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dalek |
TT #1289 closed by jkeenan++: Review/Consolidate test infrastructure in t/codingstd and t/distro |
| 00:09 |
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dalek |
TT #1289 : http://trac.parrot.org/parrot/ticket/1289 |
| 00:09 |
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dalek |
TT #97 closed by jkeenan++: test installable config |
| 00:09 |
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dalek |
TT #97 : http://trac.parrot.org/parrot/ticket/97 |
| 00:12 |
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whiteknight |
I didn't realize until a few days ago that IMCC really had multiple entry points, and that they are duplicating a hell of a lot of code between them |
| 00:13 |
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whiteknight |
compilers/imcc/main.c:imcc_run is called by the frontend, but compilers/imcc/parser_util.c:imcc_compile_file is called by the PIR compreg |
| 00:13 |
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whiteknight |
the two do nearly identical things |
| 00:14 |
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whiteknight |
the later sets up a new context and updates some crap for the namespace and all |
| 00:15 |
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whiteknight |
very soon I think we are going to need to unify |
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dukeleto |
whiteknight: sounds good |
| 00:23 |
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plobsing |
+1 |
| 00:24 |
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plobsing |
why does 'plumage projects' run so slowly? it takes ~1 second per line of output. |
| 00:25 |
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plobsing |
that's not going to scale well |
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dukeleto |
plobsing: not sure, nqp-rx is still pretty slow |
| 00:27 |
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dukeleto |
plobsing: perhaps something can be cached |
| 00:29 |
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plobsing |
I suspect the json parsing, but I have no evidence to support that assumption yet. |
| 00:29 |
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plobsing |
that speed is unacceptable if we're going to try pushing stuff out of core and grow our ecosystem |
| 00:30 |
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dukeleto |
plobsing: yes, we will have to fix that soon |
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dalek |
nqp-rx/nom: 7852255 | jonathan++ | src/metamodel/multi_dispatch.c: |
| 01:04 |
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dalek |
nqp-rx/nom: Finish up getting type-based multiple dispatch to work. |
| 01:04 |
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dalek |
nqp-rx/nom: review: https://github.com/perl6/nqp-rx/commit/7852255ed5 |
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dalek |
nqp-rx/nom: b6b076d | jonathan++ | src/metamodel/multi_dispatch.c: |
| 01:36 |
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dalek |
nqp-rx/nom: Get multi-dispatch on definedness to work. |
| 01:36 |
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dalek |
nqp-rx/nom: review: https://github.com/perl6/nqp-rx/commit/b6b076d6af |
| 01:37 |
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dalek |
nqp-rx/nom: f4fe15c | jonathan++ | t/nqp/55-multi-method.t: |
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dalek |
nqp-rx/nom: Add multi-method tests from nqpclr, which now pass in nqp-rx/nom. |
| 01:37 |
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dalek |
nqp-rx/nom: review: https://github.com/perl6/nqp-rx/commit/f4fe15c2d7 |
| 01:53 |
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dalek |
nqp-rx/nom: 78031bf | jonathan++ | src/stage0/ (3 files): |
| 01:53 |
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dalek |
nqp-rx/nom: Update bootstrap with multiple dispatch and signature parsing improvements. |
| 01:53 |
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dalek |
nqp-rx/nom: review: https://github.com/perl6/nqp-rx/commit/78031bfdc9 |
| 01:53 |
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dalek |
nqp-rx/nom: b0fa8db | jonathan++ | src/metamodel/how/NQPMu.pm: |
| 01:53 |
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dalek |
nqp-rx/nom: Make ACCEPTS a multi and correct the signature of it. |
| 01:53 |
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dalek |
nqp-rx/nom: review: https://github.com/perl6/nqp-rx/commit/b0fa8db53f |
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whiteknight |
tests in t/src/embed/* are not being run in coretest |
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dalek |
parrot: 3532e07 | Whiteknight++ | lib/Parrot/Harness/DefaultTests.pm: |
| 03:03 |
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dalek |
parrot: add t/src/embed/*.t tests to the coretest run target. They weren't being run before |
| 03:03 |
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dalek |
parrot: review: https://github.com/parrot/parr[…]commit/3532e07a39 |
| 03:03 |
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dalek |
parrot: 9d084b0 | Whiteknight++ | / (2 files): |
| 03:03 |
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dalek |
parrot: Merge branch 'master' of github.com:parrot/parrot |
| 03:03 |
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dalek |
parrot: review: https://github.com/parrot/parr[…]commit/9d084b029e |
| 03:30 |
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whiteknight |
blah. The imcc_cleanups branch removes a file from the build. Every time I switch branches I need to configure again tor regen the makefile |
| 03:31 |
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whiteknight |
let me tell you how old this has gotten |
| 03:33 |
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cotto |
whiteknight, I've resorted to using a separate clone and screen sessions for branches that do that. |
| 03:33 |
