Camelia, the Perl 6 bug

IRC log for #parrot, 2012-11-20

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00:00 whiteknight Hopefully that translates to more Parrot time
00:00 whiteknight (Whether that's good for parrot or not is a discussion you can have when I'm not here)
00:05 sorear whiteknight: the impression I have as an outsider is that parrot's largest and most immediate problem is a shortage of developers
00:11 Tene whiteknight: Everything I've seen of your work is great; I'm really glad to see you working on Parrot.
00:11 whiteknight sorear: yes, a variety of events have hurt our pool of developers hard
00:12 sorear whiteknight: it sounds like you're blaming yourself
00:13 whiteknight oh, no. Not at all. It's mostly economic reasons why most developers who used to be active aren't anymore
00:13 whiteknight people getting new jobs, working longer hours, etc
00:13 sorear is there *anyone* who beleives more whiteknight is bad for Parrot?
00:14 whiteknight sorear: Heh, I just don't make any assumptions. I can be a little bit...opinionated
00:15 Tene Your opinions have always been pretty similar to mine, so I certainly approve.
00:19 whiteknight That's how I know they're good: Because I <s>stole</s> borrowed them from Tene
00:19 Tene Maybe that explains why I haven't been motivated enough to act on them for the past few years.
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18:36 moritz does anybody know if the parrot bugs in readline that caused regressions in rakudo have been fixed?
18:40 cotto What's the misbehavior?
18:42 moritz https://github.com/parrot/parrot/issues/834 and https://github.com/parrot/parrot/issues/861
18:43 moritz they cause us to use parrot 4.4.0 for our current rakudo releases
18:43 cotto Then that's a problem.
18:43 moritz seems that 861 is already fixed; at least pmichaud's test case works on my machine
18:44 moritz I'll try with rakudo now
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19:04 dalek parrot: 6da3376 | (Ahmad M. Zawawi)++ | examples/ (2 files):
19:04 dalek parrot: Added {=begin pod ... =end pod} instead of obsolete {=pod =cut}
19:04 dalek parrot: review: https://github.com/parrot/parrot/commit/6da3376a62
19:04 dalek parrot: bb8c98f | (Ahmad M. Zawawi)++ | README.pod:
19:04 dalek parrot: 'make html' needs to have JSON installed
19:04 dalek parrot: review: https://github.com/parrot/parrot/commit/bb8c98f3d3
19:04 dalek parrot: f67488b | (Ahmad M. Zawawi)++ | examples/io/httpd.pir:
19:04 dalek parrot: Parrot mini-web server now reads local files as binary instead of text and closes file handles properly
19:04 dalek parrot: review: https://github.com/parrot/parrot/commit/f67488b1fe
19:04 dalek parrot: 20787b5 | cotto++ | / (4 files):
19:04 dalek parrot: Merge pull request #868 from azawawi/master
19:04 dalek parrot:
19:04 dalek parrot: Make Perl 6 examples work again + README.pod update + Parrot mini-web server fix
19:04 dalek parrot: review: https://github.com/parrot/parrot/commit/20787b52b9
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19:13 Coke question about those perl6 examples - are they intended to be run with something other than parrot-nqp, and does parrot-nqp support the new style pod?
19:24 cotto good question
19:25 cotto I was thinking that they'd be run with perl6, but that's also no longer part of the parrot repo.
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20:07 cotto hio benabik
20:07 benabik o/ cotto
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20:21 travis-ci [travis-ci] parrot/parrot#638 (master - 20787b5 : cotto): The build was broken.
20:21 travis-ci [travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/parrot/parrot/c​ompare/6d516e4e5222...20787b52b9c1
20:21 travis-ci [travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/parrot/parrot/builds/3286351
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20:25 cotto should be an easy enough fix
20:26 dalek parrot/threads: 6208521 | rurban++ | t/src/extend.t:
20:26 dalek parrot/threads: [test] TODO t/src/extend.t 19 only on darwin
20:26 dalek parrot/threads: review: https://github.com/parrot/parrot/commit/6208521d87
20:28 cotto I guess that the right fix would be to exclude those files from pod_description.t since they're not p5 pod.
20:34 Reini Or fix lib/Pod/Simple/PullParser.pm do understand v6
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20:35 Reini do we do a #ps?
20:36 cotto not recently
20:36 Reini In summary: threads can be merged, after nqp and rakudo approval
20:37 tadzik Reini: did someone take care of my testcase?
20:37 Reini nqp has still tadzik's nasty error in nqplex...
20:44 cotto Could someone with an nqp commit bit change "typeid" to "type_id" in src/ops/nqp_dyncall.ops?
