| Time |
S |
Nick |
Message |
| 00:00 |
|
dukeleto |
cotto_work: perhaps git for-each-ref would help you |
| 00:01 |
|
|
Paul_the_Greek left #parrot |
| 00:01 |
|
dukeleto |
cotto_work: take a look at https://rails.wincent.com/wiki[…]positories_to_Git and http://github.com/nothingmuch/[…]-abandon-fix-refs |
| 00:01 |
|
|
Psyche^ joined #parrot |
| 00:01 |
|
dukeleto |
cotto_work: or you can just parse the output of "git branch" |
| 00:02 |
|
dukeleto |
cotto_work: and do a git log on each branch |
| 00:02 |
|
cotto_work |
Great! I'll play with those when I get home. |
| 00:02 |
|
dukeleto |
cotto_work: you would want something like "git log -p master and then git log -p master...branch" |
| 00:03 |
|
cotto_work |
git++ |
| 00:03 |
|
dukeleto |
the ... makes a "commitish" |
| 00:03 |
|
cotto_work |
rebase ftw |
| 00:03 |
|
|
masak left #parrot |
| 00:03 |
|
* dukeleto |
goes for a run |
| 00:03 |
|
dukeleto |
cotto_work: good luck |
| 00:03 |
|
purl |
You'll need it. |
| 00:03 |
|
cotto_work |
purl, go play in traffic |
| 00:03 |
|
* purl |
wanders off to dent some cars. |
| 00:03 |
|
cotto_work |
dukeleto: don't ;) |
| 00:06 |
|
|
Patterner left #parrot |
| 00:06 |
|
|
Psyche^ is now known as Patterner |
| 00:07 |
|
dalek |
parrot: r48647 | jkeenan++ | branches/tt677_toolsdirs/t (3 files): |
| 00:07 |
|
dalek |
parrot: Correct construction of paths to programs inside corresponding test files. |
| 00:07 |
|
dalek |
parrot: review: http://trac.parrot.org/parrot/changeset/48647/ |
| 00:14 |
|
|
davidfetter left #parrot |
| 00:15 |
|
* cotto_work |
goes home |
| 00:18 |
|
|
nwellnhof left #parrot |
| 00:24 |
|
|
SingAlong left #parrot |
| 00:25 |
|
|
SingAlong joined #parrot |
| 00:32 |
|
|
kid51 is now known as kid51_at_dinner |
| 00:40 |
|
dalek |
parrot: r48648 | jkeenan++ | branches/tt677_toolsdirs/config/gen/makefiles/root.in: |
| 00:40 |
|
dalek |
parrot: Use 'make' variable $DEV_TOOLS_DIR throughout in place of tools/dev. |
| 00:40 |
|
dalek |
parrot: review: http://trac.parrot.org/parrot/changeset/48648/ |
| 00:55 |
|
|
dduncan joined #parrot |
| 00:56 |
|
|
dduncan left #parrot |
| 00:56 |
|
|
Patterner left #parrot |
| 01:00 |
|
|
Paul_the_Greek joined #parrot |
| 01:00 |
|
Paul_the_Greek |
Evening, kids. |
| 01:01 |
|
whiteknight |
hello Paul_the_Greek |
| 01:01 |
|
Paul_the_Greek |
Hey there whiteknight. |
| 01:05 |
|
Coke |
HEEEYYYYY YOOOOOU GUUUUYS! |
| 01:05 |
|
Paul_the_Greek |
Coke! |
| 01:06 |
|
|
Psyche^ joined #parrot |
| 01:06 |
|
|
Psyche^ is now known as Patterner |
| 01:09 |
|
Coke |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KC2lrcyNtx8 (hey you guys) |
| 01:10 |
|
Coke |
msg plobsing Nope, I can't duplicate it either, thanks, closed. |
| 01:10 |
|
purl |
Message for plobsing stored. |
| 01:11 |
|
Coke |
plobsing++ |
| 01:20 |
|
|
Paul_the_Greek left #parrot |
| 01:20 |
|
dalek |
partcl-nqp: 1d99ca5 | coke++ | / (3 files): |
| 01:20 |
|
dalek |
partcl-nqp: Add do-nothing stub for [encoding] |
| 01:20 |
|
dalek |
partcl-nqp: review: http://github.com/partcl/partc[…]db15d6a5cbdf95d2f |
| 01:20 |
|
dalek |
partcl-nqp: 1f33ddf | coke++ | t/tcl_var_subst.t: |
| 01:20 |
|
dalek |
partcl-nqp: untodo passing test. |
| 01:20 |
|
dalek |
partcl-nqp: review: http://github.com/partcl/partc[…]0b7e55b0516e86aea |
| 01:20 |
|
dalek |
partcl-nqp: a2ef165 | coke++ | src/Partcl/Actions.pm: |
| 01:20 |
|
dalek |
partcl-nqp: make $::foo always refer to the top level HLL ns. |
| 01:20 |
|
dalek |
partcl-nqp: pmichaud++ |
| 01:20 |
|
dalek |
partcl-nqp: review: http://github.com/partcl/partc[…]007a954607551ef53 |
| 01:20 |
|
dalek |
partcl-nqp: 799f0e7 | coke++ | src/Partcl/commands/file.pm: |
| 01:21 |
|
dalek |
partcl-nqp: Avoid walking off the ends of strings and arrays. |
| 01:21 |
|
dalek |
partcl-nqp: review: http://github.com/partcl/partc[…]cc9ba35e0045b6f01 |
| 01:21 |
|
dalek |
partcl-nqp: f79d43a | coke++ | / (3 files): |
| 01:21 |
|
dalek |
partcl-nqp: implement "in" and "ni" operators. |
| 01:21 |
|
dalek |
partcl-nqp: moritz++ |
| 01:21 |
|
dalek |
partcl-nqp: review: http://github.com/partcl/partc[…]8df6e546a7bb7a150 |
| 01:24 |
|
dalek |
TT #1459 closed by coke++: missing dep on parrot_config |
| 01:24 |
|
dalek |
TT #1459 : http://trac.parrot.org/parrot/ticket/1459 |
| 01:27 |
|
|
kid51_at_dinner is now known as kid51 |
| 01:37 |
|
cotto |
comcast-- |
| 01:38 |
|
cotto |
If I wanted random newsletters, I'd sign myself up for them. |
| 01:39 |
|
|
whiteknight left #parrot |
| 01:45 |
|
|
rurban_ joined #parrot |
| 01:49 |
|
|
rurban left #parrot |
| 01:49 |
|
|
rurban_ is now known as rurban |
| 02:15 |
|
* Coke |
digs the new ceelo video. |
| 02:16 |
|
Coke |
andy++'s protests aside. ;) |
| 02:25 |
|
kid51 |
cotto Can you take a look at http://trac.parrot.org/parrot/ticket/865 ? It may now be closable. |
| 02:25 |
|
cotto |
sure |
| 02:26 |
|
|
SingAlong left #parrot |
| 02:36 |
|
|
janus left #parrot |
| 02:42 |
|
|
janus joined #parrot |
| 02:48 |
|
dalek |
TT #1725 closed by jkeenan++: tools/build/headerizer.pl: documentation is confusing |
| 02:48 |
|
dalek |
TT #1725 : http://trac.parrot.org/parrot/ticket/1725 |
| 02:48 |
|
dalek |
TT #1255 closed by jkeenan++: fix PARROT_EXPORT visibility=default for gcc other than 4.x |
| 02:48 |
|
dalek |
TT #1255 : http://trac.parrot.org/parrot/ticket/1255 |
| 02:52 |
|
cotto |
kid51, would it make sense to make that configure step fatal? |
| 02:53 |
|
dalek |
partcl-nqp: a5b7f74 | coke++ | / (2 files): |
| 02:53 |
|
dalek |
partcl-nqp: implement basic 2-arg rename. |
| 02:53 |
|
dalek |
partcl-nqp: review: http://github.com/partcl/partc[…]b7321ab24cd136294 |
| 02:53 |
|
dalek |
partcl-nqp: 70d0cf1 | coke++ | src/Partcl/commands/namespace.pm: |
| 02:53 |
|
dalek |
partcl-nqp: Provide a few variants on getting the ns (actual Namespace, array of elements, or a canonical tcl string.) |
| 02:53 |
|
dalek |
partcl-nqp: review: http://github.com/partcl/partc[…]afbe62cca918633e8 |
| 02:53 |
|
|
tetragon left #parrot |
| 02:53 |
|
|
Topic for #parrot is now Parrot 2.7.0 "Australian King" Released! | parrot.org Log: irclog.perlgeek.de/parrot/today | Nopaste: nopaste.snit.ch:8001 | close 20 tickets (18 to go), merge outstanding branches, help NotFound clean up PBC tests |
| 02:54 |
|
cotto |
apart from that, that change addresses the ticket nicely. kid51++ |
| 03:10 |
|
kid51 |
cotto: I think our stance has always been that if a user wants to make a particular configure step(s) fatal, user can do so with --fatal-step option. |
| 03:10 |
|
kid51 |
But, by default, configure tries to go as far as it can and then prints out results for user to decide. |
| 03:11 |
|
* kid51 |
must sleep |
| 03:11 |
|
purl |
Sleep is for the weak. |
| 03:11 |
|
|
kid51 left #parrot |
| 03:24 |
|
|
Topic for #parrot is now Parrot 2.7.0 "Australian King" Released! | parrot.org Log: irclog.perlgeek.de/parrot/today | Nopaste: nopaste.snit.ch:8001 | close 20 tickets (17 to go), merge outstanding branches, help NotFound clean up PBC tests |
| 03:39 |
|
dalek |
TT #865 closed by cotto++: extra .pmc files in src/pmc cause silent pbc compatibility breaks |
| 03:39 |
|
dalek |
TT #865 : http://trac.parrot.org/parrot/ticket/865 |
| 04:33 |
|
cotto |
it's quiet again |
| 04:34 |
|
cotto |
clearly everyone's so busy and engrossed hacking on some Parrot-related thing that they're ignoring irc. |
| 04:34 |
|
cotto |
I'd better not provide further distraction. |
| 04:38 |
|
plobsing |
damn, too late |
| 04:38 |
|
* tcurtis |
isn't doing anything substantial. |
| 04:51 |
|
dalek |
