Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #pdl, 2014-06-29

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02:58 jberger I have a module that does tied 2d csv interaction
02:58 jberger Kinda crazy
02:59 jberger chm: i think it was interesting that there appeared to be support for a scientific perl workshop
03:00 jberger But my biggest takeaway was that i think we need to talk more about our actual science and not just how we use perl to do it
03:01 jberger The idea of doing cool things in perl
03:02 jberger A half hour talk split 50/50 with the science and how perl helps
03:02 jberger Now about alien
03:02 jberger I want it to progress
03:03 jberger But I'm really not in the best place to do so
03:03 jberger I want to try to get plicease on the dev team for it
03:04 mohawk jberger, i know we talked about this before - is there an alien mailing list?
03:04 jberger No, there should be
03:04 jberger Especially now that there is a dev group
03:05 mohawk on what platform is the dev group?
03:05 mohawk or do you just mean, there are people?
03:05 jberger Github
03:05 mohawk gotcha
03:05 mohawk i'd be interested in joining that, assuming that doesn't have the hurdle of giving privileges (if you see what i mean)
03:05 jberger I dragooned chm and one other good contributor
03:06 mohawk i'd have thought there should be an alien@perl.org if there's an inline@
03:06 mohawk (in other words, i'm interested enough in Alien to join an interest group, but i'm not saying that should confer any privileges on me ;-)
03:07 jberger That's the good thing about github
03:07 jberger You don't need them
03:07 jberger Send a pr
03:07 jberger Have one of us review it
03:08 jberger And I'm not opposed to giving out more ops, but i would want to see good code first
03:08 jberger 😉
03:08 mohawk what's the url to start from?
03:09 mohawk please don't say "github.com" ;-)
03:09 mohawk i just spent a couple of hours getting sucked into exercism.io, it's quite fun ;-)
03:10 jberger https://github.com/Perl5-Alien/Alien-Base
03:10 mohawk awesome, thanks
03:11 mohawk forked!
03:12 jberger \o/
03:12 mohawk titter
03:12 mohawk i think the next step on my Grand Unification Quest is to implement my ideas for ExtUtils::Depends - Torsten expressed a positive interest
03:12 mohawk it's the round tuit shortage that's the problem ;-)
03:13 jberger You and i have discussed that before
03:13 jberger I really don't see that as a major target for ab (yet)
03:13 jberger But i would look at a patch or a concept
03:14 mohawk sure
03:14 mohawk it's up to me to have something for the A::B stuff to actually refer to
03:15 mohawk so there's the ordering issue
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21:51 sivoais I'm doing something weird with operator overloading and I think I came across a perl bug...
21:51 sivoais <https://gist.github.com/zmughal/710a327a5103c0c14a23>
21:52 sivoais PDL does stingify, but overload::Method doesn't know about it
21:52 sivoais *stringify
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22:02 Mithaldu sivoais: maybe it numifies?
22:03 sivoais hmm, let me check
22:04 sivoais nope, it doesn't (replaced '""' with '0+'
22:05 sivoais if you look for PDL::Core::string in PDL::Core, you'll see it overloading '""'
22:05 Mithaldu one more option though
22:05 Mithaldu it might've thought it was being talked to in list context
22:06 sivoais ok, trying
22:08 Mithaldu i'd look at it the debugger, but the dependency Devel::Checklib is fucked again on windows
22:08 sivoais mm, nah, that's not it either. I wrapped everything in scalar()
22:08 Mithaldu you really need to either get that guy to get his shit together, or stop using it
22:11 sivoais Devel::CheckLib looks green on cpantesters
22:11 Mithaldu http://www.cpantesters.org/cpan/report/ab0949e7-6c5d-1014-acb0-b3cbceda76bb
22:12 Mithaldu i'm seeing that
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22:43 Mithaldu sivoais: any idea why the lower thing would happen?
22:43 Mithaldu https://github.com/mattn/p5-Devel-CheckLib/issues/6
22:44 Mithaldu the code in question is this:
22:44 Mithaldu int main(void) { return 0; }
22:44 Mithaldu (i assume you have some interest, seeing how it's your dep)
23:00 sivoais Mithaldu: I have no idea why that would happen... Hopefully it isn't something in the compiler...
23:12 Mithaldu sivoais: well, i think it might help a bit if you, as one of checklib's greatest consumer, put in your voice there
23:12 Mithaldu as the issue says, that one commit actually breaks the module
23:13 sivoais Mithaldu: I'm not really a PDL developer... I just help around the sidelines. :-P
23:14 sivoais but I've been meaning to help more with PDL ;-) Docs are probably where I can help the most.
23:14 Mithaldu doesn't matter, you're more involved than i am, and one more voice is always good
23:15 sivoais Ah, well, then I'll pipe up
23:16 Mithaldu cheers :)
23:18 mohawk i agree with Mithaldu
23:19 Mithaldu actually, i think a pull request to modify the commit in question to not include all the linked libraries would help
23:43 mohawk does anyone here have any views on whether Inline::C should no longer be distributed as part of Inline but as a separate distrib?
23:56 Mithaldu this is only vague, but it might give darkpan people troubles, people who rely on os packages

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