20:44 cotto gcc 4.7 doesn't like "typeid"
20:45 Reini I can...
20:45 Coke cotto: ask over in #perl6.
20:46 Reini First I'll fix the p6 pod stuff
20:47 dalek parrot: b26edc7 | rurban++ | t/codingstd/pod_description.t:
20:47 dalek parrot: Pod::Simple cannot handle perl6 pod yet (=begin pod/=end pod)
20:47 dalek parrot:
20:47 dalek parrot: Skip .p6 files for the empty_description test.
20:47 dalek parrot: 2 cases: examples/mops/mops.p6 examples/nci/xlibtest.p6
20:47 dalek parrot: review: https://github.com/parrot/parrot/commit/b26edc7ec1
20:48 dukeleto did I hear that threads can be merged?
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20:48 Reini well, nqp has some problems with it still
20:48 Reini So I'm debugging nqp now...
20:48 cotto ww
20:48 dukeleto Reini++
20:49 * dukeleto is extremely excited to get threads merged
20:50 Reini Well, it's a bit risky
20:50 cotto unfortunately tadzik++ came up with an example that makes nqp explode but works fine on parrot-nqp
20:50 cotto or fortunately
20:50 Reini I'll add this testcase to nqp proper
20:50 cotto better to know about it sooner than later
20:52 dalek nqp: 4f52b8c | rurban++ | src/ops/nqp_dyncall.ops:
20:52 dalek nqp: rename typeid variable to type_id
20:52 dalek nqp:
20:52 dalek nqp: gcc-4.7 and 4.8 reserve typeid
20:52 dalek nqp: review: https://github.com/perl6/nqp/commit/4f52b8c4d5
20:52 cotto Reini, thanks
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20:53 Reini But now the hard part. looks like a GC problem on our side
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21:07 dalek parrot/threads: 6d516e4 | cotto++ | config/auto/warnings.pm:
21:07 dalek parrot/threads: add -fpermissive so that nqp builds under gcc 4.7.2
21:07 dalek parrot/threads: review: https://github.com/parrot/parrot/commit/6d516e4e52
21:07 dalek parrot/threads: 6da3376 | (Ahmad M. Zawawi)++ | examples/ (2 files):
21:07 dalek parrot/threads: Added {=begin pod ... =end pod} instead of obsolete {=pod =cut}
21:07 dalek parrot/threads: review: https://github.com/parrot/parrot/commit/6da3376a62
21:07 dalek parrot/threads: bb8c98f | (Ahmad M. Zawawi)++ | README.pod:
21:07 dalek parrot/threads: 'make html' needs to have JSON installed
21:07 dalek parrot/threads: review: https://github.com/parrot/parrot/commit/bb8c98f3d3
21:07 dalek parrot/threads: f67488b | (Ahmad M. Zawawi)++ | examples/io/httpd.pir:
21:07 dalek parrot/threads: Parrot mini-web server now reads local files as binary instead of text and closes file handles properly
21:07 dalek parrot/threads: review: https://github.com/parrot/parrot/commit/f67488b1fe
21:07 dalek parrot/threads: 20787b5 | cotto++ | / (4 files):
21:07 dalek parrot/threads: Merge pull request #868 from azawawi/master
21:07 dalek parrot/threads:
21:07 dalek parrot/threads: Make Perl 6 examples work again + README.pod update + Parrot mini-web server fix
21:07 dalek parrot/threads: review: https://github.com/parrot/parrot/commit/20787b52b9
21:07 dalek parrot/threads: b26edc7 | rurban++ | t/codingstd/pod_description.t:
21:07 dalek parrot/threads: Pod::Simple cannot handle perl6 pod yet (=begin pod/=end pod)
21:07 dalek parrot/threads:
21:07 dalek parrot/threads: Skip .p6 files for the empty_description test.
21:07 dalek parrot/threads: 2 cases: examples/mops/mops.p6 examples/nci/xlibtest.p6
21:07 dalek parrot/threads: review: https://github.com/parrot/parrot/commit/b26edc7ec1
21:07 dalek parrot/threads: a1b3852 | rurban++ | / (5 files):
21:07 dalek parrot/threads: Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/master' into threads
21:07 dalek parrot/threads: review: https://github.com/parrot/parrot/commit/a1b3852203
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21:10 travis-ci [travis-ci] parrot/parrot#640 (master - b26edc7 : Reini Urban): The build was fixed.
21:10 travis-ci [travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/parrot/parrot/c​ompare/20787b52b9c1...b26edc7ec1ee
21:10 travis-ci [travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/parrot/parrot/builds/3287763
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