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whiteknight |
NotFound: That last example in my gist still doesn't work |
| 00:27 |
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whiteknight |
https://gist.github.com/2159106#file_generated.pir |
| 00:27 |
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whiteknight |
the .const 'Sub' line happens after the optional args are set up. I'll take a look at it |
| 00:41 |
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whiteknight |
msg NotFound: https://github.com/Whiteknight[…]057bab2f29f150be4 |
| 00:41 |
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aloha |
OK. I'll deliver the message. |
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bacek_at_work |
aloha, humans |
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whiteknight |
hello bacek |
| 01:09 |
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whiteknight |
bacek: Excellent branchwork |
| 01:10 |
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bacek_at_work |
whiteknight, thanks. Now stop slacking and jump on this branch to finish it :) |
| 01:19 |
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whiteknight |
bacek_at_work: does this branch build? |
| 01:20 |
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bacek_at_work |
whiteknight, |
| 01:20 |
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bacek_at_work |
whiteknight, yes. But new Signature isn't hooked up at all. |
| 01:20 |
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whiteknight |
src/call/signature.c:66:3: error: redefinition of typedef 'Parrot_Signature' is invalid in C [-Wtypedef-redefinition] |
| 01:21 |
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whiteknight |
wtf, that error doesn't make any sense |
| 01:23 |
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whiteknight |
nevermind, I'll make it work |
| 01:24 |
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bacek_at_work |
whiteknight, good, good. Come to the dark side, young padavan. |
| 01:25 |
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whiteknight |
compilers/pge/PGE/builtins.pg appears to hang |
| 01:26 |
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bacek_at_work |
whiteknight, just use make corevm. I had few changes which blocks full build. |
| 01:26 |
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whiteknight |
okay |
| 01:26 |
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whiteknight |
I need to review your changes more closely before I can do any work |
| 01:27 |
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kid51 |
msg alester [ot] Your debugging expertise is cited in https://rt.perl.org/rt3/Ticket[…]lay.html?id=71678 |
| 01:27 |
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aloha |
OK. I'll deliver the message. |
| 01:40 |
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bacek_at_work |
aloha, seen dalek |
| 01:40 |
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aloha |
bacek_at_work: dalek was last seen in #parrot 13 hours 41 mins ago saying "parrot/pcc_reorder: review: https://github.com/parrot/parr[…]commit/d3630a9ae9". |
| 01:40 |
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bacek_at_work |
meh.... |
| 01:41 |
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bacek_at_work |
whiteknight, https://github.com/parrot/parr[…]d42eef5518fbbfdb2 |
| 01:41 |
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bacek_at_work |
this should give overall idea how to proceed :) |
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jashwanth |
hello whiteknight |
| 01:50 |
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whiteknight |
hello jashwanth |
| 01:50 |
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whiteknight |
jashwanth: where do you live? |
| 01:58 |
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alester |
kid51: Not exactly. He's just referring to a book on the debugger that I have a co-author credit on. |
| 02:04 |
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kid51 |
alester: Well, if you have any thoughts on those issues, feel free to post. |
| 02:05 |
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* kid51 |
has never used 'a' command in debugger. |
| 02:05 |
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alester |
Oh hell no. I don't know the Perl debugger at all. :-) |
| 02:05 |
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kid51 |
How did you co-author the book, then? |
| 02:05 |
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alester |
My name is a co-author because I helped Richard drive it to completion and did a lot of edits. |
| 02:05 |
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kid51 |
Ah, you cracked the whip! |
| 02:06 |
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alester |
Kinda. They were about to kill the book, and I said I'd help 'im finish it. |
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awwaiid |
fancy |
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whiteknight |
good morning, #parrot |
| 12:20 |
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tadzik |
hello whiteknight |
| 12:22 |
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whiteknight |
good morning, tadzik |
| 12:35 |
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Infinoid |
sorear: pong |
| 12:40 |
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whiteknight |
Infinoid! |
| 12:40 |
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Infinoid |
hi whiteknight :) |
| 12:41 |
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whiteknight |
Infinoid: How are things? |
| 12:44 |
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Infinoid |
Still busy, but good |
| 12:45 |
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Infinoid |
I made the mistake of getting hired by a company that makes me actually use my brain... so I'm not left with a lot of bandwidth for other things |
| 12:45 |
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Infinoid |
Sorry for disappearing off the end of the earth |
| 12:45 |
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moritz |
if it makes you happy, it was the right choice :-) |
| 12:50 |
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whiteknight |
Infinoid: what company are you at now? |
| 12:51 |
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whiteknight |
