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00:32 GeJ Good morning gentlemen
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00:34 japhb o/
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00:35 dalek parrot-plumage: f21af6d | japhb++ | :
00:35 dalek parrot-plumage: Snapshot: first working code in OO refactor
00:35 dalek parrot-plumage: review: http://gitorious.org/parrot-plumage/parrot-plumag​e/commit/f21af6d43db13e0c9950da29975bb199e14cd829
00:35 dalek parrot-plumage: 7ecd658 | japhb++ | :
00:36 dalek parrot-plumage: Move get_project_list() to Plumage::Metadata as a class method, and swit...
00:36 dalek parrot-plumage: review: http://gitorious.org/parrot-plumage/parrot-plumag​e/commit/7ecd65818962ab1c3242c10dc87e55634a551dc1
00:36 dalek parrot-plumage: 9332387 | japhb++ | :
00:36 dalek parrot-plumage: Switch to Plumage::Metadata, part 2
00:36 dalek parrot-plumage: review: http://gitorious.org/parrot-plumage/parrot-plumag​e/commit/9332387ec6ad7c03152c73f1e4417d929113bbec
00:36 dalek parrot-plumage: 7c4222f | japhb++ | :
00:36 dalek parrot-plumage: [LIB] Plumage::Metadata: Reorganize; document; clean up try() usage; imp...
00:36 dalek parrot-plumage: review: http://gitorious.org/parrot-plumage/parrot-plumag​e/commit/7c4222f99c1fca95633f51708754e7d6ec747b57
00:36 dalek parrot-plumage: d42b385 | japhb++ | :
00:36 dalek parrot-plumage: [plumage] Stop loading old Metadata.pbc
00:36 dalek parrot-plumage: review: http://gitorious.org/parrot-plumage/parrot-plumag​e/commit/d42b3850b05cc10e4423c6069b5ab85d55371661
00:36 dalek parrot-plumage: 575fcb7 | japhb++ | :
00:36 dalek parrot-plumage: Remove now unused src/lib/Metadata.nqp
00:36 dalek parrot-plumage: review: http://gitorious.org/parrot-plumage/parrot-plumag​e/commit/575fcb761832da09d39849848259b3eb588fbd36
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00:44 cotto hi GeJ
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01:42 dalek parrot-plumage: e187704 | japhb++ | :
01:42 dalek parrot-plumage: [BUILD] Stop depending on src/lib/Metadata.pbc
01:42 dalek parrot-plumage: review: http://gitorious.org/parrot-plumage/parrot-plumag​e/commit/e187704dc6044be1075ba2744370f1390f075e21
01:51 cotto There's nothing like ignoring your own code for a couple months to show you where it needs more comments.
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02:12 cotto btw, japhb++ again for those improvements
02:18 dalek parrot: r42776 | cotto++ | trunk/tools/dev/pprof2cg.pl:
02:18 dalek parrot: [pprof2cg] various documentation improvements, mostly comments and variable name changes
02:18 dalek parrot: review: https://trac.parrot.org/parrot/changeset/42776/
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03:18 dalek TT #1325 created by jkeenan++: src/frame_builder.c: Parrot_jit_build_call_func() needs work
03:20 dalek parrot: r42777 | jkeenan++ | trunk/src/frame_builder.c:
03:20 dalek parrot: Add barebones Pod DESCRIPTION.  Note newly created TT to track FIXME comments.
03:20 dalek parrot: review: https://trac.parrot.org/parrot/changeset/42777/
03:24 dalek parrot: r42778 | jkeenan++ | trunk/src (9 files):
03:24 dalek parrot: Add content to Pod DESCRIPTION (or make sure that DESCRIPTION passes codingstd test).
03:24 dalek parrot: review: https://trac.parrot.org/parrot/changeset/42778/
03:31 dalek parrot: r42779 | jkeenan++ | trunk/src/call (5 files):
03:31 dalek parrot: Add content to Pod DESCRIPTION (or make sure that DESCRIPTION passes codingstd test).
