Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #parrotsketch, 2009-01-20

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18:30 chromatic hello
18:30 Whiteknight 'ello poppet
18:30 allison greetings
18:30 cotto hi
18:31 pmichaud hello
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18:31 moritz OH HAI
18:31 barney hi
18:31 kj hello
18:31 jhorwitz hello there
18:31 chromatic Shall we begin?
18:32 pmichaud Yes, let's begin.
18:32 chromatic allison?
18:32 allison - Finished reviewing and applying 'make install' branch. Some changes sent back for further development.
18:32 allison - Fixed a bug in FixedIntegerArray's parsing of string initializers.
18:32 allison - Reviewed, fixed, closed tickets.
18:32 allison - Set up a new Windows laptop so I can now test Strawberry Perl, ActivePerl, and Cygwin.
18:33 allison EOR
18:33 chromatic barney?
18:33 barney [Pipp]
18:33 barney - Worked on namespaces and OO features
18:33 barney - Constants are now package vars
18:33 barney - Load pipp.pbc in dumped PIR
18:33 barney [Eclectus]
18:33 barney - Moved to http://github.com/bschmalhofer/eclectus/
18:33 barney [m4]
18:33 barney - Moved to http://github.com/bschmalhofer/m4/
18:33 barney [Parrot]
18:33 barney - Moved LANGUAGES_STATUS.pod to the wiki.
18:33 barney - Added target 'co-all' to the languages Makefile. Fetches externally managed languages.
18:33 barney - Added tools/dev/mk_gitignore.pl
18:33 barney .eor
18:33 chromatic I fixed a few bugs and removed a couple of deprecated features.
18:34 chromatic I'm happy to attempt to fix any important outstanding bugs before the release.
18:34 chromatic cotto?
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18:34 cotto * working on deprecating the venerable and entrenched PMC UnionVal
18:34 cotto * found some deficiencies with ATTRs, esp wrt C-level PMC inheritance
18:34 cotto * working on addressing those
18:34 cotto eor
18:35 cotto s/addressing/figuring out how to address/
18:35 chromatic Infinoid?
18:35 Infinoid * Readonly packfile PMCs are mostly in place as per PDD13; only thing missing is annotations.
18:35 Infinoid * Fixed a gc init bug affecting ubuntu x86-64.  Fixed the trig methods in the Float PMC.
18:35 Infinoid * Fixed various codingstd issues.
18:35 Infinoid 1;
18:37 chromatic japhb?
18:37 japhb nr
18:38 chromatic jhorwitz?
18:38 jhorwitz mod_parrot:
18:38 jhorwitz * added some new apache data types for the 0.6 milestone
18:38 jhorwitz * lots of recent breakage from rakudo changes, jonathan++ fixed the one from RT #62326
18:38 jhorwitz * TT #185 is still holding up mod_perl6.  i'm trying to work on it myself to get a better understanding of some internals.  not expecting to make today's release, but that's not such a big deal.
18:38 jhorwitz administrative:
18:38 jhorwitz * started getting our financials in order, which i'm hoping to have off my plate soon.
18:38 jhorwitz q1q
18:38 jhorwitz EOR
18:38 chromatic kj?
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18:38 kj == PIRC
18:38 kj * fixed bugs
18:38 kj * wrote a couple of tests; tests are now executed by a PIRC-embedded Parrot as well.
18:38 kj * implemented debug segment emitting in bc generator
18:38 kj * There's a couple of bugs in the generated bytecode, although it /can/ be disassembled correctly.
18:41 chromatic masak?
18:41 masak sorry I'm late. nothing worthwhile to report this week.
18:41 pmichaud (dealing with small emergency here -- skip me and I'll report when I'm able)
18:41 chromatic moritz?
18:42 moritz * usual testing work
18:42 moritz * preparing a few Perl 6 articles for a large German IT magazine
18:42 moritz EOR
18:42 chromatic NotFound?
18:43 NotFound A few weeks of inactivity for several reasons. Now getting myself into trac and looking for books. Re-enabled C++ buildability today
18:43 NotFound EOR
18:43 chromatic particle1?
18:43 NotFound s/books/bugs
18:44 chromatic PerlJam?
18:45 chromatic Tene?
18:46 chromatic Whiteknight?
