Camelia, the Perl 6 bug

IRC log for #parrot, 2011-05-08

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00:12 Tene_ whiteknight: there's an http api for interacting with the tracker, but it's kind of limited :(
00:12 whiteknight on github?
00:12 Tene_ yeah
00:12 Tene_ http://develop.github.com/p/issues.html
00:13 bubaflub Tene_: i think there is a new version of the API http://developer.github.com/v3/issues/
00:13 whiteknight yeah, but their API has been growing pretty steadily
00:15 whiteknight comparatively, does trac have any external API at all?
00:15 whiteknight anything would seem to be better than nothing
00:23 plobsing the closest I could find was App::SD's interface to trac, which scrapes content
00:24 plobsing it works remarkably well
00:31 whiteknight I've been pretty unhappy about most of our infrastructural software choices. I haven't found the drupal website to be particularly function or easy to maintain
00:31 whiteknight I haven't been happy with trac in any way
00:31 whiteknight and smolder is what keeps bringing down the whole VM because it eats up all available memory
00:31 whiteknight and disk space
00:33 plobsing I'm happy with them insofar as I didn't have to make the decisions, don't have to act on them, and am not significantly affected by them 90% of the time.
00:34 plobsing ignorance is bliss
00:34 whiteknight I'm becoming increasingly convinced that we could move to github for most things. Our page and docs could go on github pages very easily
00:34 whiteknight and since they would be git repos, they would be more accessible and easier to modify
00:34 whiteknight We could host blogs on there from all parrot developers, and post them via pull request
00:34 plobsing and when github goes down?
00:36 Tene_ we could have a clone of the repo on the relevant VM
00:36 whiteknight plobsing: do they go down any more often than parrot.org goes down?
00:37 whiteknight and Tene_ has my answer as well: We can easily mirror static html pages on parrot.org
00:37 whiteknight host a read-only git mirror there too
00:40 NotFound I'm not happy with the lack of 't' after the nci changes.
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02:10 cotto ~~
02:21 plobsing msg whiteknight another threading/gc issue we'll have to deal with is stack scanning (threads introduce multiple stacks). I know this code gets a bad rap and the initial instinct is to say "ditch it", but registering and unregistering all stack objects would create quite a lot of noise (in the source, in the machine code, etc) rivalling or exceeding refcounting. An alternative, registering and managing multiple stacks to scan, could require m
02:21 aloha OK. I'll deliver the message.
02:29 cotto plobsing, looks like that got truncated
02:30 Tene plobsing: you should install the splitlong.pl irssi plugin
02:31 plobsing Tene: I'll look into that now
02:47 tcurtis ~~
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03:12 cotto Apparently I can migrate all my firefox state to a new machine with a different architecture just by copying ~/.mozilla.
03:12 cotto I definitely didn't expect that to work.
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05:13 dalek parrot.github.com: dfb349d | dukeleto++ | LICENSE:
05:13 dalek parrot.github.com: Add a license file
05:13 dalek parrot.github.com: review: https://github.com/parrot/parro​t.github.com/commit/dfb349db0e
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08:36 bacek ~~
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10:40 whiteknight good morning, #parrot
10:40 tadzik heisenbugs, heisenbugs everywhere!
10:40 tadzik hello whiteknight
10:41 whiteknight helo tadzik
10:44 whiteknight we have heisenbugs?
10:45 tadzik no, I hope not
10:46 tadzik I just sat to my MIPS project with a feeling that it's broken. I'm quite sure it will magically become broken again few processor ticks after I send it to my lecturer
10:47 tadzik "hey bits, look, this dork isn't looking again!"
10:53 whiteknight :)
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12:14 dalek winxed: r982 | NotFound++ | trunk/winxedst1.winxed:
12:14 dalek winxed: several minor refactors of parsing and emiting loops
12:14 dalek winxed: review: http://code.google.com/p/w​inxed/source/detail?r=982
12:35 dalek winxed: r983 | NotFound++ | trunk/t/basic/05new.t:
12:35 dalek winxed: more tests for operator new
12:35 dalek winxed: review: http://code.google.com/p/w​inxed/source/detail?r=983
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14:15 dalek winxed: r984 | NotFound++ | trunk/winxedst1.winxed:
14:15 dalek winxed: fix a mistake in namespace addload
14:15 dalek winxed: review: http://code.google.com/p/w​inxed/source/detail?r=984
14:19 dalek parrot: 5bcdb0a | luben++ | t/run/options.t:
14:19 dalek parrot: add test for --gc-nursery-size runtime option
14:19 dalek parrot: review: https://github.com/parrot/parrot/commit/5bcdb0a0e8
14:25 dalek winxed: r985 | NotFound++ | trunk/winxedst1.winxed:
14:25 dalek winxed: experimental use of 'using extern' at namespace level to load and import
14:25 dalek winxed: review: http://code.google.com/p/w​inxed/source/detail?r=985
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15:39 dalek winxed: r986 | NotFound++ | trunk/winxedst0.cpp:
15:39 dalek winxed: backport namespace level 'using extern' to stage 0
15:39 dalek winxed: review: http://code.google.com/p/w​inxed/source/detail?r=986
15:39 dalek winxed: r987 | NotFound++ | trunk/winxedst1.winxed:
15:39 dalek winxed: delete a debug statement accidentaly left in r985
15:39 dalek winxed: review: http://code.google.com/p/w​inxed/source/detail?r=987
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15:49 dalek winxed: r988 | NotFound++ | trunk/t/ (12 files):
15:49 dalek winxed: use namespace level 'using extern' is tests
15:49 dalek winxed: review: http://code.google.com/p/w​inxed/source/detail?r=988
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16:05 dalek TT #2105 created by jkeenan++: New build failure on darwin/PPC at runtime/parrot/library/YAML/Tiny.pir
16:05 dalek TT #2105: http://trac.parrot.org/parrot/ticket/2105
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19:55 dalek winxed: r989 | NotFound++ | trunk/winxedst1.winxed:
19:55 dalek winxed: some more simplifications of lists parsing
19:55 dalek winxed: review: http://code.google.com/p/w​inxed/source/detail?r=989
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22:20 pmichaud I'll write more about it later...but here's a preliminary report with some new benchmarks
22:20 pmichaud http://gist.github.com/961736
22:20 pmichaud short summary:  according to this, parrot performance has not improved since 2011.01
22:20 pmichaud (okay, rakudo on parrot performance)
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22:21 pmichaud afk, dinner -- bbl
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23:03 whiteknight I suspect bacek's patch does not work on x86_64 as well as it does on x86
23:23 plobsing I was thinking that those (x & 3)s should really be (x & 7)s on 64-bit
23:24 plobsing that would help the filtering slightly
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23:44 whiteknight yeah, I'm putting together a patch for that
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23:56 whiteknight it bugs me to no end that sizeof() cannot be used in preprocessor conditionals

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