03:31 dalek parrot: review: https://trac.parrot.org/parrot/changeset/42779/
03:50 dalek parrot: r42780 | jkeenan++ | trunk/lib/Parrot/Test/Pod.pm:
03:50 dalek parrot: Add documentation for new().
03:50 dalek parrot: review: https://trac.parrot.org/parrot/changeset/42780/
03:50 dalek parrot: r42781 | jkeenan++ | trunk/lib/Parrot/Test (2 files):
03:50 dalek parrot: Add content to Pod DESCRIPTION (or make sure that DESCRIPTION passes codingstd test).
03:50 dalek parrot: review: https://trac.parrot.org/parrot/changeset/42781/
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03:54 kthakore hi folks
03:54 kthakore can some one fix the link here
03:54 kthakore
03:54 kthakore http://www.parrot.org/news/2009/Parrot-1.8.0
03:55 kthakore the  'our source code repository'
03:55 kthakore is pointing to http://www.parrot.org/news/2009/%5C%22h​ttps://svn.parrot.org/parrot/trunk/%22
03:55 kthakore regards great work on 1.8
03:57 dalek parrot: r42782 | jkeenan++ | trunk/lib/Parrot/Pmc2c/Attribute.pm:
03:57 dalek parrot: Add documentation.
03:57 dalek parrot: review: https://trac.parrot.org/parrot/changeset/42782/
03:58 cotto kthakore, thanks
03:58 kthakore cotto: np
04:01 kthakore cotto: are there more newbie ticket then the one in pmc2c?
04:02 cotto Yes, but they're not labeled.
04:03 cotto Is there anything in particular you'd like to work on?
04:04 kthakore cotto: c stuff ... I want to start learning NCI
04:04 kthakore cotto: but baby steps ??
04:04 purl baby steps! baby steps!
04:07 cotto I'm chasing down the bug that caused the broken html.  I'll look for a good newbie task after that.
04:08 kthakore cotto: np I am on trac so just attach it to me
04:08 kthakore cotto: I am going to sleep for now ... will tackle it later
04:08 kthakore cotto: thank you for helping :)
04:11 kthakore cotto: may I ask .... but what is parrot's (pir) performance to perl5 ?
04:13 kthakore cotto: well what ever good night
04:13 cotto kthakore, it doesn't really make sense to compare them since PIR isn't targeted at the same niche as Perl 5.
04:14 cotto also, crow.pir is br0ken
04:14 cotto actually, I need to try it with an installed parrot
04:17 cotto Hmm.  It works with installed, but I'd expect it to be fine without too.
04:17 cotto just kidding.  It's broken.
04:20 dalek parrot: r42783 | jkeenan++ | trunk/lib/Parrot/Pmc2c (8 files):
04:20 dalek parrot: Add content to Pod DESCRIPTION (or make sure that DESCRIPTION passes codingstd test).
04:20 dalek parrot: review: https://trac.parrot.org/parrot/changeset/42783/
04:27 dalek parrot: r42784 | jkeenan++ | trunk/docs/project (2 files):
04:27 dalek parrot: Make sure POD files have correctly named DESCRIPTION section.
04:27 dalek parrot: review: https://trac.parrot.org/parrot/changeset/42784/
04:32 kthakore cotto oh ok
04:34 kthakore cotto um ... so how can i learn about parrot internals?
04:34 kthakore like how to hook c into parrot?
04:38 cotto src/extend.c and t/src/extend.t would be good places to start.
04:39 cotto t/pmc/nci.t too
04:40 cotto Is that what you're trying to get into?
04:41 cotto pcc was recently overhauled
04:42 cotto https://trac.parrot.org/parrot/​wiki/CallingConventionsOverview
04:48 japhb pmichaud, I asked this earlier, but I think you were afk ... is there any way to make the following work in NQP?