parrot: r48649 | plobsing++ | trunk (2 files): |
| 04:51 |
|
dalek |
parrot: convert pbc_to_exe over to Getopt;Obj to facilitate adding new options |
| 04:51 |
|
purl |
I don't know how to convert pbc_to_exe over to Getopt;Obj to facilitate adding new options. |
| 04:51 |
|
dalek |
parrot: possibly assists with TT #1398 and TT #1653 |
| 04:51 |
|
dalek |
parrot: review: http://trac.parrot.org/parrot/changeset/48649/ |
| 05:01 |
|
cotto |
too late? |
| 05:02 |
|
plobsing |
too late to avoid distraction |
| 05:06 |
|
dalek |
nqp-rx: e71d569 | bacek++ | / (2 files): |
| 05:06 |
|
dalek |
nqp-rx: Use @a.push form instead of pir::push |
| 05:06 |
|
dalek |
nqp-rx: review: http://github.com/perl6/nqp-rx[…]f7aaafd5fb7e0067f |
| 05:09 |
|
|
plobsing left #parrot |
| 05:18 |
|
|
tcurtis left #parrot |
| 06:04 |
|
|
uniejo joined #parrot |
| 06:08 |
|
dalek |
github-trac: 6ce3f7a | ++ | github/github.py: |
| 06:08 |
|
dalek |
github-trac: add validity check to hashes wikification syntax |
| 06:08 |
|
dalek |
github-trac: review: http://github.com/cotto/github[…]1af64578ec6dd6d16 |
| 06:08 |
|
dalek |
github-trac: e430ed6 | ++ | / (2 files): |
| 06:08 |
|
dalek |
github-trac: use git log output to populate the db, add sparse documentation |
| 06:08 |
|
dalek |
github-trac: review: http://github.com/cotto/github[…]e38cbe4d48f226222 |
| 06:13 |
|
|
theory left #parrot |
| 06:24 |
|
|
fperrad joined #parrot |
| 06:29 |
|
|
aloha left #parrot |
| 06:29 |
|
|
bacek left #parrot |
| 06:31 |
|
|
aloha joined #parrot |
| 06:40 |
|
|
bacek joined #parrot |
| 06:58 |
|
dalek |
winxed: r602 | NotFound++ | trunk/winxedst1.winxed: |
| 06:58 |
|
dalek |
winxed: initial implementation of new keyed in stage 1 |
| 06:58 |
|
dalek |
winxed: review: http://code.google.com/p/winxe[…]urce/detail?r=602 |
| 07:55 |
|
|
tadzik joined #parrot |
| 08:41 |
|
dalek |
TT #1446 closed by NotFound++: Exception PMC 'clone' does not work |
| 08:41 |
|
dalek |
TT #1446 : http://trac.parrot.org/parrot/ticket/1446 |
| 08:45 |
|
dalek |
parrot: r48650 | NotFound++ | trunk/t/pmc/exception.t: |
| 08:45 |
|
dalek |
parrot: delete referece to closed ticket TT #1446 |
| 08:45 |
|
dalek |
parrot: review: http://trac.parrot.org/parrot/changeset/48650/ |
| 08:46 |
|
moritz |
fwiw, in the Perl 6 test suite I find references to closed tickets still helpful |
| 08:46 |
|
moritz |
two reasons: 1) the tickets often contain more explanation than the test itself and 2) if a test regresses, I know which ticket to re-open |
| 08:51 |
|
|
nwellnhof joined #parrot |
| 08:57 |
|
sorear |
I wonder how that will fare when there are more implementations than just Rakudo running around |
| 08:58 |
|
moritz |
we just link to other bugtrackers too |
| 09:00 |
|
|
tadzik left #parrot |
| 09:09 |
|
NotFound |
moritz: a ticket thet just says 'implement this' is not very useful |
| 09:09 |
|
moritz |
NotFound: agreed |
| 09:13 |
|
|
tadzik joined #parrot |
| 09:19 |
|
dalek |
parrot: r48651 | NotFound++ | trunk/t/pmc (2 files): |
| 09:19 |
|
dalek |
parrot: some improvement in exception/exceptionhandler tests |
| 09:19 |
|
dalek |
parrot: review: http://trac.parrot.org/parrot/changeset/48651/ |
| 09:25 |
|
|
aloha left #parrot |
| 09:27 |
|
|
bacek left #parrot |
| 09:27 |
|
|
aloha joined #parrot |
| 09:32 |
|
dalek |
TT #1712 closed by NotFound++: Packfile tests incorrectly try to read non-native packfiles. |
| 09:32 |
|
dalek |
TT #1712 : http://trac.parrot.org/parrot/ticket/1712 |
| 09:38 |
|
|
bacek joined #parrot |
| 09:43 |
|
|
lucian joined #parrot |
| 09:45 |
|
|
rurban_ joined #parrot |
| 09:49 |
|
|
rurban left #parrot |
| 09:49 |
|
|
rurban_ is now known as rurban |
| 10:21 |
|
dalek |
rakudo: 3a339ee | ++ | src/pmc/objectref_pmc.template: |
| 10:21 |
|
dalek |
rakudo: Switch objectref_pmc.template to auto_attrs. |
| 10:21 |
|
dalek |
rakudo: |
| 10:21 |
|
dalek |
rakudo: Fixes a nasty memory leak that would leak at least 3 scalars per block. |
| 10:21 |
|
dalek |
rakudo: Now a simple 'while 1 { }' loop seems not to leak anymore. |
| 10:21 |
|
dalek |
rakudo: |
| 10:21 |
|
dalek |
rakudo: Signed-off-by: Moritz Lenz <moritz faui2k3.org> |
| 10:21 |
|
dalek |
rakudo: review: http://github.com/rakudo/rakud[…]c9c689e1f5a890645 |
| 10:22 |
|
|
masak joined #parrot |
| 10:30 |
|
|
tadzik left #parrot |
| 10:31 |
|
|
bacek left #parrot |
| 10:31 |
|
|
aloha left #parrot |
| 10:37 |
|
|
aloha joined #parrot |
| 10:37 |
|
|
aloha left #parrot |
| 10:38 |
|
|
aloha joined #parrot |
| 10:38 |
|
|
aloha left #parrot |
| 10:48 |
|
|
bacek joined #parrot |
| 10:48 |
|
|
bacek left #parrot |
| 11:04 |
|
|
bacek joined #parrot |
| 11:04 |
|
|
bacek left #parrot |
| 11:05 |
|
|
aloha joined #parrot |
| 11:13 |
|
dalek |
TT #1756 created by NotFound++: distutils inst_lang fails on non-array |
| 11:13 |
|
|
aloha left #parrot |
| 11:13 |
|
dalek |
TT #1756 : http://trac.parrot.org/parrot/ticket/1756 |
| 11:21 |
|
|
bacek joined #parrot |
| 11:22 |
|
|
bacek left #parrot |
| 11:23 |
|
|
bacek joined #parrot |
| 11:23 |
|
|
bacek left #parrot |
| 11:26 |
|
|
smash joined #parrot |
| 11:26 |
|
smash |
hello everyone |
| 11:33 |
|
|
aloha joined #parrot |
| 11:33 |
|
|
aloha left #parrot |
| 11:35 |
|
|
aloha joined #parrot |
| 11:35 |
|
|
aloha left #parrot |
| 11:39 |
|
|
bacek joined #parrot |
| 11:40 |
|
|
bacek left #parrot |
| 11:43 |
|
|
fperrad_ joined #parrot |
| 11:45 |
|
|
fperrad left #parrot |
| 11:45 |
|
|
fperrad_ is now known as fperrad |
| 11:45 |
|
|
aloha joined #parrot |
| 11:46 |
|
|
aloha left #parrot |
| 11:53 |
|
|
fperrad left #parrot |
| 11:53 |
|
|
whiteknight joined #parrot |
| 11:54 |
|
|
fperrad joined #parrot |
| 12:03 |
|
|
aloha joined #parrot |
| 12:05 |
|
mikehh |
smash: ping |
| 12:06 |
|
dalek |
parrot: r48652 | nwellnhof++ | trunk/src/pmc/capture.pmc: |
| 12:06 |
|
dalek |
parrot: Make sure custom_mark flag of captures gets set in pmc_set |
| 12:06 |
|
dalek |
parrot: review: http://trac.parrot.org/parrot/changeset/48652/ |
| 12:07 |
|
|
cotto_work left #parrot |
| 12:07 |
|
|
aloha left #parrot |
| 12:11 |
|
|
rblackwe left #parrot |
| 12:11 |
|
|
rblackwe joined #parrot |
| 12:16 |
|
|
aloha joined #parrot |
| 12:16 |
|
|
aloha left #parrot |
| 12:18 |
|
|
khairul joined #parrot |
| 12:24 |
|
|
aloha joined #parrot |
| 12:32 |
|
|
aloha left #parrot |
| 12:38 |
|
|
aloha joined #parrot |
| 12:43 |
|
whiteknight |
good morning, #parrot |
| 12:45 |
|
masak |
morning, wk |
| 12:45 |
|
whiteknight |
hello masak, how are you today? |
| 12:46 |
|
masak |
I'm a bit tired, but otherwise fine. how are you? |
| 12:46 |
|
whiteknight |
same. Exactly the same |
| 12:46 |
|
smash |
mikehh: pong |
| 12:46 |
|
masak |
I thought the chai I made yesterday was weak, but my heart rythm and my failed attempts to go to sleep at 2:30 suggest otherwise... :) |
| 12:47 |
|
whiteknight |
at least you got good chai. All I got was a crying baby at 2:30 |
| 12:47 |
|
whiteknight |
chai > baby |
| 12:47 |
|
masak |
it wasn't particularly good chai. |
| 12:47 |
|
masak |
it tasted mostly of milk. |
| 12:47 |
|
whiteknight |
okay, maybe baby > chai |
| 12:48 |
|
masak |
at least the non-crying kind. |
| 12:49 |
|
nwellnhof |
masak: i made a bit of progress on #1746 |
| 12:49 |
|
masak |
nwellnhof: aye; I saw the updates to the ticket. |
| 12:49 |
|
masak |
nwellnhof: I've made some progress here as well. |
| 12:50 |
|
nwellnhof |
i got a reproducible segfault with the gcdebug runcore |
| 12:50 |
|
masak |
soudns very good. |
| 12:50 |
|
nwellnhof |
but then i hit a wall :( |
| 12:50 |
|
masak |
nwellnhof++ |
| 12:50 |
|
