to submit reports
11:39 bsdz just checking..
11:44 dalek parrot: r37041 | rurban++ | trunk/config/gen/makefiles (2 files):
11:44 dalek parrot: [config] TT #381 add libs to LINKARGS in dyn makefiles,
11:44 dalek parrot: esp. required for unlazy linkers (win32, aix)
11:44 dalek parrot: review: https://trac.parrot.org/parrot/changeset/37041/
11:49 dalek parrot: r37042 | fperrad++ | trunk (4 files):
11:49 dalek parrot: rename rand library
11:49 dalek parrot: review: https://trac.parrot.org/parrot/changeset/37042/
11:49 rurban bsdz: did it work? I want to close your ticket
11:50 bsdz yes is compiling
11:50 bsdz thanks
11:52 bsdz rurban, will you be updating parrotbug? if so could make minor change system("$editor $filename") --> system($editor, $filename). otherwise can't handle spaces in my $editor path
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11:59 rurban bsdz: not now but later. I'll keep it in my mind.
11:59 bsdz thanks
12:01 rurban bsdz: just looked. easy fix for you (space in filenames), but the mail address routing must be fixed elsewhere.
12:03 bsdz thanks ruban. for now i'll submit bugs directly to trac.
12:05 rurban we want to get rid of rt completely
12:06 rurban bsdz++
12:07 dalek parrot: r37043 | rurban++ | trunk/parrotbug:
12:07 dalek parrot: [cage] enable spaces in $editor pathname. patch by bsdz on #parrot
12:07 dalek parrot: review: https://trac.parrot.org/parrot/changeset/37043/
12:07 rurban And again rt.perl.org is completely broken. I'll resolve it later
12:11 dalek parrot: r37044 | fperrad++ | trunk/runtime/parrot/library/uuid.pir:
12:11 dalek parrot: [uuid] replace deprecated Random PMC by library Math/Rand
12:12 dalek parrot: review: https://trac.parrot.org/parrot/changeset/37044/
12:29 dalek parrot: r37045 | rurban++ | trunk (10 files):
12:29 dalek parrot: [t] TT #357 better t/native_pbc tests
12:29 dalek parrot: - rewrite: now we have sane numbers testmatrix
12:29 dalek parrot: - and much better test logic for skip and todo
12:29 dalek parrot: - fix string.t as t/op/string_133.pasm changed
12:29 dalek parrot: - add new _6 files from Sparc64 by rg
12:29 dalek parrot: - added room for Sparc64 long double as _7
12:29 dalek parrot: review: https://trac.parrot.org/parrot/changeset/37045/
12:34 rurban I'm leaving now to the frankfurt.pm workshop meeting at wagners, sachsenhausen.
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14:44 Coke message kid51: thanks for trying these; I will try to leave some of the easier ones for you next time.
14:44 purl Message for kid51 stored.