04:48 japhb class Foo { method foo () { my $method := "bar"; self."$method"(); };  method bar () { say("Hello from method bar"); } }; my $o := Foo.new; $o.foo;
04:49 japhb If you replace "$method" with bar , it works.
04:49 japhb But I need to invoke a method by calculated name.
04:50 japhb Looking through the code to P6object.pir, I didn't see anything obvious there, either.  I'm thinking I have to fall back to raw PIR?
04:59 japhb pmichaud, It also blew up when I tried using PIR just to get the method PMC as follows:
04:59 japhb my $method := "bar"; my $meth := pir::find_method__PPs(self, $method); self.$meth();
05:00 japhb (that's just swapping out the code in method foo () {...} )
05:14 cotto kthakore, is that what you're looking for?
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05:27 japhb purl, msg pmichaud I've updated http://wiki.github.com/per​l6/nqp-rx/plumage-requests and reorganized it a bit to put still-requested features roughly in order of Plumage's urgency to have them.
05:27 purl Message for pmichaud stored.
05:36 dalek parrot-plumage: ad797bd | japhb++ | :
05:36 dalek parrot-plumage: [METADATA] Add lua and lua-batteries metadata, fperrad++
05:36 dalek parrot-plumage: review: http://gitorious.org/parrot-plumage/parrot-plumag​e/commit/ad797bd03fcab88063a0a987312637704713d6bc
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07:44 dalek parrot-plumage: fc01d18 | japhb++ | :
07:44 dalek parrot-plumage: [CORE] Glue.pir: Add is_dir()
07:44 dalek parrot-plumage: review: http://gitorious.org/parrot-plumage/parrot-plumag​e/commit/fc01d186ace6e5820bb58818b3cbff94d3ffd572
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08:00 dalek parrot-plumage: c8a8941 | japhb++ | :
08:00 dalek parrot-plumage: OO refactor phase 2: Plumage::Project first working code
08:00 dalek parrot-plumage: review: http://gitorious.org/parrot-plumage/parrot-plumag​e/commit/c8a8941512b82c9d31a6e2fdcd4352673f2b4147
08:00 dalek parrot-plumage: a702b02 | japhb++ | :
08:00 dalek parrot-plumage: Remove action-related code and data from plumage.nqp; fixup Plumage::Met...
08:00 dalek parrot-plumage: review: http://gitorious.org/parrot-plumage/parrot-plumag​e/commit/a702b02e3eeb529bc28be7682ac68e32121c0ca6
08:00 cotto Is there a nice way to exit a nqp for loop early?
08:05 pmichaud not yet, although 'next' and 'last' may be implemented soon.
08:06 dalek parrot-plumage: 478a3dc | japhb++ | :
08:06 dalek parrot-plumage: [LIB] Plumage::Project: Add perform_actions method to SYNOPSIS; module s...
08:06 dalek parrot-plumage: review: http://gitorious.org/parrot-plumage/parrot-plumag​e/commit/478a3dc05ff3b5e628f8c31877618a256332bc9f
08:06 japhb pmichaud, ah, that would be nice!
08:06 pmichaud NQP doesn't understand variable method names yet
08:06 japhb pmichaud, yeah, I figured.
08:07 japhb I've got a wantonly ugly hack of embedded PIR code to work around it.
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08:28 dalek parrot-plumage: 261b10a | japhb++ | :
08:28 dalek parrot-plumage: [LIB] $o._method_exists($m) -> $o.HOW.can($o, $m)
08:28 dalek parrot-plumage: review: http://gitorious.org/parrot-plumage/parrot-plumag​e/commit/261b10a98fb1e65fa922ef3a032fa587c33da700
08:31 japhb I think that's all I've got for tonight.  Goodnight, all.
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08:49 dalek parrot: r42785 | fperrad++ | trunk/runtime/parrot/library/distutils.pir:
08:49 dalek parrot: [distutils] clean up inno script
08:49 dalek parrot: review: https://trac.parrot.org/parrot/changeset/42785/
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09:55 dalek parrot: r42786 | pmichaud++ | trunk/compilers/pct/src (2 files):
09:55 dalek parrot: [pct]:  Make compiler options more readily available to compilers.
