Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #parrotsketch, 2011-11-15

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19:06 whiteknight WHAT I DID: Played with the alerts code a little. Last-minute release prep, testing, windows fixes
19:06 whiteknight WHAT I WILL DO: Put out the release later this evening, try to get some branches merged in thereafter.
19:06 whiteknight EOR
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19:10 alvis What I did:
19:10 alvis * Set up a remote branch 'documentation_revisions' on github
19:10 alvis * Posted blog on parrot.org and email to parrot-dev/parrot-users about
19:10 alvis it
19:10 alvis * Wrote (but will post after 3.10.0 release) blog and email, asking for input/advice/suggestions on Chapter organization of Developer & User Manuals
19:11 alvis * Started revision of './README' (converting to '*.pod', plus corrections)
19:11 alvis * Started working on github pages to begin the process of converting'docs.parrot.org' to github pages
19:11 alvis * Further research on an autogen indexer for parrot docs
19:12 alvis - Temporarily confiscated and setup my wife's Vista box to test Parrot 3.10.0 under Vista (MS Windows SDK) & Cygwin
19:12 alvis - Temporarily confiscated and setup my wife's XP laptop to test Parrot 3.10.0 under XP (via VC++6.0) & Cygwin
19:12 alvis EOR
19:16 NotFound What I did:
19:16 NotFound -parrot
19:16 NotFound * Testing and minor fixes
19:16 NotFound -winxed
19:16 NotFound * Several code generation optimizations, specially for expressions
19:16 NotFound in void context
19:16 NotFound * Improved syntax error detection and its messages
19:16 NotFound * Added testdebug make target to test debug mode and exercise
19:16 NotFound the assertions in the stage 1 compiler
19:16 NotFound * Released 1.4.0, and shortyl after 1.4.1 with a bug fix
19:16 NotFound * Snapshoted 1.4.1 for the parrot release
19:16 NotFound What I will do:
19:16 NotFound No plan
19:16 NotFound EOR
19:28 Util Done: Minimal Perl 6 work only. No plan for Parrot work next week; $WORK-based tuit drought continues.
19:28 Util Will review my old tickets that have shown up on GitHub.
19:28 Util .end
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19:29 cotto hello
19:29 whiteknight hello
19:30 NotFound Hola
19:30 tadzik hello
19:30 alvis hello
19:30 dukeleto What I did:
19:30 dukeleto * hacked on parrot-libgit2
19:30 dukeleto * unpublished/alpha blog post http://labs.leto.net/2011/11/15/pa​rrot-libgit2-winxed-unicorns.html
19:30 dukeleto * got Parrot into Google Code-In
19:30 dukeleto What I will do:
19:30 dukeleto * attempt to get parrot paid for GSoC
19:30 dukeleto * hack on GCI stuff
19:30 dukeleto Blockers:
19:30 dukeleto * ENOTIME
19:30 dukeleto .EOR
19:30 Util Hello
19:31 cotto How's this week gone?
19:32 cotto mls++ has a pull request open (last I checked)
19:33 cotto looks like we should get to that soon.  Conflicts seem to have crept in.
19:34 cotto If the HLLs are happy, I'm happy.
19:34 alvis I have a question or two, if this is the place for it (or should I ask on #parrot)?
19:35 cotto alvis: this is the place.
19:35 cotto before that, any volunteers to merge the branch?
19:35 alvis Ok, on the conversion of 'docs.parrot.org', is that just run it through html2pod and fixup the html links?
19:36 whiteknight cotto: I can help merge it
19:36 cotto whiteknight: great.  Thank you.
19:36 whiteknight also, mls has another branch in the pipeline that I want to be aggressive with, refactoring subs and fixing closures (for Rakudo)
19:36 benabik I assume merge is post release?
19:36 whiteknight I don't think he's ready yet, but will be soon
19:37 cotto benabik: It'd be a bad idea to merge anything non-trivial this close to a release.
19:37 cotto so yes, you're correct
19:37 whiteknight I will be cutting the release tonight, probably. I have a release_3_10 branch split out already.  I think we can start breaking master if people want to
19:37 benabik That's what I thought, but wanted to make sure...
