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00:04 alvis twelve years ago, i was doing ai work at ubc in vancouver; then 'bout five years of legal practice ...
00:05 alvis five years of professor of political science and law; then ... a heart attack (at 45) ...
00:05 alvis so, now ..., pretty much ... only what i *want* to do.
00:06 cotto that's a good feeling if you're self-directed enough to make it work
00:07 alvis cotto: well, my 40 year-old wife is pregnant with my fourth child; so ..., i'm a'bit more motivated these days.
00:08 alvis cotto: sorry ... i'm just a'bit stunned with that latter bit. ;)
00:10 cotto that's both exciting and highly motivating
00:10 alvis cotto: yes, yes it is. :)
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00:35 dalek parrot.github.com: b41cd3b | alvis++ | / (64219 files):
00:35 dalek parrot.github.com: Rolling back 'parrot.github.com' docs to only versions 3.10.0 to 3.0.0 and of course the current release.
00:35 dalek parrot.github.com: review: https://github.com/parrot/parro​t.github.com/commit/b41cd3b4f3
00:40 dalek parrot.github.com: 85dbbe7 | alvis++ | releases.html:
00:40 dalek parrot.github.com: Changed 'Parrot version 3.9.0-devel' to 'Parrot version 3.11.0-devel' in releases.html
00:40 dalek parrot.github.com: review: https://github.com/parrot/parro​t.github.com/commit/85dbbe7b11
00:42 alvis and 'parrot.github.com' rebuilds!
00:47 cotto alvis++
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01:42 cotto hi whiteknight
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07:13 cotto ~~
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08:57 aloha (parrot/parrot.github.com) Issues opened : 5 (Github times out generating docs for all Parrot versions) by leto : https://github.com/parrot/​parrot.github.com/issues/5
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11:59 dalek rakudo/nom: 89353cb | tadzik++ | lib/Pod/To/Text.pm:
11:59 dalek rakudo/nom: [Pod::To::Text] Make tables a bit more pleasant to look at
11:59 dalek rakudo/nom: review: https://github.com/rakudo/rakudo/commit/89353cb748
12:16 dalek rakudo/nom: 3b7a158 | moritz++ | docs/ChangeLog:
12:16 dalek rakudo/nom: update ChangeLog in preparation for the 2011.12 release
12:16 dalek rakudo/nom:
12:16 dalek rakudo/nom: quite an impressive list IMHO
12:16 dalek rakudo/nom: review: https://github.com/rakudo/rakudo/commit/3b7a15888f
12:29 dalek rakudo/nom: e954381 | tadzik++ | / (2 files):
12:29 dalek rakudo/nom: [Pod] Fix configuration for tables
12:29 dalek rakudo/nom: review: https://github.com/rakudo/rakudo/commit/e954381007
12:29 dalek rakudo/nom: f5ef031 | tadzik++ | lib/Pod/To/Text.pm:
12:29 dalek rakudo/nom: [Pod::To::Text] Fix handling of table caption
12:29 dalek rakudo/nom: review: https://github.com/rakudo/rakudo/commit/f5ef031e78
13:12 dalek rakudo/nom: b0f466f | (Solomon Foster)++ | lib/Test.pm:
13:12 dalek rakudo/nom: Base tolerance in is_approx on the size of the expected result.
