Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #parrot, 2014-03-14

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03:11 rurban1 That's now the public buildbot url: http://perl514.cpanel.net/build/one_line_per_build
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17:33 Chirag Hey! rurban1 der?
17:34 rurban hi
17:34 Chirag Hey!
17:35 Chirag Did you see my proposal?
17:35 rurban not yet. do you have a link?
17:35 Chirag https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Ao_63Hns3DAb​61GlFrtUdxaXHNAyUN4oHX_2o2Cq57s/edit?usp=sharing
17:36 Chirag I actually posted this on the group yesterday..
17:36 rurban I was busy yesterday evening
17:36 Chirag no problem :)
17:37 rurban I'm missing permissions to add comments
17:37 Chirag I ll change it
17:37 Chirag 1 min
17:38 Chirag its editable now
17:38 rurban "de-optimizations that were carried out to simplify the signatures" is a bit too unpolitical
17:40 Chirag oh..
17:43 rurban I'll change the wrong parts... :)
17:46 Chirag Yes please :)
17:46 rurban pmc2c is the easiest and best to start with that. it really is trivial, and you get a feeling how the PMCs C-code is created
17:47 Chirag so that can be done at the bbeginning
17:47 rurban I think it will be easier. but it's perl5 code. I can help with that.
17:48 Chirag great!
17:48 Chirag Then maybe the problem with the lexpad can be optional
17:55 rurban yes
17:55 rurban thats a bonus
18:00 rurban We also need the full name and I believe some paper from the university
18:01 rurban Can you see my changes?
18:01 Chirag Yes
18:01 Chirag The full name in the proposal?
18:01 rurban yes
18:02 Chirag I have submitted my scanned transcript and id card on melange
18:03 rurban great
18:03 rurban ok, I'm done
18:03 Chirag that will do right?
18:03 Chirag because I doubt the university will give a bonafide for 21st april
18:04 rurban only that you are student there
18:04 rurban the work should be done in summer, when the exams are done.
18:05 Chirag melange says transcript alone will suffice, I have also submitted my scanned id card (another option)
18:07 rurban good
18:07 rurban ok, i'm done
18:07 Chirag Thanks a ton!
18:07 rurban I removed the pmc2c part
18:08 rurban and improved the wording
18:08 Chirag Yes I was reading along
18:08 Chirag thanks!
18:08 Chirag pmc2c will be the 'easier' optimization right?
18:09 rurban In the meantime I will be working on bringing back the jit and faster runcores
18:09 rurban it will be just 2 lines or so.
18:09 Chirag great!
18:09 rurban remove _orig and add the GC write barrier line to the method call, but more important expand signature translations there
18:10 rurban you'll see
18:10 Chirag ok!
18:11 Chirag I shouls edit my name in the GSoC profile, my tanscript has a middle name for me
18:11 rurban and you need a github account. it's free
18:12 Chirag sure.. I ll work on that
18:12 Chirag should I go ahead and submit?
18:13 rurban I like this cps pre-processing approach: https://docs.google.com/viewer?url=http%​3A%2F%2Farxiv.org%2Fpdf%2F1310.3404.pdf
18:14 rurban I'm tempted to try it for p2
18:15 Chirag p2?
18:15 rurban http://perl11.org/p2/ my faster vm
18:15 rurban this link was for the general public, not for you :)
18:16 Chirag I belong to general public :D
18:17 rurban It's about compile-time lambda lifting, which we don't do in parrot, but I do it in p2
18:19 Chirag Dont know what lambda lifting is..
18:20 rurban but their approach of cps conversion doesn't look correct to me. each lifted lexvar is a copy, not shared. every function must be in a tailcall position. hmm
18:20 Chirag seems to be an interesting read :)
18:21 rurban their qemu pre-compiler is written in perl !
18:23 Chirag so much to learn :)
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18:27 rurban argument handling is very interesting in a VM
18:28 Chirag submitting the proposal now...
18:29 rurban there are the slow cases with defaults, slurpy args (or &rest args) and named args (&key), which cannot be that much optimized at compile-time
18:29 rurban but some defaults can be filled in at compile-time still
18:30 Chirag I could do that in the later part of the project... The sure shot ones first...
18:38 rurban ok, good night
18:39 Chirag ok.. Will submit in a few minutes... thanks for the help :)
18:39 Chirag movie?
18:39 rurban I missed Highway
18:39 Chirag I have heard its really good
18:39 Chirag Rang de basanti on ur list?
18:40 rurban The new Wes Anderson starts today finally
18:40 rurban Nope.
18:40 rurban new is Bewakoofiyaan and Queen
18:41 rurban and then still Shaadi Ke Side Effects and Gulaab Gang.
18:41 Chirag I heard about queen... dont know how its doing
18:41 rurban nothing really interesting
18:42 Chirag 3 more suggestions - Munnabhai MBBS; Lagey Raho Munnabhai; 3 Idiots (based on the book 5-point someone by Chetan Bhagat)
18:42 Chirag :)
18:42 rurban I saw 3 Idiots
18:42 Chirag u liked?
18:43 rurban good. Buit I don't like Aamir Khan too much
18:43 Chirag oh.. I dont have a favorite in Bollywood either
18:43 rurban And Kareena Kapoor is also horrible
18:44 Chirag +1 :D .. she just looks good :P
18:44 rurban Not even that
18:44 Chirag there was this old movie (aamir khan) - Andaz Apna Apna
18:45 Chirag But I think watching it with subtitles will take away a lot from the movie...
18:45 rurban I think I saw Andaz Apna Apna
18:46 Chirag happens to me when I watch a Japanese anime
18:46 rurban Well, most of the jokes are repeated in hinglish anyway
18:46 rurban there are so many languages in India
18:46 Chirag yes!
18:47 Chirag I am dying to watch wolf of the wall street ..
18:47 rurban uuh,
18:48 Chirag over rated?
18:48 rurban hmm, pretty good
18:48 rurban but a bit too much, I think
18:49 Chirag so matthew mcconaughey deserved it?
18:49 rurban yes, this was a lock
18:49 rurban http://www.rinema.com/movi​es/the-wolf-of-wall-street
18:50 rurban I rated it: "Being the overlong twin brother of "Pain and Gain". I have to admit, I liked both. The Wolf is more extreme, while Pain and Gain looked better and was a bit more fun."
18:51 Chirag havent seen pain and gain
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18:56 rurban Pain and Gain was the better variant of "Spring Breakers"
19:14 Chirag Proposal Submitted! Thanks! Bye!
19:58 * Coke finally watched Chennai Express, been in his netflix queue for a while. was not what I was expecting.
20:06 rurban This is the IMHO better variant of Chennai Express: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WCSm9XYVGg (Thiruda Thiruda, Mani Ratnam, 93, Millionenrauib auf Indisch)
20:07 rurban This was the first major success of A.R Rahman also
20:27 Coke it's a remake?
20:28 * Coke skips through about 40 frames. yup, could be. huh.
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20:48 rurban not really. but almost
20:48 rurban Chennai Express was inspired by Thiruda Thiruda
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22:49 rurban done for today
22:49 rurban wrote a blogpost about my new smoker: http://blogs.perl.org/users/rurb​an/2014/03/my-new-buildbot.html
22:50 kid51 Util++ for resolving homepage issue
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