* moritz |
should teach the IRC logs to treat 4-digit ticket numbers as track tickets |
| 12:50 |
|
moritz |
just as it does now for TT#1746 |
| 12:50 |
|
masak |
moritz: the correct algorithm will be a sliding-window thing checking year and month against the ticket number :) |
| 12:51 |
|
moritz |
masak: or just be channel sensitive, and default to RT on #perl6, and to parrot on #parrot |
| 12:51 |
|
nwellnhof |
i think i have to leave it to someone more knowledgeable |
| 12:52 |
|
masak |
moritz: that sounds like a good idea, yes. |
| 12:53 |
|
nwellnhof |
moritz: i can also stick with TT#... |
| 12:53 |
|
nwellnhof |
moritz: but it seems that #... is also used a lot |
| 12:54 |
|
moritz |
nwellnhof: lots of people here only use #... - which is a sign that the technology should adapt to the people, not the other way round |
| 12:54 |
|
moritz |
opbots: trust nwellnhof |
| 12:54 |
|
slavorg |
Ok |
| 12:54 |
|
slavorgn |
Ok |
| 12:54 |
|
mikehh |
smash: was just wondering about PaFo voting, thought I was a member, but appears not |
| 12:55 |
|
nwellnhof |
moritz: do you handle git commit hashes in the irclogs? |
| 12:55 |
|
nwellnhof |
moritz: i imagine that's tricky |
| 12:55 |
|
smash |
mikehh: i can verify if you're in the members list, just confirm me your name |
| 12:55 |
|
moritz |
nwellnhof: no; too many git projects out there |
| 12:56 |
|
mikehh |
mikehh - Michael Hind |
| 12:56 |
|
nwellnhof |
moritz: that's one advantage of svn |
| 12:56 |
|
moritz |
if we invent a convention for it (like pg:a1b2c3 for "parrot git" or so) it's fairly easy to do |
| 12:57 |
|
nwellnhof |
moritz: maybe github has a commit hash redirection service |
| 12:58 |
|
moritz |
interesting idea |
| 12:59 |
|
smash |
mikehh: you are not a foundation member, you can apply if you want (and meet the requirements) |
| 12:59 |
|
moritz |
if mikehh needs a nomination, I can contribute one :-) |
| 13:01 |
|
mikehh |
smash: yeah - thought I was joined up after last years meeting, and AFAIK I meet the requirements |
| 13:01 |
|
whiteknight |
I hereby nominate mikehh |
| 13:02 |
|
mikehh |
smash: been committing for a year, last Release Manager |
| 13:02 |
|
* moritz |
also nominates mikehh |
| 13:02 |
|
mikehh |
whiteknight: thanks |
| 13:03 |
|
mikehh |
and moritz |
| 13:03 |
|
smash |
mikehh: ok, i'll process your apply, thks moritz++ and whiteknight++ for nominations |
| 13:04 |
|
smash |
mikehh: i'll get back to you as soon as i wrap everything up |
| 13:04 |
|
mikehh |
smash: I'll be around here for a while if you need anything |
| 13:05 |
|
smash |
mikehh: ok, thks |
| 13:06 |
|
smash |
mikehh: am i guessing correctly that you already supplied a signed CLA right ? |
| 13:08 |
|
mikehh |
smash: correct |
| 13:10 |
|
smash |
mikehh: ok |
| 13:11 |
|
mikehh |
smash: about a year or so ago |
| 13:11 |
|
dalek |
winxed: r603 | NotFound++ | trunk/setup.json: |
| 13:11 |
|
dalek |
winxed: one more little step towards install |
| 13:11 |
|
dalek |
winxed: review: http://code.google.com/p/winxe[…]urce/detail?r=603 |
| 13:16 |
|
|
uniejo left #parrot |
| 13:19 |
|
nopaste |
"NotFound" at 192.168.1.3 pasted "load_language wined works" (37 lines) at http://nopaste.snit.ch/23099 |
| 13:26 |
|
masak |
whiteknight: re http://trac.parrot.org/parrot/ticket/1746 -- I took the 2010.02 release of Rakudo and massaged it so that it could accept the patch that causes recent Rakudos to segfault. |
| 13:26 |
|
masak |
whiteknight: so what you said yesterday about Parrot releases being more stable is not only not true in this case, but very not true. |
| 13:27 |
|
masak |
I don't think I can go back further than 2010.02 -- before that there's only the old development branch of Rakudo, and I fear the differences are too big. |
| 13:27 |
|
masak |
but this segfault has been in Parrot for many months. |
| 13:27 |
|
Coke |
(configure, fata-step) I think our stance is that "no one wants to own configure so we don't talk about it" =-) - I think expecting a user to use "fatal-step" is too much of a burden on the user. I personally would like it if it a failed config step would abort the entire process. I cannot tell you how many times I've hit ^C fruitlessly while config is running to try to /make/ it stop. ;) ... but I don't want to own configure, so I will now l |
| 13:28 |
|
Coke |
Free Karma? someone rerun the faces script and update the wiki... |
| 13:28 |
|
|
fperrad_ joined #parrot |
| 13:28 |
|
Coke |
mikehh: you don't have commit bits!? |
| 13:29 |
|
Coke |
ah, you don't have member bitrs. |
| 13:29 |
|
Coke |
yah, that process is... suboptimal. |
| 13:29 |
|
smash |
Coke: we were handling his PaFo membership |
| 13:29 |
|
* NotFound |
plays 'Give a little bit' |
| 13:29 |
|
Coke |
I thought smash tried to fix that in the months leading up to voting. |
| 13:30 |
|
Coke |
smash! You're here! |
| 13:30 |
|
Coke |
smash++ mikeh++ |
| 13:30 |
|
Coke |
mikehh++ #even |
| 13:31 |
|
|
fperrad left #parrot |
| 13:31 |
|
smash |
Coke: i processed all the requests that i got |
| 13:31 |
|
|
fperrad_ is now known as fperrad |
| 13:33 |
|
Coke |
I'm sure. I wasn't saying you screwed up, I was just thinking out loud that I thought you worked on it. |
| 13:34 |
|
smash |
Coke: hehe |
| 13:35 |
|
Coke |
sorry, I know it's frustrating when you volunteer and someone says "YOU SCREWED UP", so just watned to be clear I am not saying that. ;) |
| 13:36 |
|
smash |
Coke: ah, no worries.. and pleas do can tell me that i screwed up when if i do something wrong |
| 13:36 |
|
Coke |
hulk? |
| 13:36 |
|
purl |
Hulk SMASH!!! |
| 13:36 |
|
smash |
s/pleas do can tell/please do tell/ |
| 13:36 |
|
* Coke |
wonders if he still has some issues of the hulk lying about. |
| 13:37 |
|
* Coke |
used to collect comics over 20 years ago and still has most of them in plastic in boxes. |
| 13:38 |
|
Coke |
... there's a guy at work here who does not say "you are ell", but "earl" for URLs. it's like nails on chalk. |
| 13:40 |
|
|
fperrad_ joined #parrot |
| 13:41 |
|
pmichaud |
(rakudo should only target parrot releases...) are we still suffering from that delusion that this makes any sort of difference? |
| 13:41 |
|
moritz |
well yes, dangerous branch merges are usually held off until after a release |
| 13:41 |
|
whiteknight |
pmichaud: only in the sense that targetting HEAD leads to the least stability. You can't complain about Parrot's stability if you target Parrot HEAD |
| 13:42 |
|
pmichaud |
rakudo releases never target HEAD |
| 13:42 |
|
whiteknight |
but rakudo development does track it relatively closely |
| 13:42 |
|
pmichaud |
we don't have a choice. |
| 13:42 |
|
moritz |
pmichaud: or do you means "target *supported* releases"? |
| 13:42 |
|
pmichaud |
well, we *do* have a choice, we could stall our development speed by about 2 weeks. |
| 13:42 |
|
whiteknight |
I don't really care in any case. I'm not against anybody tracking Parrot HEAD |
| 13:43 |
|
pmichaud |
Then why bring it up as a (false) reaction to a legitimate bug? |
| 13:43 |
|
moritz |
whiteknight: ironically we do have to track HEAD to be able to complain about parrot bugs in time |
| 13:43 |
|
whiteknight |
I'm against the combination of tracking HEAD *and* complaining about stability. You can do one or the other, you can't do both |
| 13:43 |
|
pmichaud |
we can't complain about the stability of the releases? wtf? |
| 13:43 |
|
whiteknight |
pmichaud: no releases. Forget the word releases. I'm not talking about releases |
| 13:44 |
|
|
fperrad left #parrot |
| 13:44 |
|
|
fperrad_ is now known as fperrad |
| 13:44 |
|
