Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #parrotsketch, 2010-01-19

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15:52 whiteknight WHAT I DID:
15:52 whiteknight * Lots of smoke testing in anticipation of the release
15:52 whiteknight * Identified some failures on OpenSolaris+GCC. Was not able to tackle them before the release.
15:52 whiteknight * Some failures with ICC and "negative zero" tests. Sent email to the list about it. Looking for a solid resolution.
15:52 whiteknight * Am privately putting together documentation for building/testing in various environments. Will make public (probably on my blog first)
15:52 whiteknight WHAT I WILL DO:
15:52 whiteknight * Create a branch to tackle OpenSolaris+GCC problems
15:52 whiteknight * Trying to deploy ICC on OpenSolaris
15:52 whiteknight * Create a branch to tackle negative zero problems with ICC/"Negative Zero"
15:52 whiteknight * Promote 2.0 release on my blog and elsewhere
15:52 whiteknight WHAT I AM BLOCKING ON:
15:52 whiteknight * Life, the Universe, and Everything.
15:54 wagle killall -42 whiteknight
15:56 whiteknight don't want to killall, just want my kid to sleep at night
15:57 wagle unfortunately named command..  just delivered a signal..  i assumed you'd handle it instead of exiting
16:21 japhb whiteknight: we who are parents feel your pain.
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16:49 mikehh What I did since my last report:
16:49 mikehh * building and testing parrot on amd64/i386, with gcc/g++, with and without --optimize
16:49 mikehh * some branch testing
16:49 mikehh * some fixes
16:49 mikehh * some tracwiki entries
16:49 mikehh What I intend to do in the next week:
16:49 mikehh * testing and fixing
16:49 mikehh * investigate gc some more
16:49 mikehh .eor
17:04 * wagle looks for a new joke
17:28 Util # What I did:
17:28 Util * Attended (the excellent) Perl Oasis conference in Orlando. Did not speak on Perl6/Parrot though.
17:28 Util * Fixed typos in Rakudo, but failed at commit time. Pending.
17:28 Util * Found a GC bug on Darwin, that I think ties in to TT#1393
17:28 Util # What I plan to do:
17:28 Util * Write up GC new ticket, or add to TT#1393 as appropriate
17:28 Util * Examine my backlog.
17:28 Util # Blockers:
17:28 Util * $WORK eats up another week.
17:29 Util * Traveling today, with intermittent net access. Will try for #ps meeting.
17:29 Util .end
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17:48 plobsing What I Did:
17:48 plobsing * merged pmc_freeze_cleanup
17:48 plobsing * synced libjit_framebuilder with recent trunk (now libjit_framebuilder2)
17:48 plobsing * POD fixups to src/nci_test.c
17:48 plobsing What I Plan:
17:48 plobsing * test and merge libjit_framebuilder2 (passes for me on x86/x64 linux with/without libjit)
17:48 plobsing * follow through with deprecation-delayed pmc_freeze cleanups (PMCization)
17:48 plobsing * investigate making bytecode gcable
17:49 plobsing * review roadmap, identify other tasks, prioritize
17:49 plobsing EOR
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17:53 darbelo HAVE DONE: * Mini not-really-vacation. * Fixed t/pmc/io.t for OpenBSD by not caching a pointer.
17:53 darbelo WILL DO: * Turn IMAGE_IO into a PMC. Expect a branch later today. * Get started on the bitwise dynops. This time for sure.
17:53 darbelo BLOCKERS: * Life, family, etc.
17:53 darbelo EOR
17:54 darbelo xterm paste: FAIL.
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17:55 Coke kid51's report
17:55 Coke * TT #1382:  eliminate config step auto:alignptrs.  This will be done ASAP post-release unless someone registers objection.
17:55 Coke * TT #1412:  eliminate t/harness option '--running-make-test':  Can anyone identify what this option is supposed to be doing?  If not, I will eliminate it.
17:55 Coke * TT #1393:  As mentioned last week, while I'm getting all tests to pass on Linux/i386, plobsing and I suspect the real issues have just been papered over.
17:55 Coke .
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18:11 dukeleto What I Did:
18:11 dukeleto * Worked on PL/Parrot http://github.com/leto/plparrot
18:11 dukeleto * Telling people about Parrot. I met someone interested in implementing Scheme+Parrot and pointed them in tene++'s direction
18:11 dukeleto Will Do:
18:11 dukeleto * Make a more structured dev cycle for PL/Parrot and organize core hackers to complete small, weekly goals
18:11 dukeleto Blocking:
18:11 dukeleto * ETOOMUCHREALLIFE
18:11 dukeleto EOF
18:13 Coke my own report: ENOTUITS for parrot.