or is it the same place? |
| 12:51 |
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Infinoid |
Same place. http://www.etinternational.com/ |
| 12:52 |
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whiteknight |
cool |
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masak |
Infinoid! \o/ |
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JimmyZ |
hello #parrot |
| 13:50 |
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JimmyZ |
looks like m0 is deviated from http://trac.parrot.org/parrot/wiki/LoritoRoadmap |
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whiteknight |
hello JimmyZ |
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NotFound |
whiteknight: ping |
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whiteknight |
NotFound: pong |
| 14:32 |
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NotFound |
whiteknight: What does that patch? Emiting const subs before patameter defaults? |
| 14:33 |
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whiteknight |
function foo(var x = NameSpace.func()) { } |
| 14:33 |
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whiteknight |
that doesn't work before the patch |
| 14:33 |
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NotFound |
Ah, yes, forgot to add that part in my test program. |
| 14:33 |
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whiteknight |
doesn't look like anything else breaks |
| 14:34 |
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NotFound |
whiteknight: Good, going to merge it. |
| 14:34 |
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whiteknight |
thanks |
| 14:34 |
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whiteknight |
NotFound++ |
| 14:34 |
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NotFound |
whiteknight: about Guitor and gsoc: low level xlib is hard, I doubt any student will pick it. |
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whiteknight |
NotFound: if they pick it or not, we can still write the idea |
| 14:35 |
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whiteknight |
NotFound: you picked xlib. Somebody else might be like you :) |
| 14:35 |
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benabik |
Good morning, #parrot |
| 14:36 |
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whiteknight |
hello benabik |
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NotFound |
whiteknight: yes, but these days people tend to use Cairo or the like instead of dealing directly with X. |
| 14:37 |
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whiteknight |
I would love to have Cairo bindings too |
| 14:37 |
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NotFound |
That's a good idea. |
| 14:39 |
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NotFound |
I'd like a java copiler targeting parrot, or even a tiny java subset. |
| 14:39 |
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whiteknight |
yes, that was proposed last year |
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| 14:40 |
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NotFound |
Yeah, but last year I hadn't any interesting java code. Now I have my new Basic interpreter. |
| 14:40 |
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benabik |
I would personally like to see more infrastructural work. Parrot needs low-level work to move forward. |
| 14:40 |
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benabik |
But I'm a systems kinda guy. :-D |
| 14:40 |
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whiteknight |
benabik: you could change to a different project :) |
| 14:40 |
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moritz |
if we get Cairo bindings, who will maintain them? |
| 14:40 |
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benabik |
whiteknight: Well, I consider PCT/PIR to be low-level. :-D |
| 14:41 |
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NotFound |
moritz: they don't need to be in core, an external project is fine. |
| 14:41 |
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whiteknight |
JIT and Threads are the next two things that we really need to be added in core, and nine has Threads mostly done |
| 14:41 |
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whiteknight |
All other changes in core are rewrites, cleanups, refactors, optimizations, etc |
| 14:42 |
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whiteknight |
It's hard to say "I'm going to add X to parrot core", because there aren't a lot of well-defined X values that we need from the ground-up |
| 14:42 |
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benabik |
whiteknight: 6model, although that should really go along with a PMC refactor (with fire, perhaps) |
| 14:42 |
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whiteknight |
yeah, and that's something that we "have", if you don't mind dynloading it |
| 14:43 |
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NotFound |
Threading will allow interesting applications. |
| 14:43 |
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whiteknight |
yeah, I guess we can say "new object model", with the stipulation that 6model be a core part of it |
| 14:44 |
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whiteknight |
NotFound: yes, I'm very excited. |
| 14:45 |
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NotFound |
Now that I think about it, there is a thing that can be interesting for gsoc: improving NCI callback capabilities. |
| 14:46 |
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moritz |
or make NCI not dependent on a library that's hard to build on windows |
| 14:46 |
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NotFound |
I need a way to set callbacks for Guitor to handle X errors. |
| 14:46 |
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whiteknight |
yes, a new callback system that used the power of the new threads would be awesome |
| 14:47 |
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whiteknight |
if our scheduler is good, it can pause the current thread, execute the callback, then resume the thread |
| 14:47 |
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NotFound |
Yes, but the hard part is doing callbacks without PMC-able parameters. |
| 15:07 |