14:48 dalek parrot: r37046 | fperrad++ | trunk/tools/dev (2 files):
14:48 dalek parrot: [install] now mk_inno_languages.pl works in language directory (previously in the root of parrot build tree)
14:48 dalek parrot: review: https://trac.parrot.org/parrot/changeset/37046/
14:51 dalek gil: fa74a3d | (Francois Perrad)++ |  (2 files):
14:51 dalek gil: re-run mk_language_shell.pl
14:51 dalek gil: review: http://github.com/fperrad/gil/commit/fa​74a3d612a7f221cdf1fa3f787d779560c5076a
14:51 shorten dalek's url is at http://xrl.us/beht5g
14:52 dalek lua: 5301cc9 | (Francois Perrad)++ |  (3 files):
14:52 dalek lua: re-run mk_language_shell.pl
14:52 dalek lua: review: http://github.com/fperrad/lua/commit/53​01cc99a05cef30b48c493c1b638eb7ddbc9717
14:52 shorten dalek's url is at http://xrl.us/beht5k
14:52 dalek lua: 772dede | (Francois Perrad)++ | src/lib/luamath.pir:
14:52 dalek lua: Math/Rand was renamed
14:52 dalek lua: review: http://github.com/fperrad/lua/commit/77​2dede48c3ec5f1493c365edb9e301f1973da5a
14:52 shorten dalek's url is at http://xrl.us/beht5n
14:53 dalek parrot: r37047 | fperrad++ | trunk/languages/squaak (2 files):
14:53 dalek parrot: [squaak] re-run mk_language_shell.pl (r37046)
14:53 dalek parrot: review: https://trac.parrot.org/parrot/changeset/37047/
14:56 dalek markdown: 251b033 | (Francois Perrad)++ |  (2 files):
14:56 dalek markdown: re-run mk_language_shell.pl
14:56 dalek markdown: review: http://github.com/fperrad/markdown/commit​/251b033dc96900baf21f18c7db54a9fa6442606c
14:56 shorten dalek's url is at http://xrl.us/beht5r
14:57 dalek wmlscript: cc9fcad | (Francois Perrad)++ |  (2 files):
14:57 dalek wmlscript: re-run mk_language_shell.pl
14:57 dalek wmlscript: review: http://github.com/fperrad/wmlscript/commit​/cc9fcad8628aa2a61f92b8a599b7359a7b838f8d
14:57 shorten dalek's url is at http://xrl.us/beht5t
14:57 dalek wmlscript: ba30fe2 | (Francois Perrad)++ | src/runtime/wmlslang.pir:
14:57 dalek wmlscript: library Math/Rand was renamed
14:57 dalek wmlscript: review: http://github.com/fperrad/wmlscript/commit​/ba30fe2c99f331089263411dfe93679790e696b6
14:57 shorten dalek's url is at http://xrl.us/beht5v
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16:35 dalek rakudo: 57a0cf4 | pmichaud++ | docs/spectest-progress.csv:
16:35 dalek rakudo: spectest-progress.csv update: 315 files, 7084 passing, 0 failing
16:35 dalek rakudo: review: http://github.com/rakudo/rakudo/commit/5​7a0cf440d3649db1430412903384d82994dfeb7
16:35 shorten dalek's url is at http://xrl.us/behubz
16:35 dalek rakudo: f7a7bf4 | pmichaud++ | tools/test_summary.pl:
16:35 dalek rakudo: We no longer need the "[rakudo]:" part of the commit message.
16:35 dalek rakudo: review: http://github.com/rakudo/rakudo/commit/f​7a7bf491584f29def2316532f0203986d483704
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17:00 dalek parrot: r37048 | jkeenan++ | trunk/config/gen/makefiles/root.in:
17:00 dalek parrot: Guarantee that generated test files in t/dynpmc/*.t are cleaned out by 'make realclean' per https://trac.parrot.org/parrot/ticket/383.
17:00 dalek parrot: review: https://trac.parrot.org/parrot/changeset/37048/
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18:51 dalek parrot: r37049 | fperrad++ | trunk/tools/docs/mk_chm.pl:
18:51 dalek parrot: [chm] minor cleanups
18:51 dalek parrot: review: https://trac.parrot.org/parrot/changeset/37049/
18:58 protorom_ rurban: was nice to meet you - and thanks again for the help :-)
19:10 dmq hey guys
19:10 dmq still in karin?
19:10 dalek parrot: r37050 | rurban++ | trunk/t/native_pbc (5 files):
19:10 * dmq poke protorom....
19:10 dalek parrot: [t] bc 3.37 32-bit updates
19:10 dalek parrot: review: https://trac.parrot.org/parrot/changeset/37050/
19:11 dmq dmq pokes protorom_
19:11 protorom_ dmq: ouch :-)
19:13 dmq so you guys  are still in Cafe Karin?
19:13 protorom_ dmq: I thought you wanted to build stuff tonight ? get afk ;-)
19:14 dmq heh
19:14 dmq i need a brief digital boost before i pick up the old hammer and nail.