13:12 dalek rakudo/nom: review: https://github.com/rakudo/rakudo/commit/b0f466fe83
13:22 dalek rakudo/nom: 98040f5 | moritz++ | docs/ (2 files):
13:22 dalek rakudo/nom: preliminary release annoucement
13:22 dalek rakudo/nom: review: https://github.com/rakudo/rakudo/commit/98040f5b6f
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13:27 dalek nqp: 38d9792 | moritz++ | docs/release_guide.pod:
13:27 dalek nqp: add a step to release guide: bump VERSION
13:27 dalek nqp: review: https://github.com/perl6/nqp/commit/38d9792941
13:45 dalek nqp: f7ef779 | moritz++ | VERSION:
13:45 dalek nqp: bump VERSION
13:45 dalek nqp: review: https://github.com/perl6/nqp/commit/f7ef779321
13:49 dalek rakudo/nom: 2746edb | moritz++ | docs/announce/2011.12:
13:49 dalek rakudo/nom: fix typo, wollmers++
13:49 dalek rakudo/nom: review: https://github.com/rakudo/rakudo/commit/2746edbd05
14:06 dalek rakudo/nom: 6564a05 | moritz++ | tools/build/NQP_REVISION:
14:06 dalek rakudo/nom: bump to NQP 2011.12
14:06 dalek rakudo/nom: review: https://github.com/rakudo/rakudo/commit/6564a0508e
14:16 dalek rakudo/nom: 7a19259 | moritz++ | docs/announce/2011.12:
14:16 dalek rakudo/nom: [announce] small fixes by Util++
14:16 dalek rakudo/nom: review: https://github.com/rakudo/rakudo/commit/7a19259856
14:24 Coke alvis: reviewingly, I have a 40 year old wife, and 3 children, and can easily imagine how stressed out I'd be. ;)
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14:34 whiteknight good morning, #parrot
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14:58 muixirt hi
14:59 muixirt erm, are these sdl/opengl examples in parrot/examples or winxed/examples supposed to work?
15:01 muixirt error:imcc:No such file or directory 'opengl_defines.pasm'
15:01 muixirt ./parrot examples/sdl/mandel.pir
15:01 muixirt Unknown param Signature t
15:06 muixirt whiteknight?
15:12 dalek rakudo/nom: 49ce722 | moritz++ | src/core/Failure.pm:
15:12 dalek rakudo/nom: make the exception object available from Failure
15:12 dalek rakudo/nom: review: https://github.com/rakudo/rakudo/commit/49ce722dcc
15:39 whiteknight hello muixirt
15:40 whiteknight muixirt: you need to have the opengl development libraries installed on your system. Parrot should detect them during configure and will build that .pasm file
15:44 muixirt freeglut3-dev is installed
15:46 muixirt whiteknight: not sure which is the right one
15:47 whiteknight hmmm.. I think Parrot should detect that one
15:48 whiteknight I'm not much of an expert with the opengl stuff
15:56 muixirt pcre is prerequisite of opengl?
15:59 muixirt yes, it seems so, poooh
16:00 muixirt that is libpcre3-dev
16:08 whiteknight pcre is a prereq for opengl? that's weird
16:10 muixirt config/auto/opengl.pm say: # opengl depends on thunks which depend on pcre
16:14 whiteknight hmm
16:16 whiteknight yeah, try installing pcre and see if that works
16:16 whiteknight I feel like we shouldn't require pcre for that, but I really don't know the details
16:37 muixirt and SDL (parrot/runtime/parrot/library/SDL.pir) uses deprecated function signatures (Unknown param Signature t)
16:37 aloha (parrot/parrot) Issues opened : 237 (make .gitignore parsing portable) by nbrown : https://github.com/parrot/parrot/issues/237
16:37 muixirt Is PDD 16: Native Call Interface (NCI) up to date?
16:40 whiteknight probably pretty close
16:40 muixirt whiteknight: opengl examples for pir and winxed work now
16:40 whiteknight awesome
16:40 whiteknight sorry it was such a hassle
16:46 NotFound SDL need some love. People interested in it gravitated towards perl 5.
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17:23 dalek rakudo/nom: 6bbced6 | moritz++ | VERSION:
17:23 dalek rakudo/nom: [release] bump VERSION
17:23 dalek rakudo/nom: review: https://github.com/rakudo/rakudo/commit/6bbced654d
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18:15 alester I hope to have attachments saved in GH tickets soon.
