Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #pdl, 2014-12-06

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15:47 pdurbin a new Perl web framework in the making: http://irclog.greptilian.com/rest/2014-12-06
16:56 jberger pdurbin: what does he want that other frameworks can't do?
16:56 jberger learning experience is a good reason, as long as it doesn't make it to production or cpan
16:57 jberger :-P
17:06 jberger pdurbin: also, do you announce that you are logging the channel?
17:06 jberger oh nm, its in the topic
17:30 pdurbin jberger: http://irclog.greptilian.com/rest/2014-06-22#i_69481
18:06 pdurbin (me being thanked by the op for taking over logging of #rest)
18:06 pdurbin jberger: I'm curious what he wants too
18:32 jberger inventing your own web framework is usually a bad idea
18:33 jberger unless your name is Sebastian Riedel
18:33 jberger but I suppose he has enough of them now too :-)
18:35 pdurbin "since I have built my framework from scratch I can luckily handle anything in whatever way I like with ease"
18:36 pdurbin I like that sentiment.
18:37 pdurbin there's more than one way to do it
18:46 jberger pdurbin: but its a LOT to give up in the pursuit
18:46 jberger TIMTOWTDI is great
18:47 jberger but frameworks give you nice things like security etc
18:47 jberger I wouldn't trust myself to write something like that
18:48 pdurbin jberger: what's your favorite Perl web framework?
18:48 jberger I'm a little biased, as I'm on the core team of Mojolicious developers :-)
18:51 pdurbin mojo is nice
18:51 * pdurbin watched all the mojo videos a while back
18:58 * sivoais finds it funny that Tcl had all the snazzy features of Node.js decades ago AND was one of the first languages embedding in browsers...
18:58 sivoais s,embedding,embedded,
18:59 sivoais Tcl is actually in the HTML4 spec for the <script> tag ;-)
19:02 jberger sivoais: hunh, I didn't know that
19:02 pdurbin huh. the HTML5 spec too? it's final now, you know
19:03 jberger HTML5 is the only HTML as far as i care :D
19:03 jberger I'm writing myself a NoIP update client even as we speak: https://github.com/jberger/Mojo-WebService-NoIP
19:05 pdurbin at work we use JSF which uses XHTML :(
19:06 * jberger hands pdurbin a beer (or three)
19:06 jberger oh, which reminds me, I haven't read the mstpan article today yet :D
19:07 jberger darn, not posted yet
19:12 * pdurbin drinks them
19:13 pdurbin my plan is the make our API as good as I can so other web interfaces can come along
19:13 pdurbin mobile apps, etc
19:16 pdurbin mstpan? this? http://shadow.cat/blog/matt-s-trout/mstpan-4/
19:18 jberger yeah, mst has his own advent calendar this year
19:18 jberger going through his opinions on cpan modules by topic
19:18 jberger it's been great so far
19:18 jberger and one was "which XML library would do the least damage to your liver"
19:26 pdurbin heh
19:27 pdurbin MST Perl Archive Network? why mstpan?
19:35 jberger oh cmon pdurbin have some fun!
19:40 * pdurbin is trying

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