whiteknight |
Releases should always be perfectly stable, and if they are not there should be complaints |
| 13:45 |
|
masak |
in this case, the bug has been in Parrot for more than half a year. so in this case, tracking HEAD or not is moot. |
| 13:45 |
|
masak |
I'm now complaining that releases from February and on have not been stable. |
| 13:45 |
|
pmichaud |
If masak supplies his patch to the release of Rakudo that targets Parrot 2.6.0, and that exhibits a segfault, are we not allowed to "complain about stability"? |
| 13:45 |
|
masak |
sorry I didn't discover it sooner :) |
| 13:46 |
|
moritz |
it's been a very stable bugs for many months :-) |
| 13:46 |
|
masak |
in a way, this is a kind of ideal segfault. it occurs very regularly. more eyeballs should be able to dig it out and eliminate it. |
| 13:46 |
|
masak |
I'm hopeful, at least. |
| 13:47 |
|
masak |
as further encouragement, recall that I'm blocking on this for the book "Using Perl 6". the patch I can't apply to Rakudo enables things I want to write about in the book. |
| 13:48 |
|
masak |
here's the ticket again: http://trac.parrot.org/parrot/ticket/1746 |
| 13:48 |
|
masak |
kthx |
| 13:51 |
|
pmichaud |
masak: is that patch still an issue on release #32 of Rakudo? |
| 13:52 |
|
pmichaud |
i.e., does it still apply cleanly and exhibit the segfault? |
| 13:52 |
|
masak |
last I checked against Rakudo HEAD, it did. |
| 13:52 |
|
masak |
I think that might have been around or after the release. |
| 13:52 |
|
* masak |
checks now |
| 13:52 |
|
Coke |
pmichaud: OOC, will R** include the tylercurtis fix? |
| 13:52 |
|
Coke |
I think complaining about stability in a general sense is fine. |
| 13:52 |
|
Coke |
Bug reports are awesome, please keep them coming. |
| 13:53 |
|
|
mikehh_ joined #parrot |
| 13:53 |
|
Coke |
(because parrot is not stable, at releases or anywhere.) |
| 13:53 |
|
masak |
I'm complaining about stability in a specific sense. :P |
| 13:53 |
|
pmichaud |
yeah, I'm a little distributed by any attitude of "you should only report bugs for releases". |
| 13:53 |
|
pmichaud |
*disturbed |
| 13:53 |
|
masak |
and that didn't matter in this case. |
| 13:53 |
|
whiteknight |
I never had that attitude |
| 13:53 |
|
pmichaud |
(wow, that was a weird typo) |
| 13:53 |
|
masak |
it affects several recent releases. |
| 13:54 |
|
pmichaud |
13:43 <whiteknight> I'm against the combination of tracking HEAD *and* complaining about stability. You can do one or the other, you can't do both |
| 13:54 |
|
whiteknight |
there's a difference between reporting bugs and complaining that parrot is lousy and bug-riddled |
| 13:54 |
|
pmichaud |
evidence please. |
| 13:54 |
|
pmichaud |
Please show me where someone said "Parrot is lousy and bug-riddled" |
| 13:55 |
|
Coke |
There is certainly some snark that exists on #perl6 about parrot. but it often results in reportable (and therefore fixable) bugs. |
| 13:55 |
|
whiteknight |
pmichaud: I'm not trying to start any arguments here. There is a distinct difference between a "complaint" and a "bug report" |
| 13:55 |
|
Coke |
pmichaud: if you review from timtoady matching parrot, you'll find something close, anyway. ;) |
| 13:55 |
|
|
mikehh left #parrot |
| 13:55 |
|
|
mikehh_ is now known as mikehh |
| 13:55 |
|
whiteknight |
I'm very careful to use one term when I mean the one concept and not the other |
| 13:55 |
|
pmichaud |
whiteknight: what complaint are you referring to, then? |
| 13:55 |
|
mikehh |
opbots, names |
| 13:56 |
|
pmichaud |
if Rakudo is incorrectly complaining about Parrot, I'd like to put a stop to it. |
| 13:56 |
|
pmichaud |
Coke: TimToady/parrot -- I think most of that snark has to do with Parrot design issues, not with bug-ridden-ness |
| 13:56 |
|
whiteknight |
pmichaud: the exact instance is irrelevant. That doesn't mean I should be accused of having some kind of disturbing attitude when I was very careful about the words I used |
| 13:57 |
|
Coke |
pmichaud: you can see where it would be hard to tell. |
| 13:57 |
|
pmichaud |
Coke: certainly. |
| 13:57 |
|
Coke |
so, can we all just hug and make up now? |
| 13:57 |
|
pmichaud |
Coke: but since whiteknight is now claiming precision, I'd like to see some. |
| 13:57 |
|
Coke |
except TimToady, he's too mean. Þ |
| 13:57 |
|
moritz |
should I send hugme in? :-) |
| 13:57 |
|
masak |
:) |
| 13:57 |
|
pmichaud |
moritz: likely. |
| 13:58 |
|
Coke |
in here? why don't you try him out in #perl first. Þ |
| 13:58 |
|
moritz |
Coke: :-) |
| 13:58 |
|
pmichaud |
I'm just tired of hearing "Rakudo should only be targeting Parrot releases", because it is now and always has been a delusion on our parts to think that it matters in any significant way. |
| 13:59 |
|
pmichaud |
I mean, we file a bug report, and the response is essentially "don't complain about things that don't have to do with releases" |
| 13:59 |
|
whiteknight |
pmichaud: who ever said that? I've never seen that said |
| 13:59 |
|
pmichaud |
(I grant this response is coming from only one person.) |
| 13:59 |
|
whiteknight |
bug reports have always been appreciated |
| 14:00 |
|
pmichaud |
whiteknight: did you not just say that someone is complaining about stability? |
| 14:00 |
|
pmichaud |
Okay, okay, never mind. I'll drop it. |
| 14:00 |
|
whiteknight |
pmichaud: again, difference between "bug report" and a "complaint". That said, I did see something yesterday that I did legitimately take as an insulting complaint about stability |
| 14:01 |
|
Coke |
whiteknight: instead of saying "i said what I said and I meant what I meant", perhaps you could consider that someone was easily able to read what you said the wrong way and apologize. |
| 14:01 |
|
whiteknight |
Coke: that may be, and I'm going to lengths to try and clarify |
| 14:02 |
|
Coke |
Perhaps instead of clarifying, we can all just start over. |
| 14:02 |
|
Coke |
So... pmichaud... what's up, dude? |
| 14:02 |
|
Coke |
how's rakudo working out for you? |
| 14:03 |
|
pmichaud |
Coke: sorry, I don't have a response I can make at the moment. 1/2 :-) |
| 14:03 |
|
masak |
pmichaud: confirmed; patching Rakudo HEAD and running 'use A; use B' causes the segfault. |
| 14:04 |
|
Coke |
I don't know what "1/2" means in this context. |
| 14:04 |
|
pmichaud |
masak: I was somewhat interested in patching the #32 release, so we could tie it to a parrot release. But it's not important now, other than I'll look at your bug report shortly and see if I can figure out what's going on. That looks like a really weird GC issue. |
| 14:04 |
|
masak |
whiteknight: I sincerely hope that it wasn't something I said about stability. Parrot is far, far better in this department than in, say, s008. |
| 14:04 |
|
masak |
er, *2008 |
| 14:04 |
|
|
Andy joined #parrot |
| 14:05 |
|
masak |
pmichaud: i"ve already tied it to the February and May parrot releases. I'd be very surprised if the problem somehow fixed itself in time for a release, and then re-appeared. |
| 14:05 |
|
Coke |
ah, here's our peacemaker. except when he's being a jerk. Andy, everyone! |
| 14:05 |
|
Andy |
You all suck. |
| 14:05 |
|
purl |
gang rape costs extra |
| 14:05 |
|
* Coke |
hugs andy, and was just kidding about the jerk thing. |
| 14:06 |
|
Andy |
Kiss my ass, Coleda. |
| 14:06 |
|
Andy |
Let's fight! |
| 14:06 |
|
masak |
you're the worst peacemaker ever. :) |
| 14:06 |
|
Coke |
is this your first time here? then you must fight. |
| 14:06 |
|
* Coke |
thinks we need our own infobot. |
| 14:06 |
|
Andy |
I could try to be a pacemaker, but keep me away from microwave ovens. |
| 14:06 |
|