18:46 Whiteknight GET_CLASS
18:46 Whiteknight - worked to resolve pmichauds complaints about get_class handling
18:46 Whiteknight - had to back out a few changes because they were causing breakages down the pip
18:46 Whiteknight e in rakudo
18:46 Whiteknight - ResizableStringArrays should work now with get_class, but the implementation i
18:46 Whiteknight - Created new Perl 6 book at Wikibooks and started writing some initial chapters
18:46 Whiteknight - Misc edits to various Perl 6 and Parrot Books
18:46 Whiteknight MISC
18:46 Whiteknight - allowed morph and does vtable methods to be overridden from PIR
18:46 Whiteknight EOR
18:47 chromatic Anyone I missed?
18:48 chromatic Okay.  Let's go to question time.
18:49 chromatic Q1.  Are there any outstanding patches, bug fixes, or tests we need to address before the release?
18:49 pmichaud (i'm back, can report when convenient.)
18:50 chromatic Okay, go now.
18:50 pmichaud worked mostly on preparations for moving rakudo out of parrot svn
18:50 pmichaud a few other bug fixes here and there, and pointing others to bug fixes
18:50 pmichaud did some feature improvements to Rakudo
18:50 pmichaud EOR
18:51 chromatic Okay, return to question time.
18:51 pmichaud Rakudo currently has a failing spectest, but I think we're getting a handle on it.
18:51 pmichaud that's not a release blocker, anyway.
18:51 NotFound My priority was to fix C++, and luckily I finished it
18:53 chromatic How about deprecations?
18:53 chromatic Are we good there?
18:53 chromatic Milestones?
18:54 pmichaud I might need to consider if there is anything I want to deprecate in PCT::HLLCompiler.
18:54 pmichaud I can do that quickly, though.
18:54 allison I'll add the socket ops to deprecated list
18:54 chromatic It looks like you've ripped out n_neg too.
18:55 NotFound Checked now that rakudo also builds with c++
18:55 pmichaud I just fixed it so that tools/languages I tend to work with no longer use n_neg.
18:55 pmichaud I don't know if anything else expects n_neg.
18:55 chromatic I only saw it in a couple of other languages, but I can steal the changes.
18:56 chromatic next question
18:56 chromatic jhorwitz?
18:56 pmichaud I still need to make my comment on ops review... don't know if that affects this release.
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18:57 jonathan (hi, sorry, forgot about ps...)
18:57 jhorwitz allison: what's the state of the rest of the money TPF owes us?
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18:57 jhorwitz particle wanted me to interject on his behalf while we had you here.
18:57 NotFound Will the Obama administration support us? ;)
18:57 allison jhorwitz: sent them the summary spreadsheet, they need to go back through their records and confirm
18:58 jhorwitz ok, particle was concerned about having everything by 1.0.  we can talk offline.
18:59 chromatic pmichaud, I'd like to get opcode review in DEPRECATED.pod before the release, but I'm flexible time-wise.
19:00 chromatic I can either do this early afternoon or late tonight.
19:00 pmichaud chromatic: I'll get my opcode review comments in quickly then.
19:03 * pmichaud wonders if the #parrot degenerating discussion has siphoned everything away from #parrotsketch :-)
19:03 chromatic There was only one queued question, so I suspect not.
19:03 chromatic Is there anything else?
19:04 * pmichaud double-checks the roadmap.
19:04 jonathan My report is basically: I've done various Rakudo stuff, plus resolved a Parrot RT ticket today.
19:04 * Infinoid re-tests everything
19:04 jonathan Sorry for forgetting about the meeting!
19:05 pmichaud there's a lot of un-status'ed items on the roadmap.
19:05 Infinoid I'm guessing you guys are looking for volunteers for the TicketSprint (as listed on the roadmap)?
19:06 chromatic Yes please.
19:06 Whiteknight what does that entail?
19:06 Infinoid "legitimately close as many tickets as possible before the given release"
19:06 * Whiteknight is gullible enough to sign up for anything
19:07 NotFound There is a prize?
19:07 chromatic We don't mock you in the release notes.
19:07 chromatic That's a good prize.
19:07 Whiteknight i'm tired of getting mocked :(
19:07 Infinoid I'm at $work, and won't be able to help much until after 4pm
19:07 NotFound An oil-painted copy of chrmomatic's avatar in O'Really, for example?
19:09 jhorwitz fyi -- oscon proposals are due in exactly 2 weeks.
19:09 chromatic Shall we call this a week?
19:10 moritz aye
19:12 davidfetter "ok, you're a week!"
19:12 davidfetter </vaudeville>
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19:12 moritz bye
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19:12 Infinoid thanks everyone
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20:46 spinclad Whiteknight: yr report, line 4|5: 'but the implementation i': cuts off here.  (lines above and below end there too, but seem to wrap or end naturally.)
20:46 spinclad s/yr/your/ur/
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