Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #parrotsketch, 2012-02-07

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13:40 alvis i apologize, but i will be out of town and, therefore, unavailable for #ps. below is my report:
13:40 alvis what i did:
13:40 alvis * Revised 'release_manager_guide.pod' (closed issue #170)
13:40 alvis * Completed updates to '/tools/docs/mk_html_docs.pl'
13:41 alvis * Obtained ssh access to 'ftp-osl.osuosl.org' and 'parrot.org' (for 4.0.1 release)
13:41 alvis * Completed Chapter 01 of vmspec
13:41 alvis What I will do:
13:42 alvis * Send annoucement to parrot-dev about the next,upcoming release, i.e., 4.0.1.
13:42 alvis * Complete 'README_release.pod' to 'parrot.github.com'
13:42 alvis * Complete the '/tools/release/mk_parrot_github_comd_docs.pl' script to handle most, if not all, of the maintainence of parrot's documentation to in 'parrot.github.com' and the supporting 'parrot-docsx' repositories
13:42 alvis * Start on chapter 02 of vmspec
13:42 alvis EOR
13:45 alvis i forgot to add (near-term) to do's:
13:45 alvis * Update 'parrotbug' (to file github issues)
13:46 alvis * Develop script to automate pod -> *roff for binaries
13:46 alvis * Draft a pddxx_documentstd.pod and submit to parrot-dev
13:46 alvis EOR
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19:32 cotto hello
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19:33 benabik hi
19:37 cotto It's been too quiet recently.  We need to start moving wrt getting 6model into core.
19:37 benabik +1
19:37 benabik I'm a big fan of grabbing many things from NQP into core.
19:38 benabik It's the largest compiler project we have, so things that it finds useful are things we should really look at integrating.  (6model, dyncall, and the radix op all come to mind)
19:38 cotto also, +1 to moving dyncall into Parrot if someone would like to take that on
19:39 cotto I guess step 0 would be a coherent plan for 6model.
19:39 cotto or at least a metaplan
19:40 cotto I'll make that my thing for the week.
19:41 cotto any comments or questions?
19:41 benabik I've looked at it for a while, so I have some idea of how it works...  Obviously jnthn's more knowledgeable, but I can try to help.
19:42 cotto It's open source and the #perl6 folks are friendly.
19:42 moritz jnthn and not_gerd had some discussions about it yesterday, iirc
19:42 cotto moritz: interesting.  do you have a link?
19:42 moritz cotto: I can dig up some
19:42 benabik not_gerd posted a gist...
19:43 cotto moritz: thanks
19:43 moritz https://gist.github.com/1751167
19:43 moritz and the discussion starts at http://irclog.perlgeek.de/​perl6/2012-02-06#i_5109668 and continues fragmented throughout the day
19:44 benabik It seemed a little overly complicated at first glance.  But it's more than I've done, so I can't knock it too much.
19:45 cotto I look forward to digging into that gist, the discussion and 6model in general after $dayjob.
19:45 cotto moritz++
19:45 cotto not_gerd++ jnthn++
19:46 cotto anything else need discussion?
19:47 benabik I was working on #346 and hit an issue...
19:47 cotto benabik: what issue?
19:47 benabik Namely, there are a lot of options listed in --help and docs/running.pod for IMCC that appear to not be hooked up to anything.
19:48 benabik --imcc-debug, --verbose, --optimize, --yydebug
19:48 cotto --optimize is (iirc) extravagantly broken and has been for a long time
19:48 benabik (Also, if anyone wants to look at/help out I'm working on the gh346 branch)
19:48 cotto deleting things is sometimes an acceptable solution
19:49 benabik Should all of them be deleted since they don't do anything?
19:50 cotto benabik: can you list them in the issue?  They can probably go away, but we should have another pair of eyeballs on them first.
19:50 benabik List them in #346 (test all parrot command line flags), or open a new one?
19:50 cotto in the existing issue
19:50 cotto 346
19:51 benabik I'm also not sure how to test some of them (mostly library paths).  But I'm trying for as many as I can get in my "copious spare time".
19:51 cotto much appreciated
19:52 benabik I figured the tests would be useful since we hit memory corruption with "parrot --output foo.pbc foo.pir"
19:54 cotto I'll keep an eye on that issue and help as I'm able.
19:54 benabik Thanks.  :-)
19:54 cotto Any other quesions?
19:55 moritz for Rakudo I want a more reliable file move operation
19:55 moritz parrot just has 'rename', which doesn't work across file system boundaries
19:56 moritz any chances that somebody implements it if I open a TODO ticket?
19:56 cotto superficially, that doesn't sound too scary
19:57 cotto so yes
19:57 moritz ok, I'll open the ticket
19:58 cotto it's looking to be an interesting week
19:59 cotto any last things before we call it a wrap?
20:01 cotto Let's call it a wrap then.
20:01 * moritz likes wraps.
20:01 * moritz waves
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20:01 benabik Make mine a tuna on whole wheat.
20:01 cotto You have to say "sudo".
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