PerlJam |
Seems like a good fundraiser for YAPC/TPF/whatever (fight your "favorite" perl personality :) |
| 14:07 |
|
Coke |
trying to make purl forget that fact in private, no love. ah well. |
| 14:07 |
|
|
bacek joined #parrot |
| 14:08 |
|
Coke |
bacek_at_work: speaking of infobots... |
| 14:08 |
|
Coke |
I don't mind a chatty infobot as long as he's not contaminated by #perl. |
| 14:09 |
|
moritz |
+1 to having our own |
| 14:09 |
|
szbalint |
well volunteered! :) |
| 14:10 |
|
moritz |
damn |
| 14:11 |
|
|
fperrad_ joined #parrot |
| 14:11 |
|
Coke |
moritz: this is why I try to keep my mouth shut in here. ;) |
| 14:12 |
|
moritz |
Coke: well, as long as the volunteering is not tied to a time frame... :-) |
| 14:15 |
|
|
fperrad left #parrot |
| 14:15 |
|
|
fperrad_ is now known as fperrad |
| 14:17 |
|
TiMBuS |
you can use my perl 6 irc bot framework if you want :) |
| 14:19 |
|
TiMBuS |
(but yeah dont, i keep refactoring it) |
| 14:21 |
|
bacek |
aloha, humans |
| 14:21 |
|
bacek |
aloha, perl? |
| 14:21 |
|
aloha |
bacek: No clue. Sorry. |
| 14:21 |
|
bacek |
aloha, perl is great |
| 14:21 |
|
aloha |
bacek: Okay. |
| 14:21 |
|
bacek |
aloha, perl? |
| 14:21 |
|
purl |
hmmm... aloha, perl is great |
| 14:21 |
|
aloha |
bacek: perl is great |
| 14:21 |
|
bacek |
stupid girl |
| 14:22 |
|
bacek |
Coke, I have infobot plugin in aloha :) |
| 14:27 |
|
|
plobsing joined #parrot |
| 14:27 |
|
pmichaud |
(R** and tylercurtis fix) I was planning to use the release version of Rakudo, which wouldn't include the fix. |
| 14:28 |
|
Coke |
hokay. there's always next time. no worries. |
| 14:28 |
|
Coke |
(yay, R*** already wins!) |
| 14:29 |
|
whiteknight |
good morning, bacek |
| 14:30 |
|
bacek |
whiteknight, it's 0:30am here :) |
| 14:30 |
|
whiteknight |
technically: morning |
| 14:30 |
|
bacek |
definitely |
| 14:31 |
|
|
fperrad left #parrot |
| 14:31 |
|
|
fperrad joined #parrot |
| 14:32 |
|
Coke |
aloha? |
| 14:32 |
|
Coke |
aloha: coke? |
| 14:32 |
|
purl |
somebody said coke was Will Coleda <mailto:willcoleda.com> |
| 14:32 |
|
aloha |
Coke: Sorry, I don't know. |
| 14:32 |
|
Coke |
aloha, coke is Will Coleda <mailto:willcoleda.com> |
| 14:32 |
|
aloha |
Coke: Okay. |
| 14:32 |
|
Coke |
aloha: coke? |
| 14:32 |
|
purl |
rumour has it coke is Will Coleda <mailto:willcoleda.com> |
| 14:32 |
|
aloha |
Coke: coke is Will Coleda <mailto:willcoleda.com> |
| 14:32 |
|
purl |
i already had it that way, aloha. |
| 14:32 |
|
Coke |
what else does purl do that we can't live without. msg? |
| 14:33 |
|
whiteknight |
aloha: i already had it that way, aloha is <reply>Coke? |
| 14:33 |
|
moritz |
aloha: msg Coke maybe it even works |
| 14:33 |
|
purl |
Message for coke stored. |
| 14:33 |
|
moritz |
aloha: purl is really stupid |
| 14:33 |
|
aloha |
moritz: Okay. |
| 14:33 |
|
Coke |
aloha: no, purl is just misguided. |
| 14:33 |
|
purl |
okay, Coke. |
| 14:34 |
|
aloha |
Coke: Okay. |
| 14:34 |
|
Coke |
moritz: looks like purl took the msg, not aloha. |
| 14:35 |
|
Coke |
if we can get that working, I'm happy to boot purl. |
| 14:35 |
|
moritz |
Coke: that's why I wrote "purl is really stupid" |
| 14:37 |
|
Coke |
hurm. we'd also lose purl-karma. |
| 14:37 |
|
Coke |
we could also ask hachi about options. |
| 14:38 |
|
moritz |
Coke: In the long run I plan to extract karma from the public IRC logs |
| 14:38 |
|
whiteknight |
how does purl store it's karma info? DB? flat file? |
| 14:42 |
|
|
aloha left #parrot |
| 14:42 |
|
|
aloha joined #parrot |
| 14:45 |
|
Coke |
so, to channel chromatic for a minute; would it be helpful to reduce that perl6-with-patch chunk to a PIR-only snippet? |
| 14:46 |
|
Coke |
(that certainly seemed to help track down the auto_attrs issue in rakudo yesterday.) |
| 14:46 |
|
|
tcurtis joined #parrot |
| 14:46 |
|
moritz |
I'm sure it would; I'm not sure how easy or hard it would be |
| 14:47 |
|
Coke |
I basically ran --target==pir and then started ripping things out until the leak went away. |
| 14:48 |
|
Coke |
(so, still had the ops & the setting.) |
| 14:49 |
|
|
aloha left #parrot |
| 14:49 |
|
pmichaud |
I wouldn't be surprised if it's a runloop issue. |
| 14:49 |
|
|
aloha joined #parrot |
| 14:49 |
|
bacek |
aloha, tell Coke it should work |
| 14:49 |
|
aloha |
bacek: OK. I'll deliver the message. |
| 14:50 |
|
masak |
the patch is made to the setting, so there are good chances that it might be detached from the Rakudo source altogether. |
| 14:50 |
|
masak |
it also hasn't been properly minimized. |
| 14:50 |
|
pmichaud |
I'm a little concerned about that class-within-a-loadinit |
| 14:50 |
|
bacek |
aloha, karma Coke |
| 14:50 |
|
aloha |
bacek: Coke has karma of 0. |
| 14:50 |
|
bacek |
Coke++ |
| 14:51 |
|
bacek |
aloha, karma Coke |
| 14:51 |
|
aloha |
bacek: Coke has karma of 1. |
| 14:51 |
|
pmichaud |
oh, and there's a role in there as well. |
| 14:51 |
|
pmichaud |
hmmmmm |
| 14:51 |
|
pmichaud |
that feels like it's likely to cause problems |
| 14:52 |
|
pmichaud |
masak: have you tried it using a named class/role instead of the anonymous ones? |
| 14:52 |
|
masak |
no. I also think those anon things are the ultimate cause of the problem. |
| 14:52 |
|
* masak |
tries |
| 14:53 |
|
moritz |
masak: fwiw, that patch doesn't apply cleanly on my rakudo copy |
| 14:53 |
|
|
theory joined #parrot |
| 14:53 |
|
masak |
moritz: I have a local branch which I keep rebasing. so I'm not actually applying a patch here. |
| 14:54 |
|
pmichaud |
+ method WHAT { $enumeration-object } |
| 14:54 |
|
pmichaud |
that looks Evil. |
| 14:54 |
|
masak |
oh? |
| 14:54 |
|
masak |
it's spec. |
| 14:54 |
|
pmichaud |
since $enumeration-object is not in fact a type object. |
| 14:54 |
|
masak |
it's an undefined object just like type objects are. |
| 14:55 |
|
pmichaud |
even with the .new? |
| 14:55 |
|
masak |
hm. |
| 14:55 |
|
pmichaud |
it looks to me like it's a full-fledged instance of the class, not the class's type object |
| 14:56 |
|
masak |
(class {}) doesn't yield a type object? |
| 14:56 |
|
pmichaud |
yes, but you do (class {}).new |
| 14:56 |
|
masak |
oh wait. there's a .new there. |
| 14:56 |
|
masak |
why did I add that again? |
| 14:57 |
|
masak |
that doesn't seem necessary. |
| 14:58 |
|
pmichaud |
beyond that, I'm not sure why you'd need to declare .WHAT in the first place. |
| 14:59 |
|
pmichaud |
the objects will already know their .WHAT |
| 15:01 |
|
masak |
I remember there being some reason. |
| 15:01 |
|
masak |
I'm now unexpectedly called away, but I'll run the patch with named class/role while offline. |
| 15:01 |
|
masak |
o/ |
| 15:02 |
|
|
masak left #parrot |
| 15:04 |
|
|
theory left #parrot |
| 15:08 |
|
|
theory joined #parrot |
| 15:21 |
|
dalek |
github-trac: 22fa9a4 | ++ | github/github.py: |
| 15:22 |
|
dalek |
github-trac: make tooltips work |
| 15:22 |
|
dalek |
github-trac: review: http://github.com/cotto/github[…]979a28f28253da57e |
| 15:40 |
|
|
theory left #parrot |
| 15:42 |
|
Coke |
pmichaud: hey, you implemented partcl-nqp's version of variables. Got a sec to discuss namespace vars? |
| 15:43 |
|
pmichaud |
sure |
| 15:43 |
|
pmichaud |
but just a short second -- need to head off to lunch |
| 15:43 |
|
|
cotto_work joined #parrot |
| 15:44 |
|
cotto_work |
good morning |
| 15:44 |
|
purl |
For you maybe. |
| 15:44 |
|
Coke |
so, you can do: namespace eval foo { variable bar} , and then you have $::foo::bar (or would if that syntax did anything yet.) |
| 15:45 |
|
cotto_work |
. o 0 (We should probably kill the bots before they turn on us. Let's start with purl.) |
