Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #pdl, 2012-07-05

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10:48 Mithaldu joined #pdl
10:48 Mithaldu i am sad that PDL::Drawing::Prima doesn't install on my windows :(
13:58 run4flat joined #pdl
13:59 run4flat hello all
13:59 run4flat lungching, zpmorgan, osfameron, or joelaberger, could one of you guys give me ops?
13:59 run4flat liddle's computer went down over the holiday
13:59 liddle_piddle_bot joined #pdl
14:03 lungching run4flat: done
14:05 run4flat thank you
14:05 run4flat and now we're safe from losing ops
14:05 * run4flat wipes brow
14:11 Mithaldu run4flat: you got some bug reports for PDL::Drawing::Prima :)
14:12 run4flat Mithaldu, I'll have to check
14:12 Mithaldu one of them is easy
14:12 run4flat I've been meaning to move my "milestone" bugs to actual "milestones"
14:13 Mithaldu the other ... i don't know yet
14:13 Mithaldu but the easy one is important!
14:13 run4flat but it sounds like there are new ones...
14:13 run4flat I'll check them out now
14:13 Mithaldu because the easy one prevents cpan reporter fails from reaching you
14:13 run4flat hmmm...
14:13 run4flat are these on RT?
14:14 run4flat oh, the dev version dependency
14:14 run4flat ok, I can fix that. :-)
14:14 Mithaldu https://metacpan.org/module/PDL::Drawing::Prima
14:14 Mithaldu ^- i clicked "Bugs" there
14:16 run4flat Hmm, so I should have said "2.4.009_014" or some such
14:17 run4flat but that's OK, I'll just depend on 2.4.10
14:17 run4flat or mybe 2.4.09_14
14:17 Mithaldu better would be
14:17 Mithaldu 2.004009_014
14:19 run4flat Even better: 2.4.10
14:19 run4flat Nobody except developers uses the dev versions
14:19 run4flat the last time I touched that dependency was back in the fall, before 2.4.10 had come out
14:20 run4flat so it's worth updating it
14:21 run4flat aside: I didn't know that p3rl.org had a "scribble" section
14:21 run4flat pretty awesome
14:23 Mithaldu scribble?
14:23 run4flat go to p3rl.org
14:23 Mithaldu oh, a pastie!
14:23 run4flat yeah
14:23 run4flat they call it scribble
14:23 Mithaldu so many pasties everywhere
14:24 Mithaldu personally i just use gist.github because then i can get whatever i pasted as a git repo :)
14:24 Mithaldu also, yeah, that was the worst part, i had the latest PDL :P
14:26 run4flat Curious: did you force the install?
14:28 Mithaldu of drawing?
14:28 Mithaldu nope
14:28 Mithaldu as you might note
14:28 Mithaldu the build phase failed
14:28 Mithaldu so there was no point
14:29 run4flat isn't this easy to force using the "look" command from the cpan shell?
14:31 Mithaldu i'm unsure what you're asking!
14:31 Mithaldu since the build phase failed there were no useful executables
14:31 Mithaldu so any sort of forcing would be pointless
14:32 Mithaldu "error building dll file"
14:37 run4flat really
14:37 run4flat ?
14:37 run4flat this may be an ActiveState issue
14:37 Mithaldu that's what i linked: https://gist.github.com/21a01a7f26e48d5be29f#L31
14:37 Mithaldu i think it might be missing some lib
14:38 run4flat hmm
14:38 run4flat maybe I need to make a VM with ActiveState and test it there
14:38 run4flat I use Strawberry for my testing
14:38 Mithaldu i can give you VNC access to my Win7 machine
14:38 Mithaldu also
14:38 Mithaldu you can install ActivePerl without it mangling the path
14:38 Mithaldu and then just go
14:38 run4flat that'd be helpful, but I want to try to get it working on my own first
14:39 run4flat If I hit road bumps, I'll take you up on that VNC access
14:39 Mithaldu https://gist.github.com/e1912a59b196c4651e30
14:39 Mithaldu with that you can install activeperl onto your strawberry VM and then open a shell with the right path
14:39 run4flat ah, I see
14:39 run4flat so, only one windows VM to test both distros
14:40 run4flat good idea
14:40 run4flat :-)
14:40 Mithaldu :)
14:40 Mithaldu also: strawberry has portable zips
14:40 Mithaldu great for this
14:41 run4flat What I really need to do for PDL::Drawing::Prima, of course, is to write a bona-fide test suite
14:41 run4flat which I can do with a mock Prima::Drawable object
14:41 Mithaldu true, but that only runs when the build completes :)
14:41 run4flat and then I'll *really* get the fail reports
14:50 run4flat Alright, I've uploaded PDL::Drawing::Prima v 0.04 to CPAN
14:50 run4flat now we wait for the mirrors to catch up
14:55 * Mithaldu does some magic
14:56 Mithaldu CPAN::Reporter: Build result is 'unknown', Stopped with an error.
14:56 Mithaldu CPAN::Reporter: preparing a CPAN Testers report for PDL-Drawing-Prima-0.04
14:56 Mithaldu CPAN::Reporter: sending test report with 'unknown' via Metabase
14:56 run4flat Mithaldu, what does this mean?