09:55 dalek parrot: Add handling for 'outer_ctx' option.
09:55 dalek parrot: review: https://trac.parrot.org/parrot/changeset/42786/
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10:52 mikehh What has happened to operator etc. privileges in the channel
11:13 mikehh is parrot.org down?
11:15 Infinoid mikehh++ for noticing
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11:29 mikehh All tests PASS (pre/post-config, smoke (#30111), fulltest) at r42786 - Ubuntu 9.10 amd64 (g++ with --optimize)
11:40 dalek winxed: r197 | julian.notfound++ | trunk/winxed.winxed:
11:40 dalek winxed: delete generated pir file after running it
11:40 dalek winxed: review: http://code.google.com/p/w​inxed/source/detail?r=197
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12:10 dalek winxed: r198 | julian.notfound++ | trunk/winxed.winxed:
12:10 dalek winxed: implement --target option in compiler driver
12:10 dalek winxed: review: http://code.google.com/p/w​inxed/source/detail?r=198
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12:29 dalek winxed: r199 | julian.notfound++ | trunk/README:
12:29 dalek winxed: update and improve README
12:29 dalek winxed: review: http://code.google.com/p/w​inxed/source/detail?r=199
12:44 dalek winxed: r200 | julian.notfound++ | trunk/winxedst0.cpp:
12:44 dalek winxed: use a macro to conditionally compile platform dependant features of the stage 0
12:44 dalek winxed: compiler, first step towards dropping them
12:44 dalek winxed: review: http://code.google.com/p/w​inxed/source/detail?r=200
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13:34 dalek parrot: r42787 | NotFound++ | trunk/t/pmc/arrayiterator.t:
13:34 dalek parrot: [t] a few more test for ArrayIterator
13:34 dalek parrot: review: https://trac.parrot.org/parrot/changeset/42787/
13:39 mikehh All tests PASS (pre/post-config, smoke (#30117), fulltest) at r42786 - Ubuntu 9.10 amd64 (gcc with --optimize)
13:47 dalek parrot: r42788 | barney++ | trunk/docs/project/release_manager_guide.pod:
13:47 dalek parrot: Added the mailing list 'parrot-users'.
13:47 dalek parrot: review: https://trac.parrot.org/parrot/changeset/42788/
13:58 dalek TT #1326 created by barney++: crow.pir is broken
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14:07 dalek nqp-rx: 23bb989 | pmichaud++ |  (3 files):
14:07 dalek nqp-rx: Add $obj."method"(...) syntax.
14:07 dalek nqp-rx: review: http://github.com/perl6/nqp-rx/commit/2​3bb989c13fcf4ab59c29d8fdabc13d253466e7b
14:07 dalek nqp-rx: 9f7db2e | pmichaud++ | src/stage0/ (3 files):
14:07 dalek nqp-rx: Update bootstrap.
14:07 dalek nqp-rx: review: http://github.com/perl6/nqp-rx/commit/9​f7db2e9f20f69d58c9f6325ec3ca60612f62381
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14:12 dalek parrot: r42789 | pmichaud++ | failed to fetch changeset:
14:12 dalek parrot: [nqp]:  Add $obj."method"() syntax.
14:12 dalek parrot: review: https://trac.parrot.org/parrot/changeset/42789/
14:13 kthakore cotto_w0rk: ya that should be fine ... i will look onto pcc deprecratrd functions
14:14 kthakore k later
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15:22 dalek parrot: r42790 | fperrad++ | trunk/runtime/parrot/library/distutils.pir:
15:22 dalek parrot: [distutils] 'win32-inno-installer' depends on 'build', and more clean up
15:22 dalek parrot: review: https://trac.parrot.org/parrot/changeset/42790/
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15:52 dalek nqp-rx: da4d6f4 | pmichaud++ | src/ (2 files):
15:52 dalek nqp-rx: Refactor regex creation a bit.