18:14 cotto_w0rk ditto
18:15 Tene My report: after about a month of catastrophe, it's starting to look like I'll be working on Parrot again.  Maybe.  Probably.
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18:18 chromatic This week: worked on TT #389.
18:18 chromatic Applied a patch or two.
18:18 chromatic Blocking on: pmichaud's help with PGE in the TT #389 branches.
18:18 chromatic Today: releasing 2.0.
18:19 dukeleto chromatic++
18:20 Tene "important feature for 1.0" lol
18:21 mikehh probably be a little late - bbl
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18:32 chromatic Hello, everyone.
18:33 Coke ~~
18:33 cotto_w0rk hi
18:33 Tene Hi, chromatic!
18:33 chromatic Let me backlog.  In the meantime, did anyone not report who wants to report?
18:34 Tene I didn't report anything useful, and I'd like to have reported something useful.
18:34 Tene Don't have anything, though. ;)
18:34 chromatic Okay.  How did we do on last week's targets?
18:35 chromatic I talked to Rakudo developers... we had a little bit of discussion of Rakudo building with trunk.  bacek sent a couple of patches.
18:35 Tene rakudo has a "works with parrot trunk" commit now.
18:35 Tene compiled and seemed to run fine for me, but I didn't run a complete spectest.
18:35 chromatic Excellent.
18:36 chromatic How about other languages?  Any status?
18:36 Tene Planning a rewrite of my scheme compiler this week.
18:36 Tene Works fine against parrot trunk.
18:36 chromatic Any deprecations we're missing, besides the one I'm adding right now?
18:37 darbelo getopt::obj?
18:37 Tene can we just deprecate "all current ::-delimited class names", or do we need to enumerate?
18:37 chromatic The latter should suffice.
18:39 Tene Data::Dumper(::*), Getopt::Obj, Parrot::Coroutine, SDL::*, Test::Builder::Test::*, YAML::Dumper, PCRE::NCI
18:40 chromatic I'll commit that in a moment.
18:41 Tene There's also some in examples/.  Is examples/ covered under deprecation?
18:41 chromatic I don't believe so, but I'll mention it.
18:41 chromatic What are our priorities for the coming week?
18:42 Tene No idea.  I've been *really* out of it.
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18:43 darbelo Merge branches and get them passing tests?
18:43 Tene there's the long-anticipated calling conventions changes.
18:43 chromatic Right.
18:43 whiteknight more calling conventions changes?
18:44 chromatic TT #1405
18:44 whiteknight ah, right.
18:45 chromatic Is there one branch which is a priority?
18:45 chromatic Perhaps two?
18:45 Tene Coke is working on one-make, I hear.
18:45 Tene #389 would be nice
18:46 plobsing I have a frame builder if anyone is interested
18:46 chromatic I need a bit of help from pmichaud on #389.
18:46 Tene pm specifically, or from anyone willing to dive into PGE/PCT?
18:46 darbelo Is one_make ready-ish?
18:47 darbelo That one would be nice to have.
18:47 Tene darbelo: coke said earlier today that there's one more config step needed before it can merge and then re-branch to finish the rest of the parts.
18:47 chromatic Anyone willing to dive into PGE/PCT would be fine.
18:47 Tene I'd be glad to work on that, then.
18:48 chromatic I'd like to see one_make land soon, as well as TT #389.
18:48 Coke ok. I'll need some tuits from other people to get one_make finished before month's end.
18:48 Coke (but if month's end is OK, I can do that.)
18:48 Tene Coke: are the steps for one-make documented anywhere?  trac?
18:49 darbelo We should qery bacek on orderedhash_revamp's status too.
18:49 Coke Tene: it's a bunch of various trac tickets.
18:49 Tene Coke: can you make an index of the relevant tickets?
18:49 Coke "tickets owned by coke" is a good start. =-)
18:50 Coke I'll see if I can put a trac page together.
18:50 chromatic Any blockers?
18:53 chromatic Any questions?
18:54 whiteknight no.
18:55 chromatic Let's call it a week then.
18:55 Coke just time. Wish I had a parrot day. =-)
18:56 plobsing libjit_framebuilder2 is AFAICT mergable, should I push for merging or are our priorities elsewhere?
18:56 plobsing s/merging/testing & merging/
18:56 chromatic If it's mergeable, get whatever testing you need and merge it after the release when it's ready.
18:57 whiteknight I'll try to help testing that
19:04 dukeleto plobsing: i can help test if ya need, as well
19:04 dukeleto ENODISHES
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