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whiteknight |
yeah, I'm about 90% of the way to making that same decision |
| 03:35 |
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cotto |
If you know what decision you'll make, you can save some time by making it now instead of later. |
| 03:36 |
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cotto |
I'm chatting with the osuosl folks about fixing parrot.org. The drupal site is back. trac seems to be trickier. |
| 03:36 |
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whiteknight |
what's broken about it? |
| 03:37 |
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cotto |
other than it being unresponsive? |
| 03:38 |
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whiteknight |
no, I mean what's the root cause of the brokenness? |
| 03:38 |
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whiteknight |
bad widget? Broken doodad? |
| 03:38 |
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cotto |
They say they're going to grow the disk. That seems to imply something about space. |
| 03:40 |
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cotto |
it's back |
| 03:41 |
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whiteknight |
I wonder if all those smolder reports filled us up? |
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dalek |
TT #1970 created by cotto++: test |
| 03:45 |
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dalek |
TT #1970 : http://trac.parrot.org/parrot/ticket/1970 |
| 03:45 |
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dalek |
TT #1970 closed by cotto++: test |
| 03:45 |
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dalek |
TT #1970 : http://trac.parrot.org/parrot/ticket/1970 |
| 03:45 |
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cotto |
whiteknight, when did you notice trac being broken? |
| 03:46 |
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whiteknight |
kid51 noticed this morning. I haven't really been looking at it today |
| 03:49 |
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cotto |
It looks like it wasn't completely broken for very long. The github hook caught all but the most recent batch of commits. |
| 03:49 |
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cotto |
anyway, now's a good time to file that Eval deprecation |
| 03:51 |
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whiteknight |
and the PIR compreg? |
| 03:53 |
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cotto |
Is that #1967 Deprecate IMCC compreg ? |
| 03:56 |
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sorear |
don't we need to provide an alternate way to compile PIR? |
| 03:56 |
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sorear |
we could deprecate "all uses of the PIR compreg other than VTABLE_invoke", then ensure that the replacement class has a vtable override for at least one dep cycle |
| 03:56 |
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whiteknight |
cotto: yes |
| 03:57 |
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cotto |
whiteknight, ok. What are you thoughts on pmichaud's suggestion? |
| 03:57 |
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whiteknight |
sorear: yes, we are going to have a replacement |
| 03:57 |
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whiteknight |
cotto: I haven't see his suggestion. Is it on the ticket? |
| 03:57 |
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cotto |
yes |
| 03:57 |
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cotto |
basically, go with pdd31, which defines a standard interface for compilers |
| 03:58 |
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whiteknight |
cotto: yes, that was basically my idea. I didn't list all the specifics in the ticket |
| 03:58 |
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whiteknight |
but yes, we are going to make a PDD31-alike PMC type for the PIR compiler object |
| 03:58 |
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whiteknight |
and use that to replace the current NCI PMC that it uses |
| 03:59 |
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cotto |
whiteknight: by all means, go for it |
| 03:59 |
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whiteknight |
awesome. I'm running some tests right now, I'll put in the deprecation notices shortly thereafter |
| 03:59 |
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cotto |
those pdds aren't going to become true of nobody follows them |
| 04:01 |
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whiteknight |
I do want to review that PDD in particular and make sure it is up to snuff |
| 04:03 |
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cotto |
atrodo, ping |
| 04:07 |
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cotto |
msg atrodo Have you given any thought to what a struct would look like in your Lorito prototype? |
| 04:07 |
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aloha |
OK. I'll deliver the message. |
| 04:13 |
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whiteknight |
is there an option for the c_output_is test functions where it won't delete the binaries after the test is over? |
| 04:14 |
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whiteknight |
I have a problem with a test, but I can't debug it because the binaries are being cleaned up by prove |
| 04:15 |
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cotto |
whiteknight, that doesn't sound like a bad idea. +1 to add such an option if you document it. |
| 04:15 |
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whiteknight |
blah |
| 04:16 |
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whiteknight |
and for the life of me I can't figure out how to compile these files myself |
| 04:16 |
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whiteknight |
When I compile with "clang $(./parrot_config libparrot_linkflags) $(./parrot_config libparrot_soname) $(./parrot_config linkflags)" it says it can't find libparrot |
| 04:16 |
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whiteknight |