15:52 dalek nqp-rx: review: http://github.com/perl6/nqp-rx/commit/d​a4d6f4aa955bb8613e5303a366b9f9d74133e43
15:52 dalek nqp-rx: c4b8abd | pmichaud++ | src/stage0/ (3 files):
15:52 dalek nqp-rx: Update bootstraps.
15:52 dalek nqp-rx: review: http://github.com/perl6/nqp-rx/commit/c​4b8abdb12ab4163bc954c0db284aecaeacec8e7
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16:36 dalek parrot: r42791 | pmichaud++ | failed to fetch changeset:
16:36 dalek parrot: [nqp]:  Update with regex sub refactors.
16:36 dalek parrot: review: https://trac.parrot.org/parrot/changeset/42791/
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17:34 cotto good morning
17:34 cotto .o0( I love the sound of no purl in the morning. )
17:35 cconstantine 'mornin
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18:14 cconstantine I'm attempting to build an abstract syntax tree of my own with PCT instead of using the PAST Nodes.  http://github.com/cconstantine/Reason
18:15 cconstantine I'd like to ahve a tree made up of my 'cons' type, but I appear to still have a tree of PCT types
18:16 moritz you do create PAST types
18:17 moritz line 50 in actions.pm for example
18:18 cconstantine as the leaf nodes
18:19 cconstantine held together in a tree made of 'cons' objects
18:19 cconstantine but I don't know what happens to the cons objects I create in the expr method
18:22 * moritz can't build Reason
18:22 moritz /nocrypt-home/moritz/source/parrot-all/parrot  -o reason.pbc reason.pir
18:22 moritz error:imcc::opt_flag parameter must be of type 'I', not 'pmc' in file 'src/builtins/library.pir' line 29
18:22 cconstantine bah
18:23 moritz there's an easy fix
18:23 moritz s/pmc/int/ in line 28 of src/builtins/library.pir
18:24 moritz note that the error message is off-by-one
18:24 cconstantine try again
18:25 moritz heh, that's cheating :-)
18:25 moritz $ >./reason
18:25 moritz "load_bytecode" couldn't find file '../../runtime/parrot/library/dumper.pir'
18:26 cconstantine oh, that's where dumper is on my machine...
18:26 cconstantine I don't know how to reference it properly
18:26 moritz it's in $prefix_dir/lib/$parrot_vers​ion/library/dumper.{pir,pbc}
18:27 cconstantine can I put that direclty in?
18:27 moritz nope
18:27 moritz let me see if I can steal something from rakudo's Makefile...
18:30 moritz cconstantine: changing line 38 in reason.pir to load_bytecode 'dumper.pir' works for me
18:30 moritz (with an installed parrot)
18:30 cconstantine ok
18:30 cconstantine me too evidently
18:31 moritz cconstantine: not sure if that's the explanation, but it seems you're using the PCT dumper...
18:32 moritz maybe that doesn't know how to dump non-PCT types?
18:32 cconstantine then shouldn't we see 'unknown type' or somesuch from _dumper?
18:33 moritz maybe
18:33 cconstantine yeah, when I explicitly dump a list I get ""list" => PMC 'cons' { ... }"
18:36 cconstantine update again to see it
18:41 moritz I did change method TOP to read
18:41 cconstantine which brings up another question; how do I have the 'cons' type be dumpable... but that's a minor issue
18:41 moritz ... make parse_list(@some_array)
18:41 moritz and I still get "source" => PMC 'Reason;Grammar' => ...
18:42 cconstantine @some_array?