19:14 protorom_ dmq: didn't you just leave us in the café?
19:14 protorom_ ok
19:14 protorom_ all clear
19:14 protorom_ and I need another coffee already
19:20 dmq ask for a karl.
19:47 dalek rakudo: d4c266b | pmichaud++ | src/parser/actions.pm:
19:47 dalek rakudo: Revert "Fix exception handlers to not catch control exceptions."
19:47 dalek rakudo: This reverts commit 9e24621747a6160d6907af30ac2222fc784416f2,
19:47 dalek rakudo: which was causing numerous spectests to fail.
19:47 dalek rakudo: review: http://github.com/rakudo/rakudo/commit/d​4c266ba9072844956b662bf5a3271fe761f6337
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20:43 sjn jonathan: Are you up for extending your "Perl 6 express" talk @npw to 100 minutes? :)
20:45 pmichaud how long are my talks?
20:45 * pmichaud checks the schedule
20:46 pmichaud 90 mins, okay.
20:46 sjn pmichaud: 90 minutes now :)
20:46 sjn there's an extra 10 minutes for you too, if you want
20:46 pmichaud well, my parrot compiler toolkit talk is only 45 mins -- it could easily be 100 :-P
20:46 pmichaud but yes, hearing more about Perl 6 would be excellent.  If jonathan doesn't want a 100 minute talk, I'll be glad to do a talk after his :-)
20:47 sjn oh, you guys both get 100 minutes :)
20:47 sjn Jonathan on thursday, you on friday
20:47 pmichaud anyway, I think jonathan is traveling this weekend so I'm not sure when he'll see your message
20:48 sjn ok
20:48 pmichaud but between he and I I'm sure we can fill whatever time you want filled :-P
20:48 sjn :D
20:49 pmichaud also, the March release of Rakudo is now "Oslo"
20:49 pmichaud I'm thinking of giving each .pm group a chance to include a couple of sentences about the group at the bottom of the rakudo release announcement
20:49 pmichaud i.e., whatever the group would like to highlight
20:50 sjn yeah, saw your release guide file (krunen showed it to me)
20:51 sjn what kind of message would be appropriate there?
20:51 sjn Gratuitous self-gratulations?
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20:52 pmichaud I'll come up with an example.
20:52 pmichaud (and send it to you or whoever you designate :-)
20:55 pmichaud but I'm thinking of something like:   "About Pittsburgh.pm:  Pittsburgh.pm hosted the first Yet Another Perl Conference in 19100 and regularly holds Perl Workshops."  or "DFW.pm is Patrick Michaud's home Perl Monger's group"  or the like.
20:56 sjn Aah
20:56 pmichaud I'll undoubtedly have a draft release announcement ready a few days before the relese.
20:56 pmichaud release.
20:56 purl NO! it will ESCAPE and leave behind a bloddy trail of QA
20:57 sjn "Oslo.pm's claim to fame is that they only manage to do something seldomly."
20:58 krunen Says the author of Acme::Godot...
20:58 sjn "Oslo Perl Mongers are the organizers of NPW'09, and have no clue how the conference will succeed"
20:58 sjn :-P
20:59 * sjn looks forward to the day Acme::Godot will come on the dependency list of another CPAN module.
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21:20 krunen Some pics from the NPW09 venue: http://www.stratos.as/bilder.php
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21:21 sjn krunen: a bit early for that. :-P
21:30 dalek rakudo: 0bb4da5 | pmichaud++ | src/parser/grammar.pg:
21:30 dalek rakudo: Slight STD convergence -- switch "rule statement" to "token statement"
21:30 dalek rakudo: review: http://github.com/rakudo/rakudo/commit/0​bb4da56b71ae0e7a05a0fd1bc35de4ac2f10e47
21:30 shorten dalek's url is at http://xrl.us/behuy9
21:30 dalek rakudo: dd9b61c | pmichaud++ | src/parser/grammar.pg:
21:30 dalek rakudo: Some more parsing fixes.