so that frustrates me |
| 04:17 |
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whiteknight |
fuggedaboutit. I'm going to bed |
| 04:17 |
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cotto |
'night |
| 04:17 |
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whiteknight |
goodnight |
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Coke |
(easiest way to deprecate compreg "PIR" and replace it with a new compreg object is to call the new one something other than PIR. |
| 04:18 |
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Coke |
then you avoid having to dance. |
| 04:27 |
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cotto |
atrodo++ |
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dukeleto |
~~ |
| 06:21 |
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dukeleto |
Coke: perhaps we should call it PIR++ ... |
| 06:23 |
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plobsing |
call it what it is, IMCC |
| 06:23 |
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cotto |
+1 to imcc |
| 06:28 |
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dalek |
parrot: 9dad052 | dukeleto++ | NEWS: |
| 06:28 |
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dalek |
parrot: [doc] Add some meat to NEWS |
| 06:28 |
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dalek |
parrot: review: https://github.com/parrot/parr[…]commit/9dad0521fa |
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* cotto |
remembers that updating NEWS was on his todo list for today. |
| 06:29 |
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dukeleto |
cotto: yeah, a lot has happened during GCI that is not in NEWS |
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* dukeleto |
starts up the debian-sparc64 smoker, now that smolder seems to be back up |
| 06:51 |
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cotto |
dukeleto, how would you summarize the testing you're doing with the gcc compile farm? |
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cotto |
that should go in NEWS |
| 07:02 |
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dukeleto |
cotto: i will add something |
| 07:02 |
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dukeleto |
cotto: http://smolder.parrot.org/app/[…]port_details/2988 <-- first smolder report from the sparc smoker in the gcc compile farm |
| 07:04 |
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cotto |
dukeleto, ok |
| 07:07 |
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cotto |
dukeleto, is there an easy way to get a list of everyone who's contributed to Parrot since the last release, including people who had branches merged in from external repos? |
| 07:09 |
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dukeleto |
cotto: yeah |
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dukeleto |
cotto: https://github.com/visionmedia/git-extras |
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dukeleto |
cotto: and use the "git summary" tool |
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cotto |
dukeleto++ |
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cotto |
bluescreen is Mariano Wahlmann, right? |
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cotto |
verified |
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dukeleto |
cotto: CREDITS should have most of the info you want, and if it doesn't, please add it there |
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cotto |
dukeleto, right. In this case it didn't. The #ffmpeg folks were helpful though. |
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dukeleto |
Rubinius was ported to HaikuOS and NetBSD in the last few weeks. |
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cotto |
dukeleto, are you adding anything more to NEWS? |
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cotto |
git seems lta at merging NEWS changes |
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cotto |
seen nwellnhof |
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nwellnhof was last seen in #parrot 14 hours 9 mins ago joining the channel. |
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cotto |
msg kid51 Could you set up a poll for the next PDS time? It's coming up pretty quickly. |
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aloha |
OK. I'll deliver the message. |
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dalek |
parrot: 86dce60 | cotto++ | NEWS: |
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dalek |
parrot: add a couple misc news items |
| 09:13 |
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dalek |
parrot: review: https://github.com/parrot/parr[…]commit/86dce602aa |
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dalek |
parrot: 778fb90 | cotto++ | CREDITS: |
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dalek |
parrot: add gci students to CREDITS |
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dalek |
parrot: review: https://github.com/parrot/parr[…]commit/778fb901a7 |
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dalek |
parrot: e8dca43 | cotto++ | NEWS: |
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dalek |
parrot: add more NEWS items, tweak formatting some more |
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dalek |
parrot: review: https://github.com/parrot/parr[…]commit/e8dca4384c |
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https://github.com/parrot/parr[…]dca4384c/NEWS#L15 -- shouldn't that be "now lives"? |
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dalek |
parrot: ea7ad98 | bacek++ | NEWS: |
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dalek |
parrot: Fix typo. tadzik++ |
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dalek |
parrot: review: https://github.com/parrot/parr[…]commit/ea7ad981d1 |
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dalek |
nqp-rx: e657b28 | bacek++ | / (2 files): |
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dalek |
nqp-rx: Add default value for into RPA.join to follow Perl6 setting closely |