18:19 dalek rakudo/nom: dfd1d7a | moritz++ | docs/release_guide.pod:
18:19 dalek rakudo/nom: update release guide
18:19 dalek rakudo/nom: review: https://github.com/rakudo/rakudo/commit/dfd1d7ac62
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18:31 whiteknight alester++
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18:50 dalek winxed: 15025e7 | NotFound++ | winxedst2.winxed:
18:50 dalek winxed: use the pir compreg in the current way, Issue 17, whiteknight++
18:50 dalek winxed: review: https://github.com/NotFoun​d/winxed/commit/15025e732b
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19:32 dalek Guitor: f827668 | NotFound++ | src/Guitor.winxed:
19:32 dalek Guitor: convenience method Window.ConvertSelection
19:32 dalek Guitor: review: https://github.com/NotFoun​d/Guitor/commit/f827668d23
19:32 dalek Guitor: 5db479e | NotFound++ | examples/pokedit.winxed:
19:32 dalek Guitor: simplify ConvertSelection usages
19:32 dalek Guitor: review: https://github.com/NotFoun​d/Guitor/commit/5db479e540
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19:58 dalek Guitor: fc99865 | NotFound++ | examples/pokedit.winxed:
19:58 dalek Guitor: some refactor of mouse press and move related functions,
19:58 dalek Guitor: middle button paste now uses pointer position
19:58 dalek Guitor: review: https://github.com/NotFoun​d/Guitor/commit/fc99865c80
20:13 alester Just sent off 2nd batch of test tickets with feedback from y'all in them.
20:14 alester File attachments turned into comments.
20:14 alester Who is maintaining Trac?  Is there a way we can make Trac read-only?
20:19 whiteknight alester: None of us actively "maintain" it, hence it's current condition
20:19 alester I want some way to have it turned off.
20:19 whiteknight I think cotto may have shell access to that box and could poke around
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21:04 kid51 Request some git advice
21:05 kid51 Per message from github, I was attempting to perform:
21:05 kid51 git pull https://github.com/nbrown/parrot portable_manifest
21:05 kid51 The response:
21:05 kid51 error: The requested URL returned error: 403
21:05 kid51 fatal: Couldn't find remote ref portable_manifest
21:05 kid51 What did I do wrong?
21:06 kid51 (And, while I'm at it, does anyone object to merging that patch from nbrown?)
21:06 benabik Huh.  I was able to do that just fine.
21:07 kid51 Are there any commands I would have had to do prior to that to make it work?
21:07 kid51 Let me try it again.
21:07 benabik Shouldn't be.  You might need to double check that you spelled everything correctly.
21:08 kid51 I copied the command direct from the email
21:09 kid51 Same error
21:09 benabik Can you get to https://github.com/ ?  Might be a proxy issue?
21:09 benabik You could try git:// instead of https://
21:10 kid51 That worked.
21:10 kid51 ... which implies that the wording of that email is misleading.
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21:11 benabik 403 is "forbidden"
21:11 benabik Perhaps something is intercepting the https request?
21:11 * benabik shrugs.
21:12 kid51 Would I have had to establish that as a 'remote' first?
21:13 kid51 Heretofore, I've only done 'git pull' from the main repository of any project I've worked on.
21:13 kid51 IIRC, once I did a git pull on the github GUI itself.
21:13 kid51 But this was first time I tried to do git pull to my own machine.
21:14 benabik Using the URL directly means you shouldn't need to set it as a remote.
21:14 benabik The fact that git:// worked and https:// didn't means that there's something wrong with http, not the URL.
21:14 kid51 Of course, wouldn't the fact that it's https rather than http mean I'd need some sort of permission/password?
21:16 TiMBuS nope, only if you are using push
21:16 TiMBuS which is unrelated the the https
21:17 NotFound I think that you need the username in the https url, for read+write access.
21:18 kid51 Ah, too complicated.
21:18 kid51 I'll push this commit after I'm done smoking.
21:19 benabik But for pulling, you should need no username.
21:19 NotFound Go to the github project page, logged in with your user, and click on "HTTP" in the clone addresses bar.
21:21 NotFound benabik: read-only access isn't http?
21:21 NotFound Or it always work with https?
21:21 kid51 Of course, the specific error was:  Couldn't find remote ref portable_manifest
21:22 benabik NotFound: http/https are the same except for encryption.
21:22 benabik The _specific_ error was "error: The requested URL returned error: 403"
21:23 kid51 Hmm, I wonder what would have happened if the command were:  git pull https://github.com/nbrown/parrot.git portable_manifest
21:23 kid51 i.e., adding '.git' to the URL
21:24 kid51 Well, I just tried that on my Mac and got:
21:24 kid51 fatal: https://github.com/nbrown/parrot.git/info/refs download error - Protocol https not supported or disabled in libcurl
21:26 benabik bleh
21:26 kid51 benabik: You in Rochester now?
