Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #parrot, 2014-01-07

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09:30 testsadasd test
09:30 FROGGS ok 1 - test
09:31 testsadasd ping pong
09:31 testsadasd testing xchat client on new openbsd sus
09:32 FROGGS seems to work
09:32 testsadasd nice
09:32 testsadasd do you know for some good cli chat client ?
09:32 FROGGS no
09:32 FROGGS never tried any
09:33 testsadasd hm, tnx
09:33 testsadasd is my english ok ?
09:33 testsadasd i am from Serbia
09:35 FROGGS ohh, your english is very well
09:35 FROGGS though, I'm not a native either
09:36 testsadasd So I can start writing tuts in english :)
09:36 FROGGS :o)
09:36 FROGGS go ahead
09:37 testsadasd You know, i have a doubt somehow
09:37 testsadasd about site design
09:37 testsadasd i hate blog structure
09:37 testsadasd and I like simple site like
09:37 testsadasd Bruce Barnet (sed tutorial)
09:38 testsadasd Is it weird to code html4 simple site in 2014 :)
09:38 testsadasd without colors and css :)
09:39 FROGGS why without css? it is pretty useful to have the styles only in one place...
09:39 FROGGS and without colors, you won't see anything, do you? :o)
09:39 testsadasd i mean, just white bgcolor and black txt
09:39 testsadasd like, just a sec..
09:40 testsadasd http://www.grymoire.com/unix/sed.html
09:40 testsadasd like that site
09:40 testsadasd i can implement css latter, with sed :)
09:42 FROGGS umm, I don't like it, personally
09:42 FROGGS in contrast, I like that: http://6guts.wordpress.com/
09:42 FROGGS :o)
09:43 testsadasd i tried blogs
09:44 testsadasd it is just..not me
09:44 testsadasd have you seen Peter Norvig's simple site ?
09:44 testsadasd It's beatifull
09:45 FROGGS ewww, are you sure about that?
09:45 FROGGS that is like cancer for my eyes
09:45 testsadasd :)
09:45 FROGGS :o)
09:45 testsadasd it's like heaven for my eyes :)
09:45 testsadasd simple and direct
09:46 testsadasd tables :)
09:46 testsadasd it seams I am weirdo :)
09:46 FROGGS *g*
09:46 testsadasd I like Perl and OpenBSD, that tells everything :)
09:47 FROGGS how about that? http://perlcabal.org/syn/S11.html
09:48 testsadasd That's it, nice and beatifull.
09:48 FROGGS and functional
09:48 testsadasd perfect
09:48 FROGGS that is just a rendering of POD
09:50 testsadasd Looks professional
09:50 testsadasd :)
09:51 FROGGS well, this will work well for developers, but not soo well with common users I think
09:52 testsadasd I don't think that common users search on google for Perl :)
09:52 FROGGS the problem is that you don't want to scare newbies
09:53 testsadasd Why, if they are really interested, they will continue reading...
09:53 FROGGS and when such a newbie compares a Python site to a Perl site, and that Perl site looks like it was last touched in the 1980's, then we lost a potential Perl Hacker :o)
09:54 FROGGS if he/she is interested in webstuff or gamedev, he/she *will* be scared by something that looks ugly and out-dated
09:54 testsadasd But, than there bi few really really good Perl Priests with lot's of job offering :)
09:54 FROGGS I am not talking about job offers
09:55 testsadasd I know
09:55 FROGGS just about ppl who are interested in learning their (first?) programming language
09:55 testsadasd hm
09:56 testsadasd i tried puthon
09:56 testsadasd it not fits my brain
09:56 testsadasd i tried php
09:56 testsadasd it not fits my brain
09:56 testsadasd i just feel Perl somehow naturally
09:57 testsadasd like OpenBSD...
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22:19 dalek parrot: 69509d5 | rurban++ | docs/pdds/pdd22_io.pod:
22:19 dalek parrot: [doc] (GH#1005) Fix bad ipv6 examples in pdd22_io, thanks to zefram
22:19 dalek parrot: review: https://github.com/parrot/parrot/commit/69509d5db4
22:24 rurban I also changed my mind on #1017 (get_id of proxies)
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22:51 rurban adding tests for get_id #1017
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22:53 travis-ci [travis-ci] parrot/parrot#931 (master - 69509d5 : Reini Urban): The build passed.
22:53 travis-ci [travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/parrot/parrot/compare/a922950aabab...69509d5db49a
22:53 travis-ci [travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/parrot/parrot/builds/16555441
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23:31 rurban I got two smoke bugs: t/op/string_cclass.t (7,9 cclass whitespace) + t/compilers/pge/perl6regex/01-regex.t 118
23:32 dalek parrot: 0f412b4 | rurban++ | / (6 files):
23:32 dalek parrot: Bump year to 2014
23:32 dalek parrot: review: https://github.com/parrot/parrot/commit/0f412b4a0b
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23:44 dalek parrot/rurban/gh1017-proxy-get_id: e397274 | rurban++ | / (2 files):
23:44 dalek parrot/rurban/gh1017-proxy-get_id: [WIP] add testcase and comment about get_id on proxied objects
23:44 dalek parrot/rurban/gh1017-proxy-get_id:
23:44 dalek parrot/rurban/gh1017-proxy-get_id: But the test hangs
23:44 dalek parrot/rurban/gh1017-proxy-get_id: review: https://github.com/parrot/parrot/commit/e39727481f
23:47 rurban but travis is doing fine, ok
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23:52 travis-ci [travis-ci] parrot/parrot#932 (master - 0f412b4 : Reini Urban): The build passed.
23:52 travis-ci [travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/parrot/parrot/compare/69509d5db49a...0f412b4a0bf7
23:52 travis-ci [travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/parrot/parrot/builds/16559325
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23:56 FROGGS rurban: the whitespace fails are probably about U+180e Mongolian Vowel Separator (MVS)
23:56 FROGGS this is not whitespace anymore, since unicode 6.3 or so
23:57 FROGGS an upgrade of libicu causes fails
23:59 rurban thanks, that's what I suspected

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