14:57 Mithaldu that it sent the report for the failed compile
14:57 run4flat ah, ok.
14:57 run4flat So I fixed the first bug
14:57 run4flat but not the second, yet
14:57 run4flat right?
14:57 run4flat :-)
14:58 Mithaldu yes
14:58 Mithaldu the first bug was just preventing any and all fails from reaching you :)
14:58 run4flat I see. So now I'll get more tomatoes
14:59 Mithaldu yup :)
15:14 run4flat Man, how do I turn "bugs" into feature requests on github?
15:14 run4flat I'd rather not have MetaCPAN say there are 19 bugs in my module
15:16 run4flat Undoubtedly, there are more than 19 bugs, but I'd still prefer that my feature requests/milestones not be listed as bugs
15:16 Mithaldu run4flat: you click the "enhancement" label
15:17 Mithaldu run4flat: add me as a collaborator and i'll do it for you :)
15:17 run4flat ok, gimme a sec
15:19 run4flat alright, done
15:19 run4flat (adding you as a collaborator, that is)
15:19 Mithaldu right
15:19 Mithaldu i'll go through them right quick :)
15:20 run4flat sweet! Thanks a bunch!
15:20 Mithaldu weird
15:20 run4flat no labels?
15:20 Mithaldu your repo doesn't have the default list of labels
15:21 Mithaldu https://github.com/wchristia​n/lifevis/issues?state=open
15:21 Mithaldu that repo came with that list
15:21 run4flat OH, That's how you create labels
15:21 joelberger joined #pdl
15:21 liddle_piddle_bot Welcome back, joelberger
15:21 run4flat greetings, joelberger
15:22 run4flat I'm learning about Github's labels
15:22 run4flat :-)
15:22 run4flat I added the Bug label
15:22 joelberger yo
15:23 Mithaldu and i made it red :)
15:23 joelberger yeah, you might look at Andy's posts about converting from SF's priorities to githubs's labesl
15:23 run4flat hmm, that'd be nice
15:23 joelberger for the parrot project
15:23 run4flat right
15:23 run4flat joelberger, that came out a few months ago
15:23 joelberger yeah
15:23 run4flat might be useful
15:24 joelberger I saw the perfect amount of "lets move to github" in that email of yours to the pdlporters list the other day
15:24 joelberger well done sir
15:24 run4flat thanks
15:24 run4flat :-)
15:25 run4flat Mithaldu, perfect
15:25 Mithaldu ok, that was easy :)
15:25 * run4flat checks MetaCPAN
15:26 run4flat hmm, either MetaCPAN caches stuff, or the labeling didn't work
15:26 Mithaldu it caches
15:27 run4flat that makes sense, it's just that I want my donut *NOW*
15:27 Mithaldu find a way to crash metacpan :D
15:27 run4flat HA!
15:27 run4flat :-D
15:27 run4flat I just want to say that the uptick in PDL and Prima stuff lately is really gratifying
15:27 joelberger haha
15:28 run4flat just a general comment
15:28 run4flat It feels like there's a lot of energy
15:28 joelberger to borrow from sawyerx: gotz to do the bloggingz
15:28 run4flat yes indeed
15:28 run4flat I'll probably write up something tomorrow about... something
15:29 joelberger honestly, I have been thinking a lot about it, and as odd as it seems, I really think you should talk that guy into sharing the good looking tabs
15:29 joelberger or make your own and push it into Prima core
15:30 run4flat yeah, the default tabs are pretty darn ugly
15:30 joelberger sadly the look of a graphical toolkit it how it will be judged, rather than its internals
15:30 Mithaldu kids would like them! :D
15:32 run4flat Here's the module: https://metacpan.org/module/P​rima::CodeManager::CodeManage
15:32 Mithaldu dead link
15:32 run4flat what?
15:32 run4flat oh, dropped the last character
15:32 Mithaldu you are lacking an r at the end
15:32 run4flat https://metacpan.org/module/Pr​ima::CodeManager::CodeManager
15:32 run4flat there we go
15:33 run4flat Actually, there's no reason I couldn't have App::Prima::REPL pull in CodeManager
15:33 run4flat just to use its tabbed notebook library
15:34 run4flat then, I could ask Waldemar to put that into a separate dist
15:38 joelberger you could even fork it out
15:38 joelberger then let him know that you have done so
15:38 joelberger and maybe he would pull yours in
15:38 joelberger be sure to credit him in the docs of course
15:39 run4flat So, just create a new dist, under my PAUSE id, which contains his code and docs?
15:39 run4flat this is ok, but then the tabbed notebook class will have a conflict
15:39 joelberger why?
15:39 run4flat ... unless I give the classes new names
15:39 joelberger yes, I would do that
15:39 joelberger FancyTab
15:39 joelberger or some such
15:40 * run4flat ponders
15:40 joelberger have you ever contacted him?
15:40 joelberger IIRC you said you tried and he didn't respond
15:40 run4flat If I did, it was quite some time ago
15:40 joelberger well maybe ask him first
15:41 joelberger but there's no reason to pull in his whole system just to get the nice tabs
15:41 joelberger it is open source, seems like a perfect use of fork, cull, credit
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17:26 liddle_piddle_bot Welcome back, drrho

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