| 15:45 |
|
Coke |
for storage, i was thinking of adding a %GLOBALS whenever a namespace was created, like the correspoding one in the HLL tcl root. |
| 15:45 |
|
pmichaud |
Coke: seems reasonable |
| 15:46 |
|
Coke |
In the old system, i was putting namespace vars in as globals and lexicals, and I have no idea why. :( |
| 15:46 |
|
pmichaud |
well, in Rakudo we put "our" variables in as both package and lexical bindings |
| 15:46 |
|
Coke |
Probably to simplify differentiating between variable-in-ns and variable-in-proc. |
| 15:46 |
|
moritz |
right |
| 15:47 |
|
pmichaud |
my $x = 5; { say $x; { our $x = 7; say $x; } } |
| 15:47 |
|
pmichaud |
the innermost $x needs to know that it's bound to the package $x, not the outer lexical. |
| 15:47 |
|
Coke |
hokay. I can wire up the %GLOBAL creation to [namespace eval] and then make [variable] work and then make $foo::bar work. |
| 15:47 |
|
Coke |
in tcl, vars aren't really lexical like that, so it's easier. |
| 15:47 |
|
pmichaud |
right. |
| 15:48 |
|
moritz |
Coke: how far is partcl-nqp behind the old partcl? |
| 15:48 |
|
Coke |
moritz: <cry> |
| 15:48 |
|
Coke |
the old one was able to run most of the spec tests. |
| 15:48 |
|
Coke |
the new one is extensible! but not extended. |
| 15:48 |
|
Coke |
so it doesn't even run the partcl-only tests that were running before. |
| 15:48 |
|
moritz |
I know that feeling all too well |
| 15:49 |
|
pmichaud |
afk, lunch |
| 15:51 |
|
Coke |
hurm. I think I can simplify $foo::bar by putting wiring up [namespace eval] to take the GLOBALS, if any, and make them lexical for that block. then I can just keep looking in the same place when getting their vals. |
| 16:04 |
|
|
pyrimidine joined #parrot |
| 16:06 |
|
|
khairul left #parrot |
| 16:18 |
|
cotto_work |
How do I delete any local-only commits in git? |
| 16:19 |
|
moritz |
git reset --hard origin/master |
| 16:19 |
|
cotto_work |
moritz++ |
| 16:19 |
|
moritz |
(but it's not "hard" gone... git reflog will still show you the commits for a while) |
| 16:20 |
|
szbalint |
yeah, until some gc run right? |
| 16:20 |
|
moritz |
right |
| 16:20 |
|
moritz |
git gc |
| 16:20 |
|
moritz |
or git repack -A -d # or so |
| 16:24 |
|
mikehh |
All tests PASS (pre/post-config, make corevm/make coretest, test, fulltest) at r48652 - Ubuntu 10.04 amd64 (g++ with --optimize) |
| 16:27 |
|
cotto_work |
http://allisonrandal.com/2010/[…]/ubuntu-ta-intro/ |
| 16:28 |
|
szbalint |
ooh |
| 16:28 |
|
* moritz |
doesn't find a date for that blog entry |
| 16:29 |
|
moritz |
except in the uRL |
| 16:30 |
|
TiMBuS |
oh boy! allison can now fix all of mark shuttleworths bad ideas :P |
| 16:34 |
|
dalek |
parrot: r48653 | gerd++ | trunk/lib/Parrot/Configure/Compiler.pm: |
| 16:34 |
|
dalek |
parrot: add a method to replace entries like "@key@" only for shebang at the first line of a file |
| 16:34 |
|
dalek |
parrot: review: http://trac.parrot.org/parrot/changeset/48653/ |
| 16:46 |
|
Andy |
wait, what? |
| 16:46 |
|
purl |
yeah, seriously |
| 16:46 |
|
Andy |
Allison got a real job? |
| 16:48 |
|
dukeleto |
Andy: seems that way |
| 17:08 |
|
dalek |
parrot: r48654 | gerd++ | trunk (3 files): |
| 17:08 |
|
dalek |
parrot: set the "@key@" shebang value in the "tools/dev/mk_language_shell.pl.in" |
| 17:08 |
|
dalek |
parrot: review: http://trac.parrot.org/parrot/changeset/48654/ |
| 17:08 |
|
dalek |
parrot: r48655 | plobsing++ | trunk/tools/dev/pbc_to_exe.pir: |
| 17:08 |
|
dalek |
parrot: add --runcore option to pbc_to_exe in order to optionally use the slow core |
| 17:08 |
|
dalek |
parrot: fixes TT #1653 |
| 17:08 |
|
dalek |
parrot: review: http://trac.parrot.org/parrot/changeset/48655/ |
| 17:09 |
|
|
robin-gvx joined #parrot |
| 17:10 |
|
dalek |
TT #1653 closed by plobsing++: pbc_to_exe loses file information. |
| 17:10 |
|
dalek |
TT #1653 : http://trac.parrot.org/parrot/ticket/1653 |
| 17:10 |
|
|
Topic for #parrot is now Parrot 2.7.0 "Australian King" Released! | parrot.org Log: irclog.perlgeek.de/parrot/today | Nopaste: nopaste.snit.ch:8001 | close 20 tickets (16 to go), merge outstanding branches, help NotFound clean up PBC tests |
| 17:14 |
|
|
brianwisti joined #parrot |
| 17:15 |
|
|
plobsing left #parrot |
| 17:23 |
|
|
allison joined #parrot |
| 17:25 |
|
|
nwellnhof left #parrot |
| 17:39 |
|
|
fperrad_ joined #parrot |
| 17:41 |
|
|
fperrad left #parrot |
| 17:41 |
|
|
fperrad_ is now known as fperrad |
| 17:42 |
|
|
ruoso joined #parrot |
| 17:45 |
|
|
rurban_ joined #parrot |
| 17:49 |
|
|
rurban left #parrot |
| 17:49 |
|
|
rurban_ is now known as rurban |
| 17:50 |
|
|
rurban left #parrot |
| 17:56 |
|
|
ruoso left #parrot |
| 19:00 |
|
* Coke |
wonders if he would like his job more if he was paid to hack on parrot related issues. |
| 19:01 |
|
atrodo |
Coke> I'd assume all of us would like our job more if we could hack on things that interest us all day |
| 19:01 |
|
* cotto_work |
doesn't |
| 19:02 |
|
moritz |
btw http://trac.parrot.org/parrot/ticket/1752 should be pretty easy for somebody who actually understands some parrot guts |
| 19:06 |
|
brianwisti |
I'm not sure it would interest me as much if I would get fired for not doing it. |
| 19:06 |
|
brianwisti |
But still, it would be nice if Parrot was in some vague way work-related. |
| 19:10 |
|
atrodo |
brianwisti> I think about it in optimal terms. If I get paid to hack on things that interest me, then by definition, as long as I'm hacking, I'm fulfilling my jobs. |
| 19:10 |
|
atrodo |
However, I'm still looking for a jobs with that description |
| 19:14 |
|
szbalint |
what I need at a job is freedom and to do something interesting. Interesting in itself is not enough |
| 19:15 |
|
Coke |
moritz: if the function docs for the function it calls are to be believed, there's your answer. |
| 19:27 |
|
|
hercynium joined #parrot |
| 19:31 |
|
|
lucian_ joined #parrot |
| 19:32 |
|
|
mikehh_ joined #parrot |
| 19:34 |
|
|
lucian left #parrot |
| 19:34 |
|
|
mikehh left #parrot |
| 19:39 |
|
|
nwellnhof joined #parrot |
| 19:54 |
|
TimToady |
phoan in faiv |
| 19:55 |
|
Coke |
meh |
| 19:56 |
|
dalek |
parrot: r48656 | fperrad++ | trunk/runtime/parrot/library/distutils.pir: |
| 19:56 |
|
dalek |
parrot: [distutils] fix TT #1756 |
| 19:56 |
|
dalek |
parrot: review: http://trac.parrot.org/parrot/changeset/48656/ |
| 20:09 |
|
|
whiteknight left #parrot |
| 20:10 |
|
|
fperrad left #parrot |
| 20:16 |
|
|
jan left #parrot |
| 20:18 |
|
|
eternaleye_ joined #parrot |
| 20:20 |
|
NotFound |
fperrad++ |
| 20:20 |
|
|
eternaleye_ left #parrot |
| 20:20 |
|
|
eternaleye_ joined #parrot |
| 20:23 |
|
cotto_work |
NotFound: did you intend to close that ticket? |
| 20:25 |
|
|
eternaleye_ left #parrot |
| 20:25 |
|
|
jan joined #parrot |
| 20:27 |
|
|
eternaleye_ joined #parrot |
| 20:29 |
|
|
eternaleye_ left #parrot |
| 20:30 |
|
|
eternaleye_ joined #parrot |
| 20:30 |
|
dalek |
parrot: r48657 | NotFound++ | trunk/tools/dev/pbc_to_exe.pir: |
| 20:30 |
|
dalek |
parrot: add a cast to pbc_to_exe generated code for c++ builds |
| 20:30 |
|
dalek |
parrot: review: http://trac.parrot.org/parrot/changeset/48657/ |
| 20:32 |
|
|
eternaleye_ left #parrot |
| 20:32 |
|
NotFound |
cotto_work: if fperrad doesn't, I'll do it. |
| 20:33 |
|
* cotto_work |
is not a fan of the name Parrot_Run_core_t |
| 20:33 |
|
NotFound |
If someone wants easy karma, go for it. |
| 20:33 |
|
cotto_work |
done |
| 20:34 |
|
|
Topic for #parrot is now Parrot 2.7.0 "Australian King" Released! | parrot.org Log: irclog.perlgeek.de/parrot/today | Nopaste: nopaste.snit.ch:8001 | close 20 tickets (15 to go), merge outstanding branches, help NotFound clean up PBC tests |
