Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #parrotsketch, 2011-08-23

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18:13 kid51 kid51's report
18:13 kid51 * DONE
18:13 kid51 ** Posted, then worked on http://trac.parrot.org/parrot/ticket/2183 (sha256).  Can someone (Coke?) try 'perl Configure.pl && make relcheck' on Win32?  If it works, then ticket can be closed.
18:13 kid51 ** Ticket count (view 10) is 516, about same as last week.
18:13 kid51 ** A lot of Parrot Foundation work.
18:13 kid51 * WILL BE DOING
18:13 kid51 ** A lot of Parrot Foundation work.
18:14 kid51 ** Will be late for #parrotsketch.
18:14 kid51 ** q1q: Shall we do GSOC wrap-up?
18:14 kid51 * EOR
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18:29 NotFound What I did:
18:29 NotFound -parrot
18:29 NotFound * Added function Parrot_str_new_from_cstring, to replace common
18:29 NotFound parts of as_string methods.
18:29 NotFound * Updated NCI example ls.pir
18:29 NotFound * Minor fixes
18:29 NotFound -winxed
18:29 NotFound * Syntax for implicit namespaces in class and namespace.
18:29 NotFound * Changed scope search for class names.
18:29 NotFound * namespace operator.
18:29 NotFound * Minor refactors and optimizations.
18:29 NotFound What I will do:
18:29 NotFound No plan
18:29 NotFound EOR
18:30 plobsing What I Did:
18:30 plobsing * propose and start implementing inside-out-ctx
18:30 plobsing + moves parrot-native attributes from callcontext to register frame for easier access
18:31 plobsing + moves current register frame into interp for faster access (16% faster on mops_intval)
18:31 plobsing * various code spelunking involving exceptions, calling conventions
18:31 plobsing What I Plan:
18:31 plobsing * complete inside-out-ctx and initiate merge preparations
18:31 plobsing * ensure interp['packfile'] is updated consistently
18:31 plobsing * investigate possibility of 'uncatch' op to rethrow without managing multiple throw points
18:31 plobsing EOR
19:11 tcurtis DID:
19:11 tcurtis * Got SLR(1) grammars parsing.
19:11 tcurtis * Started working on a grammar specification DSL.
19:11 tcurtis * Tagged pencils-down.
19:11 tcurtis WILL DO:
19:11 tcurtis * Blog tonight summarizing how it went and future plans.
19:11 tcurtis * Docs.
19:11 tcurtis * Final evals.
19:11 tcurtis * Take a break to focus on $dayjob and family.
19:11 tcurtis EOR
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19:21 soh_cah_toa REPORT
19:21 soh_cah_toa * Last blog post :)
19:21 soh_cah_toa * Nagged whiteknight about debug format (not much luck)
19:21 soh_cah_toa * Only one more README for TT #2155, then merge
19:21 soh_cah_toa * Miscellaneous work on new IRC::Utils module
19:21 soh_cah_toa TODO
19:21 soh_cah_toa * Get whiteknight's attention
19:21 soh_cah_toa * Create new PMC for new debug format and create API
19:21 soh_cah_toa EOR
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19:29 * lucian is late. Sorry
19:32 * cotto_work is still getting his report together, will post in a minute
19:33 cotto_work *did:
19:33 cotto_work - YAPC:EU
19:33 cotto_work -- gave Parrot state talk, slides in the usual place (mksig.org/slides)
19:33 cotto_work -- hung out with jthn++, masak++, pmichaud++, TimToady++ and other Rakudo hackers
19:33 cotto_work -- good exchange of ideas and concerns (relayed to parrot-dev)
19:33 cotto_work -- attended 6-hour Perl 6 class lead by jnthn++, learned some good stuff
19:33 cotto_work - more M0 thinking
19:33 cotto_work - review soh_cah_toa's debugging segment proposal, gave feedback
19:33 cotto_work *todo
19:33 cotto_work - finish profiling docs
19:34 cotto_work - M0: read up on how real assembly languages work
19:34 cotto_work - other stuff as needed
19:34 cotto_work *eor
19:34 cotto_work hello
19:34 tcurtis hi
19:35 NotFound Hola
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19:37 whiteknight hello
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19:38 cotto_work How'd the past week go?