21:30 dalek rakudo: * Parse certain keywords followed by parens as subcalls.
21:30 dalek rakudo: * change some {{-tests to use <?{{...}}> instead.
21:30 dalek rakudo: review: http://github.com/rakudo/rakudo/commit/d​d9b61c4eb703c3c2795dffdb30300e6183d1534
21:30 shorten dalek's url is at http://xrl.us/behuzb
21:48 Whiteknight Does Parrot have a way to spawn a subprocess and capture it's output into a string?
21:49 Whiteknight like the backticks in perl 5
21:55 pmichaud not as far as I know.
21:55 pmichaud it's been one of the big stumbling blocks to writing test harnesses in Parrot.
21:56 pmichaud istr that the new io system would be addressing some of that, but I don't know how far along it got.
22:03 dalek parrot: r37051 | fperrad++ | trunk/runtime/parrot/library/Math/Rand.pir:
22:03 dalek parrot: [codingstd] fix POD
22:03 dalek parrot: review: https://trac.parrot.org/parrot/changeset/37051/
22:05 Whiteknight okay
22:05 Whiteknight thanks pmichaud++
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22:06 sjn szabgab: o/
22:07 szabgab sjn, hi
22:07 sjn szabgab: did you write somthing somewhere about the Hands-on Perl 6 class at the hackathong?
22:07 sjn (oops, I mean "hackathon")
22:08 sjn although a "hackathong" seems strangely appealing :)
22:08 szabgab only about the one in Frankfurt
22:08 szabgab I'll now gather my thoughts and try to write one, maybe tomorrow
22:09 szabgab when are you going to start to promote NPW ?
22:09 sjn ok, add a link to the text on the hackathon wiki, when you're ready :)
22:09 szabgab so far I hardly saw anything
22:09 sjn szabgab: just started
22:09 sjn use.perl news item posted a few hours ago
22:10 sjn (not accepted yet)
22:10 szabgab and have you made any decision if you want to do anything with the perl 6 training ?
22:10 szabgab use it for promotion?
22:11 sjn szabgab: I think it's a good idea, and will start telling our sponsors about it :)
22:11 sjn use the perl6 training for promotion? how?
22:12 szabgab there are only limited seats (12) so those who register for NPW first should have higher chance to attend
22:12 sjn szabgab: btw, meet krunen, the Perl6-track program committe boss :)
22:12 krunen Hi
22:12 szabgab krunen, hi
22:13 krunen We have to fill those 12 seats at least...
22:13 szabgab look at it the other way,
22:13 * sjn sees little problems filling those spots.
22:14 szabgab the number of places is limited, only selected people can attend
22:15 szabgab so you can tell people to hurry up with the NPW registration and payment as only those can be accepted (to the free perl 6 training) who have already paid their NPW fee
22:15 dalek parrot: r37052 | fperrad++ | trunk (2 files):
22:15 dalek parrot: [chm] generate the full ToC
22:15 dalek parrot: review: https://trac.parrot.org/parrot/changeset/37052/
22:15 szabgab you could use that for promotion
22:16 szabgab and then you could tell people to send me an e-mail once they have paid if they want to attend the perl 6 training
22:16 pmichaud can I attend?  ;-)
22:16 szabgab have you paid ?
22:17 pmichaud I guess I can say "yes" to that.  :-)
22:17 szabgab then you can attend :-)
22:18 pmichaud I think I'm already booked, though.  :-(
22:18 szabgab at least there will be someone who knows Perl 6 ;-)
22:18 sjn :)
22:18 krunen szabgab: exactly, we'll use it like that. Have to get everybody interested, and get them to register early...
22:18 krunen And start hacking on rakudo...