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whiteknight |
you'd have to wrap them in something |
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rich |
hey i'm playing around with PCT and I dont understand what || should mean in this context: [ $ || <.panic: "Syntax error"> ] |
| 15:26 |
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rich |
is it double | ? |
| 15:27 |
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benabik |
It's alternation. |
| 15:27 |
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benabik |
In p6 rules, | matches whichever is longest and || tries each one in turn. |
| 15:28 |
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rich |
ok thx |
| 15:28 |
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benabik |
I'm not sure nqp-rx actually implements that, but that's the syntax. |
| 15:28 |
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moritz |
correct |
| 15:29 |
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rich |
what about the python aka pynie for parrot? it seems it is orphaned? |
| 15:29 |
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moritz |
it is |
| 15:57 |
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whiteknight |
rich: there were a few interested developers, but it never reached a self-sustaining critical mass |
| 16:02 |
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NotFound |
The funny thing is that critical mass seems to be around 1. |
| 16:03 |
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rich |
:D |
| 16:04 |
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rich |
so how complete is it? |
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NotFound |
Blaming mode on. I mean, usually some people say "I'm very interested in X", but don't have enough interest on X to keep looking on it even for a few monts. |
| 16:08 |
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benabik |
Critical mass is about 1, but very few people provide an entire person. |
| 16:10 |
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moritz |
looking isn't the problem. Working on it is :-) |
| 16:15 |
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NotFound |
Yeah, but if they don't even look... |
| 16:15 |
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whiteknight |
rich: I have no idea, to be honest |
| 16:16 |
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whiteknight |
rich: a big part of the shortcoming of pynie was the object model of it, which doesn't quite match python semantics and was holding back implementation of any kind of standard library |
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dukeleto |
~~ |
| 16:18 |
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rich |
hm, i'm not that experienced building compiler... can you explain that in a little more detail? |
| 16:18 |
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dukeleto |
rich: there is an example language called squaak |
| 16:18 |
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rich |
well i did that tutorial |
| 16:19 |
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rich |
and also we have some lectures in univercity |
| 16:19 |
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dukeleto |
rich: ok. |
| 16:19 |
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benabik |
rich: Parrot's idea of an object is slightly different than Python's idea of an object. The incompatibilities made it difficult to work on building the normal Python libraries. |
| 16:19 |
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dukeleto |
rich: what part do you have questions about? which language are you using? |
| 16:20 |
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dukeleto |
rich: right now, people can use Winxed, PIR and various flavors of NQP to write a high level language (HLL) |
| 16:20 |
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dukeleto |
rich: or you can roll everything yourself :) But that isn't for the faint of heart. |
| 16:21 |
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rich |
dukeleto: hm well i was thinking to create a subset of python or something similar (cause i like the lang) to get myself confortable with parrot. cause pynie looks quite orphaned i was wondering why |
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rich |
benabik: do you think to get the stdlib working with parrot? |
| 16:22 |
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rich |
or is it just not worth the effort? |
| 16:23 |
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whiteknight |
rich: do you happen to be a college student? |
| 16:23 |
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sorear |
hey Infinoid |
| 16:23 |
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benabik |
rich: I think it should be possible to get Python objects working on Parrot. Not simple though. One of the reasons I keep bringing up putting 6model in core is because it would simplify things immensely. |
| 16:23 |
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rich |
whiteknight: y |
| 16:24 |
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whiteknight |
rich: might you be interested in working on a python compiler for Parrot for GSOC this summer? |
| 16:24 |
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NotFound |
whiteknight: You haven't made a pull request for that patch? |
| 16:24 |
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whiteknight |
NotFound: not yet |
| 16:24 |
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whiteknight |
NotFound: I will now |
| 16:24 |
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NotFound |
Ah, I misunderstood it was one. |
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dukeleto |
rich: have you seen puffin? That is a newer relative of pynie |
| 16:25 |
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dukeleto |
rich: but still, both are blocked by a better meta object protocol being in parrot core |
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rich |
whiteknight: hm sounds good |
| 16:26 |
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dukeleto |
rich: so the plan is to borrow 6model from the perl 6 core, but 6model is still a moving target... |
| 16:26 |
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rich |
dukeleto: not yet ill check it out |
| 16:26 |