19:38 whiteknight pretty good, I think
19:40 * kid51 joins
19:41 kid51 Twas a very quiet week in master
19:41 kid51 ... and, I think, in branches
19:41 cotto_work I expect a bit more activity this week.
19:42 cotto_work any comments or questions?  The threading code seems to be going down in popularity.
19:42 whiteknight (src/threads.c)--
19:42 whiteknight that and security issues came up today, that we are going to want to start putting more emphasis on
19:43 cotto_work I saw some interesting conversations that I haven't had time to catch up on.
19:43 whiteknight now that we know it's becoming a hot topic, we can start focusing on more, and more productive conversations
19:44 whiteknight cotto_work: you had some ideas written up about sandboxing at one point, right?
19:44 whiteknight or was that somebody else?
19:44 cotto_work I don't think it was me.
19:44 cotto_work possibly allison
19:45 whiteknight you architects all look the same to me
19:45 whiteknight I'll ask her about it
19:46 NotFound It was allison, yes.
19:47 allison whiteknight: PDD18
19:48 whiteknight allison: Those are all your ideas? not anything else I need to hunt for?
19:48 allison whiteknight: that's all that's documented so far (IIRC)
19:48 allison whiteknight: happy to do a braindump also
19:49 allison whiteknight: (IRC, phone, pick your medium)
19:49 whiteknight allison: I would be very happy to hear a braindump sometime, if you have time. IRC is best
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19:49 allison whiteknight: I actually have more ideas now, after working on sandboxing in Ubuntu the past year :)
19:49 whiteknight awesome. I like borrowing experience
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19:51 cotto_work I wish I'd seen chromatic's post before #ps started.  It looks like he's got some important points.
19:51 cotto_work http://www.modernperlbooks.com/mt/2011/08/no-policy-can-save-wrong-code.html
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19:55 cotto_work any goals for the week?
19:56 kid51 Umm, I had a q1q
19:56 cotto_work kid51: my apologies.  Go ahead.
19:56 kid51 GSOC admins and mentors:  Are you ready to file your reports?
19:57 * cotto_work is
19:57 bubaflub already filed
19:57 kid51 bubaflub: Here I'm focusing on the mentors, as they're more directly accountable to PaFo.
19:57 bubaflub ah, right.  my bad.
19:58 cotto_work The deadline is Friday.  Earlier is better, of course.
19:58 kid51 allison? coke? whiteknight? darbelo? (one other?)
19:58 kid51 dukeleto?
19:58 allison haven't filed mine yet, but will tomorrow
19:58 allison I have already talked with lucian about the outcome
20:01 kid51 whiteknight?
20:01 whiteknight haven't yet. will soon
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20:04 cotto_work submitted
20:05 cotto_work any other issues, comments, pie, etc?
20:06 soh_cah_toa well as far as goals go, i really want to get going on the debug format stuff but i need a lot of help from whiteknight or anybody else for that matter
20:06 soh_cah_toa whiteknight: do you think you could dedicate some time to that?
20:06 whiteknight yessir
20:06 soh_cah_toa great :)
20:12 cotto_work Is there anything else someone would like to bring up?
20:15 whiteknight nosir
20:17 cotto_work Let's call it a wrap.  I'd recommend reading chromatic's latest blog post.  I have a feeling it'll be a motivator for change.
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20:27 whiteknight post-posting, since I didn't do it earlier:
20:27 whiteknight WHAT I DID:
20:27 whiteknight * worked on whiteknight/frontend_parrot2 branch with plobsing++. Making good progress there. Still failing a few tests, mostly dealing with precise formatting of error messages and backtraces.
20:27 whiteknight * Talked a lot with plobsing about his inside-out-ctx branch, and other projects.
20:27 whiteknight * Lots of work on Rosella, updating various libraries and prototyping several new ones
20:27 whiteknight * Digging through lots of code. Reviewing various bits of GSoC code, looking at Eclesia++'s eria project, and a few other things.
20:27 whiteknight * Worked on several Winxed features: improved namespace syntax, debug syntax, new frontend, basic MMD, various fixes, etc. Some of them merged, some are still in development
20:27 whiteknight WHAT I WILL DO:
20:27 whiteknight * Everything. The list keeps growing
20:27 whiteknight EOR
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