Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #pdl, 2012-07-19

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03:45 zpmorgan run4flat, howdies
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11:57 zpmorgan Mithaldu++ http://act.yapc.eu/ye2012/talk/4170
11:58 zpmorgan are there any consequenses to forking a process with a gui?
11:59 zpmorgan and what's whe best way to serialize piddles?
13:07 Mithaldu zpmorgan: thanks :)
13:08 Mithaldu also, i think the gui control happens via sockets from the program to the X server?
13:08 Mithaldu so those handles should get cloned, possibly resulting in two programs controlling the same gui
13:12 zpmorgan with prima, only one can handle it though; I think only one at a time can wait on the socket
13:13 zpmorgan xorg related error messages if both try
13:13 Mithaldu best to try it out i guess?
13:13 zpmorgan yeah, I hope that's the only consequense :)
13:15 zpmorgan I'm guessing I know the critical technology in your talk
13:16 Mithaldu if you're guessing PDL, no
13:16 Mithaldu not yet :)
13:17 zpmorgan okay, it must be dwarf fortress then :)
13:17 Mithaldu that is totally true, seeing how i link to it :P
13:17 zpmorgan critical to the future of perl
13:17 zpmorgan opengl?
13:17 Mithaldu well, yes, it gives a need for me to advance OpenGL :)
13:18 zpmorgan gosh, now I'm c(urious|onfused)
13:18 Mithaldu how so?
13:18 Mithaldu you don't see how opengl is critical for the future?
13:19 zpmorgan so it is opengl? no, I don't see it.
13:19 Mithaldu yes, it is
13:19 Mithaldu and well, rather simple
13:20 Mithaldu one of the ways python is very successful in drawing in new coders is game development
13:20 zpmorgan oh! that makes sense
13:20 Mithaldu that works because the python game libraries are based on modern opengl
13:20 Mithaldu even if you're just doing 2d stuff, you'll get things done best by using opengl
13:21 zpmorgan doesn't perl occupy a somewhat different niche from python?
13:21 Mithaldu no
13:21 Mithaldu python and perl occupy literally the same niches
13:21 zpmorgan I've never heard python referred to as a glue language
13:22 Mithaldu the only difference is that perl already has a big userbase of old people
13:22 Mithaldu that was the past
13:22 Mithaldu because in the past perl was slower than C tools
13:22 Mithaldu but nowadays you can afford to write whole applications in Perl
13:22 Mithaldu and perl and python have roughly the same performance profile
13:23 zpmorgan okay, I'll accept that
13:23 zpmorgan but I don't see how opengl is better than sdl for 2d stuff, necessarily
13:23 Mithaldu sdl uses opengl internally
13:24 Mithaldu and sometimes you may want to access things more directly
13:24 Mithaldu or actually make use of 3d
13:24 zpmorgan yeah, that makes sense
13:24 Mithaldu (ok, sdl can also use directx)
13:24 Mithaldu basically, i want to make it possible to write modern opengl in perl
13:25 zpmorgan (I was drawn to perl with gamedev motivations, but I went to gtk2/cairo instead)
13:26 zpmorgan I didn't share anything because it looked like crap and barely functioned
13:26 zpmorgan except Gtk2::HexGrid; I did share that.
13:33 Mithaldu haha
13:34 Mithaldu zpmorgan++ # mad scientist experiments :D
13:37 zpmorgan wheres that from again?
13:42 zpmorgan ah well, back to work :)
14:06 Mithaldu zpmorgan: nowhere specific :)
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14:37 liddle_piddle_bot Welcome back, run4flat
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