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whiteknight |
NotFound: Can't make the pull request, I have another garbage commit in there that I need to remove first |
| 16:26 |
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whiteknight |
dukeleto: It's not moving so far so fast |
| 16:26 |
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NotFound |
A doubt: Why they need it to be in core? Can't they load 6model? |
| 16:26 |
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whiteknight |
NotFound: Yes, we can do that |
| 16:26 |
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benabik |
NotFound: Incompatibilities between 6model world and PMC land. |
| 16:27 |
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whiteknight |
NotFound: A python compiler probably should do that, at this point |
| 16:27 |
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NotFound |
whiteknight: NP, I'll get the patch. |
| 16:27 |
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whiteknight |
NotFound++ |
| 16:28 |
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NotFound |
benabik: Such incompatibilities doesn't seem to block rakudo. |
| 16:28 |
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benabik |
NotFound: Because rakudo only works with rakudo-land. I'd like to at least try to have a world where our languages can work together. |
| 16:29 |
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benabik |
NotFound: Things can go slightly sideways in Rakudo if a raw PMC gets handed back to the "user". |
| 16:30 |
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* NotFound |
is tempted to steal 6model code and call it funmodel |
| 16:30 |
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whiteknight |
benabik: That's Rakudo. They use all sorts of object context and metaobjects to control things. A Python compiler wouldn't make any of those assumptions |
| 16:30 |
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dukeleto |
Github v1 and v2 API are going away soon: https://github.com/blog/1090-github-api-moving-on |
| 16:30 |
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dukeleto |
will that affect any of our bots? |
| 16:31 |
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NotFound |
Or even better, call it topmodel |
| 16:31 |
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dukeleto |
NotFound: funmodel++ |
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benabik |
Really, in the end, I think that 6model is a more flexible, more useful object model. So rather than hang onto PMCs, it would be better for Parrot in the long run to adopt it. |
| 16:33 |
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benabik |
Also, I'm relatively certain that we could adapt the existing PMC model to work within it for compatability. |
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* benabik |
sighs. |
| 16:34 |
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benabik |
Now I'm tempted to do that for GSoC. But I wanted to work on my shiny. |
| 16:34 |
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whiteknight |
benabik: There's nobody saying you can't do both... |
| 16:34 |
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benabik |
whiteknight: I think thesis, baby, PACT, and 6model would be a bit too much. |
| 16:37 |
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whiteknight |
benabik: if you had asked me a few months ago, I would have told you to hold off on the baby :) |
| 16:38 |
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benabik |
whiteknight: :-P |
| 16:39 |
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NotFound |
Hell... there wasn't a way to get a commit's diff from gihib? |
| 16:39 |
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whiteknight |
I could have taken a dose of that medicine myself. I don't think anybody is ever quite prepared for it |
| 16:40 |
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whiteknight |
NotFound: I think it's x..y in the url |
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dukeleto |
benabik: we need a transition plan where PMCs boil down to "funmodel" or whatever parrot core will call it |
| 16:41 |
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dukeleto |
NotFound: of course there is |
| 16:42 |
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benabik |
dukeleto: Import 6model. Create a PMC_HOW and PMC_REPR that forwards the 6model bits to the appropriate PMC bits. Migrate our defaults from PMC to 6model. |
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* benabik |
sees little point in changing the name. |
| 16:43 |
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whiteknight |
benabik: yeah, that's my general plan for it |
| 16:43 |
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whiteknight |
I want the import 6model into core, in parallel with our existing model, then start slowly eating away at the old version |
| 16:44 |
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benabik |
It doesn't seem terribly difficult to me, but there is a fair amount of "SMOP" in there. |
| 16:44 |
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whiteknight |
every now and then I'll enter into a fit of uncontrollable rage and delete a whole file of old code |
| 16:45 |
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dukeleto |
benabik: sounds like a good gsoc proposal .... |
| 16:45 |
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dukeleto |
NotFound: https://github.com/parrot/parrot/branches |
| 16:46 |
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dukeleto |
NotFound: there is a "compare" button on the righthand side of all the branch names |
| 16:46 |
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dukeleto |
Does anybody have a problem with me merging this branch? https://github.com/parrot/parr[…]..gh363%2Fdlclose |
| 16:47 |
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dukeleto |
It works fine on Linux, and it isn't getting tested enough on the lonely branch. It should remove the need for a custom patch for the netbsd people |
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whiteknight |
dukeleto: let me look |
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whiteknight |
dukeleto: looks swell to me |
| 16:47 |
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dukeleto |
