Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #parrotsketch, 2011-12-06

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19:21 alvis What I did:
19:21 alvis * Finally, completed my 'C' implementation of a lisp "core", as a start on ClojurePVM.
19:21 alvis * Started work on implementation of the 'ClojurePVM' "core" in Winxed.
19:22 alvis * Started work on 'wpp.winxed', a minimal preprocessor for Winxed.
19:22 alvis * Got 'ParrotQuotes' moved to Github Wiki.
19:22 alvis * Started [reviewing&drafting] a written proposal for a "Parrot VM Specification and Reference Implementation Manual"
19:22 alvis * Cont'd review of procedure to automate conversion of docs for the release cycle.
19:22 alvis * Cont'd review of 'tools/docs/make_html_docs.pl' for updates.
19:22 alvis * Cont'd review of procedure to automate turning the pods for 'installable binaries into manpages.
19:22 alvis What I'm working on:
19:23 alvis * Sees items 2, 3, 5, 6, 7 & 8 above.
19:23 alvis * Working on 'make_html_docs.pl' to add a section to 'index.html' about languages, i.e., winxed and nqp-rx.
19:23 alvis * [Researching|Thinkin' 'bout|seriously contemplating] solution sets for documentation integration (i.e., we need a better way to integrate and, then, render our documentation to developers) Note: I'm thinking of how Common Lisp/Ruby/SWI-Prolog handle their documentation needs and how we need something -- I don't know what, yet -- similar.
19:23 alvis What I plan to do:
19:23 alvis * [Complete|make progress on] the 'working on' items above.
19:23 alvis * Write a freakin' logbot.pl to post these reports to #parrotsketch.
19:23 alvis EOR
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19:31 cotto hello
19:31 NotFound Hola
19:31 alvis hello
19:31 whiteknight hello
19:31 NotFound Forgot to report, sorry.
19:31 cotto NotFound: go ahead now
19:32 NotFound I mean, forgot to write the report ;)
19:33 NotFound Short one: working on Guitor, a GUI module using xlib via nci.
19:33 cotto Thanks.
19:34 cotto How's this week been?
19:34 whiteknight good
19:34 cotto I'm looking forward to seeing the ticket migration work by alester++ and dukeleto++ come to fruition.
19:34 whiteknight yes, that is getting very close
19:35 dukeleto hola
19:35 dukeleto ENOREPORT
19:35 dukeleto GCI students have been kicking ass.
19:35 dukeleto and github issues for parrot.git are very close, mostly thanks to alester++
19:35 whiteknight yes. We need to get a lot more tasks ready for the 16th
19:36 whiteknight I've been putting together several tickets already, but not nearly enough
19:36 cotto Is there a way for those of us who don't have active melange account to play along at home?
19:37 dukeleto cotto: sure. People can send task suggestions to parrot-dev
19:39 cotto alvis++ for moving ParrotQuotes.  We'll have to resume adding things to it now.
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19:39 cotto alvis: where's the VM spec living?
19:40 alvis cotto: I haven't put it up yet?  Is that something I should, generally, do?
19:40 cotto alvis: commit early and often
19:41 alvis cotto: Ok. I wanted to post to parrot-dev first and see if there were any opinions, either way.
19:41 alvis cotto: but i'll get something up, ASAP.
19:41 cotto alvis: great!
19:42 alvis are there any guidelines on what goes in the Github Wiki pages?
19:42 cotto "not spam"
19:43 alvis cotto: :) All of the articles and older material on trac, for example?
19:44 cotto The definition of "spam" is left as an exercise to the user.
19:48 whiteknight yes, content from trac if it doesn't look too half-assed and forgotten is worth moving
19:49 dukeleto alvis: add useful stuff to the wiki
19:49 dukeleto alvis: that is our policy :)
19:49 alvis 'k, got it.
19:51 cotto any questions about the coming week?
19:52 whiteknight nope
19:52 nine I'm gonna need some help with a very strange GC problem in the threads branch
19:52 whiteknight count me in
19:52 nine :)
19:52 cotto nine: post to parrot-dev and let's have at it!
19:52 nine Thanks, I will
19:54 whiteknight nine: I just fixed a really creepy bug in the Task PMC in master
19:54 whiteknight update your branch from master soon to see if that helps
19:54 nine whiteknight: will have a look at it right away
19:55 whiteknight pmc2c silently does something extremely stupid if you have a variable in a METHOD with the same name as an argument
19:55 whiteknight the fix is to light pmc2c on fire and run it over with my car
19:57 nine sounds like a sound solution to me
19:57 benabik +1
19:57 cotto now if only we had an alternative...
19:59 nine Well at least I already learned (again) that cleverness does not always lead to the best code... like POINTER_ARRAY_ITER which might be a clever replacement for C++ templates, but makes debugging a real hell
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20:03 cotto It feels like #ps is winding down.  Any final questions?
20:04 alvis nope
20:05 cotto Let's call it a wrap.
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