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dalek |
nqp-rx: review: https://github.com/perl6/nqp-rx/commit/e657b280d6 |
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dalek |
nqp-rx: 2613f07 | bacek++ | t/setting/01-resizablepmcarray.t: |
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dalek |
nqp-rx: Add test for RPA.map |
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dalek |
nqp-rx: review: https://github.com/perl6/nqp-rx/commit/2613f07cb2 |
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whiteknight |
good morning, #parrot |
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bacek |
whiteknight, aloha |
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whiteknight |
good morning, bacek. How are you doing today? |
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bacek |
whiteknight, very sleepy of first 25 minutes of today. It's Monday here already :) |
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whiteknight |
yeah, I've been up since 3:30 AM, so I'm very sleepy |
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whiteknight |
but at least it isn't monday |
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bacek |
whiteknight, welcome to the future :) |
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dalek |
tracwiki: v1 | whiteknight++ | WhiteknightTasklist |
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dalek |
tracwiki: +a quick tasklist for myself. All the cool kids are doing it. |
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dalek |
tracwiki: http://trac.parrot.org/parrot/[…]ion=1&action=diff |
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parrot/nqp_pct: 9ab0d4b | bacek++ | compilers/pct/src/POST/Compiler.pm: |
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dalek |
parrot/nqp_pct: Rewrite POST::Compiler.pir(POST::Op) to nqp. |
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dalek |
parrot/nqp_pct: review: https://github.com/parrot/parr[…]commit/9ab0d4b5f4 |
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dalek |
parrot/nqp_pct: b67fb0b | bacek++ | compilers/pct/src/POST/ (13 files): |
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dalek |
parrot/nqp_pct: Rebootstrap PCT |
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dalek |
parrot/nqp_pct: review: https://github.com/parrot/parr[…]commit/b67fb0b9ac |
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parrot/nqp_pct: a4db63e | bacek++ | compilers/pct/src/POST/Compiler.pm: |
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dalek |
parrot/nqp_pct: Rewrite POST::Compiler.hll_pir to nqp. |
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dalek |
parrot/nqp_pct: review: https://github.com/parrot/parr[…]commit/a4db63e29b |
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dalek |
parrot/nqp_pct: d804e66 | bacek++ | compilers/pct/src/POST/ (13 files): |
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dalek |
parrot/nqp_pct: Rebootstrap PCT |
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dalek |
parrot/nqp_pct: review: https://github.com/parrot/parr[…]commit/d804e6679e |
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parrot/nqp_pct: 851b54b | bacek++ | / (65 files): |
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dalek |
parrot/nqp_pct: Merge branch 'master' into nqp_pct |
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parrot/nqp_pct: review: https://github.com/parrot/parr[…]commit/851b54bec5 |
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parrot/imcc_cleanups: ca855f2 | Whiteknight++ | / (4 files): |
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dalek |
parrot/imcc_cleanups: implement the test for Parrot_api_serialize_bytecode_pmc. Fix some ARG modifiers to allow nulls, since we have logic in there to handle nulls |
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parrot/imcc_cleanups: review: https://github.com/parrot/parr[…]commit/ca855f2ca1 |
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dalek |
tracwiki: jimmy++ | continuation-closure-passing.ps.gz attached to LoritoCPSTutorial |
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tracwiki: implementing a CPS code generator for ML |
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tracwiki: http://trac.parrot.org/parrot/[…]ps.gz&action=diff |
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tracwiki: jimmy++ | stal-tic.pdf attached to LoritoCPSTutorial |
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dalek |
tracwiki: <span class="icon">�</span>http://www.cs.cornell.edu/talc[…]pers/stal-tic.pdf</a> |
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tracwiki: http://trac.parrot.org/parrot/[…]c.pdf&action=diff |
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nqp-rx/nom: c759804 | jonathan++ | src/NQP/Actions.pm: |
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nqp-rx/nom: Get basic case of multi-subs in place. Just handles lexical case and multis in nested scopes are probably busted still. |
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nqp-rx/nom: review: https://github.com/perl6/nqp-rx/commit/c759804e85 |
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nqp-rx/nom: 46a10cd | jonathan++ | t/nqp/51-multi.t: |
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nqp-rx/nom: Replace old multi-dispatch tests. Multi-method dispatch is now in a separate test file, added yesterday. 51-multi.t will now just test multi subs. Needs more tests, but does cover arity based dispatch and that the proto functions as it should - being called first then delegating to the multi-dispatcher. |
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nqp-rx/nom: review: https://github.com/perl6/nqp-rx/commit/46a10cde6e |
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blizkost: bca8b6c | qiuhw++ | Configure.pl: |
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blizkost: The warning about "Perl is not built as a dynamic library" was actually never reported, fix it. |
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blizkost: |