21:26 NotFound kid51: copy & paste the url from the web, to avoid that problems ;)
21:26 NotFound (not that last one)
21:28 Coke alester: ping me if you need me to do anything on trac, but I guess others here (cotto?) hvae the same privs I do.
21:28 alester OK, thanks.
21:28 alester I'm more concerned about knowing how than privs.
21:30 Coke aloha: tell particle our parrot.org cert expired.
21:30 Coke aloha: msg particle our parrot.org cert expired.
21:30 aloha Coke: OK. I'll deliver the message.
21:30 Coke alester: I would have ot look up my password, but I think it's a matter of removing any TRAC* privs from any groups or users that still have it.
21:31 Coke (except whatever the "readonly" priv is.)
21:31 Coke what's your ETA on this?
21:31 Coke (heading out from work shortly, but will have plenty of time once I get home for such things.
21:32 benabik kid51: For a little bit more, yes.
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21:39 kid51 Hmm, I'm having problems with that patch
21:40 kid51 I think that patch is wrong.
21:41 kid51 Parrot::BuildUtil::slurp_file('.gitignore') returns a string, not a list.  So the grep doesn't DWIM
21:41 kid51 Lemme work on it.
21:41 kid51 It was hosing MANIFEST.SKIP
21:43 benabik slurp, split, grep?
21:43 kid51 I think the grep is just getting in the way.
21:43 kid51 Testing now.
21:46 benabik The grep was intended to remove comment lines, IIRC
21:51 kid51 Yes, looking into that.
22:01 dalek parrot: 48bf23d | nbrown++ | lib/Parrot/Manifest.pm:
22:01 dalek parrot: make .gitignore parsing portable
22:01 dalek parrot: review: https://github.com/parrot/parrot/commit/48bf23df13
22:01 dalek parrot: 4097f98 | nbrown++ | lib/Parrot/Manifest.pm:
22:01 dalek parrot: use Parrot::BuildUtil::slurp_file instead since File::Slurp is not in core (coke++)
22:01 dalek parrot: review: https://github.com/parrot/parrot/commit/4097f986b2
22:01 dalek parrot: 2006557 | jkeenan++ | / (2 files):
22:01 dalek parrot: Correction to patch supplied by nbrown for
22:01 dalek parrot: https://github.com/parrot/parrot/pull/237.
22:01 dalek parrot:
22:01 dalek parrot: slurp_file returns a string, which meant for location of 'grep' excluding
22:01 dalek parrot: comments had to be changed.
22:01 dalek parrot: review: https://github.com/parrot/parrot/commit/2006557aa4
22:02 kid51 If there's anyone on Windows who could configure, build, and then run make manifest_tests, that would be proof that #237 is now solved.
22:05 aloha (parrot/parrot) Issues closed : 237 (make .gitignore parsing portable) by nbrown : https://github.com/parrot/parrot/issues/237
22:08 dalek Guitor: be4bb25 | NotFound++ | src/Guitor (2 files):
22:08 dalek Guitor: XSetWMName, and use it it TopLevelWindow instead of XStoreName
22:08 dalek Guitor: review: https://github.com/NotFoun​d/Guitor/commit/be4bb2582d
22:09 dalek Guitor: 0118e67 | NotFound++ | examples/pokedit.winxed:
22:09 dalek Guitor: add current file name to window title
22:09 dalek Guitor: review: https://github.com/NotFoun​d/Guitor/commit/0118e67e5e
22:11 kid51 Hmm, I didn't intend to close that issue.  But if no one discovers any problems with it, it can stay closed.
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22:49 alvis msg whiteknight in rosella 'winxed setup.winxed test' stalls on 't/random/RandomNumber/BoxMullerNormal.t ............. 2/4'
22:49 aloha OK. I'll deliver the message.
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23:26 cotto ~~
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23:48 kthakore NotFound: I am still here
23:48 kthakore just busy with masters + work + SDLPerl5
23:56 cotto allison: ping
23:56 allison cotto: hi
23:57 cotto allison: where did PaFo's bylaws come from?
23:57 allison cotto: we wrote them, and had them reviewed by a Washington State non-profit lawyer
23:58 allison cotto: some things are flexible in bylaws, some things are mandated by state or country law

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