| 20:34 |
|
dalek |
TT #1756 closed by cotto++: distutils inst_lang fails on non-array |
| 20:34 |
|
dalek |
TT #1756 : http://trac.parrot.org/parrot/ticket/1756 |
| 20:35 |
|
NotFound |
You can drop that call for help from the topic, it was for the last week ;) |
| 20:36 |
|
|
eternaleye_ joined #parrot |
| 20:36 |
|
|
Topic for #parrot is now Parrot 2.7.0 "Australian King" Released! | parrot.org Log: irclog.perlgeek.de/parrot/today | Nopaste: nopaste.snit.ch:8001 | close 20 tickets (15 to go), merge outstanding branches |
| 20:37 |
|
cotto_work |
I'm not sure if we discussed merging outstanding branches this week, but it wouldn't hurt to do some merging or pruning. |
| 20:37 |
|
NotFound |
Agreed |
| 20:38 |
|
|
eternaleye left #parrot |
| 20:40 |
|
|
eternaleye_ is now known as eternaleye |
| 20:46 |
|
|
plobsing joined #parrot |
| 20:47 |
|
|
lucian joined #parrot |
| 20:51 |
|
|
lucian_ left #parrot |
| 21:01 |
|
|
robin-gvx left #parrot |
| 21:10 |
|
|
whiteknight joined #parrot |
| 21:12 |
|
|
robin-gvx joined #parrot |
| 21:19 |
|
GeJ |
Bonjour everyone. |
| 21:21 |
|
cotto_work |
http://nakkaya.com/2010/08/24/[…]implemented-in-c/ |
| 21:22 |
|
|
lucian_ joined #parrot |
| 21:23 |
|
whiteknight |
hello GeJ |
| 21:24 |
|
GeJ |
Good evening whiteknight |
| 21:24 |
|
|
lucian left #parrot |
| 21:24 |
|
GeJ |
clock? |
| 21:24 |
|
purl |
GeJ: LAX: Wed 2:24pm PDT / CHI: Wed 4:24pm CDT / NYC: Wed 5:24pm EDT / LON: Wed 10:24pm BST / BER: Wed 11:24pm CEST / IND: Thu 2:54am IST / TOK: Thu 6:24am JST / SYD: Thu 7:24am EST / |
| 21:24 |
|
GeJ |
s/evening/afternoon/ |
| 21:26 |
|
cotto_work |
You can't be accurate for everyone. |
| 21:26 |
|
|
Paul_the_Greek joined #parrot |
| 21:27 |
|
Paul_the_Greek |
Good everning, one and all. |
| 21:28 |
|
whiteknight |
hello Paul_the_Greek |
| 21:28 |
|
Paul_the_Greek |
Hey ho whiteknight |
| 21:28 |
|
whiteknight |
did you just call me a ho?!?! |
| 21:28 |
|
whiteknight |
:) |
| 21:29 |
|
GeJ |
cotto_work: true. I usually go with 'morning' but there's always someone who needs to single himself with a "not here it's not." |
| 21:29 |
|
GeJ |
.o0(I think there's a "out" missing somewhere) |
| 21:30 |
|
cotto_work |
I like to go with "Good morning, and if you complain that it's not morning go do some Parrot hacking instead you slacker." |
| 21:30 |
|
GeJ |
It's way too morning-y to write proper english anyway. |
| 21:30 |
|
Paul_the_Greek |
You're a coding whore, whiteknight. |
| 21:30 |
|
NotFound |
GeJ: Let's write C instead |
| 21:31 |
|
Paul_the_Greek |
Oh wait, if you don't get paid then I guess the word doesn't apply. |
| 21:31 |
|
|
robin-gvx left #parrot |
| 21:32 |
|
GeJ |
NotFound: I'll pass thank you. :) |
| 21:33 |
|
|
aloha left #parrot |
| 21:33 |
|
Paul_the_Greek |
whiteknight: If we break apart the mark and sweep, doesn't the marking become obsolete if anything happens in between? |
| 21:34 |
|
atrodo |
If it's marked as garbage, as in no way to get to it, I would guess that when the sweep runs it's still garbage since no one can get to it. But what do I know |
| 21:35 |
|
|
bacek left #parrot |
| 21:36 |
|
Paul_the_Greek |
I thought the mark phase marks the good stuff, not the garbage. |
| 21:36 |
|
|
davidfetter joined #parrot |
| 21:37 |
|
|
mikehh_ is now known as mikehh |
| 21:37 |
|
mikehh |
opbots, names |
| 21:37 |
|
|
aloha joined #parrot |
| 21:44 |
|
|
lucian_ left #parrot |
| 21:47 |
|
|
bacek joined #parrot |
| 22:22 |
|
|
nwellnhof left #parrot |
| 22:26 |
|
|
pyrimidine left #parrot |
| 22:33 |
|
|
kid51 joined #parrot |
| 22:34 |
|
|
ruoso joined #parrot |
| 22:36 |
|
|
brianwisti left #parrot |
| 22:39 |
|
dalek |
winxed: r604 | NotFound++ | trunk/winxedst1.winxed: |
| 22:39 |
|
dalek |
winxed: add compile_from_file method to WinxedHLL |
| 22:39 |
|
dalek |
winxed: review: http://code.google.com/p/winxe[…]urce/detail?r=604 |
| 22:39 |
|
dalek |
winxed: r605 | NotFound++ | trunk/winxed_installed.winxed: |
| 22:39 |
|
dalek |
winxed: initial version of driver for installed winxed - only for testing, not installed |
| 22:39 |
|
dalek |
winxed: yet |
| 22:39 |
|
dalek |
winxed: review: http://code.google.com/p/winxe[…]urce/detail?r=605 |
| 22:40 |
|
kid51 |
seen Gerd |
| 22:40 |
|
purl |
Gerd was last seen on #parrot 71 days, 10 hours, 17 minutes and 33 seconds ago, saying: I will start to copy the tar file to the ftp server. [Jun 15 12:22:48 2010] |
| 22:40 |
|
aloha |
Sorry, I haven't seen Gerd. |
| 22:43 |
|
cotto_work |
aloha: status |
| 22:43 |
|
purl |
Since Thu Aug 5 20:55:17 2010, there have been 3258 modifications and 1927 questions. I have been awake for 20 days, 1 hour, 47 minutes, 58 seconds this session, and currently reference 855425 factoids. Addressing is in optional mode. |
| 22:43 |
|
cotto_work |
botkick |
| 22:48 |
|
|
davidfetter left #parrot |
| 22:49 |
|
nopaste |
"kid51" at 192.168.1.3 pasted "[codingstd] tools/dev/mk_language_shell.pl.in causes failure in filenames.t." (11 lines) at http://nopaste.snit.ch/23119 |
| 22:50 |
|
nopaste |
"kid51" at 192.168.1.3 pasted "[codingstd] tools/dev/mk_language_shell.pl.in causes failure in filenames.t." (17 lines) at http://nopaste.snit.ch/23120 |
| 22:50 |
|
kid51 |
2nd paste is better |
| 22:56 |
|
Paul_the_Greek |
seen chromatic |
| 22:56 |
|
purl |
chromatic was last seen on #parrot 5 days, 3 hours, 4 minutes and 47 seconds ago, saying: Give me a few minutes and I can look at it. [Aug 20 19:51:22 2010] |
| 22:56 |
|
aloha |
Sorry, I haven't seen chromatic. |
| 22:56 |
|
Paul_the_Greek |
What the heck is aloha? |
| 22:56 |
|
kid51 |
aloha? |
| 22:57 |
|
kid51 |
It's a bot who doesn't respond to her own name ;-) |
| 22:57 |
|
Paul_the_Greek |
And purl doesn't know either. |
| 22:57 |
|
cotto_work |
it's bacek's bot |
| 22:57 |
|
cotto_work |
its purpose appears to make tab completion of greetings easier |
| 22:58 |
|
Paul_the_Greek |
So aloha is what allows me to type part of a username and then hit tab? |
| 22:59 |
|
cotto_work |
No. That's your irc client. aloha makes it easier to type aloha |
| 22:59 |
|
* kid51 |
doubts that |
| 22:59 |
|
cotto_work |
s/aloha$/"aloha"/ |
| 22:59 |
|
|
davidfetter joined #parrot |
| 22:59 |
|
Paul_the_Greek |
I was going to be scared if a bot could see my keystrokes, so I'm glad it can't. |
| 23:00 |
|
Paul_the_Greek |
Is chromatic away? |
| 23:00 |
|
cotto_work |
He posted to parrot-dev earlier today |
| 23:00 |
|
cotto_work |
seen chromatic |
| 23:00 |
|
purl |
chromatic was last seen on #parrot 5 days, 3 hours, 9 minutes and 37 seconds ago, saying: Give me a few minutes and I can look at it. [Aug 20 19:51:22 2010] |
| 23:00 |
|
aloha |
Sorry, I haven't seen chromatic. |
| 23:01 |
|
kid51 |
He's not here now ... but then again aloha is very new and doesn't know most of us |
| 23:01 |
|
cotto_work |
seen cotto |
| 23:01 |
|
purl |
cotto was last seen on #parrot 17 hours, 59 minutes and 17 seconds ago, saying: too late? |
| 23:01 |
|
aloha |
Sorry, I haven't seen cotto. |
| 23:01 |
|
cotto_work |
seen cotto_work |
| 23:01 |
|
purl |
cotto_work was last seen on #parrot 0 seconds ago, saying: seen cotto_work |
| 23:01 |
|
tcurtis |
seen cotto |
| 23:01 |
|
purl |
cotto was last seen on #parrot 17 hours, 59 minutes and 25 seconds ago, saying: too late? |
| 23:01 |
|
aloha |
cotto_work was last seen in #parrot 0 seconds ago saying "seen cotto_work". |
| 23:01 |
|
aloha |
Sorry, I haven't seen cotto. |
| 23:01 |
|
kid51 |
seen kid51 |
| 23:01 |
|
purl |
