Camelia, the Perl 6 bug

IRC log for #parrot, 2011-12-21

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00:26 whiteknight good evening, #parrot
01:02 kid51 cotto pong
01:16 cotto kid51: is there any limitation on who can run an election for the PaFo board?
01:16 cotto hio whiteknight
01:23 kid51 cotto: No, I don't believe there is.  In 2010, particle chaired but smash served as Elections Secretary or something.  The By-laws are on the web site and they define the rules.
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01:42 cotto kid51: ok.  That sounds like what I need to know.  My reading of the bylaws gave me the same impression.
01:52 benabik Wow.  We have bylaws.
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02:31 dalek parrot/233/file_based_config: 9691780 | jkeenan++ | Configure.pl:
02:31 dalek parrot/233/file_based_config: Modify documentation re file-based configuration to respond to problem raised by gerdr++ in https://github.com/parrot/parrot/issues/233.
02:31 dalek parrot/233/file_based_config: review: https://github.com/parrot/parrot/commit/96917801b6
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03:38 cotto ~~
03:55 cotto particle, ping
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07:44 moritz where can I find instructions on how to view the output of the subprof runcore?
07:49 cotto moritz, if it's not documented, talk to mls
07:50 cotto I don't know if there is any documentation
07:51 cotto seen mls
07:51 aloha mls was last seen in #parrot 12 days 18 hours ago saying "(this will slow down parrot quite a bit, so it's only for debugging purposes)".
07:55 moritz ah, it seems that kcachegrind understands the output
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13:54 Coke moritz: you feeling better today?
13:58 moritz Coke: a bit
14:05 Coke moritz: \o_
14:23 dalek parrot.github.com: 8f13d9c | alvis++ | / (880 files):
14:23 dalek parrot.github.com: Update 'parrot.github.com' to the '3.11.0-devel' release.
14:23 dalek parrot.github.com: review: https://github.com/parrot/parro​t.github.com/commit/8f13d9c2cd
14:55 dalek parrot.github.com: bcb1cc2 | alvis++ | revisions/ (6 files):
14:55 dalek parrot.github.com: Remove 'revisions/' 'cause it shouldn't be there.
14:55 dalek parrot.github.com: review: https://github.com/parrot/parro​t.github.com/commit/bcb1cc2188
14:59 dalek parrot.github.com: c44ae5e | alvis++ | README.pod:
14:59 dalek parrot.github.com: Add 'README.pod' back in to correct the 'oops'.
14:59 dalek parrot.github.com: review: https://github.com/parrot/parro​t.github.com/commit/c44ae5e573
15:16 dalek parrot.github.com: 9dde049 | alvis++ | NOTE:
15:16 dalek parrot.github.com: Try to force 'parrot.github.com' to rebuild.
15:16 dalek parrot.github.com: review: https://github.com/parrot/parro​t.github.com/commit/9dde049ab6
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17:21 fperrad cotto, you forgot to push the tag RELEASE_3_11_0
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18:09 cotto fperrad, good catch
18:11 cotto fperrad, done
18:11 moritz \o
18:14 dalek nqp: fe2175d | moritz++ | tools/build/PARROT_REVISION:
18:14 dalek nqp: bump PARROT_REVISION to 3.11 release
18:14 dalek nqp: review: https://github.com/perl6/nqp/commit/fe2175d55b
18:16 dalek rakudo/nom: f2c8103 | moritz++ | tools/build/NQP_REVISION:
18:16 dalek rakudo/nom: bump to an NQP that requires parrot 3.11
18:16 dalek rakudo/nom: review: https://github.com/rakudo/rakudo/commit/f2c8103caf
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19:17 cotto ~~
19:17 cotto fperrad++
19:37 dalek rakudo/nom: 18f12d5 | moritz++ | t/spectest.data:
19:37 dalek rakudo/nom: run Proxy tests
19:38 dalek rakudo/nom: review: https://github.com/rakudo/rakudo/commit/18f12d5812
20:44 dalek Guitor: 7874333 | NotFound++ | examples/pokedit.winxed:
20:44 dalek Guitor: select all and new in pokedit