whiteknight: hokey dokey |
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NotFound |
Note that in some platforms (hp-ux for example) dlclosing is not refocounted. Don't know if we support such. |
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NotFound |
For example, you can nicely kill the program by dlclosing C std. |
| 16:51 |
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dukeleto |
NotFound: not sure we support HPUX |
| 16:51 |
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dukeleto |
NotFound: and if an HPUX user sends a patch, I will gladly code review it :) |
| 16:51 |
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NotFound |
dukeleto: I think it was ten years ago the last time I used hpux. |
| 16:53 |
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NotFound |
Got it! It was just adding ".patch" to the commit url. |
| 16:53 |
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dukeleto |
NotFound: ah, yes. You can add .diff too |
| 16:55 |
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benabik |
.patch includes the commit message, I think. |
| 17:02 |
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dukeleto |
NotFound: yes, .patch is the actual git patch with author info, .diff is just a diff that can be given to straight up "patch" |
| 17:17 |
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NotFound |
whiteknight: applied, tested, and snapshot updated |
| 17:17 |
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whiteknight |
NotFound++ |
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whiteknight |
I sent a message about GSOC to some of my old professors, to pass along to interested students |
| 17:50 |
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whiteknight |
They clearly didn't read the FAQ, and seemed to fundamentally misunderstand what the program is about |
| 17:51 |
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whiteknight |
so now I'm getting emailed things that are essentially grant applications from students for their academic work |
| 17:52 |
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whiteknight |
...which is kind of interesting to see what kinds of projects students are working on over there, but not exactly what GSOC is all about |
| 17:59 |
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whiteknight |
I may have to just go over there one day and give an in-person presentation about it, to prevent misunderstandings |
| 17:59 |
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PerlJam |
whiteknight: that's okay, I send info about gsoc to the local csclub every year and so far I've gotten approximately 1 response of "what's this?" and that's about it. |
| 18:00 |
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whiteknight |
I don't understand how more people don't get more excited about this kind of opportunity |
| 18:00 |
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whiteknight |
it's like a paid internship, where you work from your house on a real-world software development team |
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PerlJam |
too many unknowns |
| 18:02 |
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whiteknight |
if I were still in college, I would be jumping up and down like a coked-up chihuahua |
| 18:03 |
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tadzik |
most of the people I've told do act like this :) |
| 18:03 |
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tadzik |
mostly due to OMG GOOGLE MONEY FOR SITTING AT HOME |
| 18:03 |
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PerlJam |
If there's not already involves with an open source project, they have to jump the hurdle of participation in something they currently know nothing about. |
| 18:03 |
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PerlJam |
s/there's/they're/ |
| 18:03 |
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PerlJam |
*involved |
| 18:04 |
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NotFound |
Thinking about some people I frequented years ago, probably many think they are going to steal his incredible powerful, original and high valuable ideas. |
| 18:05 |
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NotFound |
I sometimes sees some like that on irc. They ask naive doubts about trivial programming tasks, and refuse to show the code because we can steal it! |
| 18:05 |
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whiteknight |
I've gotten lots of emails from students so far. I haven't received too many follow-ups yet though |
| 18:07 |
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PerlJam |
NotFound: insane people aren't useful anyway :) |
| 18:08 |
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NotFound |
PerlJam: they are useful! They make me smile in boring days :) |
| 18:17 |
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nine |
CORE.setting++ # gives me much time to catch up with the day's chatter |
| 18:18 |
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tadzik |
:) |
| 18:26 |
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nine |
whiteknight: removing orig_interp from the PMC header gets me back to 2.47% slowdown compared to master with signficance 7.9σ |
| 18:26 |
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whiteknight |
nine: Yeah, we know we have to find a better way to do that |
| 18:27 |
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nine |
whiteknight: I recycled an interp flag to tell the GC to flag newly created PMCs while doing a proxied call. |
| 18:28 |
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nine |
whiteknight: so apart from being very convenient for my assertions, I don't need the orig_interp anymore |
| 18:28 |
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whiteknight |
nine: okay, that's cool |
| 18:28 |
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whiteknight |
okay, add it under an #ifdef THREAD_DEBUG block |
| 18:29 |
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whiteknight |
or #ifndef NDEBUG |
| 18:29 |
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nine |
whiteknight: still not exactly sure where the slowdown is coming from. Will do a new benchmark run on master to see if it's just some fluke in my benchmarking setup |