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blizkost: And the newest parrot_config don't have a 'cc_hasjit' key if it's empty. |
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blizkost: review: https://github.com/jnthn/blizk[…]commit/bca8b6c0dc |
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parrot: 48da21a | nwellnhof++ | t/src/embed/strings.t: |
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parrot: [t] Fix t/src/embed/strings.t with MSVC |
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parrot: review: https://github.com/parrot/parr[…]commit/48da21aff0 |
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parrot/nqp_pct: 1f02017 | jimmy++ | compilers/pct/src/POST/Node.pm: |
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parrot/nqp_pct: added missing =cut |
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parrot/nqp_pct: review: https://github.com/parrot/parr[…]commit/1f020173a3 |
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I am getting a failure in t/pmc/float.t (g++ --optimize) - Failed test: 102 - comparison ops: cmp_p_p: equality (passes g++ without --optimize and gcc - Ubuntu 10.10 i386) |
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mikehh: Unable to reproduce that on an older Debian, with all other arguments same as yours |
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kid51: looking at it - it works with g++ (no --optimize) and gcc with or without --optimize |
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I am using gcc/g++ 4.5.1 |
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parrot/imcc_cleanups: bd67e17 | Whiteknight++ | / (2 files): |
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parrot/imcc_cleanups: add temporary .c files to .gitignore. Also, unlike temporary files used by tests |
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parrot/imcc_cleanups: review: https://github.com/parrot/parr[…]commit/bd67e176b1 |
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parrot/imcc_cleanups: 255a8d8 | Whiteknight++ | / (5 files): |
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parrot/imcc_cleanups: move -G commandline argument parsing from IMCC into the frontend |
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parrot/imcc_cleanups: review: https://github.com/parrot/parr[…]commit/255a8d8f91 |
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parrot/imcc_cleanups: 9c5ae86 | Whiteknight++ | compilers/imcc/ (2 files): |
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parrot/imcc_cleanups: remove -w argument processing from IMCC. It's handled in the frontend |
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parrot/imcc_cleanups: review: https://github.com/parrot/parr[…]commit/9c5ae86565 |
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parrot/imcc_cleanups: 020e292 | Whiteknight++ | compilers/imcc/main.c: |
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parrot/imcc_cleanups: do not Parrot_destroy in IMCC |
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parrot/imcc_cleanups: review: https://github.com/parrot/parr[…]commit/020e29232c |
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parrot/imcc_cleanups: 2442dea | Whiteknight++ | compilers/imcc/main.c: |
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parrot/imcc_cleanups: small cleanup |
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parrot/imcc_cleanups: review: https://github.com/parrot/parr[…]commit/2442dea1dd |
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parrot/imcc_cleanups: b523125 | Whiteknight++ | compilers/imcc/ (2 files): |
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parrot/imcc_cleanups: remove two dead functions |
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parrot/imcc_cleanups: review: https://github.com/parrot/parr[…]commit/b523125f30 |
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parrot/imcc_cleanups: b606d3d | Whiteknight++ | compilers/imcc/ (4 files): |
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parrot/imcc_cleanups: Add in some notes to tell where various IMCC call-in functions are being used. Consolidate the register_compilers function |
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parrot/imcc_cleanups: review: https://github.com/parrot/parr[…]commit/b606d3defa |
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me: g++ --versiong++ (Debian 4.3.2-1.1) 4.3.2 |
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parrot: 147e2d8 | Whiteknight++ | DEPRECATED.pod: |
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parrot: add two deprecation notices |
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parrot: review: https://github.com/parrot/parr[…]commit/147e2d8fcc |
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aloha: clock |
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aloha: clock? |
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good morning |
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msg whiteknight: if there is not going to be a PASM compreg, perhaps we should deprecate PASM altogether. |
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OK. I'll deliver the message. |
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plobsing, that'll mean translating a lot of pasm tests. |
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cotto: I've done that a number of times already. Most tests in PASM don't depend on their language of implementation. |
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and those that do usually have duplicate PIR tests to ensure constructs work in both languages |
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but my main argument is that, if we are removing the visibility of PASM to hosted languages, we should take it away altogether to keep everyone on equal footing. |
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tracwiki: v33 | cotto++ | CottoTasklist |
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tracwiki: http://trac.parrot.org/parrot/[…]on=33&action=diff |