20:44 dalek Guitor: review: https://github.com/NotFoun​d/Guitor/commit/7874333cd3
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21:02 cotto dukeleto: ping
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23:17 alvis cotto: ping
23:18 cotto alvis: pong
23:18 alvis cotto: there's a problem with 'parrot.github.com'; it's too big now and won't rebuild ...
23:19 alvis i thought i'd pull out some of the older docs; is that ok with you?
23:20 cotto alvis: that's an unusual problem.  It's highly likely we can delete some stuff without losing anything important, so go ahead.
23:20 cotto what do you mean "won't rebuild"?
23:20 cotto it makes github sad?
23:21 alvis cotto: it takes too long to rebuild and so the server times out ...
23:21 alvis the github folks are saying they can't rebuild it either because it times out.
23:22 alvis for example, i can't get it to refresh the 'index.html' page becaue it won't rebuild.
23:23 alvis s/becaue/because/
23:23 cotto alvis: ok.  This makes me curious about what we've got in there.
23:24 alvis cotto: it's *all* of the documents from 3.11.0-devel to 0.2.0
23:24 cotto oh
23:24 cotto that makes it a bit less surprising
23:24 alvis cotto: dukeleto wanted everything, but i don't think we can get 'em all in.
23:24 alvis cotto: right.
23:25 cotto I'm happy having the historical stuff on docs.parrot.org
23:25 cotto and updated per-release
23:25 cotto and only having the most recent version on github
23:26 alvis cotto: so, say, from 1.0.0? what do you think?
23:27 cotto It's your call.  I don't see a point in having any of the historical (i.e. not the most recent) docs on github.
23:28 alvis cotto: ok. i's just followin' what dukeleto said he wanted.  i'll limit it to 3.0.0 and close the ticket ...
23:28 alvis besides, folks can pull the tags if they really want 'em.
23:30 cotto alvis: which ticket?
23:31 alvis cotto: #2 on https://github.com/parrot/parrot.github.com/issue​s?sort=created&direction=desc&state=open
23:31 cotto alvis: thanks
23:32 cotto alvis: I think you're misinterpreting what dukeleto wants.
23:32 cotto He just wants a page that links to each version of the docs, not necessarily every of the docs on github.
23:32 alvis cotto: hmm, possible, but i don't think so.  i've followed up with him a'bit since that ticket.
23:33 cotto It'd be helpful if that discussion were part of the issue.
23:33 cotto (for future reference)
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23:34 alvis cotto: ok.
23:36 alvis cotto: not to be a pita, but ... doesn't "a page that links to each version of the docs" imply access to those docs on github...
23:37 cotto alvis: you're *very* far from being a pita
23:37 alvis so, if you go to 'parrot.github.com' and click on the 'Parrot Documentation Releases (3.8.0 - 0.2.0)" link ...
23:37 alvis it takes go to a page of links to the docs?
23:37 cotto alvis: I don't read it that way, but language is imperfect at serializing thoughts
23:37 alvis cotto: agreed. :(
23:38 cotto let me add my $.02 to the ticket
23:38 alvis cotto: 'k
23:39 cotto github++ for tab completion in the issue edit box
23:41 cotto it even lists "@leto" as a completion for "@du"
23:42 * cotto hopes that dukeleto's new gig won't interfere with his parrot hacking
23:42 * alvis me too!
23:43 alvis cotto: in the interim, 'parrot.github.com' won't rebuild.  so, how 'bout i pull it back to 3.10.0 - 3.0.0 and wait for further direction?
23:43 cotto alvis: yeah.  get yourself unblocked and we can make everyone happy later
23:43 alvis cotto: sounds good and thanks!
23:44 cotto this is one of those nice problems whose solution can be easily reversed
23:44 alvis :)
23:55 cotto alvis: what's your dayjob?
23:58 alvis cotto: a'bit of consultant work; mostly with the local university.
23:59 alvis cotto: a few, other clients as well; mostly financial guys; and coupl'a lawyers.

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