18:42 moritz my @some_array; @some_array.push(1); make parrse_list(@soem_array);
18:42 cconstantine ah
18:42 cconstantine you can also just do 'make list(1, 2, 3)' or somesuch
18:43 cconstantine anyway, yeah... I always seem to end up with a 'Reason;Grammar' object
18:45 moritz no idea what's wrong; maybe pmichaud knows
18:45 cconstantine ok.  thanks for looking
18:45 moritz you're welcome
18:46 moritz I also learned things along the way :-)
18:49 cconstantine good :)
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20:00 dalek winxed: r201 | julian.notfound++ | trunk/examples/parser.winxed:
20:00 dalek winxed: first step to float in parser example
20:00 dalek winxed: review: http://code.google.com/p/w​inxed/source/detail?r=201
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21:04 cotto So far, the incomplete version of pprof2cg.nqp takes about 9:00 where the perl version takes 1:33.
21:04 cotto Maybe I should just add a "G" to the front and pretend it's on purpose.
21:05 dalek parrot: r42792 | pmichaud++ | failed to fetch changeset:
21:05 dalek parrot: [nqp]:  Update with regexes that support :p(os) and :c(ontinue).
21:05 dalek parrot: review: https://trac.parrot.org/parrot/changeset/42792/
21:09 dalek tracwiki: v110 | fperrad++ | Languages
21:09 dalek tracwiki: update Parrot version 1.8.0 (with Plumage)
21:09 dalek tracwiki: https://trac.parrot.org/parrot/wiki/L​anguages?version=110&action=diff
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21:24 dalek nqp-rx: 19d5ef4 | pmichaud++ |  (3 files):
21:24 dalek nqp-rx: Convert 'from' to 'p'  (:p/:pos).
21:24 dalek nqp-rx: review: http://github.com/perl6/nqp-rx/commit/1​9d5ef4aecf75c609608dc027d7a00c5f57b222f
21:24 dalek nqp-rx: ba1f213 | pmichaud++ |  (7 files):
21:24 dalek nqp-rx: Add 'c'ontinue option to regexes.
21:24 dalek nqp-rx: review: http://github.com/perl6/nqp-rx/commit/b​a1f213517efc4d8f3a72603a0d4f4fef5d3cc64
21:24 dalek nqp-rx: e395215 | pmichaud++ | src/Regex/Cursor.pir:
21:24 dalek nqp-rx: Change check for :rule type.
21:24 dalek nqp-rx: review: http://github.com/perl6/nqp-rx/commit/e​3952157db2b4641aa083e171d19e2c599ae7f11
21:24 dalek nqp-rx: 88e6e26 | pmichaud++ | src/stage0/ (4 files):
21:24 dalek nqp-rx: Update bootstrap.
21:24 dalek nqp-rx: review: http://github.com/perl6/nqp-rx/commit/8​8e6e26b4d13c96b3ef1183aacf4b68d28856a0f
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21:48 dalek parrot: r42793 | pmichaud++ | trunk/ext/nqp-rx/src/stage0 (4 files):
21:48 dalek parrot: [nqp] Update bootstrap with :rule(Code) fix.
21:48 dalek parrot: review: https://trac.parrot.org/parrot/changeset/42793/
22:06 dalek TT #1314 closed by dukeleto++: open opcode returns true instead of returning an exception
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23:24 dalek nqp-rx: a10da9f | moritz++ | src/Regex/P6Regex/Grammar.pm:
23:24 dalek nqp-rx: add a space to the "Obsolote use" error message
23:25 dalek nqp-rx: review: http://github.com/perl6/nqp-rx/commit/a​10da9f25ef58cde73a4271e371d7956e3bf6b86
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23:50 lithos hello everyone! as suggested on #parrot I made an attempt of summarizing parrot and perl 6 things
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23:50 moritz cool
23:50 cconstantine sounds like a noble goal
23:50 lithos here is my first try: http://lith-ology.blogspot.com/
23:52 moritz lithos++
23:52 moritz very good
23:55 lithos should i allow anonymous comments or will i get spammed then? I have no experience blogging so any advice is welcome
23:55 moritz anonymous comments will be spammy
23:55 moritz but you might allow OpenID-verified ones
23:56 NotFound lithos++
23:58 lithos i understand that OpenID-ones are allowed
23:58 lithos i did not change the default setting

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