Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #parrotsketch, 2011-10-18

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19:25 benabik DID: Much work on a basic disassembler in PACT.  Some updates to Packfile PMCs.  WILL DO: I promise nothing.  EOR
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19:26 NotFound Extra short report: almost nothing in last weeks, being busy
19:26 NotFound EOR
19:26 whiteknight Extra short report: Almost nothing. Very busy. EOR
19:27 cotto did: finally got my notes on the github wiki (https://github.com/parrot/parrot/wiki/​CPU-and-VM-Instruction-Set-Comparison)
19:27 cotto todo: explain what they mean, fill out the remaining CPUs
19:27 cotto also, GSoC mentor summit and VMIL this weekend and Monday.
19:27 cotto blockers: serious lack of tuits
19:27 cotto eor
19:29 * dukeleto is doing a release and ran into a coredumping test on master on 64bit linux (t/library/pg.t)
19:30 dukeleto https://gist.github.com/1296368 is the backtrace of the coredumpt test, which is currently blocking a release
19:30 nine did: zero overhead (tm) patch for green_threads. Discovering the reasons for M0 (and stopping there before re-inventing M0). EOR
19:31 cotto Howdy.
19:31 benabik dukeleto: I would also suggest holding the release until we at least look at the exit problem moritz mentioned.  I'm looking into that one.
19:32 Util Still tuitless with $WORK   EOR
19:33 Util cotto++ # CPU table
19:34 NotFound ENOHELO?
19:34 cotto It got buried.
19:35 benabik hello!
19:35 NotFound Hola
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19:35 Util Hello
19:35 cotto the x86 build looks good, at least
19:35 dukeleto benabik: any time horizon for how long to hold the release?
19:35 dukeleto marcel_r: howdy
19:36 marcel_r dukeleto: Hi!
19:36 benabik dukeleto: I need probably another ~20 just to get a new Rakudo running.  I was very out of date.
19:38 cotto Do we have a plan to figure out the release?
19:39 cotto I won't have access to an x86_64 machine until this evening.
19:40 benabik cotto: I'm trying to see what's up with a couple Rakudo test failures.
19:40 cotto benabik: ok.  Are they related to the coredump that dukeleto mentioned?
19:40 benabik cotto: No.
19:40 benabik (I don't think so anyway)
19:41 dukeleto cotto: q1q
19:41 * dukeleto just enabled github issues on parrot.git https://github.com/parrot/parrot/issues
19:41 cotto dukeleto: go ahead with your question
19:41 dukeleto so i can create issues for all the things that bug me in the release process
19:42 dukeleto cotto: I would like to start organizing a migration to Github issues. I suggest closing all TT's older than X years (I suggest 1 or 2) then programmatically migrating the remaining TT's to github issues
19:42 dukeleto cotto: andy lester seems to be on board to help
19:42 dukeleto cotto: i am not volunteering to do it all, but I am volunteering to oversee and organize other people helping do it
19:43 dukeleto cotto: i outlined why i think this is important in a recent email to parrot-dev
19:43 cotto dukeleto: ok.  I'd love to jump in but I'm up to my eyeballs in things already.
19:44 dukeleto cotto: but basically, it isn't the shiny new technology, but the social features of github that I feel are necessary for Parrot as a community to go forward
19:44 dukeleto cotto: should we just do a simple vote? Does anybody think that it is a horrible idea?
19:44 cotto +1 to doing it
19:44 * dukeleto is obviously +1
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19:45 cotto Between this and the wiki, we may eventually shut trac down altogether.
19:46 Util +1, because of the social aspects of GitHub, which will hopefully make us more... socialable to interested almost-participants
19:46 NotFound +1
19:46 benabik If we shut down trac, we should archive the tickets and wiki somewhere.
19:47 cotto benabik: good point.  I think my bringing that up was premature.
19:47 cotto one thing at a time
19:47 dukeleto benabik: the idea is the migrate what is useful from the wiki to a github wiki. That is in-progress.
19:47 benabik Things we don't see as useful now may become useful later.  Archiving it should be fairly cheap and saves issues later.
19:47 whiteknight I am very much +1 to moving away from trac in any fashion
19:48 dukeleto benabik: sounds fine to me
19:52 cotto dukeleto: how hard do you think it'll be to get out a release that passes its tests on x86_64?
19:52 dukeleto do we need to continue this vote on parrot-dev, or can we call it good?
19:52 cotto I'm content to call it good.
19:52 dukeleto cotto: hard to say. This looks like a GC bug. I could skip that test file, but the bug could manifest in some other test on different machines
19:53 cotto (papering it over)--
19:53 dukeleto cotto: yeah, that doesn't make me feel good either
19:54 cotto dukeleto: any luck bisecting?
19:55 dukeleto cotto: haven't tried that yet, was doing more of the release process
19:55 dukeleto cotto: will try that now
19:56 dukeleto here is the issue for the coredumping test, if people want to help: https://github.com/parrot/parrot/issues/168
20:00 whiteknight I can try to look at it tonight
20:01 * benabik is afk-ish: in class
20:01 whiteknight it looks like this meeting is dieing down. Call it quits?
20:02 cotto wfm.  Let's call it a wrap.
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