19:37 whiteknight if there are any fixes or docs/NEWS updates that need to be in the release, do them in the branch
19:38 whiteknight I can cherry-pick too, if we get things in master between now and then that we want (which I doubt)
19:38 cotto git++
19:38 dukeleto howdy
19:40 dukeleto alvis: what is your question?
19:40 alvis I guess my real question is, we want 'docs.parrot.org' to look and feel like the new wiki, correct?
19:40 dukeleto alvis: i think parrot.github.com would become the new docs.parrot.org
19:40 tadzik q1q
19:40 dukeleto alvis: and then we can make docs.parrot.org -> parrot.github.com
19:41 dukeleto alvis: i would prefer to have the entire docs site in a github repo, so that we can push to it and update it
19:41 dukeleto alvis: right now, to update docs.parrot.org, you need manually ssh into servers and type undocumented junk in
19:41 alvis Ahh, ok.  I get what you want now.
19:41 dukeleto alvis: i would prefer that any parrot dev be able to commit to parrot.github.com.git and have the site be updated
19:42 cotto That would be helpful.
19:42 alvis dukeleto: Ok, sorry. I thought you wanted something different, but that's good too.
19:44 alvis cotto & dukeleto: Ok, I (hopefully) got it now.  I'll make a start in coupl'a days.
19:44 cotto alvis: thanks
19:45 alvis cotto: your welcome
19:49 cotto any other questions?
19:49 tadzik mine is more dukeleto-directed
19:49 tadzik dukeleto: what do potential mentors need to do/know in terms of the upcoming GCI?
19:50 whiteknight tadzik: Have energy. Eat a good breakfast, get a good night's sleep. Be prepared
19:50 whiteknight when the program gets going, it goes
19:50 tadzik do I need to sign up or something?
19:50 whiteknight well, if we're good about keeping up with tasks
19:51 whiteknight tadzik: I don't think you have to yet. We'll post an announcement when we know more
19:51 tadzik okay, thanks
19:51 NotFound And... let's be careful out there.
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19:57 * dukeleto is back. irc doesn't like me
19:57 dukeleto tadzik: i will post something to parrot-dev
19:57 dukeleto tadzik: good questions :) GCI starts in about a week
19:58 dukeleto tadzik: and it looks like some of the same, extremely productive students from last year are back
19:58 tadzik oh, great
19:58 dukeleto tadzik: Yuki`N is interested in crypto stuff, and I have seen rfw lurking
19:59 dukeleto tadzik: feel free to add the "gci" tag to github issues in the parrot org that would make good gci tasks
19:59 dukeleto tadzik: i just added the gci tag to this: https://github.com/letolab​s/parrot-libgit2/issues/9
20:00 dukeleto tadzik: and anything parrot-related is fine to make into a GCI task
20:01 tadzik dukeleto: I'll look into it, thanks
20:02 whiteknight is the perl foundation in GCI too?
20:02 tadzik yes
20:02 whiteknight okay
20:02 dukeleto tadzik: good to know
20:06 alvis Do we still consider the "auto-generated HTML documentation" experimental?
20:06 cotto I didn't know it was experimental.  We've been using it since forever.
20:07 alvis cotto: That's what it says in 'docs/gettingstarted.pod'
20:08 whiteknight our list of things that are "experimental" needs to be reviewed
20:08 alvis cotto: Ok, I'll remove that bit then, along the way.
20:08 cotto That line was added in 2005
20:08 cotto probably safe to remove at this point
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20:08 cotto ;)
20:08 alvis cotto: :)
20:10 mikehh hi folkes, ain't been around for awhile, should be getting back into it in a week or so
20:11 dukeleto mikehh: howdy!
20:11 mikehh hi dukeleto
20:12 benabik dukeleto: Every time you say "howdy", I think of Toy Story: "Howdy, howdy, howdy!"
20:12 mikehh been totally involved in a project which I hope will finish soon, then I canget back into things here
20:13 mikehh it's been very lucrative, but no time for anything else
20:14 mikehh like I seriously need a break or something :-}
20:16 cotto Does anyone have any remaining unanswered questions?
20:18 whiteknight nope
20:18 cotto ok.  Let's call it a wrap.
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