kid51 was last seen on #parrot 0 seconds ago, saying: seen kid51 |
| 23:01 |
|
aloha |
kid51 was last seen in #parrot 0 seconds ago saying "seen kid51". |
| 23:01 |
|
kid51 |
seen tcurtis |
| 23:01 |
|
purl |
tcurtis was last seen on #parrot 12 seconds ago, saying: seen cotto |
| 23:01 |
|
aloha |
tcurtis was last seen in #parrot 12 seconds ago saying "seen cotto". |
| 23:01 |
|
Paul_the_Greek |
msg chromatic I have some ideas for speeding up allocation/free of PMC attributes. Is my best bet to wait until you merge gc_massacre? |
| 23:01 |
|
purl |
Message for chromatic stored. |
| 23:01 |
|
* cotto_work |
hopes they don't create a feedback loop |
| 23:01 |
|
kid51 |
So,, aloha only knows people seen since her activation |
| 23:02 |
|
kid51 |
Paul_the_Greek: Why don't you post those ideas to list? |
| 23:02 |
|
dalek |
parrot: r48658 | jkeenan++ | trunk/t/native_pbc (3 files): |
| 23:02 |
|
dalek |
parrot: (Once again ...) Run tools/dev/mk_packfile_pbc to update t/native_pbc files for Darwin/PPC. |
| 23:02 |
|
dalek |
parrot: review: http://trac.parrot.org/parrot/changeset/48658/ |
| 23:02 |
|
cotto_work |
Paul_the_Greek: gc_massacre has been on the list to merge for at least a month. |
| 23:03 |
|
mikehh |
kid51: ping |
| 23:03 |
|
kid51 |
mikehh: pong |
| 23:03 |
|
cotto_work |
I thought there was some agreement about getting it merged, but it remains unmerged. |
| 23:04 |
|
Paul_the_Greek |
You read my mind. I was going to ask if there is a proposed merge date. |
| 23:04 |
|
Paul_the_Greek |
Sounds like I should wait for the merge. |
| 23:04 |
|
cotto_work |
Applying pressure won't hurt. |
| 23:04 |
|
NotFound |
I don't understamd the problem with the native_pbc files. They are no longer used in any test not skipped. |
| 23:05 |
|
mikehh |
kid51: I am getting a codetest failure - t/codingstd/filenames.t - Multi-dot filename found in 1 files: tools/dev/mk_language_shell.pl.in |
| 23:05 |
|
kid51 |
mikehh: http://nopaste.snit.ch/23120 |
| 23:05 |
|
mikehh |
kid51: never seen that before - don't even know what it means |
| 23:06 |
|
kid51 |
I've seen it very infrequently. |
| 23:06 |
|
kid51 |
I saw it just before leaving $job but couldn't fix it from there. |
| 23:06 |
|
Paul_the_Greek |
I swear I saw a pile of double-dot files. |
| 23:06 |
|
kid51 |
I emailed gerd, who did that commit. |
| 23:07 |
|
kid51 |
Paul_the_Greek: Not in the repository, at any rate. |
| 23:07 |
|
dalek |
TT #1750 closed by jkeenan++: t/pmc/packfile*.t: Failures in multiple files on Darwin/PPC; not ... |
| 23:07 |
|
dalek |
TT #1750 : http://trac.parrot.org/parrot/ticket/1750 |
| 23:07 |
|
Paul_the_Greek |
Hmm... |
| 23:08 |
|
kid51 |
mikehh: If you want to change its name's ending from '.pl.in' to '.in', that would probably work (with suitable adjustments in files referring to that file) |
| 23:09 |
|
|
Topic for #parrot is now Parrot 2.7.0 "Australian King" Released! | parrot.org Log: irclog.perlgeek.de/parrot/today | Nopaste: nopaste.snit.ch:8001 | close 20 tickets (14 to go), merge outstanding branches |
| 23:09 |
|
cotto_work |
Why do have that test? |
| 23:09 |
|
Paul_the_Greek |
Ah, I remember. They were generated C files. |
| 23:09 |
|
mikehh |
kid51: if gerd doesn't sort it out, I will |
| 23:10 |
|
Paul_the_Greek |
Because multiple-dot file names are annoying? |
| 23:10 |
|
Paul_the_Greek |
At least we don't have multiple files that differ only by case. |
| 23:10 |
|
sorear |
Paul_the_Greek: multi-dot files are forbidden by many filesystems |
| 23:11 |
|
sorear |
thankfully, the least dead such filesystem is FAT16 |
| 23:11 |
|
sorear |
but codetest (and ISO C) have a long memory |
| 23:11 |
|
Paul_the_Greek |
Good. Then we won't be tempted. :D |
| 23:12 |
|
Paul_the_Greek |
And we can run on VMS, too! |
| 23:13 |
|
cotto_work |
Sure. Just submit a patch. |
| 23:13 |
|
|
kid51 is now known as kid51_at_dinner |
| 23:15 |
|
Paul_the_Greek |
Just a small patch or two and it should run on VMS. |
| 23:16 |
|
mikehh |
anyone got access to VMS? |
| 23:17 |
|
mikehh |
I mean we really, really should try to make parrot work everywhere or how can we take over the world.... |
| 23:17 |
|
Paul_the_Greek |
I could probably find someone with a system at home. |
| 23:17 |
|
Paul_the_Greek |
I spent three years as a VMS developer at DEC. |
| 23:18 |
|
szbalint |
I got VMS access @ uni. I've once written a write-once script for VMS. The experience still haunts me. |
| 23:18 |
|
Paul_the_Greek |
If we want to take over the world we have to make it run on the ARM and other such little guys. |
| 23:19 |
|
Paul_the_Greek |
You wrote a DCL program? |
| 23:19 |
|
dalek |
parrot: r48659 | gerd++ | trunk (2 files): |
| 23:19 |
|
dalek |
parrot: changed filename so that it pass the coding standards test "t/codingstd/filenames.t" (not more than one dot "."); Thanks to Jim for the advice. |
| 23:19 |
|
dalek |
parrot: review: http://trac.parrot.org/parrot/changeset/48659/ |
| 23:20 |
|
mikehh |
yeah - I once did some work on MCP at Burroughs |
| 23:20 |
|
szbalint |
Paul_the_Greek: yes. |
| 23:20 |
|
Paul_the_Greek |
Then you might find this helpful: http://www.amazon.com/Writing-[…]1282778369&sr=8-1 |
| 23:21 |
|
Paul_the_Greek |
You may be amused by the name of one of the authors. |
| 23:21 |
|
cotto_work |
I know that name from somewhere. |
| 23:22 |
|
szbalint |
yeah, sounds familiar :) |
| 23:22 |
|
cotto_work |
it's an easy one to remember |
| 23:22 |
|
cotto_work |
once you sound it out a couple times |
| 23:22 |
|
Paul_the_Greek |
That's how I ended up in the book production business for $work. |
| 23:22 |
|
Paul_the_Greek |
Some people remember it as Soluopotsongana backward. |
| 23:22 |
|
szbalint |
there are advantages and disadvantages for having a UUID as a surname :) |
| 23:23 |
|
szbalint |
trust me, I know. |
| 23:24 |
|
cotto_work |
pricey book |
| 23:24 |
|
Paul_the_Greek |
If only I had some more copies, I could make some money on the side. |
| 23:25 |
|
mikehh |
Paul_the_Greek: love the availability - 5 used from $129.95 |
| 23:25 |
|
Paul_the_Greek |
I do have the copyright back from Digital Press, so I could print it and sell it agaiin. |
| 23:25 |
|
Paul_the_Greek |
129. Crap. I never sold my extra copies for more than about $60. |
| 23:26 |
|
Paul_the_Greek |
$270? Hell, I should start selling advice on the Net. |
| 23:27 |
|
Paul_the_Greek |
I wrote the VMS code management and user installation facilities in DCL, so I became the world's expert at DCL. |
| 23:27 |
|
Paul_the_Greek |
For what it's worth. |
| 23:27 |
|
Paul_the_Greek |
Both have since been replaced, of course. |
| 23:29 |
|
mikehh |
Paul_the_Greek: yes - but for the better? |
| 23:30 |
|
Paul_the_Greek |
I suspect so. At least they are faster. |
| 23:30 |
|
Paul_the_Greek |
DCL had some pretty ancient interpreter guts, but no one would fund a rewrite. |
| 23:31 |
|
Paul_the_Greek |
It would have to be crock-for-crock compatible, of course. |
| 23:32 |
|
mikehh |
if we had some new alpha chips running VMS or something, but bah |
| 23:33 |
|
Paul_the_Greek |
You mean you don't want to install a VAX/11-780 in your house? |
| 23:34 |
|
Paul_the_Greek |
They have one in on display in the Brown CS department. I wonder if it runs? |
| 23:39 |
|
mikehh |
I see that OpenVMS r8.4 was released in June 2010 |
| 23:40 |
|
mikehh |
that Open in OpenVMS has nothing to do with open source of course |
| 23:41 |
|
Paul_the_Greek |
Yeah, I'm not sure what's open about it. They changed the name after I left. Some marketing pukes got at it. |
| 23:42 |
|
Paul_the_Greek |
Wait, a new version in June? Interesting. |