| 18:29 |
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whiteknight |
so that you can have it when you want it, and not in an optimized deployment |
| 18:31 |
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jashwanth |
dukeleto:hello |
| 18:37 |
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whiteknight |
dukeleto: ping |
| 18:37 |
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whiteknight |
msg dukeleto jashwanth is the prospective GSOC student I was telling you about who wants to work on PLA. You two should be introduced |
| 18:37 |
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aloha |
OK. I'll deliver the message. |
| 18:38 |
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whiteknight |
msg jashwanth aloha is a bot who delivers messages |
| 18:38 |
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aloha |
OK. I'll deliver the message. |
| 18:46 |
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dukeleto |
whiteknight: pong |
| 18:46 |
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dukeleto |
jashwanth: howdy |
| 18:47 |
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NotFound |
Talking about bots, what happened to dalek? |
| 18:47 |
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whiteknight |
NotFound: off to the great electromagnet in the sky |
| 18:47 |
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whiteknight |
Actually, I have no idea. Where is that damned bot |
| 18:47 |
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benabik |
It went missing yesterday. Haven't seen a reason yet. |
| 18:48 |
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nine |
it quit after a series of commits by bacek++ |
| 18:48 |
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whiteknight |
it has a lot of trouble with large lists of commits |
| 18:48 |
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tadzik |
there's no room for two robots on a channel it'd seem |
| 18:49 |
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whiteknight |
One of the next projects I want to work on is an IRC client library for making bots |
| 18:50 |
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whiteknight |
then we can write all our infrastructure droids in pure parrot |
| 18:51 |
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| 18:51 |
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whiteknight |
I really want a bot that has commands to update and recompile its own sourcecode |
| 18:52 |
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whiteknight |
We're going to need to majorly redo namespaces before that is possible |
| 18:53 |
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whiteknight |
and maybe security sandboxing |
| 18:53 |
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whiteknight |
Oooh! That would make a great GSOC project! |
| 19:31 |
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whiteknight |
What I really need to do is keep track of project ideas so we can reuse the good ones next year |
| 19:32 |
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benabik |
whiteknight: Isn't that what the wiki is for? :-D |
| 19:32 |
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whiteknight |
well, yes |
| 19:32 |
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whiteknight |
but...shaddap |
| 19:33 |
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whiteknight |
I also need to keep better track of which projects get done each year. We don't have anything like a hall of fame with information about completed projects |
| 19:35 |
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dukeleto |
whiteknight: sounds like a nice page for parrot.github.com |
| 19:56 |
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nine |
whiteknight: seems like the benchmark somehow sucks. I get too high variation for conclusive results. |
| 20:01 |
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whiteknight |
nine: Okay, so assume a bias in your favor and call it a victory |
| 20:02 |
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moritz |
the mandelbrot benchmark? |
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| 20:23 |
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Coke |
I forwarded whiteknight's blogpost to RPI's open source maven. |
| 20:23 |
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Coke |
(re GSOC 2012) |
| 20:28 |
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whiteknight |
which blogpost? |
| 20:31 |
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whiteknight |
actually, I'll find out later. I have to go home now. |
| 20:35 |
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Coke |
"we're in" |
| 22:55 |
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bacek_at_work |
~~ |
| 22:55 |
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bacek_at_work |
aloha, humans |
| 22:55 |
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bacek_at_work |
seen dalek |
| 22:55 |
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aloha |
dalek was last seen in #parrot 1 days 10 hours ago saying "parrot/pcc_reorder: review: https://github.com/parrot/parr[…]commit/d3630a9ae9". |
| 22:55 |
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bacek_at_work |
Did I kill dalek? |
| 23:00 |
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dukeleto |
bacek_at_work: yes |
| 23:00 |
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bacek_at_work |
dukeleto, sigh... |
| 23:01 |
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bacek_at_work |
How hard is to implement github commits announce in aloha? Mmmm... Tempting |
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whiteknight |
good evening, #parrot |
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dukeleto |
whiteknight: wazzup |
| 23:50 |
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dukeleto |
whiteknight: what is your take on the gsoc student email on parrot-dev? It needs a lot more beef. |
| 23:51 |
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dukeleto |
whiteknight: do you have a specific PLA task that needs doing? |
| 23:51 |
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dukeleto |
whiteknight: also, can you maybe give parrot-dev a "state of the PLA" ? It hasn't seen much love lately and I am unsure what still needs doing. |
