Camelia, the Perl 6 bug

IRC log for #parrot, 2012-10-18

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06:50 kevouze Hi,
06:50 kevouze If some of you still want help out for the survey about newcomer experience in Perl, the survey is open until October 22.
06:50 kevouze Thank you to all who took part in the survey.
06:50 kevouze tinyurl.com/perlnewcomersurvey
06:56 dafrito Hey all, random question: If I wanted to look at an existing HLL as an example to base my own off of, I should look at Rakudo and/or winxed, right?
07:04 moritz yes, or nqp
07:08 dafrito moritz, is there one that I should prefer over the others?
07:12 moritz dafrito: well, depends (more)
07:12 moritz dafrito: winxed is pretty close to parrot
07:13 moritz dafrito: nqp has its own object storage (6model), its own meta model etc.
07:13 moritz and bounded serialization
07:13 moritz if you want to use nqp's goodies, look at nqp; otherwise probably winxed is better
07:15 dafrito moritz, sounds like I'll stick to winxed then. One of my goals is to help out Parrot if I can while I work with my HLL, so I'd prefer something close to go off of
07:18 dafrito moritz, thanks for the advice :)
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11:26 dalek rakudo/nom: 179b6c0 | moritz++ | src/Perl6/ (2 files):
11:26 dalek rakudo/nom: fix indirect name in method declaration. Closes RT #115334
11:26 dalek rakudo/nom: review: https://github.com/rakudo/rakudo/commit/179b6c0683
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13:25 dalek rakudo/nom: 27a6b84 | moritz++ | / (2 files):
13:25 dalek rakudo/nom: refactor CUSTOM_LIB, deprecated ~/.perl6/lib
13:25 dalek rakudo/nom:
13:25 dalek rakudo/nom: now %CUSTOM_LIB is a hash with (perl, site, vendor, home)
13:25 dalek rakudo/nom: installation dirs, and the one in the home directory depends
13:25 dalek rakudo/nom: on the exact Rakudo version.
13:25 dalek rakudo/nom:
13:25 dalek rakudo/nom: For backward compatibility, ~/.perl6/lib is still in @*INC
13:25 dalek rakudo/nom: review: https://github.com/rakudo/rakudo/commit/27a6b841e3
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17:00 dalek nqp: 0e83ea3 | (Paweł Murias)++ | t/nqp/65-how.t:
17:00 dalek nqp: Add a test for NQPClassHOW.
17:00 dalek nqp: review: https://github.com/perl6/nqp/commit/0e83ea3c08
17:00 dalek nqp: 51989fe | jonathan++ | t/nqp/65-how.t:
17:00 dalek nqp: Merge pull request #60 from pmurias/master
17:00 dalek nqp:
17:00 dalek nqp: Added a test
17:00 dalek nqp: review: https://github.com/perl6/nqp/commit/51989feca9
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17:34 dukeleto ~~
17:39 davidfetter what's up, dukeleto ?
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18:09 dalek nqp: 08a69c5 | (Paweł Murias)++ | t/nqp/10-cmp.t:
18:09 dalek nqp: Test for nqp::eqaddr instead of =:=. Avoid comparing identical string
18:09 dalek nqp: literals.
18:09 dalek nqp: review: https://github.com/perl6/nqp/commit/08a69c5191
18:09 dalek nqp: b0087db | jonathan++ | t/nqp/10-cmp.t:
18:09 dalek nqp: Merge pull request #61 from pmurias/master
18:09 dalek nqp:
18:09 dalek nqp: change =:= to eqaddr
18:09 dalek nqp: review: https://github.com/perl6/nqp/commit/b0087db795
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18:31 EfTwelve Hi, do i need perl to use parrot/C on mingw/windows ?
18:38 dalek rakudo/nom: 011ec66 | jnthn++ | src/core/ (2 files):
18:38 dalek rakudo/nom: Fix eval method to see the correct context.
18:38 dalek rakudo/nom:
18:38 dalek rakudo/nom: Plus a bonus feature that you didn't see me add, but the debugger will
18:38 dalek rakudo/nom: happily use. :-)
18:38 dalek rakudo/nom: review: https://github.com/rakudo/rakudo/commit/011ec66f8b
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18:50 rurban EfTwelve: you need perl to build parrot, and to use parrot-devel. (building new languages)
18:51 rurban But you do not need perl to run parrot
19:02 EfTwelve so the reason even the simplest .c test fails to compile is because its not built?
19:07 Coke EfTwelve: did you run "Configure.pl; make" ?
19:07 Coke or: back up: What are you trying to do, and what have you done so far.
19:11 EfTwelve I took a simple C example from the docs: "Home » Developer Documentation » Parrot embedding system "  and attempted to compile with gcc/mingw
19:12 EfTwelve I get several errors about 'incomplete type'  in platform_interface.h
19:12 EfTwelve it made me think that maybe parrot thinks im on linux
19:13 Coke if you don't have a parrot lying around, I wouldn't expect you to be able to compile anything against it, no.
19:15 Coke I would expect you'd have to build (and preferentially install) parrot, then link against libparrot to run the embedding examples.
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19:21 EfTwelve there's no makefile
19:24 EfTwelve ugh, what a nightmare
19:25 PerlJam EfTwelve: "perl Configure.pl" creates a makefile.
19:28 EfTwelve tyvm for the help. the perl dependency kills it for me though.
19:29 PerlJam why exactly?
19:30 Coke EfTwelve: your package manager may have a parrot version in it. (though it might be old)
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19:36 EfTwelve PerlJam: I just want to create vm for my language, installing 100 megs or perl and mucking around in it is not my cup of tea.  Coke: Im using windows and the win version of Parrot.
20:28 Coke EfTwelve: I'm not sure if the windows MSI for parrot has been updated recently, but there is an installer for rakudo star for windows which includes parrot.
20:28 Coke (somewhat ironically, then you'll have perl 6 instead of perl 5 installed).
20:29 Coke but if you don't want to setup the build tools, then yes, parrot may not be for you.
20:37 EfTwelve thanks
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