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plobsing, M0 will need some kind of struct-like functionality. Do you think it'd be sane to base M0 structs on bytes? |
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will think |
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cotto: I think you should consider what kinds of elements M0 needs in those structs. I suspect it will consist of only a small set of types. M0 shouldn't need a fullblown ManagedStruct. |
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t/pmc/float.t - Failed test: 102 with g++ configured with --optimize (passes without and with gcc) on both Ubuntu 10.04 i386 and Ubuntu 10.10 i386 (g++ 4.4.3 and 4.5.1) |
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TT #1971 created by rgrjr++: Oplib paths are truncated in PBC files |
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TT #1971 : http://trac.parrot.org/parrot/ticket/1971 |
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TT #1972 created by rgrjr++: Can't compile with TRACE_PACKFILE set |
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TT #1972 : http://trac.parrot.org/parrot/ticket/1972 |
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TT #1973 created by rgrjr++: pbc_merge fails silently |
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TT #1973 : http://trac.parrot.org/parrot/ticket/1973 |
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http://parrots4parties.com/ |
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TT #1974 created by rgrjr++: Fixing GMP check on 32-bit system exposes test failure |
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TT #1974 : http://trac.parrot.org/parrot/ticket/1974 |
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http://trac.parrot.org/parrot/[…]LoritoCPSTutorial looks useful |
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parrot: 3c1e33b | dukeleto++ | t/dynoplibs/trans.t: |
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parrot: [t][TT #1974 ] Fix GMP check and test skips in t/dynoplibs/trans.t, rgrjr++ |
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parrot: review: https://github.com/parrot/parr[…]commit/3c1e33b113 |
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TT #1974 closed by dukeleto++: Fixing GMP check on 32-bit system exposes test failure |
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TT #1974 : http://trac.parrot.org/parrot/ticket/1974 |
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dukeleto |
the docs for test_more.pir were never updated to describe the new todo => "blarg" feature |
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parrot: 7c15738 | dukeleto++ | NEWS: |
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parrot: [t] More NEWS updates |
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parrot: review: https://github.com/parrot/parr[…]commit/7c15738da7 |
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This is still a good read: http://www.oreillynet.com/onla[…]d_parrot_hac.html |
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dukeleto: your last commit missewd a branch around the skip - runs the tests and then tries to skip the tests |
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mikehh |
missed |
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mikehh |
fixed, shall I commit it? |
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parrot: c2077d1 | mikehh++ | t/dynoplibs/trans.t: |
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parrot: branch around skipped tests so they don't get skipped if they have been already tested |
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parrot: review: https://github.com/parrot/parr[…]commit/c2077d10d3 |
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mikehh: thanks for fixing that |
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mikehh++ |
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All tests PASS (pre/post-config, make corevm/make coretest, smoke (#3141) fulltest) at 2_11_0-1163-gc2077d1 - Kubuntu 10.10 amd64 (g++-4.5 with --optimize) |
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plobsing: any reason you assigned the Oplib TT to me? |
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nope. I suspect you get auto-assigned tasks tagged 'tools' |
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I suspect cotto or bacek would be better people for the task, seeing as there is an ops2c bug. |
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plobsing: yeah, i don't know that I want to be auto-assigned tools tasks |
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plobsing |
yes, you appear as the owner of the 'tools' component in the Trac Admin page. Not sure how to change that. |
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bacek_at_work |
plobsing, which bug? |
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ohai |
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dukeleto, did you get a test from rgrjr? |
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ah. I see he filed a bug. It's nice to see something from him. |
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cotto: he filed 4 trac tickets this morning, iirc |
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cotto: http://6guts.wordpress.com/201[…]n-parrot-and-jvm/ |
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cotto |
bacek_at_work, #1971 |
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cotto |
dukeleto, thanks. I'll read that as soon as I'm caught up with the bug queue |
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cotto, it's not related to "tools", "ops2c" or whatever. It's some stupidity in loading libraries. |
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6model Overview: https://github.com/jnthn/6mode[…]ster/overview.pod |
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Hello |
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spreadsheet |
So, if my understanding is correct, with other VMs like Java, you will need an additional runtime to run a program written in another languages besides Java, even though it's compiled JVM bytecode |