22:18 * sjn is writing a sponsor email about Gabor's Perl6 tutorial
22:19 dalek parrot: r37053 | fperrad++ | trunk/lib/Parrot/Docs/Section/Parrot.pm:
22:19 dalek parrot: [doc] improve layout
22:19 dalek parrot: review: https://trac.parrot.org/parrot/changeset/37053/
22:19 rg whiteknight: the filehandle pmc does pipes
22:20 rg it's not well documented, not is it tested and it may only work on unix
22:21 szabgab sjn, it would be also nice if you could mention the test automation training I provide in your mail to the sponsors
22:25 sjn sure
22:26 sjn should I say the sponsors get a preferred spot? :)
22:26 sjn (or something like that)
22:32 sjn szabgab: how long is your course? 8 hours?
22:32 szabgab the perl 6 would be 8 hours I think
22:33 szabgab start at 9:00 or after you finish the opening of the hackathon
22:33 sjn great
22:33 szabgab and last till 17:00 or 18:00 depending on when we start
22:37 sjn mm
22:37 sjn szabgab: what should I say about the testing tutorial?
22:38 sjn should sponsors get some kind of better deal?
22:38 szabgab that it will take place, it is a rare opportunity as I come from abroad and link to the web site of oslo.pm
22:39 sjn ok..
22:39 szabgab if you feel so, we can do that
22:39 sjn I think it would be a good gesture
22:39 sjn if it's ok with you
22:40 szabgab yes but don't write anything exact
22:43 dalek parrot: r37054 | fperrad++ | trunk/lib/Parrot/Docs/Group.pm:
22:43 dalek parrot: [chm] improve ToC with the title of each file
22:43 dalek parrot: review: https://trac.parrot.org/parrot/changeset/37054/
22:45 sjn szabgab: nothing exact? hm. I was thinking of saying "you can get a priority spot, if you register before april 1st" or something like that
22:46 sjn (on that note, have anyone contacted you about the course yet?)
22:46 szabgab sjn, oh I thought you want to give them a discount on the testing training
22:46 szabgab and I did not want you to say any number on how much
22:46 szabgab I have one student registered and paid
22:46 dalek parrot: r37055 | jkeenan++ | trunk/config/gen/makefiles/root.in:
22:46 dalek parrot: Correct syntax error reported by rg.
22:47 dalek parrot: review: https://trac.parrot.org/parrot/changeset/37055/
22:47 sjn szabgab: aah
22:47 sjn ok, that's even better
22:49 sjn I'll write that
22:49 szabgab yeah, I think you can offer them both one priority place on the perl 6 training (before apr 1) and a discount on the Test automation training
22:49 sjn excellent
22:49 sjn that's what I have written now
22:49 sjn only thing missing now is a page about the perl 6 training I can link to :)
22:50 szabgab I'll write it then now
22:50 * sjn goes afk, mail me something when you have it :)
22:50 sjn thanks! :D
22:52 szabgab then tomorrow morning only as I am falling asleep
22:54 szabgab sjn, is the schedule of the workshop already public? can I link to it?
23:00 dmq you guys back at the hotel now?
23:00 dmq hmm. guess you must be.
23:00 szabgab dmq, yes
23:00 dmq was really nice to meet up with you again.
23:00 szabgab just came back a half an hour ago
23:01 szabgab yes it was!
23:18 dalek rakudo: 36314e0 | pmichaud++ | src/parser/grammar.pg:
23:18 dalek rakudo: Refactor check for curly brace statement terminator.
23:18 dalek rakudo: review: http://github.com/rakudo/rakudo/commit/3​6314e0c34ae0695773eddbd0e317a96c816a9f0
23:18 shorten dalek's url is at http://xrl.us/behvaz
23:18 dalek rakudo: 1e22a68 | pmichaud++ | src/parser/grammar.pg:
23:18 dalek rakudo: Fix RT #57876 -- if/while/unless/for/etc on line following closing brace
23:18 dalek rakudo: review: http://github.com/rakudo/rakudo/commit/1​e22a68aa5a037513ab1fb387631893625bdce6b
23:18 shorten dalek's url is at http://xrl.us/behva3

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