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spreadsheet |
With Parrot, will I need additional runtimes to run say, a Python program? |
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spreadsheet |
If I do, then is the runtime smaller than a regular Python interpreter? |
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dukeleto |
spreadsheet: parrot has a runtime, and all languages that run on parrot use that runtime |
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spreadsheet |
Ahh ok |
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spreadsheet |
dukeleto: if I wanted to have an interactive prompt, would that be possible? |
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spreadsheet: yep |
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dukeleto |
spreadsheet: rakudo perl 6, (perl 6 on parrot), has an interactive prompt when you run it with no arguments |
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spreadsheet |
ok |
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spreadsheet: also, welcome to #parrot |
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spreadsheet |
Thanks |
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spreadsheet: how did you hear about Parrot? |
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spreadsheet |
dukeleto: I heard about it because I heard about Perl 6 |
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spreadsheet |
And rakudo perl |
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spreadsheet: yeah, that is what happened to me too :) |
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didn't know that |
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spreadsheet: and to answer your question about bytecode, Parrot has it's own kind of bytecode, similar to the JVM's |
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spreadsheet |
So does it have as good scaling support, that is, for big websites, as Python or JVM? |
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spreadsheet |
Well Python, JVM is more mature |
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cotto: i started out by getting a commit bit to the perl 6 spec test suite, and it only took me less than a day to run into a Parrot bug. The rest is history... |
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spreadsheet: you should think of Parrot as mostly a set of compilers and a runtime for languages to sit on |
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spreadsheet: you don't exactly write a website in Parrot or JVM |
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spreadsheet |
Well I know that |
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spreadsheet: what do you mean by "scaling support" ? |
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I mean, say I have a Python website. It takes a lot of traffic. Then I have a Rakudo Perl site... would it be the same stability? |
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spreadsheet: define stability |
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spreadsheet: currently Rakudo Perl 6 is still getting huge performance improvements, so I wouldn't run a production website with it yet. But that is me. |
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spreadsheet |
not crashing because of memory problems, having memory leaks, performance |
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spreadsheet: see above |
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spreadsheet |
Ok |
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spreadsheet: both parrot and rakudo are getting lots of performance optimizations as we speak |
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spreadsheet: there is a new branch that will be merged post parrot 3.0 (due on tuesday) that makes Rakudo a lot faster and use less memory |
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spreadsheet |
dukeleto: if I had a GTK+ or Qt wrapper for Parrot, would I be able to use it with any language, like with the JVM? JVM libraries are able to be used by any language |
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spreadsheet: that is the goal. I would say "yes, in theory", but there could be some rough edges still |
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spreadsheet: we have an opengl wrapper and postgresql wrapper in parrot, but they might need some love |
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spreadsheet |
So, in the future, does the Parrot community see Parrot as being the main way to run dynamic languages on Unix-like OS? |
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spreadsheet: we would like to think so. But there are lots of other VMs for dynamic languages, such as Rubinius and NekoVM |
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spreadsheet: but Parrot is the only dynamic VM that wants to support all dynamic languages |
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spreadsheet: to my knowledge, everyone else makes some restrictions on how you implement the dynamic language. With Rubinius, you must use Ruby, for example. |
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spreadsheet: with Parrot, we try to make everything pluggable, so it is up to the language author to decide |
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dukeleto |
spreadsheet: we give some tools, but any tools can be used, in theory :) |
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cotto |
I'd like to see a generation of dynamic language implementations that target Parrot but are mostly self-hosted. |
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cotto: yes |
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cotto |
Some language cultures aren't going to want to get away from their language of choice, and who's to say that they're wrong. |
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cotto: the perl 6 peeps sure do like to dogfood their compilers :) |
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